| -George W. Bush, plain fuckin stole the 2000 election. |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-20-11 03:45 AM |
#0 |
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Syrinx |
Sep-20-11 04:06 AM |
#1 |
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Excellent read, God Bless Rolling Stone! |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-20-11 04:25 AM |
#4 |
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JUNTA DAY 2000.12.12 |
L. Coyote |
Sep-20-11 11:52 AM |
#65 |
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Could you please explain to me... |
emcguffie |
Sep-20-11 02:52 PM |
#96 |
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SCOTUS named the monkey POTUS on 12/12/2000 |
WhiteTara |
Sep-20-11 04:12 PM |
#102 |
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Dec. 12, 2000 was the date of the Supreme's action ending vote counting in Florida. |
L. Coyote |
Sep-20-11 08:36 PM |
#122 |
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Yes, GREAT read. Made me re-up my ACLU membership. |
nilram |
Sep-20-11 08:58 PM |
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Thks for posting. nt |
snagglepuss |
Sep-20-11 12:20 PM |
#68 |
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NO NO NO!!! Al Gore lost that election all by himself. |
UnrepentantLiberal |
Sep-20-11 01:03 PM |
#77 |
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Actually, I think quite a few people believe he did win. |
emcguffie |
Sep-20-11 02:58 PM |
#97 |
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Democrats need a five point lead in the polls |
The Wizard |
Sep-20-11 04:23 PM |
#103 |
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So keep gnawing on that conspiracy theory bone. Losing feels good |
UnrepentantLiberal |
Sep-20-11 04:57 PM |
#105 |
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Nice you have so much faith in Republican-owned proprietary voting software. nt |
valerief |
Sep-20-11 05:07 PM |
#107 |
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There's just the question: who owns the proprietary voting machines? |
valerief |
Sep-20-11 05:06 PM |
#106 |
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Watch this... |
YvonneCa |
Sep-20-11 05:38 PM |
#111 |
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That's why polls showing Obama beating Romney or Perry by only a few points scare me. |
totodeinhere |
Sep-21-11 11:51 AM |
#166 |
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Gore won the election. No one held a gun to his head and forced |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-21-11 12:51 AM |
#142 |
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This was the first major move on Fox News's part. |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-21-11 01:33 AM |
#151 |
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Oh, it was a bloodless coup for sure. Gore should have accused |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-21-11 01:38 AM |
#153 |
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The Republicans held all the cards and they held a gun against the American Peoples' head. |
Uncle Joe |
Sep-21-11 12:16 PM |
#167 |
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Academic now, but given that the U.S. embraced an official policy |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-21-11 03:44 PM |
#170 |
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Consider what happened during the last one, 600,000+ Americans died on both sides using |
Uncle Joe |
Sep-21-11 04:16 PM |
#171 |
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I say it's academic, but your post seems to indicate that the |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-21-11 04:31 PM |
#172 |
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Al Gore wasn't faced with that decision in 2000, he was faced with the potential for U.S. Civil War. |
Uncle Joe |
Sep-21-11 04:46 PM |
#174 |
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Yeah, I see your point I think. I'm not advocating for a 2nd civil war, mind you, |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-22-11 01:23 AM |
#179 |
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There are too many variables to answer your question. |
Uncle Joe |
Sep-22-11 10:46 AM |
#181 |
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Sort of like van Papen believed that, once Hindenburg appointed |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-23-11 02:10 AM |
#184 |
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Yes but to a much lesser extent, if we're talking about the individual, Bush; unlike Hitler isn't in |
Uncle Joe |
Sep-23-11 09:56 AM |
#186 |
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You just think Bush isn't in power |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-23-11 10:19 AM |
#188 |
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There are other major differences in your analogy of course, I was in a rush |
Uncle Joe |
