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7. The final nail in the coffin on voting.
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  -The BIGGEST Republican story that is NOT being reported. Firebrand Gary  Sep-28-11 10:57 PM   #0 
  - Well, why didn't the Democratic Congress repeal it?  MrSlayer   Sep-28-11 11:00 PM   #1 
  - That's a good question. I've always wondered why they never  TheDebbieDee   Sep-28-11 11:06 PM   #2 
  - Yeah, it makes you wonder.  DrunkenBoat   Sep-28-11 11:10 PM   #5 
  - Repiglickin Filibuster  AndyTiedye   Sep-29-11 02:15 AM   #16 
  - I never bought that. n/t  Scuba   Sep-29-11 08:11 AM   #22 
  - That's How the Votes Went  AndyTiedye   Sep-29-11 11:30 AM   #27 
     - +100  ellisonz   Sep-30-11 03:31 AM   #92 
        - Are you +100ing the fact that DEMS supported and voted on the bill that is bankrupting the PO?  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 10:36 AM   #95 
           - We didn't have the votes stop it. I also have no idea why Henry Waxman of all people co-sponsered it  ellisonz   Sep-30-11 03:32 PM   #123 
  - They would have called Obama a "socialist" if he had even tried.  Dr Fate   Sep-29-11 01:27 PM   #31 
  - 200 Years of a "Socialist" PO -- funny ---  defendandprotect   Sep-29-11 06:43 PM   #60 
  - those socialist post offices?  newspeak   Sep-30-11 12:04 PM   #111 
     - I trust our DEM leadership more than some old fore father from hundreds of years ago.  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 12:18 PM   #117 
        - Considering the fact that our young Wall Street Occupiers are showing a good  Cal33   Sep-30-11 05:59 PM   #134 
           - Those "kids" have restored my faith in this country.  truedelphi   Oct-01-11 02:27 AM   #137 
              - Yes. Since the movement has already become a national movement spreading  Cal33   Oct-01-11 10:22 AM   #139 
  - Also, our good DEMS suported the law and helped to pass it to begin with.  Dr Fate   Sep-29-11 01:44 PM   #33 
  - The Democratic party has its flaws as well and when we find them we primary them.  Firebrand Gary   Sep-29-11 04:52 PM   #50 
  - I thought "filibuster" was our excuse. Now it is "Liberals should have primaried them harder"  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 11:10 AM   #97 
     - well we've tried that before  newspeak   Sep-30-11 12:09 PM   #113 
        - Hey, as long as the hope of "primaries" keeps some boots on the ground and some $$ in the coffers...  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 12:16 PM   #115 
           - I reject your notion.  Firebrand Gary   Oct-01-11 04:56 AM   #138 
              - yeah as jim hightower says  newspeak   Oct-01-11 11:15 AM   #140 
  - Ouch ... Ouch -- !!! Didn't know that --- !!! Really, really sad = collusion -- !!!  defendandprotect   Sep-29-11 06:31 PM   #58 
  - Someone asked ....  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 12:46 AM   #81 
  - Which could have been changed  quakerboy   Sep-29-11 01:56 PM   #34 
  - It Would Require *67* Votes to Change That Rule  AndyTiedye   Sep-30-11 12:33 AM   #79 
     - as I understand it  quakerboy   Sep-30-11 12:36 AM   #80 
        - The Constitutionality of That is Debatable  AndyTiedye   Sep-30-11 12:47 AM   #82 
        - The filibuster is not in the Constitution ---  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 01:04 AM   #88 
        - Because Shrub Packed the Supreme Court  AndyTiedye   Sep-30-11 12:37 PM   #121 
           - The DEMS tried to vote against Bush's nominees and tried to filibster them too.  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 12:46 PM   #122 
  - Right ... The Omnipotent, Superman Lieberman ... ROFL --  defendandprotect   Sep-29-11 06:39 PM   #59 
  - Without Him, We Did Not Have 60 Votes  AndyTiedye   Sep-30-11 12:29 AM   #78 
     - Nonsense ... did you ever see the Dems do this in reverse .. and as for the nut case  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 01:00 AM   #87 
