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Fri Sep-30-11 11:22 AM
Response to Reply #94 |
| 102. McConnel stonewalled the DEMS original support for the anti-post office legislation? |
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How?
Or are we saying that IF the DEMS had tried to come back later repeal something they supported and passed, McConnel would stop them?
Either way is okay with me. I just want to win.
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| -The BIGGEST Republican story that is NOT being reported. |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-28-11 10:57 PM |
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Well, why didn't the Democratic Congress repeal it? |
MrSlayer |
Sep-28-11 11:00 PM |
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That's a good question. I've always wondered why they never |
TheDebbieDee |
Sep-28-11 11:06 PM |
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Yeah, it makes you wonder. |
DrunkenBoat |
Sep-28-11 11:10 PM |
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Repiglickin Filibuster |
AndyTiedye |
Sep-29-11 02:15 AM |
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I never bought that. n/t |
Scuba |
Sep-29-11 08:11 AM |
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That's How the Votes Went |
AndyTiedye |
Sep-29-11 11:30 AM |
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+100 |
ellisonz |
Sep-30-11 03:31 AM |
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Are you +100ing the fact that DEMS supported and voted on the bill that is bankrupting the PO? |
Dr Fate |
Sep-30-11 10:36 AM |
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We didn't have the votes stop it. I also have no idea why Henry Waxman of all people co-sponsered it |
ellisonz |
Sep-30-11 03:32 PM |
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They would have called Obama a "socialist" if he had even tried. |
Dr Fate |
Sep-29-11 01:27 PM |
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200 Years of a "Socialist" PO -- funny --- |
defendandprotect |
Sep-29-11 06:43 PM |
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those socialist post offices? |
newspeak |
Sep-30-11 12:04 PM |
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I trust our DEM leadership more than some old fore father from hundreds of years ago. |
Dr Fate |
Sep-30-11 12:18 PM |
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Considering the fact that our young Wall Street Occupiers are showing a good |
Cal33 |
Sep-30-11 05:59 PM |
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Those "kids" have restored my faith in this country. |
truedelphi |
Oct-01-11 02:27 AM |
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Yes. Since the movement has already become a national movement spreading |
Cal33 |
Oct-01-11 10:22 AM |
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Also, our good DEMS suported the law and helped to pass it to begin with. |
Dr Fate |
Sep-29-11 01:44 PM |
#33 |
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The Democratic party has its flaws as well and when we find them we primary them. |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-29-11 04:52 PM |
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I thought "filibuster" was our excuse. Now it is "Liberals should have primaried them harder" |
Dr Fate |
Sep-30-11 11:10 AM |
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well we've tried that before |
newspeak |
Sep-30-11 12:09 PM |
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Hey, as long as the hope of "primaries" keeps some boots on the ground and some $$ in the coffers... |
Dr Fate |
Sep-30-11 12:16 PM |
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I reject your notion. |
Firebrand Gary |
Oct-01-11 04:56 AM |
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yeah as jim hightower says |
newspeak |
Oct-01-11 11:15 AM |
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Ouch ... Ouch -- !!! Didn't know that --- !!! Really, really sad = collusion -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-29-11 06:31 PM |
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Someone asked .... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-30-11 12:46 AM |
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Which could have been changed |
quakerboy |
Sep-29-11 01:56 PM |
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It Would Require *67* Votes to Change That Rule |
AndyTiedye |
Sep-30-11 12:33 AM |
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as I understand it |
quakerboy |
Sep-30-11 12:36 AM |
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The Constitutionality of That is Debatable |
AndyTiedye |
Sep-30-11 12:47 AM |
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The filibuster is not in the Constitution --- |
defendandprotect |
Sep-30-11 01:04 AM |
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Because Shrub Packed the Supreme Court |
AndyTiedye |
Sep-30-11 12:37 PM |
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The DEMS tried to vote against Bush's nominees and tried to filibster them too. |
Dr Fate |
Sep-30-11 12:46 PM |
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Right ... The Omnipotent, Superman Lieberman ... ROFL -- |
defendandprotect |
Sep-29-11 06:39 PM |
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Without Him, We Did Not Have 60 Votes |
AndyTiedye |
Sep-30-11 12:29 AM |