Sep-23-11 11:20 AM |
#192 |
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I concur with all you've written. I think the strongest difference is |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-23-11 02:01 PM |
#193 |
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Thanks, coalition_unwilling. |
Uncle Joe |
Sep-23-11 02:05 PM |
#194 |
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No, no, no, no.... |
Fumesucker |
Sep-20-11 04:14 AM |
#2 |
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LMAO. Good ole Nadir. |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-20-11 04:26 AM |
#5 |
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It's easier and more familiar to be mad at one annoying guy |
EFerrari |
Sep-20-11 04:46 AM |
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Nader doesn't get a pass. He did absolutely nothing to help defeat Bush: |
elocs |
Sep-20-11 06:53 AM |
#35 |
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I agree with you... |
Fumesucker |
Sep-20-11 07:10 AM |
#37 |
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Best summary of Nader's role in the 2000 election EVER!!! |
saras |
Sep-20-11 01:21 PM |
#78 |
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Nader was full of crap about the Corvair |
Mopar151 |
Sep-20-11 02:49 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-20-11 10:15 AM |
#49 |
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Ralph Nader 2000 |
libinnyandia |
Sep-20-11 01:28 PM |
#79 |
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Welcome to DU! |
mattclearing |
Sep-20-11 04:02 PM |
#101 |
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Shhhh |
iamthebandfanman |
Sep-20-11 10:16 AM |
#50 |
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"54% of the 179,855 ballots "spoiled" were cast by African-American voters" |
mod mom |
Sep-20-11 11:19 AM |
#56 |
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Karma is a bitch. |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-21-11 02:13 AM |
#158 |
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Truth is, if if hadn't been for Nader........ |
AverageJoe90 |
Sep-20-11 02:19 PM |
#89 |
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Right -- Bush didn't need to stop the vote counting in Miami-Dade -- 120,000 votes never counted !! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-21-11 03:18 AM |
#163 |
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hahahaha... it was a clever talking point while it lasted |
fascisthunter |
Sep-20-11 05:41 PM |
#112 |
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Evidently the DINOs that voted for GWB want us all to believe it |
Rex |
Sep-20-11 08:49 PM |
#131 |
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Some people here still don't believe that Poppy Bush, Murdoch and Mr. Matalin rigged it in '88. NT |
Hart2008 |
Sep-20-11 04:16 AM |
#3 |
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Can we finally be done with the Bush family? |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-20-11 04:28 AM |
#6 |
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The Bush crime family is still on the loose, and Jeb could still run for president. |
Hart2008 |
Sep-20-11 04:34 AM |
#7 |
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We are fools if we don't put an immediate stop to Jeb's ambitions. |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-20-11 02:11 PM |
#85 |
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I'd bet, if the Republican party has another close election |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-20-11 02:14 PM |
#86 |
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Stop giving me nightmares...the thoughts of another Bush scares the s**t out of me. |
Auntie Bush |
Sep-20-11 02:25 PM |
#91 |
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Are you kidding? They're like termites. |
EFerrari |
Sep-20-11 04:47 AM |
#9 |
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Misanthropes for centuries or it seems ! |
orpupilofnature57 |
Sep-20-11 06:24 AM |
#20 |
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the Bushes have George P. and Jeb Jr. (35 & 28 years old) waiting in the wings |
stockholmer |
Sep-20-11 10:26 AM |
#51 |
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As long as the remembrance... |
A wise Man |
Sep-20-11 01:00 PM |
#75 |
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ROVER did it, with help from his 'friends,' he's STILL doing it, |
elleng |
Sep-20-11 08:47 AM |
#40 |
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Rove learned his trade from Lee Atwater in '88. Dole in '88 won every hand counted precinct in NH |
Hart2008 |
Sep-20-11 01:39 PM |
#81 |
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Right, Atwater, |
elleng |
Sep-20-11 02:45 PM |
#94 |
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Actually, Rove was one of Donald Segretti's dirty tricksters during |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-21-11 12:56 AM |
