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Fri Sep-30-11 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #2 |
| -What do you think would have happened? |
kentuck |
Sep-29-11 04:33 PM |
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What would have happened? No stimulus. No Wall Street reform bill. |
TheWraith |
Sep-29-11 04:37 PM |
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Do you mean? |
kentuck |
Sep-29-11 04:43 PM |
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So true, sadly. nt |
AverageJoe90 |
Sep-30-11 01:05 PM |
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That's silly. You say if he had grown a pair that he would have lost all public support |
ThomWV |
Sep-30-11 01:09 PM |
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He HAD public support. It meant fuck-all, because the public doesn't vote in Congress. |
TheWraith |
Sep-30-11 01:11 PM |
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The dems would still have both the senate and the house. n/t |
RKP5637 |
Sep-29-11 04:41 PM |
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+1 |
leftstreet |
Sep-29-11 04:43 PM |
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And we would all be better for it. n/t |
Horse with no Name |
Sep-29-11 05:54 PM |
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Bingo! (NT) |
Tesha |
Sep-29-11 07:26 PM |
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+1 |
myrna minx |
Sep-30-11 12:42 PM |
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Then Obama would not have gotten what he wanted |
MannyGoldstein |
Sep-29-11 04:43 PM |
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They Would Have Filibustered Everything and Nothing Would Have Passed At All |
AndyTiedye |
Sep-29-11 04:51 PM |
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Do you actually believe? |
kentuck |
Sep-29-11 04:53 PM |
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Nonetheless, The Republicans DID Filibuster |
AndyTiedye |
Sep-29-11 05:47 PM |
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A lot of valuable time was wasted on the healthcare bill, that is true... |
kentuck |
Sep-29-11 05:52 PM |
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The Opportunity Never Really Existed |
AndyTiedye |
Sep-29-11 06:04 PM |
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No, we should not have given up on health care... |
kentuck |
Sep-29-11 06:08 PM |
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We Woulda Got Nothing |
AndyTiedye |
Sep-29-11 06:30 PM |
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Yes, the ALL-POWERFUL Republicans--bow before their mighty wrath |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-30-11 10:30 AM |
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Funny You Should Mention Blackmail |
AndyTiedye |
Sep-30-11 12:45 PM |
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And why DON'T the Democrats? |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-30-11 02:25 PM |
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and sometimes "nothing" is better than a damaging |
newspeak |
Oct-02-11 12:23 PM |
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"We should have insisted on a single payer or public option " how can you ignore the fact that |
dionysus |
Sep-30-11 12:30 PM |
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you mean the health INSURANCE bill |
newspeak |
Oct-02-11 12:02 PM |
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If all the naysayers here are right that nothing would have gotten done ... |
dtexdem |
Sep-29-11 04:57 PM |
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Of Course Elections Matter |
AndyTiedye |
Sep-29-11 05:54 PM |
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You may as well give up... it ain't gonna happen. |
kentuck |
Sep-29-11 05:56 PM |
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It Has Happened Before |
AndyTiedye |
Sep-29-11 06:20 PM |
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Screw what the Rethugs would have done. |
dtexdem |
Sep-29-11 04:55 PM |
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Well at that point in time he had a hell of a lot of support. |
truedelphi |
Sep-29-11 05:04 PM |
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I think he had all the support he needed to pass whatever he thought necessary... |
kentuck |
Sep-29-11 05:28 PM |
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That Did Not Stop Them From Filibustering Everything |
AndyTiedye |
Sep-29-11 06:05 PM |
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And if Obama had played his cards right (assuming he even wanted to) |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-29-11 06:14 PM |
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Has That Ever Actually Worked Before? |
AndyTiedye |
Sep-29-11 06:25 PM |
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Yes, Reagan's tax cuts and raised military budget |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-29-11 09:15 PM |
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Has It Ever Worked Before for a Democrat? |
AndyTiedye |
Sep-29-11 09:22 PM |
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Obama could have bypassed the mass media by activating the volunteers |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-29-11 10:11 PM |
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He Actually Did That Recently, Generated a Lot of Phone Calls |
AndyTiedye |
Sep-29-11 10:58 PM |
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On what issue? |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-29-11 11:05 PM |
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I noticed you got no answer. |
U4ikLefty |
Oct-02-11 12:07 PM |
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yeah, but it is easier to pass anything in congress when it comes to monied interest |
newspeak |
Oct-02-11 12:07 PM |
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But here is what the real difference between FDR and Obama - |
truedelphi |
Sep-30-11 02:26 AM |