  - Why didn't the Democrats filibuster this in 2006? n/t  Uncle Joe   Sep-30-11 11:20 AM   #101 
     - yeah, how come the repugs have become the filibuster addicts?  newspeak   Sep-30-11 12:14 PM   #114 
     - Would not have been pragmatic. Plus, they supported the bill to begin with. nt  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 12:32 PM   #120 
  - There may be the appearance ot two political parties in Washington,...  Raster   Sep-29-11 09:04 AM   #23 
  - Bingo.  Scuba   Sep-29-11 11:43 AM   #28 
  - well said  PuppetGubment   Sep-29-11 04:44 PM   #47 
  - We were told, warned about buying of government ... no one still wants to believe it !!  defendandprotect   Sep-29-11 06:56 PM   #62 
  - Somehow, I just had a flashback to a cartoon I remember from 40 years ago.  Jackpine Radical   Sep-29-11 02:40 PM   #37 
  - Or No Child Left Behind  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-29-11 07:20 PM   #65 
  - $$$$$$$  elleng   Sep-28-11 11:08 PM   #4 
  - Indeed.  MrSlayer   Sep-28-11 11:22 PM   #10 
  - Professional victimhood can, also, be pretty profitable.  Selatius   Sep-29-11 05:06 AM   #19 
  - Why is the first response to every post at DEMOCRATIC Underground to blame the Democrats?  McCamy Taylor   Sep-29-11 02:28 PM   #36 
  - Three words:  Jackpine Radical   Sep-29-11 02:41 PM   #38 
  - Why? This was NOT a Republican bill . . . Introduced by House Dems Davis/Waxman -- !!!  defendandprotect   Sep-29-11 07:17 PM   #64 
  - Which the Dems could have changed the rules on, years ago...  riderinthestorm   Sep-29-11 09:37 PM   #74 
  - DEMS voted with the Republicans for the anti-Post Office bill to begin with.  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 10:38 AM   #96 
     - Democrats voted for the bill because the original language called for the dismantling of the unions  brentspeak   Sep-30-11 11:37 AM   #104 
        - I already know DEMS were fooled/tricked/pragmatized into destroying the Post Office.  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 11:46 AM   #107 
           - You have as much time as you feel necessary to demonstrate to all of us here  brentspeak   Sep-30-11 11:57 AM   #110 
              - I agree with you that DEMS had a good excuse then, a good excuse now, good excuses in between...  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 12:04 PM   #112 
  - The Democratic party controlled the Senate for just over 12 months.  Firebrand Gary   Sep-29-11 04:47 PM   #48 
  - House Democrats Davis and Henry Waxman Introduced this legislation --  defendandprotect   Sep-29-11 07:24 PM   #67 
  - That's why we primary our sitting politicians!  Firebrand Gary   Sep-29-11 11:54 PM   #77 
  - Sad to see that Henry Waxman was involved in this --  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 12:56 AM   #85 
     - I agree, oh well he needs to be primaried.  Firebrand Gary   Sep-30-11 03:31 AM   #91 
        - I'd agree -- because what was that his trade off to get into the Senate ... ???  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 05:09 PM   #125 
  - Yeah, but they also succeeded in preventing the GOP from immediately busting the postal unions  brentspeak   Sep-30-11 11:41 AM   #105 
     - And today, those Unions and the Post Office are STRONGER THAN EVER as a result of DEM strategy.  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 11:54 AM   #109 
     - My guess is that you're not capable of telling us what else the Democrats could have done  brentspeak   Sep-30-11 12:18 PM   #116 
     - Tell us what personal efforts Reid, Pelosi and Obama are making to help Lynch.  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 12:28 PM   #119 
     - Strong Post Office Union ... with no Post Offices -- !! Btw, PO property = $50 BILLION ... !!!  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 05:24 PM   #129 
     - After 2006, the Dems took the House and the Senate -- in '08 the presidency --  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 05:21 PM   #128 
