You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Reply #103: They have tried [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread		 This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 11:32 AM
Response to Reply #1
103. They have tried
There have been two attempts in the House that would allow USPS to draw upon pension overpayments to pay for the prefunding requirement.

H.R. 22 (actually introduced by Republican John McHugh and Democrat Danny Davis) was passed by the House in 2009 over objections by the Tea Party-like Republicans, but has been blocked in the Senate by the GOP ever since through threat of filibuster (along with over 300 other bills).

Rep. Stephen Lynch (D-MA) just a few months ago introduced even stronger legislation designed to allow USPS to use tap its overpayments. No way is it going to get anywhere in the new Tea Party-controlled House.

Last year, Harry Reid tried to get something going in the Senate to limit the amount of money USPS would be required to prefund each year; the GOP killed it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
  -The BIGGEST Republican story that is NOT being reported. Firebrand Gary  Sep-28-11 10:57 PM   #0 
  - Well, why didn't the Democratic Congress repeal it?  MrSlayer   Sep-28-11 11:00 PM   #1 
  - That's a good question. I've always wondered why they never  TheDebbieDee   Sep-28-11 11:06 PM   #2 
  - Yeah, it makes you wonder.  DrunkenBoat   Sep-28-11 11:10 PM   #5 
  - Repiglickin Filibuster  AndyTiedye   Sep-29-11 02:15 AM   #16 
  - I never bought that. n/t  Scuba   Sep-29-11 08:11 AM   #22 
  - That's How the Votes Went  AndyTiedye   Sep-29-11 11:30 AM   #27 
     - +100  ellisonz   Sep-30-11 03:31 AM   #92 
        - Are you +100ing the fact that DEMS supported and voted on the bill that is bankrupting the PO?  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 10:36 AM   #95 
           - We didn't have the votes stop it. I also have no idea why Henry Waxman of all people co-sponsered it  ellisonz   Sep-30-11 03:32 PM   #123 
  - They would have called Obama a "socialist" if he had even tried.  Dr Fate   Sep-29-11 01:27 PM   #31 
  - 200 Years of a "Socialist" PO -- funny ---  defendandprotect   Sep-29-11 06:43 PM   #60 
  - those socialist post offices?  newspeak   Sep-30-11 12:04 PM   #111 
     - I trust our DEM leadership more than some old fore father from hundreds of years ago.  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 12:18 PM   #117 
        - Considering the fact that our young Wall Street Occupiers are showing a good  Cal33   Sep-30-11 05:59 PM   #134 
           - Those "kids" have restored my faith in this country.  truedelphi   Oct-01-11 02:27 AM   #137 
              - Yes. Since the movement has already become a national movement spreading  Cal33   Oct-01-11 10:22 AM   #139 
  - Also, our good DEMS suported the law and helped to pass it to begin with.  Dr Fate   Sep-29-11 01:44 PM   #33 
  - The Democratic party has its flaws as well and when we find them we primary them.  Firebrand Gary   Sep-29-11 04:52 PM   #50 
  - I thought "filibuster" was our excuse. Now it is "Liberals should have primaried them harder"  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 11:10 AM   #97 
     - well we've tried that before  newspeak   Sep-30-11 12:09 PM   #113 
        - Hey, as long as the hope of "primaries" keeps some boots on the ground and some $$ in the coffers...  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 12:16 PM   #115 
           - I reject your notion.  Firebrand Gary   Oct-01-11 04:56 AM   #138 
              - yeah as jim hightower says  newspeak   Oct-01-11 11:15 AM   #140 
  - Ouch ... Ouch -- !!! Didn't know that --- !!! Really, really sad = collusion -- !!!  defendandprotect   Sep-29-11 06:31 PM   #58 
  - Someone asked ....  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 12:46 AM   #81 
  - Which could have been changed  quakerboy   Sep-29-11 01:56 PM   #34 
  - It Would Require *67* Votes to Change That Rule  AndyTiedye   Sep-30-11 12:33 AM   #79 
     - as I understand it  quakerboy   Sep-30-11 12:36 AM   #80 
        - The Constitutionality of That is Debatable  AndyTiedye   Sep-30-11 12:47 AM   #82 