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If FDR Had Had to Work With This Congress and Todays Media, There Would Have Been NO "New Deal" |
AndyTiedye |
Sep-30-11 12:35 PM |
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Obama's own election disproves what you are saying - |
truedelphi |
Sep-30-11 01:04 PM |
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What FDR and Obama have in common.... |
loyalsister |
Sep-30-11 02:33 PM |
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That's not true |
treestar |
Sep-29-11 06:23 PM |
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The bank bailouts was only one of two times I ever saw the right-wing and left-wing commentators |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-29-11 06:11 PM |
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You said it. People I know made major life decisions thinking we won, and the banks would be fixed. |
saras |
Sep-29-11 07:06 PM |
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Actually, I think the tea party might not even exist today if it had been |
RKP5637 |
Sep-29-11 07:31 PM |
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There Would Still Have Been Plenty of Racist Gits to Stir Up Into a "Teaparty" |
AndyTiedye |
Sep-29-11 09:25 PM |
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Definitely! They used to wear robes. Some just love racism in this |
RKP5637 |
Sep-29-11 09:28 PM |
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The Robes Can be a Fire Hazard |
AndyTiedye |
Sep-29-11 10:55 PM |
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LOL |
RKP5637 |
Sep-29-11 11:17 PM |
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The points that you are making rather confirm that |
truedelphi |
Sep-30-11 02:44 AM |
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Yep, agree, it morphed into "an attack dog on any and everything to |
RKP5637 |
Sep-30-11 06:30 AM |
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A very strange phenomena indeed. |
truedelphi |
Sep-30-11 12:58 PM |
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Yep, much like branding in a marketing campaign, do whatever it |
RKP5637 |
Sep-30-11 02:03 PM |
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So very very downhill. |
truedelphi |
Sep-30-11 02:41 AM |
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What is different in what he did say? |
treestar |
Sep-29-11 06:22 PM |
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Well...he didn't...and while hopeful...I tend to think it might be a "Hail Mary" |
KoKo |
Sep-29-11 06:29 PM |
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The car industry was saved. Millions of jobs saved. The president proved many wrong. |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Sep-29-11 09:40 PM |
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How many autoworkers and their families now qualify for food assistance? |
leftstreet |
Sep-29-11 10:32 PM |
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Another hilarious thread. |
Solomon |
Sep-29-11 07:33 PM |
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Are you talking about this one? |
kentuck |
Sep-29-11 10:14 PM |
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So called Dems would have done what they did.. |
butterfly77 |
Sep-29-11 09:24 PM |
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Unrec. You have no sense of history and have forgotten what happened back then. |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Sep-29-11 09:38 PM |
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Hard to know. The Pubicans are the way they are: obstructionist. |
Honeycombe8 |
Sep-29-11 11:26 PM |
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That is true but... |
kentuck |
Sep-30-11 05:50 AM |
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But...they HAVE been obstructionist from teh start...and taht lead to picking up seats in theHouse |
Honeycombe8 |
Sep-30-11 12:06 PM |
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As Harry Truman once explained, when people have a chance to vote |
truedelphi |
Sep-30-11 12:41 PM |
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I think Gates was a good choice. Geithner & the others...I agree, very bad. |
Honeycombe8 |
Oct-02-11 11:56 AM |
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What would have happened: |
MilesColtrane |
Sep-30-11 12:26 PM |
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No, the Dems would have won if they'd done the right thing and played the PR angle correctly |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-30-11 02:27 PM |
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Economics trumps all in the voting booth. |
MilesColtrane |
Sep-30-11 03:00 PM |
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PERCEPTIONS of economics trump all in the voting booth |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-30-11 03:21 PM |
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just as little boot's and his band of greedy men |
newspeak |
Oct-02-11 01:49 PM |
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Racism would still be rampant and Republicans would have said no then too |
lunatica |
Sep-30-11 02:27 PM |
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Racism is definitely still powerful, BUT |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-30-11 02:29 PM |
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I keep trying to remind myself that the majority who elected him aren't racists |
lunatica |
Sep-30-11 02:36 PM |
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I could accept your premise if he had actually put up a fight |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-30-11 02:45 PM |
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I was answering the OP's question, not defending or condemning President Obama |
lunatica |
Sep-30-11 02:57 PM |
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I agree about Hillary Clinton |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-30-11 03:18 PM |
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