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DrunkenBoat Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 02:03 AM
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62. he "should" have? if you think most smokers die at 57, you must have led
Edited on Thu Sep-29-11 02:04 AM by DrunkenBoat
a sheltered life.

I know more non-smokers that died young than smokers. Two in my immediate family, one from a one-in-a-million disease, one from a heart attack at 45 (my non-smoking, non-drinking, straight arrow grandfather). also one that nearly died at 30 from hanta virus.

Most of my family is very clean-living, but all the smokers save one are either still alive or died in their 70s-80s. And the one smoker that died at 67 had a hereditary disease.

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  -I am obese, same as Chris Christie. I am obese because I have an addiction applegrove  Sep-28-11 07:19 PM   #0 
  - Best thread addressing this issue  Ishoutandscream2   Sep-28-11 07:22 PM   #1 
  - Time to get off the cheeseburger diet  DontTreadOnMe   Sep-28-11 07:22 PM   #2 
  - That is what I should do. I do have a selection of teas on hand. I should try that instead of pop.  applegrove   Sep-28-11 07:23 PM   #3 
  - I gave up sodas, the HFCS in them is deadly.  dixiegrrrrl   Sep-28-11 07:29 PM   #9 
  - Me, too  Iwillnevergiveup   Sep-29-11 12:05 AM   #53 
  - Iced tea with lemon or lime is great, too.  emcguffie   Sep-29-11 02:09 PM   #91 
  - I gave them up, too  RockaFowler   Sep-29-11 08:45 AM   #76 
  - Dear applegrove  K8-EEE   Sep-28-11 07:37 PM   #14 
     - Given that 2/3 of the population is not fat and sick--  eridani   Sep-28-11 07:39 PM   #18 
     - They get that way though. People over 50  K8-EEE   Sep-28-11 08:05 PM   #31 
     - I'm on medication too.  applegrove   Sep-28-11 08:34 PM   #38 
     - In what century were 50 year olds ever healthier than 25 year olds? n/t  eridani   Sep-28-11 11:48 PM   #50 
        - None but look at some old "crowd films" from baseball games etc.  K8-EEE   Sep-29-11 01:13 AM   #54 
           - We didn't live as long either  eridani   Sep-29-11 05:34 AM   #67 
     - We don't consider them sick til the end  idiotgardener   Sep-28-11 08:29 PM   #37 
        - Personally speaking, it's nice to be able to get old enough to be more likely  eridani   Sep-28-11 11:50 PM   #51 
           - Well my grandpa lived till 98 and died in his sleep in 1995  K8-EEE   Sep-29-11 01:16 AM   #55 
              - The longer you live, the more you come to realize that where longevity is concerned,  DrunkenBoat   Sep-29-11 01:52 AM   #59 
              - It's not so much living long but HOW you live  K8-EEE   Sep-29-11 03:02 AM   #64 
                 - There are all sorts of so-called "paradoxical" populations in the world.  DrunkenBoat   Sep-29-11 03:25 AM   #65 
                    - Good observation about class and fat  eridani   Sep-29-11 05:47 AM   #69 
              - People who are overweight, but short of obese, actually live longer  eridani   Sep-29-11 05:36 AM   #68 
     - Taft topped 300#. Grover Cleveland couldn't have been far behind.  DrunkenBoat   Sep-29-11 01:41 AM   #58 
  - Toxic Coke  otohara   Sep-28-11 07:26 PM   #8 
  - Its really not that easy  Marrah_G   Sep-28-11 07:51 PM   #25 
  - The burgers were never my problem  Abq_Sarah   Sep-28-11 09:41 PM   #44 
  - People tend to gain weight and fat mass after 40. This is true even of tribal people living  DrunkenBoat   Sep-29-11 01:54 AM   #60 
     - Peoples' metabolisms slow down with age  Hippo_Tron   Sep-29-11 09:44 PM   #101 
  - ...  CaliforniaPeggy   Sep-28-11 07:24 PM   #4 
  - You do what's best for you, when you are ready...  catabryna   Sep-28-11 07:24 PM   #5 
  - "thin and miserable"  DontTreadOnMe   Sep-28-11 07:26 PM   #7 
  - As the wife of a man who passed away...  catabryna   Sep-28-11 07:29 PM   #10 
  - I am thin  HockeyMom   Sep-28-11 07:40 PM   #19 
  - I walk a lot...  catabryna   Sep-28-11 07:43 PM   #21 
  - I overeat because I am a glutton and I love the taste.  roody   Sep-28-11 09:25 PM   #41 
  - I'm thin & over 50. I do the same thing. Also, when I get involved in projects I don't  DrunkenBoat   Sep-29-11 01:59 AM   #61 
  - And btw... I'm Mother Earth.  catabryna   Sep-28-11 07:53 PM   #26 