#143 |
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Hmm, that sounds interesting. |
emcguffie |
Sep-20-11 03:01 PM |
#98 |
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Mr. Mary Matalin indeed. The Matalins are like Guy Bannister's office in Garrison's book. |
Hart2008 |
Sep-20-11 03:54 PM |
#99 |
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Very interesting info, Hart. n/t |
Mimosa |
Sep-21-11 03:59 AM |
#164 |
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The links you provided had me going for a while there. |
emcguffie |
Sep-22-11 01:41 PM |
#183 |
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The Bush family has been criminal since the '20's!!! |
Initech |
Sep-20-11 06:59 PM |
#117 |
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Excellent post |
malaise |
Sep-20-11 05:02 AM |
#10 |
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Well..we had a Democratic majority in 2006 that promised to |
INdemo |
Sep-20-11 05:28 AM |
#11 |
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If it's a close election and Obama narrowly wins, of course he |
totodeinhere |
Sep-20-11 12:28 PM |
#70 |
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Good idea, but how in the world can it be done |
lark |
Sep-20-11 02:01 PM |
#83 |
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Nationalize all of the machines and administer them with an honest and fair |
totodeinhere |
Sep-20-11 02:15 PM |
#87 |
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We have a chance to take back the House and increase our |
INdemo |
Sep-20-11 02:42 PM |
#93 |
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In Florida they just hack the voting machines.... |
Sancho |
Sep-20-11 05:45 AM |
#12 |
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and in 80% of the country! Votes are tbaulated by one private company in 80% of the US. |
robinlynne |
Sep-20-11 11:38 AM |
#63 |
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Bull Crap! |
L. Coyote |
Sep-20-11 08:43 PM |
#126 |
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Morning in America |
NNN0LHI |
Sep-20-11 05:57 AM |
#13 |
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Yeah, those Reagan Democrats sure screwed the country good.. n/t |
Fumesucker |
Sep-20-11 05:59 AM |
#14 |
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I can remember standing in line at the unemployment office as that ad was on the TV there |
NNN0LHI |
Sep-20-11 06:06 AM |
#15 |
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I was an electrician working commercial construction at the time.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-20-11 06:17 AM |
#18 |
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This from your post: |
NNN0LHI |
Sep-20-11 06:25 AM |
#22 |
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You'll have to excuse their desperation, they only have $400,000 a year to live on.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-20-11 07:00 AM |
#36 |
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+1, n/t |
RKP5637 |
Sep-20-11 06:47 AM |
#31 |
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When free and fair elections no longer exist, we will live in tyranny. |
sunwyn |
Sep-20-11 06:13 AM |
#16 |
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Yep, I fear democracy has left America. Now we live in a contrived corrupt |
RKP5637 |
Sep-20-11 06:29 AM |
#24 |
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We have been living in tyranny since 2000. Didn't you notice Bush? |
L. Coyote |
Sep-20-11 08:45 PM |
#127 |
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As noted democrat (lower-case 'd') Joseph Stalin once said, "He who casts a vote |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-21-11 01:01 AM |
#145 |
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We are awfully close. |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-21-11 07:54 PM |
#175 |
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Beautiful! kr nt |
Enthusiast |
Sep-20-11 06:15 AM |
#17 |
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Nancy Pelosi should of had him hung to dry, for High Treason. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Sep-20-11 06:21 AM |
#19 |
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They should just be called, "The Terrorist Party." n/t |
RKP5637 |
Sep-20-11 06:25 AM |
#21 |
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+1 |
stuntcat |
Sep-20-11 09:06 AM |
#44 |
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It's a sickness, unfortunately it's not currently classified as such, but is |
RKP5637 |
Sep-20-11 09:59 AM |
#46 |
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The difference between Republicans and Democrats is obvious here |
lunatica |
Sep-20-11 06:26 AM |
#23 |
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Often too many democrats are too busy fighting with each other while the |
RKP5637 |
Sep-20-11 06:31 AM |
#25 |
