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Thu Sep-22-11 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #78 |
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Actually, everything we do alters our brains, which are very 'plastic' in the sense that they adapt, respond to what we eat, drink, or imbibe.
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| -Legalize drugs. Yeah, you heard me, ALL OF THEM |
Taverner |
Sep-21-11 02:41 PM |
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I would love to see the advertising campaigns for drugs. |
FarLeftFist |
Sep-21-11 02:44 PM |
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The actor playing the meth user will be alert, good-looking |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Sep-21-11 04:20 PM |
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Or it would be a 'before' and 'after' woman |
Taverner |
Sep-21-11 05:36 PM |
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Or smiling, happy kids. |
Occulus |
Sep-22-11 10:43 AM |
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They won't show the real speeds freaks. |
lark |
Sep-22-11 01:02 PM |
#121 |
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How much of that damage is due to meth |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Sep-22-11 06:00 PM |
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Advertising for legal recreational drugs should be handled like advertising for |
kestrel91316 |
Sep-22-11 11:28 AM |
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I think the solution is to tax them |
liberal N proud |
Sep-21-11 02:44 PM |
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I totally agree and... |
Hepburn |
Sep-21-11 02:44 PM |
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I agree completely. |
hifiguy |
Sep-21-11 02:44 PM |
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k/r |
mdmc |
Sep-21-11 02:44 PM |
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It's not what they do to people that keeps them illegal, it's what people do to others while on them |
FarLeftFist |
Sep-21-11 02:47 PM |
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One could make the same argument for religion... |
Taverner |
Sep-21-11 02:49 PM |
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I will help you make that argument for religion, but drugs definitely DO make you do things. |
FarLeftFist |
Sep-21-11 02:55 PM |
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What do "drugs" "make" you do? |
RadiationTherapy |
Sep-21-11 02:58 PM |
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Drugs don't make anyone do anything |
Taverner |
Sep-21-11 02:58 PM |
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Tell it to this guy: |
FarLeftFist |
Sep-21-11 03:07 PM |
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"He claims to this day that he has no recollection of committing the crime" |
Taverner |
Sep-21-11 03:09 PM |
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Besides the cannibalism, the drugs made him stand naked and bloody screaming at the sky |
FarLeftFist |
Sep-21-11 03:14 PM |
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That's not the norm and you know it |
Taverner |
Sep-21-11 03:15 PM |
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And the Devil sure as hell |
Abq_Sarah |
Sep-22-11 03:48 PM |
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why didnt pcp make me kill anyone then? |
reggie the dog |
Sep-21-11 03:17 PM |
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Don't know. But he admits to having used it for about a decade. |
FarLeftFist |
Sep-21-11 03:18 PM |
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Or maybe - just maybe - he was mentally ill |
Taverner |
Sep-21-11 03:20 PM |
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Maybe the decades of drug abuse made his normal brain mentally ill. |
FarLeftFist |
Sep-21-11 03:22 PM |
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maybe i am just not a murderer |
reggie the dog |
Sep-21-11 03:30 PM |
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Maybe MOST people aren't depraved sinners, waiting to kill, rape or steal |
Taverner |
Sep-21-11 05:36 PM |
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Probably because you had people around you, with more sense, who worked hard |
FedUpWithIt All |
Sep-22-11 01:10 PM |
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The cost of illegal drugs makes the addict do things. |
Enthusiast |
Sep-22-11 06:22 AM |
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Drugs make people rape others? |
lark |
Sep-22-11 01:11 PM |
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Just like alcohol is merely an excuse for poor driving... |
LanternWaste |
Sep-21-11 03:09 PM |
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Apples and oranges |
Taverner |
Sep-21-11 03:11 PM |
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Precisely. Alcohol never makes us do anything we wouldn't otherwise do. |
LanternWaste |
Sep-21-11 03:15 PM |
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alcohol disinhibits and leads to poor decision making, it is the nature of the drug alcohol |
reggie the dog |
Sep-21-11 03:26 PM |
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Enticing.... |
amyrose2712 |
Sep-22-11 02:36 PM |
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There's plenty of evidence that meth alters the brain itself |
jmowreader |
Sep-21-11 07:10 PM |
#78 |
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as does prolongued alcohol use |