     - Fell into the void of a no "sarcasm" sign ---  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 05:14 PM   #127 
     - So they simply compromised on bankrutping the Post Office and handing PO funds over as a  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 05:12 PM   #126 
  - good point  spooked911   Sep-29-11 09:28 PM   #73 
  - because they only had a simple majority, the Fascists have it rigged for 60% to pass anything  dogmoma56   Sep-29-11 06:16 PM   #56 
  - Farce -- the GOP would be lucky to keep a filibuster going even 18 hours and it would be over -- !!  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 12:57 AM   #86 
  - Are you talking about when the DEMS endorsed the anti-PO bill, or when they failed to repeal it?  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 11:14 AM   #98 
  - Exactly -- GOP did it a short time before the '06 Dem win ... but they've had 5 years to change it !  defendandprotect   Sep-29-11 06:29 PM   #57 
  - They have tried  brentspeak   Sep-30-11 11:32 AM   #103 
  - We need to relocate the GOP to Greenland immediately nt  flamingdem   Sep-28-11 11:08 PM   #3 
  - Greenland?  SnohoDem   Sep-28-11 11:11 PM   #6 
  - True. But maybe we could pay them off?  flamingdem   Sep-28-11 11:15 PM   #8 
  - yeah, greenland is beautiful and is still too close  newspeak   Sep-30-11 12:20 PM   #118 
  - That would only accelerate the oceans rise.  Muskypundit   Sep-29-11 04:30 PM   #46 
  - Actually ....Democrats introduced it --  defendandprotect   Sep-29-11 07:25 PM   #68 
  - The final nail in the coffin on voting.  glinda   Sep-28-11 11:12 PM   #7 
  - The "Donor" that wants to own the Post Office must be the Koch Brothers  flamingdem   Sep-28-11 11:16 PM   #9 
     - Koch's own a few shipping/transit industries so bingo.  glinda   Sep-29-11 11:00 AM   #26 
  - Damn. Sounds plausible. Is ANYone running this up a flagpole? n/t  Beartracks   Sep-28-11 11:25 PM   #11 
  - Kick! Kick! Kick!  givemebackmycountry   Sep-28-11 11:34 PM   #12 
  - Amy Goodman (Democracy Now) covered this...  mojowork_n   Sep-29-11 12:28 AM   #13 
  - Well, I've seen it reported, but the thing I learned in another thread...  TreasonousBastard   Sep-29-11 12:42 AM   #14 
  - The Republican alternative at the time, IIRC, was Issa's current bill.  Occulus   Sep-29-11 09:21 AM   #25 
     - We were fooled/tricked/pragmatized into supporting tea bag agenda even wayyyyyyy back then.  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 11:17 AM   #99 
     - and so the corporate owned greedy repugs give the democrats  newspeak   Oct-01-11 11:46 AM   #142 
  - Mail-in voting is GOP worst nightmare.  ErikJ   Sep-29-11 01:30 AM   #15 
  - Oh yes, the GOP will do everything they can to suppress voter involvement.  Firebrand Gary   Sep-29-11 04:49 PM   #49 
  - Also, the rich USPO's money could be invested in the faltering derivatives/housing market.  Festivito   Sep-29-11 05:03 AM   #17 
  - How much is Post Office property worth ????  defendandprotect   Sep-29-11 07:28 PM   #69 
     - 50B$ sounds plausible. But, that has nothing to do with retirement fund investing in derivatives.  Festivito   Sep-30-11 01:55 AM   #90 
        - Correct --- not retirement funds which are being used for other purposes -- !!!  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 05:42 PM   #133 
           - I'd hope capitalism as pure capitalism is finished.  Festivito   Sep-30-11 07:20 PM   #135 
              - Ah ... didn't know that -- !!! I heard they used the money to fund other agencies ....  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 09:43 PM   #136 
  - Rachel reported on this a week or two ago. nt  AtomicKitten   Sep-29-11 05:04 AM   #18 
  - What do you expect from  malaise   Sep-29-11 05:06 AM   #20 
  - Yes and Darryl Issa is trying to get it privatized.  Ilsa   Sep-29-11 05:56 AM   #21 
  - It's strange that it's only coming to light now publically nt  flamingdem   Sep-29-11 09:11 AM   #24 