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Thats why Democrats are more American ,oh boy ,because the process |
orpupilofnature57 |
Sep-20-11 06:39 AM |
#28 |
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After the steal, they'll say it was the tea party upset... |
mother earth |
Sep-20-11 06:33 AM |
#26 |
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Waiting for those who argue their is no proof of electronic |
RegieRocker |
Sep-20-11 06:36 AM |
#27 |
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Sorry, but you're wrong.. |
digitaln3rd |
Sep-20-11 06:40 AM |
#29 |
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Yep, I think you hit on the major key point, "show the American people that they're different |
RKP5637 |
Sep-20-11 06:45 AM |
#30 |
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RFK was the last Democrat. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Sep-20-11 06:48 AM |
#33 |
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Yep, he was!!! When JFK was murdered, the magic and democracy left the country. IMO it's |
RKP5637 |
Sep-20-11 06:52 AM |
#34 |
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And I can't see it changing anytime soon. |
digitaln3rd |
Sep-20-11 07:11 AM |
#38 |
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Oh come on. There have been plenty of good Democrats since RFK. |
totodeinhere |
Sep-20-11 12:19 PM |
#67 |
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Not to piss on the RFK parade, but RFK and JFK both cozied up |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-21-11 01:09 AM |
#147 |
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Interesting. Until you mentioned it, I had not thought of that, but now |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-21-11 01:07 AM |
#146 |
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Maybe that's what I am, Dem Socialist. I was just looking at the web site. n/t |
RKP5637 |
Sep-21-11 04:34 PM |
#173 |
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The discussion is about the biggest ,costly ,lethal farce ,so far in our History.. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Sep-20-11 06:47 AM |
#32 |
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Well then we completely disagree, but it should be noted that whats taking place now |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-20-11 05:45 PM |
#115 |
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By the way, if you are going to post on DU you should understand its founding. Here you go. |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-21-11 03:09 AM |
#161 |
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It's not easy to win an election |
Turbineguy |
Sep-20-11 07:16 AM |
#39 |
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You're absolutely right, repugs never fail to work their crap. |
elleng |
Sep-20-11 08:52 AM |
#41 |
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Nebraska is NOT changing its election laws |
Freddie Stubbs |
Sep-20-11 08:57 AM |
#42 |
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Yes, and it resulted in Barack Obama winning an electoral vote that he wouldn't have if |
totodeinhere |
Sep-20-11 12:23 PM |
#69 |
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And anything else he could get his fucking hands onto. |
lonestarnot |
Sep-20-11 09:00 AM |
#43 |
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AMEN!!! |
Odin2005 |
Sep-20-11 09:11 AM |
#45 |
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I can't believe anyone in this country would believe our elections are fair, honest or open. |
Aaria |
Sep-20-11 10:03 AM |
#47 |
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Yup. Of course he did and took out country into the toilet. It is an outrage |
tropicanarose |
Sep-20-11 10:07 AM |
#48 |
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K&R |
Blue Owl |
Sep-20-11 10:39 AM |
#52 |
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2000 and 2004 |
colsohlibgal |
Sep-20-11 10:42 AM |
#53 |
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yes indeed! and they'd like to do 2012 if they can get the right state to poll closely enough |
librechik |
Sep-20-11 11:33 AM |
#60 |
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Im more pissed at Kerry than Bush for 2004. |
Initech |
Sep-20-11 07:03 PM |
#118 |
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Kerry's ineptness in 2004 shall live in infamy down through the ages of political |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-21-11 01:15 AM |
#148 |
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I saw that interview too, that one REALLY pissed me off!! |
Initech |
Sep-21-11 01:47 AM |
#154 |
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I remember telling my wife at the time (after I finished shouting at the |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-21-11 01:51 AM |
#155 |
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Touche!!! K&R |
Carolina |
Sep-23-11 10:23 AM |
#189 |
