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Thu Sep-22-11 08:48 AM
Response to Reply #5 |
| 15. I think you missed this part (or the point) |
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"city officials called “a regular gathering of more than three people”."
Does that mean, as the CITY is saying, that meeting with more than 3 people on a regular basis is wrong and you can be fined for it?
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| -Couple Threatened With $500-Per-Meeting Fines For Home Bible Study |
The Straight Story |
Sep-22-11 08:33 AM |
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Isn't Freedom of Assembly |
CanonRay |
Sep-22-11 08:35 AM |
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As usual, there's a bit more to the story. |
trotsky |
Sep-22-11 08:47 AM |
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perhaps the city should go after them on the parking issue |
KurtNYC |
Sep-22-11 08:58 AM |
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They probably used whatever ordinance was handy. |
trotsky |
Sep-22-11 09:12 AM |
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Do you believe in zoning ordinances? |
Bandit |
Sep-22-11 09:52 AM |
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That would imo be the best approach. |
LiberalFighter |
Sep-22-11 11:45 AM |
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That's BS...if they're parking illegally, ticket/tow them. If not, the city can cram it. |
MrCoffee |
Sep-22-11 09:21 AM |
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So you would be okay with that right next to your home? |
Javaman |
Sep-22-11 11:49 AM |
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What would the city do if a couple had a regular week-end |
hedgehog |
Sep-22-11 08:36 AM |
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They are protecting people, if 3 or more meet, and one smokes, it could harm them |
The Straight Story |
Sep-22-11 08:39 AM |
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You know, TSS, |
Chan790 |
Sep-22-11 08:53 AM |
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I suspect that would violate the same ordinance. |
slackmaster |
Sep-22-11 08:41 AM |
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Self delete |
Ineeda |
Sep-22-11 08:45 AM |
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Hopefully the same thing? That much traffic is a pain in the arse... |
TheMadMonk |
Sep-22-11 10:26 AM |
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If it's happening twice a week, |
SheilaT |
Sep-22-11 12:50 PM |
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Sounds like Orange County |
HelenWheels |
Sep-22-11 08:37 AM |
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Misleading headline is misleading |
slackmaster |
Sep-22-11 08:41 AM |
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I kind of figured there was more to it than met the eye.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-22-11 08:44 AM |
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Good clarification, Slack. |
Dogtown |
Sep-22-11 08:46 AM |
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When I was a kid, there was a pseudo-Indian guru dude across the street who had sessions... |
slackmaster |
Sep-22-11 08:50 AM |
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I think you missed this part (or the point) |
The Straight Story |
Sep-22-11 08:48 AM |
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Yes, that is exactly what the ordinance says. Code compliance in SJC is reactive only... |
slackmaster |
Sep-22-11 08:56 AM |
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That is what it means...but it's generally-unenforced boilerplate. |
Chan790 |
Sep-22-11 08:58 AM |
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Indeed. If we're talking about 50+ people groups, the couple does have options. |
backscatter712 |
Sep-22-11 09:26 AM |
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Makes sense, thanks for clearing that up..nt |
and-justice-for-all |
Sep-22-11 10:22 AM |
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If they want to have bible studies in the privacy of their own home |
hobbit709 |
Sep-22-11 08:42 AM |
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So, you'd be OK with 50 people showing up in cars in your neighborhood every Sunday morning |
slackmaster |
Sep-22-11 08:44 AM |
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I see that around here every weekend. |
hobbit709 |
Sep-22-11 08:47 AM |
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Name removed |
Sep-22-11 08:54 AM |
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Posting people's addresses isn't cool, for one thing. |
Union Scribe |
Sep-22-11 08:59 AM |
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It's public record data. Anyone can look it up online for free, and I don't believe... |
slackmaster |
Sep-22-11 09:00 AM |
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You looked up and posted a private party's address |
Union Scribe |
Sep-22-11 09:03 AM |
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If you posted MY address you would be in violation of the forum rules |
slackmaster |
Sep-22-11 09:04 AM |
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How is this different? Only DU members should have privacy rights? |
Union Scribe |
Sep-22-11 09:07 AM |
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Read the forum rules. |
slackmaster |
Sep-22-11 09:07 AM |
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Again, this isn't about rules. It's about you violating someone's privacy. |
Union Scribe |
Sep-22-11 09:12 AM |
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Please quit whining and hit the Alert button if you think I've done anything wrong |
slackmaster |
Sep-22-11 09:15 AM |
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Oh, and apparently the mods disagree with you. nt |
Union Scribe |
Sep-22-11 09:12 AM |
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So be it. |
slackmaster |
Sep-22-11 09:15 AM |
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"it doesn't bother me as long as I can get out of my driveway" |
trotsky |
Sep-22-11 08:55 AM |
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Personally, most self-described "Christians" should be persecuted. |
hobbit709 |
Sep-22-11 08:59 AM |
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...and we arrive at the root of the issue. |
Union Scribe |
Sep-22-11 09:00 AM |
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The Fromms are getting all kinds of support from two quite different classes of people... |
slackmaster |
Sep-22-11 09:02 AM |
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Their opposition is only coming from one, though. |
Union Scribe |
Sep-22-11 09:05 AM |
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If they were holding weekly gun sales every Sunday morning and 50 people showed up every week... |
slackmaster |
Sep-22-11 09:07 AM |
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Just remember that from now on. |
Union Scribe |
Sep-22-11 09:10 AM |