  - Being hungry and unable to focus on tasks sure is, though n/t  eridani   Sep-28-11 07:58 PM   #28 
  - yes, it can be. if you can't eat any of the foods you really like, and you have  Scout   Sep-29-11 12:05 PM   #87 
     - Vegetarians eat many more foods than only vegetables.  roody   Oct-01-11 09:08 AM   #122 
  - +1  Canuckistanian   Sep-28-11 07:42 PM   #20 
     - +1,000 nt  catabryna   Sep-28-11 07:47 PM   #22 
  - When I'm depressed I waaaaay overeat and pack on the pounds -  gateley   Sep-28-11 07:25 PM   #6 
  - I understand. I am addicted to cigarettes.  RebelOne   Sep-28-11 07:32 PM   #11 
  - And, I understand you as well.  catabryna   Sep-28-11 07:35 PM   #12 
     - he "should" have? if you think most smokers die at 57, you must have led  DrunkenBoat   Sep-29-11 02:03 AM   #62 
     - Perhaps I needed the sarcasm thingy?  catabryna   Sep-29-11 05:02 PM   #93 
     - Well, all the women on my mother's side lived to their 80s, so I plan to live another 10 years.  RebelOne   Sep-29-11 09:07 PM   #99 
     - Yep. According to all statistics, I should be dead now.  RebelOne   Sep-29-11 09:05 PM   #98 
  - Fat, schmat. He's an asshole. He would lose by more than Mittens will. nt  onehandle   Sep-28-11 07:37 PM   #13 
  - Keep a detailed log of what you eat each and every day.  TheCowsCameHome   Sep-28-11 07:38 PM   #15 
  - Milk's supposed to be good for you. What are you, a communist? nt  raccoon   Sep-29-11 08:14 AM   #73 
     - No, comrade, milk is good - but it's a food, not a beverage.  TheCowsCameHome   Sep-29-11 08:21 AM   #74 
  - I am good to go with whatever you are if you're not a rw.  efhmc   Sep-28-11 07:39 PM   #16 
  - Well, not everyone  pipi_k   Sep-28-11 07:39 PM   #17 
  - Everyone is a food addict. And a multiple substance abuser to boot  eridani   Sep-28-11 08:00 PM   #30 
     - I think not  pipi_k   Sep-28-11 09:46 PM   #46 
        - Sorry. Forgot the sarcasm tag n/t  eridani   Sep-28-11 11:50 PM   #52 
           - Oh...OK. Just can't tell these days... ;) n/t  pipi_k   Sep-29-11 09:05 AM   #78 
  - No, not necessarily  treestar   Sep-28-11 07:50 PM   #23 
  - Lets send Christie donations of bacon.  Historic NY   Sep-28-11 07:51 PM   #24 
  - I am in awe of your bravery  MerryBlooms   Sep-28-11 07:54 PM   #27 
  - I lose then gain about 40 lbs every decade  Bragi   Sep-28-11 07:58 PM   #29 
  - I know what you mean...down 11 in the last few weeks.  Historic NY   Sep-28-11 09:08 PM   #40 
  - I don't care what happens to Chris Christie  tularetom   Sep-28-11 08:07 PM   #32 
  - Our current president is a smoker  Yo_Mama   Sep-28-11 08:11 PM   #33 
  - I've been addicted to food, nicotine, to another person.....  Blasphemer   Sep-28-11 08:15 PM   #34 
  - Being fat killed my poor grandmother very young; she was only 98  REP   Sep-28-11 08:26 PM   #35 
  - Oh I do have ptsd which makes me seek solace in food. That is certainly true. fact is I am not in  applegrove   Sep-28-11 09:26 PM   #42 
  - *nothing* about CRISTIE is worthy of discussion regarding his weight. n/t  UTUSN   Sep-28-11 08:28 PM   #36 
  - Unfortunately, denialism can be found among those who are not obese as well...  markpkessinger   Sep-28-11 09:03 PM   #39 
  - HFCS should be banned.  pansypoo53219   Sep-28-11 09:38 PM   #43 
  - I don't drink regular soda. I drink diet. But I read that diet soda will add  applegrove   Sep-28-11 09:41 PM   #45 
     - I only used to drink diet soda too, and...  pipi_k   Sep-28-11 09:52 PM   #47 
     - That is too bad.  applegrove   Sep-28-11 09:58 PM   #48 
     - try not eating meat. good for 8-10 pounds with me.  DrunkenBoat   Sep-29-11 03:43 AM   #66 
        - Or being a female of reproductive age. Gain and loss of that amount of weight  eridani   Sep-29-11 05:50 AM   #70 
        - Haven't touched beef  pipi_k   Sep-29-11 09:12 AM   #79 
     - There are theories about how it can make you crave actual sugar  Hippo_Tron   Sep-29-11 09:50 PM   #102 
        - my experience is that diet pop just makes me want more pop.  Scout   Sep-29-11 09:58 PM   #103 
           - I think it's different with me because my parents never allowed me to have sugared soda  Hippo_Tron   Sep-29-11 10:16 PM   #104 
  - Millions have glandular/metabolic disorders that are untreated.  Manifestor_of_Light   Sep-28-11 11:34 PM   #49 
  - I hate him like poison,  6000eliot   Sep-29-11 01:16 AM   #56 
