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Mon Sep-26-11 02:31 AM
Response to Reply #73 |
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It wouldn't be much for a couple making $300K and it would still be considerably less than they would have paid when Reagan was presidunce.
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| -KRUGMAN: "do the wealthy look to you like the victims of class warfare?" |
kpete |
Sep-23-11 08:45 AM |
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For a couple making 250K in New York City or San Francisco, it may |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-23-11 08:54 AM |
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They can go cry on their nannies and door men. nt |
My Good Babushka |
Sep-23-11 09:28 AM |
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Do you really think a couple making 250K in New York have a nanny or a doorman? |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-23-11 10:26 AM |
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Any couple that can't get by on $250K doesn't deserve $250K |
Orrex |
Sep-23-11 05:49 PM |
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And I guarantee that a family in central florida has one hell of a smaller |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-23-11 06:30 PM |
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Again, if a couple can't scrape by on $250K, then that couple doesn't deserve $250K |
Orrex |
Sep-23-11 07:00 PM |
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SlimJimmy is Not Saying They Can't Scrape by |
On the Road |
Sep-23-11 07:36 PM |
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Median income for men in NYC is $37K. Median household income in the richest census tract in the |
DrunkenBoat |
Sep-23-11 11:48 PM |
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stop pulling reality into the argument. Commentor thinks everyone is like him/her. |
Tunkamerica |
Sep-24-11 02:27 AM |
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Yes, stop doing that! |
Enthusiast |
Sep-24-11 03:50 AM |
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I don't know how people can say things like that with a straight face. |
DrunkenBoat |
Sep-24-11 06:42 AM |
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It's easier when you're in that 5% |
Tunkamerica |
Sep-24-11 06:49 AM |
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Where is the link for those figures? |
October |
Sep-24-11 08:37 AM |
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Here |
DrunkenBoat |
Sep-24-11 01:11 PM |
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So they should be taxed more? Are we taxing the middle and upper middle class more now? |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-25-11 10:17 PM |
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Are they *rich*. Are they the millionaires and billionaires of which the |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-26-11 10:17 AM |
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Waving your hands and running in circles is not a good debating method. |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-23-11 09:38 PM |
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Being totally unaware of what it costs to live is not a good basis for your point. |
Jakes Progress |
Sep-23-11 10:14 PM |
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Just a thought, but |
whathehell |
Sep-24-11 08:01 AM |
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well, that's true for many people, but |
fishwax |
Sep-26-11 12:07 AM |
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If you make $250K in NYC you could move to any NYC suburb |
latebloomer |
Sep-26-11 07:37 PM |
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Congratulations, you'vr just bought into the class warfare argument as well. I wonder how |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-25-11 06:22 PM |
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Well Mr Moneybags, don't forget to tip your doorman |
Orrex |
Sep-23-11 10:37 PM |
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You have consistantly missed my point in this thread by a mile. |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-25-11 06:17 PM |
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He does say so |
Major Nikon |
Sep-25-11 11:28 PM |
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But not a word in any speech. And that is what folks remember. They |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-26-11 08:11 AM |
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Perhaps for those who read too much into it |
Major Nikon |
Sep-26-11 08:35 AM |
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Nothing to read into. He said millionaires and billionaires. That seems pretty f'ing clear to me. |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-26-11 10:11 AM |
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SlimJimmy, how much money a family needs to live can depend on |
JDPriestly |
Sep-24-11 02:06 AM |
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I heard the President speak again today. He said "All I'm asking is that |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-25-11 06:12 PM |
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What do you think the income level of a millionaire is? |
Major Nikon |
Sep-25-11 11:48 PM |
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Please, show me a millionaire or billionaire (even better) making 250k a year. |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-26-11 10:14 AM |
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No problem |
Major Nikon |
Sep-26-11 02:47 PM |
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130,000 annual income, my ass. And this is just one example. |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-26-11 07:02 PM |
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Wow! You refute extensive research by a best selling Ph.D with what you just pulled out of your ass |
Major Nikon |
Sep-26-11 09:12 PM |
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The millionaitres and billionaires that the President is referring to |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-26-11 09:39 PM |
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Sep-26-11 10:03 PM |
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I just did. (nt) |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-26-11 10:10 PM |
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+1 |
SmileyRose |
Sep-23-11 07:31 PM |
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That is what the doorman makes |
julian09 |
Sep-23-11 10:09 PM |
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you really think so? |
Tunkamerica |
Sep-24-11 04:05 AM |
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If they are a qualified Sanctified Straight 'couple' making 250K |
Bluenorthwest |
Sep-23-11 09:47 AM |
