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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 06:30 PM
Response to Reply #19
27. We Woulda Got Nothing
No amount of "insisting" is going to change the vote of a Republican.
No amount of "insisting" is going to get Joe LIEberman to vote against the insurance industry.

There should be a political price for what the Repiglickins have been doing,
but there is none, because the media always covers for them.
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  -What do you think would have happened? kentuck  Sep-29-11 04:33 PM   #0 
  - What would have happened? No stimulus. No Wall Street reform bill.  TheWraith   Sep-29-11 04:37 PM   #1 
  - Do you mean?  kentuck   Sep-29-11 04:43 PM   #4 
  - So true, sadly. nt  AverageJoe90   Sep-30-11 01:05 PM   #62 
  - That's silly. You say if he had grown a pair that he would have lost all public support  ThomWV   Sep-30-11 01:09 PM   #63 
     - He HAD public support. It meant fuck-all, because the public doesn't vote in Congress.  TheWraith   Sep-30-11 01:11 PM   #64 
  - The dems would still have both the senate and the house. n/t  RKP5637   Sep-29-11 04:41 PM   #2 
  - +1  leftstreet   Sep-29-11 04:43 PM   #3 
  - And we would all be better for it. n/t  Horse with no Name   Sep-29-11 05:54 PM   #14 
  - Bingo! (NT)  Tesha   Sep-29-11 07:26 PM   #29 
  - +1  myrna minx   Sep-30-11 12:42 PM   #58 
  - Then Obama would not have gotten what he wanted  MannyGoldstein   Sep-29-11 04:43 PM   #5 
  - They Would Have Filibustered Everything and Nothing Would Have Passed At All  AndyTiedye   Sep-29-11 04:51 PM   #6 
  - Do you actually believe?  kentuck   Sep-29-11 04:53 PM   #7 
  - Nonetheless, The Republicans DID Filibuster  AndyTiedye   Sep-29-11 05:47 PM   #12 
     - A lot of valuable time was wasted on the healthcare bill, that is true...  kentuck   Sep-29-11 05:52 PM   #13 
        - The Opportunity Never Really Existed  AndyTiedye   Sep-29-11 06:04 PM   #17 
           - No, we should not have given up on health care...  kentuck   Sep-29-11 06:08 PM   #19 
           - We Woulda Got Nothing  AndyTiedye   Sep-29-11 06:30 PM   #27 
           - Yes, the ALL-POWERFUL Republicans--bow before their mighty wrath  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-30-11 10:30 AM   #52 
           - Funny You Should Mention Blackmail  AndyTiedye   Sep-30-11 12:45 PM   #59 
              - And why DON'T the Democrats?  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-30-11 02:25 PM   #66 
           - and sometimes "nothing" is better than a damaging  newspeak   Oct-02-11 12:23 PM   #81 
           - "We should have insisted on a single payer or public option " how can you ignore the fact that  dionysus   Sep-30-11 12:30 PM   #55 
           - you mean the health INSURANCE bill  newspeak   Oct-02-11 12:02 PM   #78 
  - If all the naysayers here are right that nothing would have gotten done ...  dtexdem   Sep-29-11 04:57 PM   #9 
     - Of Course Elections Matter  AndyTiedye   Sep-29-11 05:54 PM   #15 
        - You may as well give up... it ain't gonna happen.  kentuck   Sep-29-11 05:56 PM   #16 
           - It Has Happened Before  AndyTiedye   Sep-29-11 06:20 PM   #22 
  - Screw what the Rethugs would have done.  dtexdem   Sep-29-11 04:55 PM   #8 
  - Well at that point in time he had a hell of a lot of support.  truedelphi   Sep-29-11 05:04 PM   #10 
  - I think he had all the support he needed to pass whatever he thought necessary...  kentuck   Sep-29-11 05:28 PM   #11 
  - That Did Not Stop Them From Filibustering Everything  AndyTiedye   Sep-29-11 06:05 PM   #18 
  - And if Obama had played his cards right (assuming he even wanted to)  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-29-11 06:14 PM   #21 
     - Has That Ever Actually Worked Before?  AndyTiedye   Sep-29-11 06:25 PM   #25 
        - Yes, Reagan's tax cuts and raised military budget  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-29-11 09:15 PM   #32 
        - Has It Ever Worked Before for a Democrat?  AndyTiedye   Sep-29-11 09:22 PM   #33 
        - Obama could have bypassed the mass media by activating the volunteers  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-29-11 10:11 PM   #39 
           - He Actually Did That Recently, Generated a Lot of Phone Calls  AndyTiedye   Sep-29-11 10:58 PM   #43 
              - On what issue?  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-29-11 11:05 PM   #44 
                 - I noticed you got no answer.  U4ikLefty   Oct-02-11 12:07 PM   #80 
        - yeah, but it is easier to pass anything in congress when it comes to monied interest  newspeak   Oct-02-11 12:07 PM   #79 