reggie the dog |
Sep-22-11 03:54 AM |
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Yes it does. |
quakerboy |
Sep-22-11 02:54 PM |
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We're talking about meth, right? |
jmowreader |
Sep-23-11 04:36 PM |
#157 |
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As does nicotine |
duhneece |
Sep-22-11 01:03 PM |
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The Montana Meth Project/Diane Sawyer last night: |
BrendaBrick |
Sep-22-11 01:35 PM |
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Were you raised by addicts? |
FedUpWithIt All |
Sep-22-11 12:26 PM |
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Huh? |
EC |
Sep-21-11 03:06 PM |
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And most of those "crazy guy on drugs kills a family" stories are urban myths |
Taverner |
Sep-21-11 03:08 PM |
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Does anyone still do PCP? |
EC |
Sep-21-11 03:12 PM |
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i have done pcp several times |
reggie the dog |
Sep-21-11 03:15 PM |
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I remember once back in the 70's |
EC |
Sep-21-11 03:23 PM |
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Back in the 80s, before X and Ketamine, PCP was big |
Taverner |
Sep-21-11 03:16 PM |
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That goes without saying... |
jmowreader |
Sep-21-11 07:12 PM |
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PCP is a crude animal tranquilizer |
Taverner |
Sep-21-11 07:16 PM |
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It was. |
Occulus |
Sep-22-11 09:41 AM |
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Been there done that, remember Refer Madness ? |
amyrose2712 |
Sep-22-11 02:39 PM |
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No one has ever caused violence while ON drugs?! Thats news to me. |
FarLeftFist |
Sep-21-11 03:08 PM |
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Where did I say that? ... n/t |
EC |
Sep-21-11 03:13 PM |
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You stated the violence only comes from trying to obtain the drugs. |
FarLeftFist |
Sep-21-11 03:15 PM |
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Not the same. |
EC |
Sep-21-11 03:20 PM |
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That's absurd. |
Webster Green |
Sep-21-11 03:07 PM |
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False. Meth can keep you awake for weeks at a time causing delusional psychosis. |
FarLeftFist |
Sep-21-11 03:10 PM |
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"And heroin funds terrorism" Wrong. The Black Market for Heroin funds terrorism. |
Taverner |
Sep-21-11 03:14 PM |
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But how could we educate our kids about the REAL dangers of these drugs if they're legal? |
FarLeftFist |
Sep-21-11 03:21 PM |
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We educate our children about alcohol and tobacco pretty well |
Taverner |
Sep-21-11 03:23 PM |
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california to france is day to night |
reggie the dog |
Sep-21-11 03:36 PM |
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Your "facts" are not true |
quakerboy |
Sep-22-11 03:46 PM |
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i know at least 2 functional heroin addicts |
reggie the dog |
Sep-21-11 03:34 PM |
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There are plenty of them. |
Webster Green |
Sep-21-11 05:03 PM |
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For this very reason, I think we need to rethink the idea of intoxication |
loyalsister |
Sep-21-11 07:55 PM |
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It's not society's job to educate your children |
_ed_ |
Sep-22-11 09:10 AM |
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The same way we teach them about the REAL dangers of alcohol. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Sep-22-11 12:51 PM |
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More harm is done by keeping the substances illegal. |
Webster Green |
Sep-21-11 03:16 PM |
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That's rather exaggerated |
lark |
Sep-22-11 01:23 PM |
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"heroin funds terrorism" |
naaman fletcher |
Sep-22-11 02:30 PM |
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No one is saying make those things legal. |
Atypical Liberal |
Sep-21-11 03:13 PM |
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Yep. What you said. |
Taverner |
Sep-21-11 03:14 PM |
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people rape, drugs do not make you rape |
reggie the dog |
Sep-21-11 03:13 PM |
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And, if legalized, Big Pharma would step in and make a killing |
Taverner |
Sep-21-11 03:17 PM |
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do like in switzerland and the netherlands |
reggie the dog |
Sep-21-11 03:28 PM |
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On that basis, alcohol should be illegal, too n/t |
markpkessinger |
Sep-21-11 03:32 PM |
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violence, rape, abuse, armed robbery are all illegal. So what's your point? |
Sirveri |
Sep-22-11 06:05 AM |
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Decimation of families? Armed robbery? |