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I do now and have always supported complying with laws |
slackmaster |
Sep-22-11 09:12 AM |
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Nah, I'd still support fining them. |
Chan790 |
Sep-22-11 09:17 AM |
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People like you are why I would never own property |
MicaelS |
Sep-22-11 09:55 AM |
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and you're the sort of neighbor we don't want. n/t |
Chan790 |
Sep-22-11 09:59 AM |
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Great then we both win.. |
MicaelS |
Sep-22-11 10:05 AM |
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We have renters a few houses down that run a gym out of their garage. |
blueamy66 |
Sep-22-11 09:35 AM |
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Happens with yard sales here most weekends in the summer (nt) |
The Straight Story |
Sep-22-11 08:49 AM |
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If it doesn't violate zoning and it doesn't bother you, then it's not a problem for anyone |
slackmaster |
Sep-22-11 08:57 AM |
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In a city near me, more than four yard sales at the same address in a year constitutes a business |
Gormy Cuss |
Sep-22-11 09:12 AM |
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It's that way in a lot of places. However, enforcement of that kind of code is often spotty, |
slackmaster |
Sep-22-11 09:14 AM |
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Compliance is usually based on complaints, like many quality of life ordinances. |
Gormy Cuss |
Sep-22-11 09:18 AM |
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Yes. I suspect neighbors have tolerated the Fromms' activities for many years. |
slackmaster |
Sep-22-11 09:19 AM |
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There is a church 1 block away from our apartment. |
HappyMe |
Sep-22-11 08:55 AM |
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I presume you knew about the church when you rented the apartment |
slackmaster |
Sep-22-11 08:58 AM |
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The Fromm's neighbors just sound |
HappyMe |
Sep-22-11 09:09 AM |
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If someone on my street started having 50 people show up every Sunday morning in cars... |
slackmaster |
Sep-22-11 09:12 AM |
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"What you do in the privacy of your home is nobody's business." |
_ed_ |
Sep-22-11 09:18 AM |
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The activities inside the home are not the issue. |
pennylane100 |
Sep-22-11 11:44 AM |
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This is zoning |
_ed_ |
Sep-22-11 09:13 AM |
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The religion argument would hold that an unpermitted 12-unit apartment would be OK |
slackmaster |
Sep-22-11 09:16 AM |
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If you had poker games with 50 people there would probably be complaints... |
rfranklin |
Sep-22-11 09:47 AM |
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The authorities favor idolizing an unread book. Actually studying it is discouraged. |
Boojatta |
Sep-22-11 08:43 AM |
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Oh! Those poor, oppressed christains! |
Lance_Boyle |
Sep-22-11 08:48 AM |
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Again - city officials talk about "regular meeting with more than *3* people" |
The Straight Story |
Sep-22-11 08:50 AM |
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Dr. Boyle's opinion isn't the issue here |
slackmaster |
Sep-22-11 09:00 AM |
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Lol. |
Union Scribe |
Sep-22-11 08:51 AM |
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Precisely. Owners of the Cherry Pit in Dallas felt pretty oppressed too |
LanternWaste |
Sep-22-11 12:30 PM |
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Cars parked along suburban streets! |
HereSince1628 |
Sep-22-11 08:53 AM |
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Sounds like a simple case of one neighbor not happy with streets clogged every week |
Thor_MN |
Sep-22-11 08:53 AM |
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Does the story say how many cars there are? |
Union Scribe |
Sep-22-11 08:56 AM |
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One couldn't fit 50 cars on my block. |
Thor_MN |
Sep-22-11 06:42 PM |
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Suburbanites have a territorial sensitivity to the curb parking in front of their home |
HereSince1628 |
Sep-22-11 09:16 AM |
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Isn't that the truth. LOL! |
petronius |
Sep-22-11 11:04 AM |
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Apparently they have quite a few people attending these "bible studies" and that's why |
Gormy Cuss |
Sep-22-11 09:01 AM |
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as a rabid fundy christian type |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Sep-22-11 09:14 AM |
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So, what's the issue? They're violating a City Ordinance and Someone Complained About It |
NeedleCast |
Sep-22-11 09:16 AM |
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"“a regular gathering of more than three people”" CRAP, there goes D&D Night. |
eShirl |
Sep-22-11 10:02 AM |
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It won't be a problem if people park a couple of blocks away and sneak in |
slackmaster |
Sep-22-11 10:12 AM |
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If I had to deal with 50 people and their cars in my neighbourhood... |
BiggJawn |
Sep-22-11 10:18 AM |
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As long as |
Coyote_Bandit |
Sep-22-11 10:24 AM |
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A regular meeting of more than 3 people? |
Skidmore |
Sep-22-11 10:25 AM |
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This is ridiculous. A bridge club could be fined under those conditions. nt |
jwirr |
Sep-22-11 10:34 AM |
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yeah, a bridge group could be fined |
newspeak |
Sep-22-11 12:00 PM |
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...but only if someone complained about it and got the city involved. |
slackmaster |
Sep-23-11 07:47 AM |
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There is more to this story: |
Taverner |
Sep-22-11 12:02 PM |
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I had assumed that this is a parking space issue. Our community |
jwirr |
Sep-22-11 12:14 PM |
#87 |
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The entire San Juan Capistrano elected city government is Republican |
mn9driver |
Sep-22-11 12:32 PM |
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I lived across the street from The Theosophist's Society |
Generic Other |
Sep-22-11 07:51 PM |
#92 |
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