  - I don't think weight has much to do with how well someone can do the job of being President.  DrunkenBoat   Sep-29-11 01:36 AM   #57 
  - Believe that you CAN improve your situation if you want to.  Warren DeMontague   Sep-29-11 02:31 AM   #63 
  - It's pointless to expect significant weight loss from that kind of regimen  eridani   Sep-29-11 05:52 AM   #71 
     - I'd suggest anyone who WANTS to lose weight try rigorous (at least 1 hr/day, 5 days/week) exercise  Warren DeMontague   Sep-29-11 11:41 AM   #86 
        - No way in hell is it "encouraging" to be told that you are a failure for merely  eridani   Sep-29-11 06:46 PM   #95 
        - Uh, yeah. I would suggest perhaps consulting a therapist for whatever issue you seem to have.  Warren DeMontague   Sep-29-11 07:34 PM   #96 
           - I don't want to lose weight MORE than I want some of my other goals  eridani   Sep-30-11 01:08 AM   #109 
              - And more power to you.  Warren DeMontague   Sep-30-11 01:21 AM   #110 
                 - My point was that whatever regimen you undertake, you have NO control whatsoever  eridani   Sep-30-11 02:48 AM   #112 
                    - I don't think I made that statement. There is a huge variation in metabolism, body type, etc.  Warren DeMontague   Sep-30-11 10:30 AM   #114 
                       - Sometimes I do see implied statements that may or may not have been  eridani   Oct-01-11 01:34 AM   #120 
        - It will for most folks  Dorian Gray   Sep-30-11 05:08 AM   #113 
           - Alcohol packs a lot of calories.  Warren DeMontague   Sep-30-11 03:06 PM   #116 
  - if a person was smart, and i thought they could do the job better than the rest, i would not even  seabeyond   Sep-29-11 06:39 AM   #72 
  - People are fat (or thin) for all kinds of reasons.  Chorophyll   Sep-29-11 08:39 AM   #75 
  - I wasn't making fun of his looks. I was pointing out he is outta control in one part of his life.  applegrove   Sep-29-11 08:36 PM   #97 
     - You don't really know that for sure, though.  Chorophyll   Sep-29-11 11:05 PM   #107 
        - That's true. The more I hear about him the more I don't like him.  applegrove   Sep-29-11 11:14 PM   #108 
  - Amen. K&R  closeupready   Sep-29-11 08:47 AM   #77 
  - You are nothing like Chris Christie.  dawg   Sep-29-11 09:32 AM   #80 
  - Eloquently stated, and accurate n/t  Worship Money   Sep-29-11 09:59 AM   #82 
  - My mother was obese, big time  Lynx   Sep-29-11 09:51 AM   #81 
  - well, i have found in my 52 years that often, "you're fat, lose weight"  Scout   Sep-29-11 12:18 PM   #88 
     - They refuse to treat thyroid and adrenal problems.  Manifestor_of_Light   Sep-29-11 12:39 PM   #90 
  - I'm 25 and have struggled with my weight all my life, too.  Odin2005   Sep-29-11 10:13 AM   #83 
  - wheat belly? - you sure it's not a wheat or carbs addition?  Locrian   Sep-29-11 10:25 AM   #84 
  - Very insightful.  JNelson6563   Sep-29-11 10:49 AM   #85 
  - Hence, smokers should never be elected President?  LanternWaste   Sep-29-11 12:26 PM   #89 
  - The current President sneaks cigarettes. nt  Romulox   Sep-29-11 02:32 PM   #92 
  - You could just be more highly evolved  Major Nikon   Sep-29-11 05:18 PM   #94 
  - You are greatly exaggerating the effect that obesity has on life expectancy.  totodeinhere   Sep-29-11 09:29 PM   #100 
  - I am obese, AND I smoke. "Outsiders" simply don't understand.  johnaries   Sep-29-11 10:26 PM   #105 
  - Chantix worked for me 3 years ago. I went for long walks or logged onto the  applegrove   Sep-29-11 10:40 PM   #106 
  - Oh my honey- come over here and get a hug!  BeHereNow   Sep-30-11 01:56 AM   #111 
  - Thanks for all the good information. Bookmarking this.  applegrove   Sep-30-11 02:18 PM   #115 
     - Link for you- Dr. Walter Kaye pioneer in brain imaging and eating disorders  BeHereNow   Sep-30-11 04:01 PM   #118 
        - great links, thank you!! n/t  Scout   Oct-01-11 09:02 AM   #121 
  - It's much eaiser to keep that weight down if you start smoking.  deaniac21   Sep-30-11 03:15 PM   #117 
  - I quit smoking 3 years ago. That is one of the many reasons why I am obese.  applegrove   Sep-30-11 04:04 PM   #119 
  - Want to hear a weird story?  NNN0LHI   Oct-01-11 09:13 AM   #123 

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