Enthusiast |
Sep-22-11 06:19 AM |
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Illegal heroine funds terrorism just fine? |
Threedifferentones |
Sep-22-11 06:39 AM |
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Yup. I think we should work on WHY as a society we are turning to addictive substances. |
LiberalLoner |
Sep-22-11 12:46 PM |
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"I think we should work on WHY as a society we are turning to addictive substances...EXACTLY!!!!!nt |
BrendaBrick |
Sep-22-11 01:27 PM |
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We have from the dawn of time |
nadinbrzezinski |
Sep-22-11 02:40 PM |
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With that line of reasoning, alcohol should be illegal. |
LuckyLib |
Sep-22-11 12:48 PM |
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You mean like alcohol |
BadDog40 |
Sep-22-11 01:57 PM |
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Hmm should I point to the other LEGAL drug |
nadinbrzezinski |
Sep-22-11 02:39 PM |
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I agree. |
PDJane |
Sep-21-11 02:50 PM |
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And have an OTC market for folks who want to quit |
Taverner |
Sep-21-11 02:51 PM |
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Agreed. |
BrendaBrick |
Sep-22-11 01:58 PM |
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I support that, but I disagree that it's a panacea |
RZM |
Sep-21-11 02:57 PM |
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Not a panacea, but simple harm reduction |
Taverner |
Sep-21-11 02:59 PM |
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Like I said, I'm fine with it |
RZM |
Sep-21-11 03:05 PM |
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Well, yeah... |
Taverner |
Sep-21-11 03:06 PM |
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We probably do. But I'd go with a different choice of words to describe it n/t |
RZM |
Sep-21-11 03:08 PM |
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How about "Great Leap Forward?" |
Taverner |
Sep-21-11 03:12 PM |
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Or 'Stimulants Package?' |
RZM |
Sep-21-11 03:18 PM |
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a 100 dollar a day habit will likely go down to 5 to 10 dollars a day |
reggie the dog |
Sep-21-11 03:42 PM |
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Kicking Darwin into high gear... I love it. |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Sep-21-11 03:03 PM |
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People who can't control themselves while high usually can't control themselves when sober |
Taverner |
Sep-21-11 03:05 PM |
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I believe it was said best by the nut Ron Paul |
EC |
Sep-21-11 03:03 PM |
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People would bother with the others... |
jmowreader |
Sep-23-11 05:00 PM |
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Why not? It worked for Portugal. |
LadyHawkAZ |
Sep-21-11 03:05 PM |
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+1nt |
amyrose2712 |
Sep-22-11 02:45 PM |
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Portugal decriminalized, they did not legalize. There is a huge difference. n/t |
FedUpWithIt All |
Sep-22-11 03:49 PM |
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Legalize pot first, and see what happens. |
Nye Bevan |
Sep-21-11 03:08 PM |
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Only if it's ALL FREE |
sixmile |
Sep-21-11 03:17 PM |
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I'm good with that n/t |
Silent3 |
Sep-21-11 03:25 PM |
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Recced for good points |
War Horse |
Sep-21-11 03:30 PM |
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Agree --- and do it now -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-21-11 03:38 PM |
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Completely agree. |
FiveGoodMen |
Sep-21-11 03:42 PM |
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the cartels will never allow it |
0rganism |
Sep-21-11 03:51 PM |
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No, the CIA will never allow that |
Taverner |
Sep-21-11 05:51 PM |
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Lame. |
theaocp |
Sep-21-11 06:18 PM |
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agreed! eom. |
wildbilln864 |
Sep-21-11 06:28 PM |
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I've always believed that. |
bigwillq |
Sep-21-11 06:30 PM |
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Give me $20 and 20 minutes |
Nevernose |
Sep-21-11 06:34 PM |
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I've been saying it for years. |
OwnedByFerrets |
Sep-21-11 06:36 PM |
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I think Ron Paul... |
CloakedClock |
Sep-21-11 07:18 PM |
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Makes a fuckload more sense than what we're doing now |
Warren DeMontague |
Sep-21-11 07:26 PM |
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I've been saying that for years |
dddem |
Sep-22-11 06:13 AM |
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We would be money ahead if we bought |
Enthusiast |
Sep-22-11 06:15 AM |
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Meth is some scary shit and heroin kills. But other than that...legalize. |
ellisonz |
Sep-22-11 06:37 AM |
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If all drugs were legal except Meth and Heroin ... |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Sep-22-11 10:49 AM |
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Either that or people could switch to... |
ellisonz |
Sep-22-11 07:18 PM |
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Ever done heroin? n/t |
A HERETIC I AM |
Sep-23-11 05:21 PM |
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100% agreement, Taverner n/t |
Dogtown |
Sep-22-11 08:09 AM |
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It worked for Portugal... |
Modern_Matthew |
Sep-22-11 08:14 AM |
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Portugal |
ProSense |
Sep-22-11 08:24 AM |
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If they had that much success with decriminalization, then... |
Modern_Matthew |
Sep-22-11 09:46 AM |
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This is a very important distinction that many don't seem able to grasp. |
FedUpWithIt All |
Sep-22-11 12:53 PM |
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This is one nation , under god |
Jim_Shorts |
Sep-22-11 12:30 PM |
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LEAP agrees with you |
duhneece |
Sep-22-11 09:06 AM |
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The war on drugs is a joke...nt |
and-justice-for-all |
Sep-22-11 10:23 AM |
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Music would get so much better! |
JVS |
Sep-22-11 10:27 AM |
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You're right. ALL of them. |
AllyCat |
Sep-22-11 11:01 AM |
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i'm with you. put the cartels out of business instantly. |
spanone |
Sep-22-11 11:03 AM |
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I would go for this if they cut out the need for prescriptions to get any drugs... |
JCMach1 |
Sep-22-11 11:04 AM |
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This needs to be done so everyone can have legal access to psychedelics... |
drokhole |
Sep-22-11 11:22 AM |
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I agree. |
Vidar |
Sep-22-11 11:39 AM |
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THANK YOU for this thread! |
Plucketeer |
Sep-22-11 11:54 AM |
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Have you ever dealt with someone out of the fuckin mind on Meth or PCP |
Supply Side Jesus |
Sep-22-11 11:56 AM |
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Yes, I have. |
Moosepoop |
Sep-22-11 12:19 PM |
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I have also dealt extensively with both |
FedUpWithIt All |
Sep-22-11 12:50 PM |
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Who said anything about DTs? |
Moosepoop |
Sep-22-11 01:39 PM |
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Some alcoholics experience withdrawl symptoms from even short term abstinance |
FedUpWithIt All |
Sep-22-11 01:53 PM |
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i hate dealing with drunks! |
Supply Side Jesus |
Sep-22-11 02:21 PM |
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I have grown up with addicts and i usually avoid threads like this because they cause me real stress |
FedUpWithIt All |
Sep-22-11 12:38 PM |
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So true, and thank you for saying it |
peace frog |
Sep-22-11 01:02 PM |
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Alas two cases of legalization point to the thesis |
nadinbrzezinski |
Sep-22-11 03:09 PM |
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Portugal did not legalize drug use. It is still illegal |
FedUpWithIt All |
Sep-22-11 03:30 PM |
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Yeah and while we discuss this |
nadinbrzezinski |
Sep-22-11 03:48 PM |
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Just as they would under a legalization. It's what happens when people inject themselves |
FedUpWithIt All |
Sep-22-11 03:57 PM |
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Perhaps I have a slightly different view of drugs |
nadinbrzezinski |
Sep-22-11 04:19 PM |
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Marijuana has never killed anybody. |
ellisonz |
Sep-22-11 07:21 PM |
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If our culture were |
femrap |
Sep-22-11 01:07 PM |
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Drugs are not for everyone, but everyone that wants drugs should have access to them |
liberation |
Sep-22-11 01:51 PM |
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I want to reiterate what Liberal Loner posted... |
BrendaBrick |
Sep-22-11 02:09 PM |
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not going to happen |
rollin74 |
Sep-22-11 02:17 PM |
#135 |
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It would solve a lot of bullshit that is for sure. |
sarcasmo |
Sep-22-11 02:36 PM |
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Let's let your kids get access to meth and see how you like that. |
Dreamer Tatum |
Sep-22-11 06:02 PM |
#154 |
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I am not a big fan of recreational drug use .... |
etherealtruth |
Sep-23-11 05:03 PM |
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best thread ever |
Dokkie |
Sep-23-11 05:22 PM |
#161 |
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.. |
mdmc |
Sep-28-11 07:27 AM |
#162 |
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