        - The filibuster is not in the Constitution ---  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 01:04 AM   #88 
        - Because Shrub Packed the Supreme Court  AndyTiedye   Sep-30-11 12:37 PM   #121 
           - The DEMS tried to vote against Bush's nominees and tried to filibster them too.  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 12:46 PM   #122 
  - Right ... The Omnipotent, Superman Lieberman ... ROFL --  defendandprotect   Sep-29-11 06:39 PM   #59 
  - Without Him, We Did Not Have 60 Votes  AndyTiedye   Sep-30-11 12:29 AM   #78 
     - Nonsense ... did you ever see the Dems do this in reverse .. and as for the nut case  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 01:00 AM   #87 
  - Why didn't the Democrats filibuster this in 2006? n/t  Uncle Joe   Sep-30-11 11:20 AM   #101 
     - yeah, how come the repugs have become the filibuster addicts?  newspeak   Sep-30-11 12:14 PM   #114 
     - Would not have been pragmatic. Plus, they supported the bill to begin with. nt  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 12:32 PM   #120 
  - There may be the appearance ot two political parties in Washington,...  Raster   Sep-29-11 09:04 AM   #23 
  - Bingo.  Scuba   Sep-29-11 11:43 AM   #28 
  - well said  PuppetGubment   Sep-29-11 04:44 PM   #47 
  - We were told, warned about buying of government ... no one still wants to believe it !!  defendandprotect   Sep-29-11 06:56 PM   #62 
  - Somehow, I just had a flashback to a cartoon I remember from 40 years ago.  Jackpine Radical   Sep-29-11 02:40 PM   #37 
  - Or No Child Left Behind  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-29-11 07:20 PM   #65 
  - $$$$$$$  elleng   Sep-28-11 11:08 PM   #4 
  - Indeed.  MrSlayer   Sep-28-11 11:22 PM   #10 
  - Professional victimhood can, also, be pretty profitable.  Selatius   Sep-29-11 05:06 AM   #19 
  - Why is the first response to every post at DEMOCRATIC Underground to blame the Democrats?  McCamy Taylor   Sep-29-11 02:28 PM   #36 
  - Three words:  Jackpine Radical   Sep-29-11 02:41 PM   #38 
  - Why? This was NOT a Republican bill . . . Introduced by House Dems Davis/Waxman -- !!!  defendandprotect   Sep-29-11 07:17 PM   #64 
  - Which the Dems could have changed the rules on, years ago...  riderinthestorm   Sep-29-11 09:37 PM   #74 
  - DEMS voted with the Republicans for the anti-Post Office bill to begin with.  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 10:38 AM   #96 
     - Democrats voted for the bill because the original language called for the dismantling of the unions  brentspeak   Sep-30-11 11:37 AM   #104 
        - I already know DEMS were fooled/tricked/pragmatized into destroying the Post Office.  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 11:46 AM   #107 
           - You have as much time as you feel necessary to demonstrate to all of us here  brentspeak   Sep-30-11 11:57 AM   #110 
              - I agree with you that DEMS had a good excuse then, a good excuse now, good excuses in between...  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 12:04 PM   #112 
  - The Democratic party controlled the Senate for just over 12 months.  Firebrand Gary   Sep-29-11 04:47 PM   #48 
  - House Democrats Davis and Henry Waxman Introduced this legislation --  defendandprotect   Sep-29-11 07:24 PM   #67 
  - That's why we primary our sitting politicians!  Firebrand Gary   Sep-29-11 11:54 PM   #77 
  - Sad to see that Henry Waxman was involved in this --  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 12:56 AM   #85 
     - I agree, oh well he needs to be primaried.  Firebrand Gary   Sep-30-11 03:31 AM   #91 
        - I'd agree -- because what was that his trade off to get into the Senate ... ???  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 05:09 PM   #125 
  - Yeah, but they also succeeded in preventing the GOP from immediately busting the postal unions  brentspeak   Sep-30-11 11:41 AM   #105 
     - And today, those Unions and the Post Office are STRONGER THAN EVER as a result of DEM strategy.  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 11:54 AM   #109 
     - My guess is that you're not capable of telling us what else the Democrats could have done  brentspeak   Sep-30-11 12:18 PM   #116 