        - But here is what the real difference between FDR and Obama -  truedelphi   Sep-30-11 02:26 AM   #47 
           - If FDR Had Had to Work With This Congress and Todays Media, There Would Have Been NO "New Deal"  AndyTiedye   Sep-30-11 12:35 PM   #56 
              - Obama's own election disproves what you are saying -  truedelphi   Sep-30-11 01:04 PM   #61 
              - What FDR and Obama have in common....  loyalsister   Sep-30-11 02:33 PM   #70 
  - That's not true  treestar   Sep-29-11 06:23 PM   #24 
  - The bank bailouts was only one of two times I ever saw the right-wing and left-wing commentators  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-29-11 06:11 PM   #20 
     - You said it. People I know made major life decisions thinking we won, and the banks would be fixed.  saras   Sep-29-11 07:06 PM   #28 
     - Actually, I think the tea party might not even exist today if it had been  RKP5637   Sep-29-11 07:31 PM   #30 
        - There Would Still Have Been Plenty of Racist Gits to Stir Up Into a "Teaparty"  AndyTiedye   Sep-29-11 09:25 PM   #35 
        - Definitely! They used to wear robes. Some just love racism in this  RKP5637   Sep-29-11 09:28 PM   #36 
           - The Robes Can be a Fire Hazard  AndyTiedye   Sep-29-11 10:55 PM   #42 
              - LOL  RKP5637   Sep-29-11 11:17 PM   #45 
        - The points that you are making rather confirm that  truedelphi   Sep-30-11 02:44 AM   #49 
           - Yep, agree, it morphed into "an attack dog on any and everything to  RKP5637   Sep-30-11 06:30 AM   #51 
              - A very strange phenomena indeed.  truedelphi   Sep-30-11 12:58 PM   #60 
                 - Yep, much like branding in a marketing campaign, do whatever it  RKP5637   Sep-30-11 02:03 PM   #65 
     - So very very downhill.  truedelphi   Sep-30-11 02:41 AM   #48 
  - What is different in what he did say?  treestar   Sep-29-11 06:22 PM   #23 
  - Well...he didn't...and while hopeful...I tend to think it might be a "Hail Mary"  KoKo   Sep-29-11 06:29 PM   #26 
  - The car industry was saved. Millions of jobs saved. The president proved many wrong.  Liberal_Stalwart71   Sep-29-11 09:40 PM   #38 
     - How many autoworkers and their families now qualify for food assistance?  leftstreet   Sep-29-11 10:32 PM   #41 
  - Another hilarious thread.  Solomon   Sep-29-11 07:33 PM   #31 
  - Are you talking about this one?  kentuck   Sep-29-11 10:14 PM   #40 
  - So called Dems would have done what they did..  butterfly77   Sep-29-11 09:24 PM   #34 
  - Unrec. You have no sense of history and have forgotten what happened back then.  Liberal_Stalwart71   Sep-29-11 09:38 PM   #37 
  - Hard to know. The Pubicans are the way they are: obstructionist.  Honeycombe8   Sep-29-11 11:26 PM   #46 
  - That is true but...  kentuck   Sep-30-11 05:50 AM   #50 
     - But...they HAVE been obstructionist from teh start...and taht lead to picking up seats in theHouse  Honeycombe8   Sep-30-11 12:06 PM   #53 
        - As Harry Truman once explained, when people have a chance to vote  truedelphi   Sep-30-11 12:41 PM   #57 
           - I think Gates was a good choice. Geithner & the others...I agree, very bad.  Honeycombe8   Oct-02-11 11:56 AM   #77 
  - What would have happened:  MilesColtrane   Sep-30-11 12:26 PM   #54 
  - No, the Dems would have won if they'd done the right thing and played the PR angle correctly  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-30-11 02:27 PM   #68 
     - Economics trumps all in the voting booth.  MilesColtrane   Sep-30-11 03:00 PM   #74 
     - PERCEPTIONS of economics trump all in the voting booth  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-30-11 03:21 PM   #76 
     - just as little boot's and his band of greedy men  newspeak   Oct-02-11 01:49 PM   #82 
  - Racism would still be rampant and Republicans would have said no then too  lunatica   Sep-30-11 02:27 PM   #67 
     - Racism is definitely still powerful, BUT  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-30-11 02:29 PM   #69 
        - I keep trying to remind myself that the majority who elected him aren't racists  lunatica   Sep-30-11 02:36 PM   #71 
           - I could accept your premise if he had actually put up a fight  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-30-11 02:45 PM   #72 
              - I was answering the OP's question, not defending or condemning President Obama  lunatica   Sep-30-11 02:57 PM   #73 
                 - I agree about Hillary Clinton  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-30-11 03:18 PM   #75 

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