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Nonsense ... did you ever see the Dems do this in reverse .. and as for the nut case |
defendandprotect |
Sep-30-11 01:00 AM |
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Why didn't the Democrats filibuster this in 2006? n/t |
Uncle Joe |
Sep-30-11 11:20 AM |
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yeah, how come the repugs have become the filibuster addicts? |
newspeak |
Sep-30-11 12:14 PM |
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Would not have been pragmatic. Plus, they supported the bill to begin with. nt |
Dr Fate |
Sep-30-11 12:32 PM |
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There may be the appearance ot two political parties in Washington,... |
Raster |
Sep-29-11 09:04 AM |
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Bingo. |
Scuba |
Sep-29-11 11:43 AM |
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well said |
PuppetGubment |
Sep-29-11 04:44 PM |
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We were told, warned about buying of government ... no one still wants to believe it !! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-29-11 06:56 PM |
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Somehow, I just had a flashback to a cartoon I remember from 40 years ago. |
Jackpine Radical |
Sep-29-11 02:40 PM |
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Or No Child Left Behind |
proud2BlibKansan |
Sep-29-11 07:20 PM |
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$$$$$$$ |
elleng |
Sep-28-11 11:08 PM |
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Indeed. |
MrSlayer |
Sep-28-11 11:22 PM |
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Professional victimhood can, also, be pretty profitable. |
Selatius |
Sep-29-11 05:06 AM |
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Why is the first response to every post at DEMOCRATIC Underground to blame the Democrats? |
McCamy Taylor |
Sep-29-11 02:28 PM |
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Three words: |
Jackpine Radical |
Sep-29-11 02:41 PM |
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Why? This was NOT a Republican bill . . . Introduced by House Dems Davis/Waxman -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-29-11 07:17 PM |
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Which the Dems could have changed the rules on, years ago... |
riderinthestorm |
Sep-29-11 09:37 PM |
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DEMS voted with the Republicans for the anti-Post Office bill to begin with. |
Dr Fate |
Sep-30-11 10:38 AM |
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Democrats voted for the bill because the original language called for the dismantling of the unions |
brentspeak |
Sep-30-11 11:37 AM |
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I already know DEMS were fooled/tricked/pragmatized into destroying the Post Office. |
Dr Fate |
Sep-30-11 11:46 AM |
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You have as much time as you feel necessary to demonstrate to all of us here |
brentspeak |
Sep-30-11 11:57 AM |
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I agree with you that DEMS had a good excuse then, a good excuse now, good excuses in between... |
Dr Fate |
Sep-30-11 12:04 PM |
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The Democratic party controlled the Senate for just over 12 months. |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-29-11 04:47 PM |
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House Democrats Davis and Henry Waxman Introduced this legislation -- |
defendandprotect |
Sep-29-11 07:24 PM |
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That's why we primary our sitting politicians! |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-29-11 11:54 PM |
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Sad to see that Henry Waxman was involved in this -- |
defendandprotect |
Sep-30-11 12:56 AM |
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I agree, oh well he needs to be primaried. |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-30-11 03:31 AM |
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I'd agree -- because what was that his trade off to get into the Senate ... ??? |
defendandprotect |
Sep-30-11 05:09 PM |
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Yeah, but they also succeeded in preventing the GOP from immediately busting the postal unions |
brentspeak |
Sep-30-11 11:41 AM |
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And today, those Unions and the Post Office are STRONGER THAN EVER as a result of DEM strategy. |
Dr Fate |
Sep-30-11 11:54 AM |
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My guess is that you're not capable of telling us what else the Democrats could have done |
brentspeak |
Sep-30-11 12:18 PM |
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Tell us what personal efforts Reid, Pelosi and Obama are making to help Lynch. |
Dr Fate |
Sep-30-11 12:28 PM |
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Strong Post Office Union ... with no Post Offices -- !! Btw, PO property = $50 BILLION ... !!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-30-11 05:24 PM |
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After 2006, the Dems took the House and the Senate -- in '08 the presidency -- |
defendandprotect |
Sep-30-11 05:21 PM |
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Fell into the void of a no "sarcasm" sign --- |