     - Tell us what personal efforts Reid, Pelosi and Obama are making to help Lynch.  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 12:28 PM   #119 
     - Strong Post Office Union ... with no Post Offices -- !! Btw, PO property = $50 BILLION ... !!!  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 05:24 PM   #129 
     - After 2006, the Dems took the House and the Senate -- in '08 the presidency --  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 05:21 PM   #128 
     - Fell into the void of a no "sarcasm" sign ---  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 05:14 PM   #127 
     - So they simply compromised on bankrutping the Post Office and handing PO funds over as a  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 05:12 PM   #126 
  - good point  spooked911   Sep-29-11 09:28 PM   #73 
  - because they only had a simple majority, the Fascists have it rigged for 60% to pass anything  dogmoma56   Sep-29-11 06:16 PM   #56 
  - Farce -- the GOP would be lucky to keep a filibuster going even 18 hours and it would be over -- !!  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 12:57 AM   #86 
  - Are you talking about when the DEMS endorsed the anti-PO bill, or when they failed to repeal it?  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 11:14 AM   #98 
  - Exactly -- GOP did it a short time before the '06 Dem win ... but they've had 5 years to change it !  defendandprotect   Sep-29-11 06:29 PM   #57 
  - They have tried  brentspeak   Sep-30-11 11:32 AM   #103 
  - We need to relocate the GOP to Greenland immediately nt  flamingdem   Sep-28-11 11:08 PM   #3 
  - Greenland?  SnohoDem   Sep-28-11 11:11 PM   #6 
  - True. But maybe we could pay them off?  flamingdem   Sep-28-11 11:15 PM   #8 
  - yeah, greenland is beautiful and is still too close  newspeak   Sep-30-11 12:20 PM   #118 
  - That would only accelerate the oceans rise.  Muskypundit   Sep-29-11 04:30 PM   #46 
  - Actually ....Democrats introduced it --  defendandprotect   Sep-29-11 07:25 PM   #68 
  - The final nail in the coffin on voting.  glinda   Sep-28-11 11:12 PM   #7 
  - The "Donor" that wants to own the Post Office must be the Koch Brothers  flamingdem   Sep-28-11 11:16 PM   #9 
     - Koch's own a few shipping/transit industries so bingo.  glinda   Sep-29-11 11:00 AM   #26 
  - Damn. Sounds plausible. Is ANYone running this up a flagpole? n/t  Beartracks   Sep-28-11 11:25 PM   #11 
  - Kick! Kick! Kick!  givemebackmycountry   Sep-28-11 11:34 PM   #12 
  - Amy Goodman (Democracy Now) covered this...  mojowork_n   Sep-29-11 12:28 AM   #13 
  - Well, I've seen it reported, but the thing I learned in another thread...  TreasonousBastard   Sep-29-11 12:42 AM   #14 
  - The Republican alternative at the time, IIRC, was Issa's current bill.  Occulus   Sep-29-11 09:21 AM   #25 
     - We were fooled/tricked/pragmatized into supporting tea bag agenda even wayyyyyyy back then.  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 11:17 AM   #99 
     - and so the corporate owned greedy repugs give the democrats  newspeak   Oct-01-11 11:46 AM   #142 
  - Mail-in voting is GOP worst nightmare.  ErikJ   Sep-29-11 01:30 AM   #15 
  - Oh yes, the GOP will do everything they can to suppress voter involvement.  Firebrand Gary   Sep-29-11 04:49 PM   #49 
  - Also, the rich USPO's money could be invested in the faltering derivatives/housing market.  Festivito   Sep-29-11 05:03 AM   #17 
  - How much is Post Office property worth ????  defendandprotect   Sep-29-11 07:28 PM   #69 
     - 50B$ sounds plausible. But, that has nothing to do with retirement fund investing in derivatives.  Festivito   Sep-30-11 01:55 AM   #90 
        - Correct --- not retirement funds which are being used for other purposes -- !!!  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 05:42 PM   #133 
           - I'd hope capitalism as pure capitalism is finished.  Festivito   Sep-30-11 07:20 PM   #135 
              - Ah ... didn't know that -- !!! I heard they used the money to fund other agencies ....  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 09:43 PM   #136 
  - Rachel reported on this a week or two ago. nt  AtomicKitten   Sep-29-11 05:04 AM   #18 
  - What do you expect from  malaise   Sep-29-11 05:06 AM   #20 
  - Yes and Darryl Issa is trying to get it privatized.  Ilsa   Sep-29-11 05:56 AM   #21 