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I don't think anyone making under a million dollars needs to be paying more in taxes during this |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-23-11 10:25 AM |
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Gee. That's what billo says too. |
Jakes Progress |
Sep-23-11 10:15 PM |
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Mmmmm yourself. I have a mind and an opinion all my own. If you want |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-25-11 06:24 PM |
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You need a reality check, I do believe. |
keopeli |
Sep-23-11 10:38 PM |
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Especially if their wealth comes from their investments |
Lorien |
Sep-24-11 12:20 AM |
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The reality is that the President plans to raise taxes on a signifcant number of folks who are not |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-25-11 10:28 PM |
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what does the economy have to do with it? |
hfojvt |
Sep-23-11 10:46 PM |
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Setting it at $250k is more progressive. |
Admiral Loinpresser |
Sep-24-11 12:25 AM |
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under a million? seriously? what % of people make over a million a year? 5? 7? |
Tunkamerica |
Sep-24-11 04:08 AM |
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That's the part that all the repugs try to blow smoke over. |
gtar100 |
Sep-23-11 07:28 PM |
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They aren't the problem. It's the multimillionaires and billionaires |
JHB |
Sep-23-11 09:56 AM |
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The problem, as I see it, is that President Obama's plan includes a tax increase for couples |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-23-11 10:20 AM |
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A couple making $250G's a year SHOULD be a millionaire |
SmileyRose |
Sep-23-11 07:37 PM |
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How much would taxes go up for a couple making $250K? |
subterranean |
Sep-24-11 01:19 AM |
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Most likely zero |
Major Nikon |
Sep-26-11 02:31 AM |
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That's my view as well. Although I would be more in favor of a flat tax with persons below a |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-23-11 02:19 PM |
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We need progressive taxation -- no flat tax -- earn more, pay more ... no taxes on poor ... !!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-23-11 07:53 PM |
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The only thing more regressive than a flat tax is our current system where |
Admiral Loinpresser |
Sep-24-11 12:28 AM |
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Sep-24-11 03:56 AM |
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$250K is within the top 20%. 80% of the populace earns less. |
Doremus |
Sep-23-11 06:55 PM |
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Not accurate |
phiddle |
Sep-23-11 08:24 PM |
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Only 1,5% of the population earn more than $250,000, not 20 % |
happyslug |
Sep-23-11 08:40 PM |
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I was going to say... I don't know anyone making that. Not even the GM of my station. |
Tunkamerica |
Sep-24-11 02:29 AM |
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They are the problem. The problem is that over 50% of the population seem to think that... |
JVS |
Sep-23-11 11:38 PM |
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boo hoo. They can live in Washington Heights or the Lower East Side. |
provis99 |
Sep-23-11 07:34 PM |
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Maybe they should learn to fucking commute. |
JVS |
Sep-23-11 08:03 PM |
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They do -- which costs literally thousands in tolls per year... |
October |
Sep-24-11 08:40 AM |
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it may feel like it, but it's not |
fishwax |
Sep-23-11 10:36 PM |
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You have no idea what class warfare is |
Taft_Bathtub |
Sep-23-11 11:01 PM |
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So you are pissed off at the mid-level executive that makes 250k and didn't get sick? That |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-26-11 09:42 PM |
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Rent $10,000 a month? = $120,000 /year |
ErikJ |
Sep-23-11 11:06 PM |
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Interesting math. So you think they NET $250K? |
October |
Sep-24-11 08:41 AM |
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Jesus christ, that's your first thought about this? |
enki23 |
Sep-23-11 11:23 PM |
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"Jesus christ, that's your first thought about this?" |
Enthusiast |
Sep-24-11 04:04 AM |
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I had to check...Oh, yeah it's a thread about a Krugman column. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-24-11 09:05 AM |
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Everyone struggles. We all have stories.Only the top 1% doesn't, at least not money struggle stories |
October |
Sep-24-11 08:44 AM |
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I Live in NYC, and I've Lived in SF. 98% of the Entire Population Lives On Far Less than $250K |
Yavin4 |
Sep-23-11 11:27 PM |
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Oh, please. Median income in NYC = $37K for men, $32K for women. |
DrunkenBoat |
Sep-23-11 11:43 PM |
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You might want to add Seattle to that list. This is very true. Everything |
juajen |
Sep-24-11 12:24 AM |
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Seattle? Baloney. Median family income is $62K. Median male income = $40K. |
DrunkenBoat |
Sep-24-11 06:33 AM |
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That's a tired strawman at best..................... |
NWLib |
Sep-24-11 12:57 AM |
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There are two ways of thinking about wealth. |
JDPriestly |
Sep-24-11 02:24 AM |
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Nobody has to live in Manhattan |
Major Nikon |
Sep-26-11 03:08 AM |
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They needn't worry. Obama hasn't proposed raising that couple's taxes by one dime. |
subterranean |
Sep-24-11 01:03 AM |
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If they'd learn how to manage their money reasonably well, it would not feel |
Zorra |
Sep-24-11 01:29 AM |
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whitewhine? |
Tunkamerica |
Sep-24-11 02:19 AM |