defendandprotect |
Sep-30-11 05:14 PM |
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So they simply compromised on bankrutping the Post Office and handing PO funds over as a |
defendandprotect |
Sep-30-11 05:12 PM |
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good point |
spooked911 |
Sep-29-11 09:28 PM |
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because they only had a simple majority, the Fascists have it rigged for 60% to pass anything |
dogmoma56 |
Sep-29-11 06:16 PM |
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Farce -- the GOP would be lucky to keep a filibuster going even 18 hours and it would be over -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-30-11 12:57 AM |
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Are you talking about when the DEMS endorsed the anti-PO bill, or when they failed to repeal it? |
Dr Fate |
Sep-30-11 11:14 AM |
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Exactly -- GOP did it a short time before the '06 Dem win ... but they've had 5 years to change it ! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-29-11 06:29 PM |
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They have tried |
brentspeak |
Sep-30-11 11:32 AM |
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We need to relocate the GOP to Greenland immediately nt |
flamingdem |
Sep-28-11 11:08 PM |
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Greenland? |
SnohoDem |
Sep-28-11 11:11 PM |
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True. But maybe we could pay them off? |
flamingdem |
Sep-28-11 11:15 PM |
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yeah, greenland is beautiful and is still too close |
newspeak |
Sep-30-11 12:20 PM |
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That would only accelerate the oceans rise. |
Muskypundit |
Sep-29-11 04:30 PM |
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Actually ....Democrats introduced it -- |
defendandprotect |
Sep-29-11 07:25 PM |
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The final nail in the coffin on voting. |
glinda |
Sep-28-11 11:12 PM |
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The "Donor" that wants to own the Post Office must be the Koch Brothers |
flamingdem |
Sep-28-11 11:16 PM |
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Koch's own a few shipping/transit industries so bingo. |
glinda |
Sep-29-11 11:00 AM |
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Damn. Sounds plausible. Is ANYone running this up a flagpole? n/t |
Beartracks |
Sep-28-11 11:25 PM |
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Kick! Kick! Kick! |
givemebackmycountry |
Sep-28-11 11:34 PM |
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Amy Goodman (Democracy Now) covered this... |
mojowork_n |
Sep-29-11 12:28 AM |
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Well, I've seen it reported, but the thing I learned in another thread... |
TreasonousBastard |
Sep-29-11 12:42 AM |
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The Republican alternative at the time, IIRC, was Issa's current bill. |
Occulus |
Sep-29-11 09:21 AM |
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We were fooled/tricked/pragmatized into supporting tea bag agenda even wayyyyyyy back then. |
Dr Fate |
Sep-30-11 11:17 AM |
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and so the corporate owned greedy repugs give the democrats |
newspeak |
Oct-01-11 11:46 AM |
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Mail-in voting is GOP worst nightmare. |
ErikJ |
Sep-29-11 01:30 AM |
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Oh yes, the GOP will do everything they can to suppress voter involvement. |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-29-11 04:49 PM |
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Also, the rich USPO's money could be invested in the faltering derivatives/housing market. |
Festivito |
Sep-29-11 05:03 AM |
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How much is Post Office property worth ???? |
defendandprotect |
Sep-29-11 07:28 PM |
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50B$ sounds plausible. But, that has nothing to do with retirement fund investing in derivatives. |
Festivito |
Sep-30-11 01:55 AM |
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Correct --- not retirement funds which are being used for other purposes -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-30-11 05:42 PM |
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I'd hope capitalism as pure capitalism is finished. |
Festivito |
Sep-30-11 07:20 PM |
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Ah ... didn't know that -- !!! I heard they used the money to fund other agencies .... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-30-11 09:43 PM |
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Rachel reported on this a week or two ago. nt |
AtomicKitten |
Sep-29-11 05:04 AM |
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What do you expect from |
malaise |
Sep-29-11 05:06 AM |
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Yes and Darryl Issa is trying to get it privatized. |
Ilsa |
Sep-29-11 05:56 AM |
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It's strange that it's only coming to light now publically nt |
flamingdem |
Sep-29-11 09:11 AM |
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And, the way it did was that the union paid $1 million to RUN AN AD on TV ... !!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-29-11 07:29 PM |