     - And, the way it did was that the union paid $1 million to RUN AN AD on TV ... !!!  defendandprotect   Sep-29-11 07:29 PM   #70 
  - I think the reason why was that they wanted to establish an unbearable burden.  Myrina   Sep-29-11 01:09 PM   #29 
  - Who is stopping Reid, Pelosi, and Obama from "reporting" it?  Dr Fate   Sep-29-11 01:16 PM   #30 
  - The creation of the post office is in the consitution...  KansDem   Sep-29-11 01:38 PM   #32 
  - It empowers Congress to do so  SnakeEyes   Sep-29-11 03:57 PM   #44 
     - Cool- so the DEMS were right in first helping the GOP and also correct in not not stopping them now.  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 11:19 AM   #100 
  - Bastards.  Desertrose   Sep-29-11 02:00 PM   #35 
  - It should be reported- how do we get things reported......  Tumbulu   Sep-29-11 03:10 PM   #39 
  - K and R thanks for posting..nt  Stuart G   Sep-29-11 03:11 PM   #40 
  - The Grand Old Pricks strike again  Blue Owl   Sep-29-11 03:19 PM   #41 
  - No ---  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 01:06 AM   #89 
  - Kicked and Rec'd they really make my stomach turn.KOCH Postal Services?  louslobbs   Sep-29-11 03:21 PM   #42 
  - Never forget the Postal Union. Much of what they do can be attributed to union busting too.  ThomWV   Sep-29-11 03:22 PM   #43 
  - elaborate  SnakeEyes   Sep-29-11 03:58 PM   #45 
     - The US Postal Service is the largest union employer in the nation  Bjorn Against   Sep-29-11 07:04 PM   #63 
        - Ok, I get what you're saying.  SnakeEyes   Sep-29-11 11:03 PM   #75 
  - FYI: For the "American Originalist" The US Postal Service is older than the US Constitution.  Firebrand Gary   Sep-29-11 04:53 PM   #51 
  - so repeal it  KurtNYC   Sep-29-11 04:59 PM   #52 
  - Fuck the GOP and their tyrant corporate bosses.  alfredo   Sep-29-11 05:03 PM   #53 
  - It was the Democrats --  defendandprotect   Sep-29-11 07:31 PM   #71 
     - Was the 10yr limit in the original bill?  alfredo   Sep-29-11 11:40 PM   #76 
        - Would certainly presume so ---  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 12:49 AM   #83 
           - True. But remember, McConnell immediately began his stonewall on  alfredo   Sep-30-11 08:41 AM   #94 
           - McConnel stonewalled the DEMS original support for the anti-post office legislation?  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 11:22 AM   #102 
           - No, he stonewalled, slow walked any legislation, no matter  alfredo   Sep-30-11 03:54 PM   #124 
           - Funny -- in a sad way --- !!!  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 05:29 PM   #131 
           - That's why I can't wait until Dems ONLY control the House .... so we control everything!! ROFL  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 05:26 PM   #130 
           - Explain to us how the Democrats "could have changed it any time after that"  brentspeak   Sep-30-11 11:44 AM   #106 
              - Obama is a Republican President?  Dr Fate   Sep-30-11 11:49 AM   #108 
              - Filibuster is farce -- Dems have allowed this "out" without challenge ....  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 05:39 PM   #132 
  - BEHOLD, THE ENEMY WITHIN  HowHasItComeToThis   Sep-29-11 06:06 PM   #54 
  - and the more public services corporatized, the more the PEOPLE lose  newspeak   Oct-01-11 11:28 AM   #141 
  - Mail-in voting. Yet another nail in the Post Office coffin we need to fight.  Ruby the Liberal   Sep-29-11 06:13 PM   #55 
  - Yes -- a big issue -- especially because of all the gimmicking with "caging" votes ....  defendandprotect   Sep-30-11 12:53 AM   #84 
  - Take your ballot to the campaign headquarters in your area  judesedit   Sep-29-11 06:46 PM   #61 
  - People who live in the boondocks would have to travel pretty far..  Little Star   Sep-29-11 07:21 PM   #66 
  - Thank YOU for reporting it, FG.  yellerpup   Sep-29-11 08:12 PM   #72 
  - Oregon and Washington vote exclusively by mail.  ellisonz   Sep-30-11 03:32 AM   #93 
 

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