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I was going to add your name to 'the list'. |
Enthusiast |
Sep-24-11 04:12 AM |
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Median income for men in NYC = $37K. |
DrunkenBoat |
Sep-24-11 06:28 AM |
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Can't... rec... more... than... once... |
krispos42 |
Sep-23-11 08:55 AM |
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It is a redistribution of wealth |
Drale |
Sep-23-11 08:59 AM |
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No, only socialists do that! |
krispos42 |
Sep-23-11 09:02 AM |
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We'll just call it *reverse socialism* then. That has a nice ring to it. |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-23-11 09:03 AM |
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Aha! "Anti-socialism". |
krispos42 |
Sep-23-11 10:12 AM |
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Asocialism |
JVS |
Sep-23-11 11:31 PM |
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Sep-24-11 05:25 AM |
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The going rate according to one source I read is 25 cents a post... |
MedicalAdmin |
Sep-24-11 06:28 AM |
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Recommend |
xchrom |
Sep-23-11 09:26 AM |
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Recommend |
angel823 |
Sep-23-11 10:36 AM |
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Amazing |
Johnny2X2X |
Sep-23-11 10:37 AM |
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yeah, some of the teabaggers think being fair |
newspeak |
Sep-24-11 02:07 PM |
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Who is sharing the sacrifice? Who is cutting back? Not the wealthy. K&R. |
ck4829 |
Sep-23-11 02:07 PM |
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"Shared Sacrifice" = "I take YOUR 'Share' . . . YOU 'Sacrifice'!" |
HughBeaumont |
Sep-23-11 02:31 PM |
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k/r |
fishwax |
Sep-23-11 03:08 PM |
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K$R lol, class warfare against the rich now that's rich. |
louslobbs |
Sep-23-11 04:01 PM |
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** dupe ** |
DaveJ |
Sep-23-11 07:30 PM |
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It's really a weird campaign |
DaveJ |
Sep-23-11 07:30 PM |
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We got uppity - we are being punished. |
SmileyRose |
Sep-23-11 07:40 PM |
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The yardstick of logic can't measure the volume of ignorance |
Cresent City Kid |
Sep-23-11 08:13 PM |
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Krugman sums it up succinctly, as usual. K&R n/t |
Martin Eden |
Sep-23-11 07:40 PM |
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LOL |
avaistheone1 |
Sep-23-11 07:41 PM |
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I can barely force my eyes to read this truth. Bastards! |
lonestarnot |
Sep-23-11 07:49 PM |
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Wealthy look like what they are ... beneficiaries of government subsidies, largess ... !!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-23-11 07:51 PM |
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Krugman - sometimes I love him, sometimes I don't. Right now, |
johnaries |
Sep-23-11 07:52 PM |
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Who are the beneficiaries of our MIC/Imperialism ... warprofiteering --- ????? |
defendandprotect |
Sep-23-11 07:58 PM |
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Actually yes because they're winning. Wars usually have two sides. |
Initech |
Sep-23-11 09:03 PM |
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Adopt a Job Creator |
Mrs. Ted Nancy |
Sep-23-11 09:51 PM |
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K&R for solid thinking. |
Jakes Progress |
Sep-23-11 10:17 PM |
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Now that you mention it...... |
DeSwiss |
Sep-23-11 11:22 PM |
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Reading the first half of this thread ... |
1StrongBlackMan |
Sep-24-11 12:19 AM |
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Very True, Sir |
The Magistrate |
Sep-24-11 12:26 AM |
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And the pitiful part is ... |
1StrongBlackMan |
Sep-24-11 01:03 AM |
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It Is A Symptom Of A Larger Confusion, Sir |
The Magistrate |
Sep-24-11 01:41 AM |
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Well stated ... |
1StrongBlackMan |
Sep-25-11 12:17 PM |
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! Excellent. |
October |
Sep-24-11 08:47 AM |
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Yeah, no shit |
upi402 |
Sep-24-11 01:39 AM |
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for the 250k people who are stretched |
DonCoquixote |
Sep-24-11 03:55 AM |
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But but but, I've been told repeatedly in this thread that 250k *is* rich, and that |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-25-11 06:26 PM |
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It is very comfortable and a family can thrive on it just fine. |
TheKentuckian |
Sep-25-11 07:35 PM |
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Then the President should say *tax* them more . Why doesn't he? Why does |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-25-11 10:14 PM |
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Wow! Wingnut talking points repeated here on DU |
Major Nikon |
Sep-25-11 11:52 PM |
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I guess you consider President Clinton a wingnut then. He has called for a stop to |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-26-11 07:12 AM |
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That also aligns you with the GOPhers |
Major Nikon |
Sep-26-11 08:45 AM |
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Bullshit. Clinton wasn't handed a bed of roses either, and he did a great job. I'd |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-26-11 10:09 AM |
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You're barking up the wrong tree |
Major Nikon |
Sep-26-11 06:20 PM |
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That's too bad. He was a better President than this one will ever be. I miss him. |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-26-11 06:54 PM |
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Maybe but don't count on it too much because I'd sunset the entire Bush/Obama cuts |
TheKentuckian |
Sep-26-11 07:34 PM |
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The sunset of the Bush/Obama cuts would cost the average family of four several thousand dollars a |
SlimJimmy |
Sep-26-11 08:27 PM |
#134 |
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