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39. CFLs (part of the new law) don't cost that much. Don't you use those now? I do...
I spend several dollars for a CFL that equals about 100 watt (I use in my reading lamps). They're supposed to last several years. They don't. I favor the CFLs that have 3-levels of light, but those are more expensive. I forget how much.

I still use incandescents ONLY in fixtures with dimmer switches. I find the dimmer switches are actually MORE useful in extending the life of a bulb than buying CFL. But I live in a hot region, and incandescents put out too much heat to be comfortable sitting under as a reading light.

You can buy CFLs that are brighter white and softer white now. They used to all be the same commercial white.

LEDs are new, I think, and are different from CFLs. I'm wondering if they put out even less heat than CFLs.
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  -Seriously? Starting price $35-$40 per lightbulb, stabilizing at $20? seaglass  Sep-16-11 10:41 AM   #0 
  - don't they pay for themseves and then some through reduced electrical consumption?  Blues Heron   Sep-16-11 10:44 AM   #1 
  - If you live long enough.  former9thward   Sep-16-11 10:48 AM   #6 
  - I believe over the lifetime of the bulb which is 10-20 years. Don't break one!  seaglass   Sep-16-11 10:49 AM   #9 
  - Was thinking the same thing.  elleng   Sep-16-11 11:01 AM   #18 
  - That would be incredibly difficult to do. But have fun worrying before getting all the facts.  TalkingDog   Sep-16-11 02:24 PM   #59 
  - You could probably count the number of non-lounge OPs I've ever started  seaglass   Sep-16-11 03:23 PM   #67 
  - LED lightbulbs are effectively unbreakable.  TheWraith   Sep-16-11 03:42 PM   #75 
  - Would love to see 'them' pay with 'their' credit card at the cashier!  elleng   Sep-16-11 10:58 AM   #15 
  - Well, I'd like to replace all our recessed lights with LEDs  frazzled   Sep-16-11 10:44 AM   #2 
  - A forty watter is at Home Depot right now for $20..  Fumesucker   Sep-16-11 10:46 AM   #3 
  - That's what our kids are using in their gooseneck clamp bed lamps. I was tired of  GreenPartyVoter   Sep-17-11 09:35 PM   #119 
  - ...  NNN0LHI   Sep-16-11 10:47 AM   #4 
  - +1  Historic NY   Sep-16-11 10:58 AM   #16 
  - Really? Wouldn't it have been easier to not click on the thread instead of leaving this demeaning  seaglass   Sep-16-11 11:42 AM   #26 
     - I am really sorry  NNN0LHI   Sep-16-11 01:29 PM   #40 
        - Sorry, I don't know you and am used to a lot of mean people on this site.  seaglass   Sep-16-11 03:00 PM   #65 
  - $20/bulb isn't that bad, it comes out to $1/year, plus lower electrical costs.  FarLeftFist   Sep-16-11 10:47 AM   #5 
  - Where Are The 15.1% Of Americans Who Live Under The Poverty Line  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-11 10:57 AM   #14 
  - Subsidies for low income housing and citizens.  FarLeftFist   Sep-16-11 11:03 AM   #19 
  - As Long As It's Not An Undue Burden I Support It  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-11 11:04 AM   #22 
     - I completely understand. Low income buildings could buy in bulk and save while homeowners could  FarLeftFist   Sep-16-11 11:08 AM   #23 
  - give up cigarettes, alcohol, and soda nt  msongs   Sep-16-11 12:08 PM   #27 
  - In What Parallel Universe Does Your Average Broke Person  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-11 12:51 PM   #32 
     - Are You Kidding?  On the Road   Sep-16-11 01:32 PM   #44 
        - I Have Been Down To Twenty Nine Dollars  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-11 01:40 PM   #48 
        - Get some cheaper booze!  FrodosPet   Sep-16-11 03:10 PM   #66 
        - I Do Not Doubt That You Spend Your Money Wisely  On the Road   Sep-16-11 03:30 PM   #70 
           - The Ironic Thing Is That I See The Homeless Spend Money On Cigs, Booze, And Soda  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-11 03:34 PM   #73 
              - It's Really Amazing  On the Road   Sep-16-11 03:55 PM   #76 
                 - Wow  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-11 04:01 PM   #78 
                 - There is a Whole Cycle of Poverty  On the Road   Sep-16-11 05:13 PM   #88 
                 - Homeless People Don't Buy Lightbulbs  NashVegas   Sep-16-11 09:35 PM   #96 
                    - Not All Poor People Are Homeless (Thank God)  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-17-11 01:16 PM   #113 
                       - Yet.  lonestarnot   Sep-17-11 08:04 PM   #116 
                 - I dated a rich guy once  XemaSab   Sep-17-11 09:36 PM   #120 
        - Yep  JustAmused   Sep-16-11 09:57 PM   #99 
  - Under the new law (which will probably be overturned), incandescents will still be  Honeycombe8   Sep-16-11 01:38 PM   #47 
  - I thought I heard last night that the plan was to phase out all incandescents over time starting  seaglass   Sep-16-11 02:52 PM   #62 
     - CFLs DO have lower costs than they used to. No one has to buy LEDs. Besides,  Honeycombe8   Sep-16-11 04:05 PM   #82 
  - If a state is like Connecticut, they will be subsidized.  NutmegYankee   Sep-16-11 05:20 PM   #89 
  - candles mean fire  pitohui   Sep-17-11 08:45 PM   #117 
     - Not always access to running water.  xmas74   Sep-18-11 12:17 AM   #123 
  - CFLs don't cost $20, where I live. They cost several dollars for one with a fairly  Honeycombe8   Sep-16-11 01:46 PM   #51 
  - Thats about $2.60 a year  Johnson20   Sep-16-11 10:49 AM   #7 
  - There's also the blue light spectrum  Coyote_Bandit   Sep-16-11 10:51 AM   #10 
  - They did mention that they had yellow light LEDs that gave off light  seaglass   Sep-16-11 10:54 AM   #12 
  - I don't understand Americs infatuation with tungsten lighting,  Scruffy1   Sep-16-11 04:26 PM   #85 
  - A quick search of Amazon found the price of $12.75 to 27.00 for a 60 watt equivalent LED.  Scruffy1   Sep-16-11 05:04 PM   #87 
  - I've been looking for yellow light LEDs here locally  Coyote_Bandit   Sep-16-11 04:49 PM   #86 
  - Gosh, never heard of that.  Johnson20   Sep-16-11 11:14 AM   #25 
  - Also, did you know that DOGS can see the flicker in CFL lights?  Honeycombe8   Sep-16-11 01:41 PM   #49 
     - Old fluorescents with magnetic ballasts did.  hunter   Sep-16-11 11:26 PM   #104 
  - Yes that is correct and what freaked me out a bit. For many though I don't think it will be  seaglass   Sep-16-11 10:52 AM   #11 
  - I'm vision impaired  Coyote_Bandit   Sep-16-11 10:49 AM   #8 
  - You may see better with CFLs  SmileyRose   Sep-16-11 10:49 PM   #101 
  - Lifespan is key  Literate Dragon   Sep-16-11 10:54 AM   #13 
  - I need some incandescents...  InvisibleTouch   Sep-16-11 11:00 AM   #17 
  - LEDs don't really generate heat  blogslut   Sep-16-11 11:03 AM   #20 
  - I predict there will be a market for non-luminous heaters  localroger   Sep-16-11 01:51 PM   #52 
  - I did not like the light spectrum either, BUT I recently found some with  SoCalDem   Sep-16-11 11:04 AM   #21 
  - haligens get hot too. i just bought an led desk lamp for $16 at  ellenfl   Sep-16-11 12:29 PM   #28 
  - My CFLs get hot. Not as hot as incandescents. Halogens get WAY hot! Not for me! LEDs...  Honeycombe8   Sep-16-11 01:34 PM   #45 
  - Don't they sell special neodymium coated bulbs for that?  DireStrike   Sep-16-11 02:53 PM   #64 
     - I think bulbs specifically for heating animals will still be available...  InvisibleTouch   Sep-16-11 03:25 PM   #68 
  - They should be givne tax writeoffs. And where they will really shine is for Med Mar. cultivation.  WingDinger   Sep-16-11 11:12 AM   #24 
  - Another problem with LPS lighting...  jmowreader   Sep-16-11 04:17 PM   #84 
     - One thing to do is to buy a welder..  Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel   Sep-17-11 09:03 AM   #111 
        - That won't work  jmowreader   Sep-17-11 07:02 PM   #114 
  - You're being swayed by the fear-mongering of the Right  DainBramaged   Sep-16-11 12:31 PM   #29 
  - I am? Only rw people worry about how much things cost?  seaglass   Sep-16-11 12:46 PM   #31 
     - I stand by what I said  DainBramaged   Sep-16-11 12:57 PM   #33 
        - well I guess we'll find out...how many years from now? meet you back here :-) n/t  seaglass   Sep-16-11 01:02 PM   #34 
  - I get 2 bulbs for 20 dollars at the local sams  librechik   Sep-16-11 12:35 PM   #30 
  - LEDs? Or do you mean CFLs? They're different. I haven't seen LEDs; I use CFLs, tho. nt  Honeycombe8   Sep-16-11 01:25 PM   #37 
     - LEDs. I have CFLs almost everywhere else already  librechik   Sep-16-11 08:37 PM   #91 
  - "When people move from one place to another..."  Mariana   Sep-16-11 01:18 PM   #35 
  - The Repubs have a bill in the house, I think, to overturn that bulb law.  Honeycombe8   Sep-16-11 01:23 PM   #36 
  - My CFL outdoor light by my garage door just burned out after less than a year.  TwilightGardener   Sep-16-11 01:27 PM   #38 
  - I have had a CFL as my porch light for several years now. It's a yellow bug light.  Honeycombe8   Sep-16-11 01:31 PM   #42 
  - Yes, I have CFL recessed lighting in my kitchen that seems to have  TwilightGardener   Sep-16-11 01:36 PM   #46 
     - Hmm. Well, maybe I lucked out on the one I got. It's GE, I think. It's specifically for  Honeycombe8   Sep-16-11 01:44 PM   #50 
  - If your CFLs are burning out that early  cyglet   Sep-16-11 06:08 PM   #90 
  - As Opposed to Once a Month?  NashVegas   Sep-16-11 09:37 PM   #97 
  - CFLs (part of the new law) don't cost that much. Don't you use those now? I do...  Honeycombe8   Sep-16-11 01:29 PM   #39 
  - I bought an LED that will last essentially forever  Matariki   Sep-16-11 01:30 PM   #41 
  - I haven't seen LED lights. Where did you get it? nt  Honeycombe8   Sep-16-11 01:32 PM   #43 
     - Try earthled.com - nt  Gari   Sep-16-11 02:00 PM   #53 
     - I got it at Lowes. It's a led lightbulb  Matariki   Sep-16-11 03:27 PM   #69 
     - Here's an article that explains LEDs pretty well  Matariki   Sep-16-11 03:34 PM   #74 
        - Thanks. nt  Honeycombe8   Sep-16-11 04:05 PM   #83 
  - Please stop spreading the crap about mercury in CFL's  localroger   Sep-16-11 02:01 PM   #54 
  - Why is it crap? They contain mercury and at least in my state cannot be thrown away in the trash  seaglass   Sep-16-11 02:44 PM   #60 
  - Just proof legislators can be stupid. The mercury is trivial.  localroger   Sep-17-11 08:22 AM   #109 
  - Uh, might want to tell the EPA that.  Union Scribe   Sep-16-11 10:59 PM   #103 
     - I wish someone would tell the. It's STUPID.  localroger   Sep-17-11 08:23 AM   #110 
  - Costco carries several LED bulbs  Duer 157099   Sep-16-11 02:03 PM   #55 
  - How will they afford $2/year per bulb? You're kidding, right?  eridani   Sep-16-11 02:05 PM   #56 
  - Once again, I wonder what fucking planet some of you live on.  Shandris   Sep-16-11 02:50 PM   #61 
  - If You Saw The Income Of Some DUERS When They Do Surveys You Would Understand  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-11 03:31 PM   #71 
  - It's not just that, but they last 10-20 years. Will you get that benefit?  ItNerd4life   Sep-16-11 04:03 PM   #80 
  - You wouldn't leave your microwave, right? Of course you'd take them with  eridani   Sep-16-11 09:33 PM   #95 
  - You replace them one at a time over an affordable period  eridani   Sep-16-11 09:18 PM   #94 
     - Yeah I agree here of course.  Shandris   Sep-16-11 10:38 PM   #100 
        - Agred. Rereading, it comes off like why don't the poor save by buying things in bulk  eridani   Sep-17-11 01:35 AM   #107 
  - You buy your bulbs on a monthly payment plan?  Union Scribe   Sep-16-11 10:55 PM   #102 
     - My phone service is $20/month  eridani   Sep-17-11 01:30 AM   #106 
  - LED bulbs are worth the price if you can buy one here and one there until  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-16-11 02:11 PM   #57 
  - I question the 10-20 years though...  exelwood   Sep-16-11 02:24 PM   #58 
  - This sucks. We're getting hosed!  JVS   Sep-16-11 02:52 PM   #63 
  - LED lighting in the form of bulbs and even solar lanterns  chillspike   Sep-16-11 03:33 PM   #72 
  - where the hell are you shopping?  JesterCS   Sep-16-11 03:56 PM   #77 
  - Haha - I don't buy the light bulbs. As I said in my OP I haven't been paying close  seaglass   Sep-16-11 04:01 PM   #79 
  - Already made the switch here in Argentina.  Capitalocracy   Sep-16-11 04:03 PM   #81 
  - Cleanup instructions for CFL bulbs (watch that mercury vapor)  Nye Bevan   Sep-16-11 09:13 PM   #92 
  - last 10 years my ass  MattBaggins   Sep-16-11 09:15 PM   #93 
  - We got a box of 6 curly bulbs from Costco for around $20-25 two years ago  NICO9000   Sep-16-11 09:46 PM   #98 
  - No, those are compact fluorescents.  sofa king   Sep-17-11 09:38 AM   #112 
  - Based upon gross pay of minimum wage, it will take nearly 6 hours of labor to buy  Trillo   Sep-17-11 12:41 AM   #105 
  - I'd probably be apt to buy a $20 LED bulb for the simple fact that  LoZoccolo   Sep-17-11 01:45 AM   #108 
  - I have LED lights  Tallulah   Sep-17-11 08:02 PM   #115 
  - Tried to use some in my bathroom but they had a low hum to them, not acceptable.  sarcasmo   Sep-17-11 09:32 PM   #118 
  - This room is lit by LED's. They are low heat too.  alfredo   Sep-17-11 09:42 PM   #121 
  - so buy a CFL for a couple of dollars.  alarimer   Sep-17-11 10:42 PM   #122 
  - When I first heard this I thought they were saying they were phasing out CFLs  seaglass   Sep-18-11 05:16 AM   #124 
  - Instead of looking at this as getting your money's worth after 20 years it might help...  JVS   Sep-18-11 05:25 AM   #125 
 

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