  - It's strange that it's only coming to light now publically nt  flamingdem   Sep-29-11 09:11 AM   #24 
     - And, the way it did was that the union paid $1 million to RUN AN AD on TV ... !!!  defendandprotect   Sep-29-11 07:29 PM   #70 
  - I think the reason why was that they wanted to establish an unbearable burden.  Myrina   Sep-29-11 01:09 PM   #29 
  - Who is stopping Reid, Pelosi, and Obama from "reporting" it?  Dr Fate   Sep-29-11 01:16 PM   #30 
  - The creation of the post office is in the consitution...  KansDem   Sep-29-11 01:38 PM   #32 
  - It empowers Congress to do so  SnakeEyes   Sep-29-11 03:57 PM   #44 
     - Cool- so the DEMS were right in first helping the GOP and also correct in not not stopping them now.  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 11:19 AM   #100 
  - Bastards.  Desertrose   Sep-29-11 02:00 PM   #35 
  - It should be reported- how do we get things reported......  Tumbulu   Sep-29-11 03:10 PM   #39 
  - K and R thanks for posting..nt  Stuart G   Sep-29-11 03:11 PM   #40 
  - The Grand Old Pricks strike again  Blue Owl   Sep-29-11 03:19 PM   #41 
  - No ---  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 01:06 AM   #89 
  - Kicked and Rec'd they really make my stomach turn.KOCH Postal Services?  louslobbs   Sep-29-11 03:21 PM   #42 
  - Never forget the Postal Union. Much of what they do can be attributed to union busting too.  ThomWV   Sep-29-11 03:22 PM   #43 
  - elaborate  SnakeEyes   Sep-29-11 03:58 PM   #45 
     - The US Postal Service is the largest union employer in the nation  Bjorn Against   Sep-29-11 07:04 PM   #63 
        - Ok, I get what you're saying.  SnakeEyes   Sep-29-11 11:03 PM   #75 
  - FYI: For the "American Originalist" The US Postal Service is older than the US Constitution.  Firebrand Gary   Sep-29-11 04:53 PM   #51 
  - so repeal it  KurtNYC   Sep-29-11 04:59 PM   #52 
  - Fuck the GOP and their tyrant corporate bosses.  alfredo   Sep-29-11 05:03 PM   #53 
  - It was the Democrats --  defendandprotect   Sep-29-11 07:31 PM   #71 
     - Was the 10yr limit in the original bill?  alfredo   Sep-29-11 11:40 PM   #76 
        - Would certainly presume so ---  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 12:49 AM   #83 
           - True. But remember, McConnell immediately began his stonewall on  alfredo   Sep-30-11 08:41 AM   #94 
           - McConnel stonewalled the DEMS original support for the anti-post office legislation?  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 11:22 AM   #102 
           - No, he stonewalled, slow walked any legislation, no matter  alfredo   Sep-30-11 03:54 PM   #124 
           - Funny -- in a sad way --- !!!  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 05:29 PM   #131 
           - That's why I can't wait until Dems ONLY control the House .... so we control everything!! ROFL  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 05:26 PM   #130 
           - Explain to us how the Democrats "could have changed it any time after that"  brentspeak   Sep-30-11 11:44 AM   #106 
              - Obama is a Republican President?  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 11:49 AM   #108 
              - Filibuster is farce -- Dems have allowed this "out" without challenge ....  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 05:39 PM   #132 
  - BEHOLD, THE ENEMY WITHIN  HowHasItComeToThis   Sep-29-11 06:06 PM   #54 
  - and the more public services corporatized, the more the PEOPLE lose  newspeak   Oct-01-11 11:28 AM   #141 
  - Mail-in voting. Yet another nail in the Post Office coffin we need to fight.  Ruby the Liberal   Sep-29-11 06:13 PM   #55 
  - Yes -- a big issue -- especially because of all the gimmicking with "caging" votes ....  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 12:53 AM   #84 
  - Take your ballot to the campaign headquarters in your area  judesedit   Sep-29-11 06:46 PM   #61 
  - People who live in the boondocks would have to travel pretty far..  Little Star   Sep-29-11 07:21 PM   #66 
  - Thank YOU for reporting it, FG.  yellerpup   Sep-29-11 08:12 PM   #72 
  - Oregon and Washington vote exclusively by mail.  ellisonz   Sep-30-11 03:32 AM   #93 
 

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC