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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 08:12 PM
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1. The NATO-backed rebels are essentially committing genocide against blacks in Libya
Not that NATO needed any more shame, but there it is. NATO is essentially backing ethnic cleansing. Of course Libya has loads of oil under its soil, so there's that.
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  -BLOODY RACISM is the hallmark of new Libya as their forces relentlessly obliterate all opposition Distant Observer  Sep-16-11 08:07 PM   #0 
  - The NATO-backed rebels are essentially committing genocide against blacks in Libya  Cali_Democrat   Sep-16-11 08:12 PM   #1 
  - A spokesperson in Britain for NATO was asked about it yesterday  sabrina 1   Sep-16-11 08:28 PM   #2 
     - Very true: NATO can only act if one of its members is attacked  PurityOfEssence   Sep-17-11 07:44 AM   #49 
  - Lalalalalalalalalalalala can't hear you lalalalalalalalalalalalala. nt  kelly1mm   Sep-16-11 08:37 PM   #3 
  - And if anyone doubts who's going to be in charge in Libya, there is this:  sabrina 1   Sep-16-11 08:41 PM   #4 
  - Excellent points, Sabrina. n/t  chill_wind   Sep-17-11 09:46 AM   #74 
  - Too much wild celebration going on. even here.  Zax2me   Sep-16-11 08:47 PM   #5 
  - What distrubs is the wild shooting-up of each city they seek to "liberate" from the mad clutches  Distant Observer   Sep-16-11 09:36 PM   #9 
     - According to some, this destruction is good. How can that make any sense?  sad sally   Sep-16-11 10:50 PM   #32 
  - The rebels liberated Libya! It's what the people wanted! It's all good.  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-16-11 08:51 PM   #6 
  - So who else isn't surprised by this? Did we really expect any less from NATO?  white_wolf   Sep-16-11 08:57 PM   #7 
  - Did Lenin write an essay on transfer of power under communism from one leader to the next?  Boojatta   Sep-16-11 09:42 PM   #10 
  - Lenin wrote a lot. For his views on government. I suggest the April Thesis.  white_wolf   Sep-16-11 10:01 PM   #16 
  - China has written some books on this.  Distant Observer   Sep-17-11 09:27 AM   #73 
  - Do you think the caricature in the OP is an accurate portrayal of the rebels?  joshcryer   Sep-16-11 10:37 PM   #28 
     - Hardly Islamaphobie. Though I do have NATOphobie.  white_wolf   Sep-16-11 10:56 PM   #33 
     - So you do not believe the caricature in the OP?  joshcryer   Sep-16-11 10:59 PM   #34 
     - So you're tarring this poster as a hater of Islam  PurityOfEssence   Sep-17-11 07:54 AM   #54 
        - No, it is a fact. Calling "bloody racism" the "hallmark" of the revolution...  joshcryer   Sep-17-11 08:02 AM   #56 
           - I don't know what that has to do with me as I never posted in that thread you linked.  white_wolf   Sep-17-11 12:39 PM   #85 
              - Don't worry. Some posters go after anyone that contradicts the propaganda line  Distant Observer   Sep-18-11 01:06 PM   #120 
  - k&r  Liberal_in_LA   Sep-16-11 08:58 PM   #8 
  - confused about this  riverwalker   Sep-16-11 09:45 PM   #11 
  - It's mostly made up nonsense and fearmongering.  joshcryer   Sep-16-11 09:54 PM   #14 
  - You have been denying facts since the killings and rapes in Benghazi in the beginning  Distant Observer   Sep-16-11 10:05 PM   #17 
  - That is patently false, I have not denied one report. I merely do not believe it is systematic.  joshcryer   Sep-16-11 10:16 PM   #21 
     - How many people do you know in the region? Do you know anything outside of western propaganda?  Distant Observer   Sep-16-11 10:32 PM   #27 
  - Tell that to the thousands dead and the 10's of thousands who are fleeing the rebel onslaught  Distant Observer   Sep-17-11 05:49 AM   #36 
     - If you're claiming "thousands of dead" you really need a link  pinboy3niner   Sep-17-11 05:54 AM   #37 
     - Link added, but who knows how many. My calls to friends suggests many deaths in every city that has  Distant Observer   Sep-17-11 06:15 AM   #38 
     - None of the mass graves have yet to have black African's. All of them appear to be anti-Gaddafi.  joshcryer   Sep-17-11 07:30 AM   #46 
        - This is a blatant falsehood. And you should know better.  Distant Observer   Sep-17-11 07:52 AM   #50 
           - Provide one credible source.  joshcryer   Sep-17-11 07:53 AM   #52 
              - "Credible?" By that do you mean Anti-Gaddafi source whose goal is to scrub any counter evidence?  Distant Observer   Sep-17-11 08:49 AM   #71 
  - The raping of black women and the rounding up of black people  EFerrari   Sep-16-11 10:09 PM   #19 
  - Every event known is in the Libyan Revolution thread, as far back as March.  joshcryer   Sep-16-11 10:18 PM   #23 
     - You meen events acknowledged even by Western media - most have not been reported  Distant Observer   Sep-16-11 10:27 PM   #24 
        - That is false, the events are reported. Most of your reports are as much as a...  joshcryer   Sep-16-11 10:30 PM   #26 
           - Do you ever ask why the few civilian deaths from Nato bombs are of rebels and their supporters  Distant Observer   Sep-16-11 10:40 PM   #29 
           - Can you have a discussion without making things personal? Because I don't have time for this.  joshcryer   Sep-16-11 10:44 PM   #30 
              - Might be time to save the Syrians, or the Bahraini, or the Congolese. The Libyans are now "FREE"  Distant Observer   Sep-16-11 10:48 PM   #31 
              - Have you never resorted to personal slurs to support your cause?  PurityOfEssence   Sep-17-11 07:40 AM   #48 
                 - Not usually.  joshcryer   Sep-17-11 07:52 AM   #51 
                    - hahahahahahahahahahhaha!  PurityOfEssence   Sep-17-11 08:09 AM   #60 
                       - I stick to facts, I cannot say the same for others.  joshcryer   Sep-17-11 08:13 AM   #62 
                          - When repeatedly shown the FACTS of the UN Participation Act, you repeatedly dodged and denied  PurityOfEssence   Sep-17-11 11:27 AM   #79 
           - Qaddafi was NOT a xenophopic racist; the rebels, on the other hand, seem to have a problem with this  PurityOfEssence   Sep-17-11 08:04 AM   #57 
              - "Qaddafi, for all his many faults, seems to be rather color blind."  joshcryer   Sep-17-11 08:10 AM   #61 
  - There is a wide rage of cultures and skin colors in Libya including non-arab and non-Euro Libyans  Distant Observer   Sep-16-11 10:11 PM   #20 
  - k&r  Starry Messenger   Sep-16-11 09:49 PM   #12 
  - Half of them wanted to kill Qaddafi because they thought he was Jewish. nt  Bonobo   Sep-16-11 09:52 PM   #13 
  - I've seen no reports of "kill the Jews" graffiti following the rebels  EFerrari   Sep-16-11 10:18 PM   #22 
     - But there were reports of "Gaddafi - Secret Jew" graffiti in Benghazi and such at the beginning  Distant Observer   Sep-16-11 10:29 PM   #25 
  - Mission Accomplished  inwiththenew   Sep-16-11 10:00 PM   #15 
  - K&R  EFerrari   Sep-16-11 10:07 PM   #18 
  - The Libya VICTORY could be Obama's bloody African legacy if he looses 2012  Distant Observer   Sep-16-11 11:21 PM   #35 
  - Why was there so little DU protest at the beginning of this mess?  mainer   Sep-17-11 06:56 AM   #39 
  - Arab Spring...  blindpig   Sep-17-11 07:08 AM   #40 
  - Huh? DU was vehemently against aiding the rebellion from the start.  joshcryer   Sep-17-11 07:13 AM   #41 
  - You forgot...  pinboy3niner   Sep-17-11 07:18 AM   #42 
  - Oh, who could forget?  joshcryer   Sep-17-11 07:24 AM   #43 
     - I think...  pinboy3niner   Sep-17-11 07:33 AM   #47 
        - Indeed.  joshcryer   Sep-17-11 07:54 AM   #53 
  - As usual, you provide a special perspective that others have not appreciated  Distant Observer   Sep-17-11 07:25 AM   #44 
  - Did you not read what I wrote? DU was against aiding them, overwhelmingly.  joshcryer   Sep-17-11 07:28 AM   #45 
     - Indeed.  pinboy3niner   Sep-17-11 08:00 AM   #55 
     - Bullshit. Prove it. The overwhelming view here was that Obama was right and we should wage war  PurityOfEssence   Sep-17-11 08:25 AM   #67 
        - Sure.  joshcryer   Sep-17-11 08:34 AM   #70 
           - This actually shows us both to be a bit off-base, and shows a rather even split.  PurityOfEssence   Sep-17-11 12:42 PM   #86 
  - What a ridiculous crock of shit  PurityOfEssence   Sep-17-11 08:20 AM   #65 
     - No, that's false. Go back. My journal is a full history.  joshcryer   Sep-17-11 08:24 AM   #66 
     - Well said. As in Libya, majority opinion was overwhelmed by minority rhetorical vehemence  Distant Observer   Sep-17-11 11:02 AM   #78 
     - Right the fuck on.  Starry Messenger   Sep-17-11 02:21 PM   #102 
     - Bingo. nt.  polly7   Sep-17-11 02:25 PM   #104 
  - Go back and look: there was considerable dissent  PurityOfEssence   Sep-17-11 08:14 AM   #63 
  - Oh there was. And they were hurled at and labeled "Ghadafi-lovers"  chill_wind   Sep-17-11 10:36 AM   #75 
  - I think initially when Libyans first started protesting  sabrina 1   Sep-17-11 12:22 PM   #82 
  - Excellent post  malaise   Sep-17-11 08:07 AM   #58 
  - Problem is, 99% of the racism is probably coming from just the jihadis......  AverageJoe90   Sep-17-11 08:08 AM   #59 
  - Why do you say "Gadaffy hated blacks"?  Prometheus Bound   Sep-17-11 08:15 AM   #64 
  - Because truth does not matter in the propaganda war. Statement is a total falsehood. But who cares?  Distant Observer   Sep-17-11 08:34 AM   #69 
  - Human Rights Watch has reports of gaddafis treatment of black Africans  Cerridwen   Sep-17-11 10:55 AM   #77 
  - I tried, but gave up trying to find evidence there that Gadaffy hates blacks.  Prometheus Bound   Sep-17-11 03:23 PM   #107 
  - I haven't a clue who gaddafi *hates*. his record appears to indicate he'll  Cerridwen   Sep-17-11 03:29 PM   #110 
     - Any actual facts? Or just the usual selective propaganda against tyrants we don't control  Distant Observer   Sep-17-11 06:39 PM   #116 
        - Do try to keep up. My post just above the one you chose has HRW info.  Cerridwen   Sep-17-11 06:46 PM   #117 
  - Thanks for the info. n/t  AverageJoe90   Sep-17-11 03:27 PM   #109 
  - You sound like a Republican.  AverageJoe90   Sep-17-11 03:34 PM   #111 
  - Libya and Africa: Pogrom  BOG PERSON   Sep-17-11 01:20 PM   #94 
  - Gangs attacked black Africans; security forces intervened. How does this show Gaddafy hates blacks?  Prometheus Bound   Sep-17-11 04:20 PM   #112 
  - How ironic. Obama putting genocidal power behind the notoriously racist Benghazi militants  Distant Observer   Sep-17-11 04:44 PM   #114 
  - Here's a little quote from the 'Green Book':  AverageJoe90   Sep-17-11 03:26 PM   #108 
  - This is akin to a religious argument when talking about "real rebels"  PurityOfEssence   Sep-17-11 08:33 AM   #68 
  - Stop, you're messing with the "Liberation" narrative.  marmar   Sep-17-11 08:51 AM   #72 
  - time to pay attention.. K&R  G_j   Sep-17-11 10:53 AM   #76 
  - Here is Human Rights Watch  ProSense   Sep-17-11 11:39 AM   #80 
  - It's the bloody Western sponsored civil war that has been negative.  Distant Observer   Sep-17-11 12:21 PM   #81 
  - How did you feel about the Iraq adventure? Was that positive  sabrina 1   Sep-17-11 12:30 PM   #83 
  - Hmmm?  ProSense   Sep-17-11 12:53 PM   #88 
     - You didn't answer the question. So I'll phrase differently  sabrina 1   Sep-17-11 01:01 PM   #90 
     - Um,  ProSense   Sep-17-11 01:09 PM   #92 
        - Here are some obvious, glaring similarities.  sabrina 1   Sep-17-11 01:21 PM   #95 
           - Um  ProSense   Sep-17-11 01:55 PM   #98 
              - Um, anyone who doesn't know what Qadaffi was threatening  sabrina 1   Sep-17-11 02:18 PM   #100 
                 - Well,  ProSense   Sep-17-11 02:23 PM   #103 
                    - They didn't invade Iraq either, they liberated it, remember?  sabrina 1   Sep-17-11 02:34 PM   #106 
                       - Wait  ProSense   Sep-17-11 04:59 PM   #115 
                          - I supported the Libyan protestors, BEFORE NATO got involved.  sabrina 1   Sep-17-11 07:11 PM   #118 
                          - The extent to which you have internalized the practice of doublethink terrifies and astonishes me.nt  sudopod   Sep-18-11 10:30 PM   #123 
                          - The extent to which you have internalized the practice of doublethink terrifies and astonishes me.nt  sudopod   Sep-18-11 10:30 PM   #124 
     - Would Iraq have been better off with Saddam?  sudopod   Sep-18-11 10:29 PM   #122 
  - There is no negative spin needed if you happen to be black in Libya. n/t  EFerrari   Sep-17-11 12:44 PM   #87 
  - More details in Amnesty International 112-page report (September 13)  chill_wind   Sep-17-11 12:32 PM   #84 
  - Even if you would 'pray' daily for any gaddafi to return to power: won't happen.  Amonester   Sep-17-11 12:57 PM   #89 
  - And we 'loved Saddam' too.  sabrina 1   Sep-17-11 01:07 PM   #91 
  - That's not what my 'won't happen' means.  Amonester   Sep-17-11 01:19 PM   #93 
  - 'Dream on' and 'pray daily'  sabrina 1   Sep-17-11 01:55 PM   #99 
  - I realize all you have in your philosophical toolbox is a hammer, so everything looks like a nail  stevenleser   Sep-19-11 05:31 AM   #129 
  - Well I don't know about you, but I was told I wanted to have Saddam's babies!  polly7   Sep-19-11 05:42 AM   #131 
  - What is the bizzare Western fixation on Gaddafi. How much hatred and blood over this obsession.  Distant Observer   Sep-17-11 01:41 PM   #96 
  - OIL!  sabrina 1   Sep-17-11 02:20 PM   #101 
  - R2P: Right to Petroleum  PurityOfEssence   Sep-17-11 07:24 PM   #119 
  - It has proven to be a highly effective propaganda strategy.  Prometheus Bound   Sep-17-11 04:34 PM   #113 
  - So if you obect to lynchings, you're a Gaddafi lover? Really? n/t  EFerrari   Sep-17-11 01:47 PM   #97 
  - How does raising awareness of Racist Genocide equate to...  countryjake   Sep-19-11 04:47 PM   #138 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-17-11 02:31 PM   #105 
  - BBC Report just re-confirmed systematic rape and murder of blacks by NTC forces in Tripoli  Distant Observer   Sep-18-11 10:16 PM   #121 
  - It's a Bad Time to be a Black man in Libya  polly7   Sep-19-11 01:13 AM   #125 
  - and I would guess, even worse to be a Black woman...  countryjake   Sep-19-11 05:16 PM   #139 
  - How "humanitarian" of NATO...  countryjake   Sep-19-11 02:26 AM   #126 
  - I'm betting you're Serbian, "distant observer" aren't you?  Whats_Happening   Sep-19-11 03:08 AM   #127 
  - Kosovo - Libya ?? Thank goodness you could connect them with the word  polly7   Sep-19-11 05:34 AM   #130 
  - So sometimes PNAC plans are good, and othertimes they're bad...  court jester   Sep-19-11 08:57 AM   #134 
     - thanks for that reminder of more NATO "freedom fighting"...nt.  countryjake   Sep-19-11 03:29 PM   #136 
  - BBC: Libya conflict: Black African migrants caught in backlash  Prometheus Bound   Sep-19-11 05:27 AM   #128 
  - Amnesty: Libyan rebels may be guilty of war crimes  Prometheus Bound   Sep-19-11 06:39 AM   #132 
  - NO NO NO! We couldn't be supproting groups that routinely murder, rape, torture and lie. Could we?  Distant Observer   Sep-19-11 08:21 AM   #133 
  - Black genocide in Libya - why the silence?  countryjake   Sep-19-11 03:06 PM   #135 
  - Whether it is Georgia or Libya: Bad time to be a black man  Distant Observer   Sep-21-11 05:10 PM   #140 
  - Prisons grow as rebels pursue their enemies and questions arise about the missing  Prometheus Bound   Sep-19-11 04:06 PM   #137 

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