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K&R |
pam4water |
Sep-20-11 11:03 AM |
#54 |
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Most likely, but when the lobbyists come knocking, the elections die. |
RedCloud |
Sep-20-11 11:13 AM |
#55 |
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all state efforts start at the local RW radio stations- they need to be picketed, sponsors boycotted |
certainot |
Sep-20-11 11:19 AM |
#57 |
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There's a scene in Alexandra Pelosi's documentary |
EmeraldCityGrl |
Sep-20-11 11:20 AM |
#58 |
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Tsk, tsk: |
blkmusclmachine |
Sep-20-11 11:30 AM |
#59 |
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Their bodies make as good a fertilizer as anyone else's. Happy? |
saras |
Sep-20-11 01:36 PM |
#80 |
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Shucks, your right. |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-21-11 01:53 AM |
#157 |
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unfortunately, the Democrats are helping. It is not just the Republicans. |
robinlynne |
Sep-20-11 11:37 AM |
#61 |
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privatizing the early voting system in FL??? Hello - earth to Justice Dept! |
Divine Discontent |
Sep-20-11 11:37 AM |
#62 |
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You bet. It reeks of corruption. Considering Governor Scotts previous behavior |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-20-11 02:16 PM |
#88 |
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things do not look good for election integrity next year... I am so angry, and I'm sure thousands of |
Divine Discontent |
Sep-21-11 12:57 AM |
#144 |
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By its' actions the Republican Party is an enemy of democracy. |
Uncle Joe |
Sep-20-11 11:51 AM |
#64 |
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Bingo ! |
vets74 |
Sep-20-11 11:55 AM |
#66 |
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rather, it was stolen for him. |
KG |
Sep-20-11 12:28 PM |
#71 |
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Unfortunately, the Republican Party is calling back: |
DFW |
Sep-20-11 12:51 PM |
#72 |
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That's why we have to hang up! |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-23-11 02:35 AM |
#185 |
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When you add vote hacking, redistricting, and voter suppression |
Jim_Shorts |
Sep-20-11 12:54 PM |
#73 |
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Telling it to DU'ers... |
A wise Man |
Sep-20-11 12:58 PM |
#74 |
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It does mean something... |
Uncle Joe |
Sep-20-11 01:49 PM |
#82 |
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Thanks Uncle Joe |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-20-11 05:29 PM |
#108 |
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OK, this is not a secret, this is commonly known WHY AREN'T the DEMS |
Guilded Lilly |
Sep-20-11 01:01 PM |
#76 |
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I am much more pissed about 2004 !!! Jeb rigged FL for SURE on that one too! nt |
Laura PourMeADrink |
Sep-20-11 02:04 PM |
#84 |
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nate silver wrote a good article of how |
SnakeEyes |
Sep-20-11 02:20 PM |
#90 |
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I wonder why these election tactics don't work every time. |
deaniac21 |
Sep-20-11 02:30 PM |
#92 |
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Because we fight, they lie, steal and cheat and we fight. |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-20-11 05:31 PM |
#109 |
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oh |
deaniac21 |
Sep-21-11 10:43 AM |
#165 |
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My very, very elderly mother is politically aware and still enjoys |
JDPriestly |
Sep-20-11 04:00 PM |
#100 |
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What's the big deal about having to show an ID to vote? |
Flatulo |
Sep-20-11 04:35 PM |
#104 |
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Are you a senior citizen? |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-20-11 05:38 PM |
#110 |
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well stated |
fascisthunter |
Sep-20-11 05:44 PM |
#114 |
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TOUCHE! |
Carolina |
Sep-23-11 10:34 AM |
#190 |
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Senior citizens and other SS recipients cannot collect SS benefits unless they can |
Flatulo |
Sep-20-11 08:35 PM |
#121 |
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Yes, but |
Carolina |
Sep-23-11 10:42 AM |
#191 |
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because it costs MONEY and therefore it is a Poll Tax |
fascisthunter |
Sep-20-11 05:43 PM |
#113 |