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I think the reason why was that they wanted to establish an unbearable burden. |
Myrina |
Sep-29-11 01:09 PM |
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Who is stopping Reid, Pelosi, and Obama from "reporting" it? |
Dr Fate |
Sep-29-11 01:16 PM |
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The creation of the post office is in the consitution... |
KansDem |
Sep-29-11 01:38 PM |
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It empowers Congress to do so |
SnakeEyes |
Sep-29-11 03:57 PM |
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Cool- so the DEMS were right in first helping the GOP and also correct in not not stopping them now. |
Dr Fate |
Sep-30-11 11:19 AM |
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Bastards. |
Desertrose |
Sep-29-11 02:00 PM |
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It should be reported- how do we get things reported...... |
Tumbulu |
Sep-29-11 03:10 PM |
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K and R thanks for posting..nt |
Stuart G |
Sep-29-11 03:11 PM |
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The Grand Old Pricks strike again |
Blue Owl |
Sep-29-11 03:19 PM |
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No --- |
defendandprotect |
Sep-30-11 01:06 AM |
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Kicked and Rec'd they really make my stomach turn.KOCH Postal Services? |
louslobbs |
Sep-29-11 03:21 PM |
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Never forget the Postal Union. Much of what they do can be attributed to union busting too. |
ThomWV |
Sep-29-11 03:22 PM |
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elaborate |
SnakeEyes |
Sep-29-11 03:58 PM |
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The US Postal Service is the largest union employer in the nation |
Bjorn Against |
Sep-29-11 07:04 PM |
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Ok, I get what you're saying. |
SnakeEyes |
Sep-29-11 11:03 PM |
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FYI: For the "American Originalist" The US Postal Service is older than the US Constitution. |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-29-11 04:53 PM |
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so repeal it |
KurtNYC |
Sep-29-11 04:59 PM |
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Fuck the GOP and their tyrant corporate bosses. |
alfredo |
Sep-29-11 05:03 PM |
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It was the Democrats -- |
defendandprotect |
Sep-29-11 07:31 PM |
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Was the 10yr limit in the original bill? |
alfredo |
Sep-29-11 11:40 PM |
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Would certainly presume so --- |
defendandprotect |
Sep-30-11 12:49 AM |
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True. But remember, McConnell immediately began his stonewall on |
alfredo |
Sep-30-11 08:41 AM |
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McConnel stonewalled the DEMS original support for the anti-post office legislation? |
Dr Fate |
Sep-30-11 11:22 AM |
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No, he stonewalled, slow walked any legislation, no matter |
alfredo |
Sep-30-11 03:54 PM |
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Funny -- in a sad way --- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-30-11 05:29 PM |
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That's why I can't wait until Dems ONLY control the House .... so we control everything!! ROFL |
defendandprotect |
Sep-30-11 05:26 PM |
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Explain to us how the Democrats "could have changed it any time after that" |
brentspeak |
Sep-30-11 11:44 AM |
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Obama is a Republican President? |
Dr Fate |
Sep-30-11 11:49 AM |
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Filibuster is farce -- Dems have allowed this "out" without challenge .... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-30-11 05:39 PM |
#132 |
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BEHOLD, THE ENEMY WITHIN |
HowHasItComeToThis |
Sep-29-11 06:06 PM |
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and the more public services corporatized, the more the PEOPLE lose |
newspeak |
Oct-01-11 11:28 AM |
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Mail-in voting. Yet another nail in the Post Office coffin we need to fight. |
Ruby the Liberal |
Sep-29-11 06:13 PM |
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Yes -- a big issue -- especially because of all the gimmicking with "caging" votes .... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-30-11 12:53 AM |
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Take your ballot to the campaign headquarters in your area |
judesedit |
Sep-29-11 06:46 PM |
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People who live in the boondocks would have to travel pretty far.. |
Little Star |
Sep-29-11 07:21 PM |
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Thank YOU for reporting it, FG. |
yellerpup |
Sep-29-11 08:12 PM |
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Oregon and Washington vote exclusively by mail. |
ellisonz |
Sep-30-11 03:32 AM |
#93 |
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