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It's insulting to the people who were orignally |
Flatulo |
Sep-20-11 08:30 PM |
#120 |
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Good luck with that, it is flat out a poll tax. |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-21-11 02:59 AM |
#159 |
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Pantload! |
Webster Green |
Sep-20-11 06:56 PM |
#116 |
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It changes the election outcome by 1-2 percent in favor of Republicans. |
L. Coyote |
Sep-20-11 08:39 PM |
#125 |
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I'd like to see the sources for that, if you don't mind. |
Flatulo |
Sep-20-11 09:35 PM |
#135 |
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Some people do not have photo IDs, and it cost them to obtain them. Barriers work! |
L. Coyote |
Sep-20-11 09:54 PM |
#136 |
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Thanks for the info. Live and learn. |
Flatulo |
Sep-21-11 12:42 AM |
#141 |
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If you have to have an ID to vote and, to obtain the ID, you have to |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-21-11 01:22 AM |
#149 |
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I live in NJ. |
emcguffie |
Sep-22-11 01:37 PM |
#182 |
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unconstitional |
Ricochet21 |
Sep-20-11 08:25 PM |
#119 |
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Cheating is the only way the Fascists can win |
vanboggie |
Sep-20-11 08:36 PM |
#123 |
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Cheating is not the ONLY way the Fascists can win. In 1933, they 'won' |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-21-11 01:25 AM |
#150 |
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True, and I consider that cheating n/t |
vanboggie |
Sep-21-11 01:52 AM |
#156 |
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Yawn!!!! nt |
bluestate10 |
Sep-20-11 08:37 PM |
#124 |
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Lets also call Governor Scott Walker out here as well |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-20-11 08:45 PM |
#128 |
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How Kerry Votes Were Switched To Bush Votes |
L. Coyote |
Sep-20-11 08:47 PM |
#129 |
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... |
YvonneCa |
Sep-20-11 11:25 PM |
#139 |
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I pray that we make sure this never happens again. |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-21-11 01:38 AM |
#152 |
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So should the DINOs that voted for him in 2000! |
Rex |
Sep-20-11 08:47 PM |
#130 |
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George Bush stole the 2000 election and the Democrats sat back |
dflprincess |
Sep-20-11 09:09 PM |
#133 |
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Excellent point that is highlighted perfectly in Capitalism: A love story. |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-20-11 09:35 PM |
#134 |
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and they are in better |
DonCoquixote |
Sep-20-11 10:00 PM |
#137 |
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They are going to have a very difficult time. |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-21-11 02:01 PM |
#169 |
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K & R |
orbitalman |
Sep-20-11 10:59 PM |
#138 |
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We really need to bring the voting system up to date. |
Major Hogwash |
Sep-20-11 11:34 PM |
#140 |
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For those of you denying this thread and calling it conspiracy theory I give you this. |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-21-11 03:05 AM |
#160 |
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kr -- back tomorrow to read the article -- |
defendandprotect |
Sep-21-11 03:16 AM |
#162 |
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K&R |
tawadi |
Sep-21-11 12:25 PM |
#168 |
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and the theft of the popular vote in 2004 when 25 percent of the vote in Ohio |
Samantha |
Sep-22-11 12:41 AM |
#176 |
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It's amazing to me that they do it out in the open. |
Firebrand Gary |
Sep-22-11 01:01 AM |
#177 |
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They have no shame |
Samantha |
Sep-22-11 09:07 AM |
#180 |
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And the economy still suffers today. From that one event. |
Zax2me |
Sep-22-11 01:07 AM |
#178 |
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And the Wimpocrats have allowed this |
Carolina |
Sep-23-11 10:08 AM |
#187 |
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The dumbass GOPers went for it....got what they wished for...and wow |
opihimoimoi |
Sep-23-11 02:10 PM |
#195 |