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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 01:46 AM
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67. "I share your values" is bullshit unless you state what your values are
Being in favor of public goods, and being in favor of turning to each other instead of on each other are values. Ihe very important FEELING is solidarity, which is quite different from bigotry and hatred, also feelings.
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  -Can someone please tell me what Obama's values are? eridani  Sep-16-11 06:15 AM   #0 
  - I don't rightly give a shit at this point. We should turn most of our attention to the Republicans.  Zynx   Sep-16-11 06:17 AM   #1 
  - And those Republicans clearly state their values  eridani   Sep-16-11 06:20 AM   #3 
  - I wasn't aware that republiCONS had values. nt  HappyMe   Sep-16-11 06:23 AM   #4 
     - They've controlled the airwaves shouting about them for the last 40 years  eridani   Sep-16-11 06:31 AM   #7 
  - You aren't going to elect Obama if you don't give a shit what he stands for.  LWolf   Sep-17-11 07:36 PM   #60 
     - Huh??  Pigheaded   Sep-18-11 12:57 PM   #72 
        - What is hard to comprehend? It seems simply obvious to me. nt  LWolf   Sep-18-11 12:59 PM   #73 
  - ...  HappyMe   Sep-16-11 06:20 AM   #2 
  - Interesting question  Owlet   Sep-16-11 06:29 AM   #5 
  - Very briefly, public goods are GOOD  eridani   Sep-16-11 06:34 AM   #9 
     - Do you consider the drug war to be a "public good"? n/t  Fumesucker   Sep-16-11 07:16 AM   #16 
        - Nope. That's why I defend PUBLIC GOODS, and not government per se  eridani   Sep-16-11 01:24 PM   #20 
  - reelection  alc   Sep-16-11 06:30 AM   #6 
  - With enough money, you can make his values whatever you want it to be. nt  Selatius   Sep-16-11 06:34 AM   #8 
  - From 2000 to the present...  A wise Man   Sep-16-11 06:38 AM   #10 
  - This attitude is rather quite the problem.  Chan790   Sep-16-11 06:52 AM   #13 
  - These times are worse than Bush's presidency, are they not?  Erose999   Sep-16-11 07:13 AM   #15 
  - LOL, uh yeah...  dionysus   Sep-16-11 01:37 PM   #33 
  - Sorry, but "we suck less" is not a value n/t  eridani   Sep-16-11 01:26 PM   #22 
  - maybe NEXT time you should probably break  MisterP   Sep-16-11 02:14 PM   #40 
  - Anthony Weiner said he's not a values kind of guy.  Lasher   Sep-16-11 06:44 AM   #11 
  - It's also probably why he's not in office anymore. n/t  Exilednight   Sep-17-11 07:07 AM   #49 
  - Machine wash, warm water  Mugweed   Sep-16-11 06:47 AM   #12 
  - Pleasing rich, corporate, and GOP assholes.  ananda   Sep-16-11 06:58 AM   #14 
  - He values consensus and compromise  Bragi   Sep-16-11 07:19 AM   #17 
  - Excellent. The first really appropriate answer  eridani   Sep-16-11 01:27 PM   #23 
  - Right, the process is more important than the end result  Mr Deltoid   Sep-16-11 01:30 PM   #26 
  - Consensus and compromise require more than just him...  Little Star   Sep-16-11 01:54 PM   #38 
  - Above all else, at the end of the day he needs to appear as "the only adult in the room."  Pholus   Sep-16-11 07:52 AM   #18 
  - "They have this destructive vision of where America should be going."  eridani   Sep-16-11 01:31 PM   #27 
  - bravo!! you have also spoken my own heart on this  SwampG8r   Sep-17-11 09:54 AM   #53 
  - irrelevant.  blindpig   Sep-16-11 07:58 AM   #19 
  - Policy wise, yes. Communicating to the public? Unfortunately we need clear  eridani   Sep-16-11 01:32 PM   #28 
     - As both parties are capitalist...  blindpig   Sep-16-11 01:51 PM   #37 
        - +1  hifiguy   Sep-16-11 01:59 PM   #39 
        - Let me know when you find an anti-capitalist party with a voter contact list n/t  eridani   Sep-16-11 08:58 PM   #42 
           - Organization first.  blindpig   Sep-17-11 06:58 AM   #48 
              - You learn to do elections by doing elections  eridani   Sep-18-11 01:43 AM   #66 
  - Drones and Drug Wars..  Upton   Sep-16-11 01:25 PM   #21 
  - Those aren't values. They are policies n/t  eridani   Sep-16-11 01:33 PM   #31 
     - You develop your policies based on your values. Well, at least I do. n/t  Exilednight   Sep-17-11 07:09 AM   #50 
  - Same as they were in '08. Getting elected.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Sep-16-11 01:28 PM   #24 
  - He clearly hates us.  JoePhilly   Sep-16-11 01:29 PM   #25 
  - Could you try to answer the question? n/t  eridani   Sep-16-11 01:32 PM   #29 
     - Why? I'm not a mind-reader.  JNinWB   Sep-16-11 01:37 PM   #34 
     - I don't, and neither do most people. With politicians, you shouldn't have to read their minds n/t  eridani   Sep-16-11 01:51 PM   #36 
     - I did ... clearly he hates America.  JoePhilly   Sep-17-11 10:29 AM   #55 
  - This thread is a waste of time.  Major Hogwash   Sep-16-11 01:33 PM   #30 
  - Silly me. Of course we don't need a strong values message to counter  eridani   Sep-16-11 01:34 PM   #32 
  - yes  SwampG8r   Sep-17-11 09:56 AM   #54 
  - I agree. The MODs should immediately delete bullshit OPs like this one.  bluestate10   Sep-17-11 07:38 PM   #61 
  - politics is not driven by "values"  Claudia Jones   Sep-16-11 01:37 PM   #35 
  - THANK YOU ...  Cosmocat   Sep-16-11 02:17 PM   #41 
  - You mean that fighting for the have nots isn't a value?  eridani   Sep-16-11 09:00 PM   #43 
     - I see what you are saying  Claudia Jones   Sep-17-11 11:02 AM   #56 
        - "I share your values" is bullshit unless you state what your values are  eridani   Sep-18-11 01:46 AM   #67 
           - yep  Claudia Jones   Sep-18-11 12:29 PM   #68 
  - An empty suit apparently  quinnox   Sep-16-11 09:02 PM   #44 
  - Not your pony anyhow.  Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin   Sep-16-11 09:12 PM   #45 
  - We agree...  jefferson_dem   Sep-17-11 08:58 PM   #64 
  - Cash for Clunkers  B Calm   Sep-16-11 09:14 PM   #46 
  - He's stated his values many times, and demonstrated them consistently  bhikkhu   Sep-16-11 09:24 PM   #47 
  - In other words, compromise then capitulate when the other side doesn't compromise. n/t  Exilednight   Sep-17-11 07:11 AM   #51 
  - The easiest way is to watch. He is a neo-liberal.  LWolf   Sep-17-11 09:35 PM   #65 
  - Getting elected  PurityOfEssence   Sep-17-11 08:36 AM   #52 
  - Go here for a nice summary:  woo me with science   Sep-17-11 11:39 AM   #57 
  - "what we believe"  Claudia Jones   Sep-17-11 03:59 PM   #58 
     - Superb post .  woo me with science   Sep-17-11 07:34 PM   #59 
  - Getting through news cycles?  LetTimmySmoke   Sep-17-11 08:53 PM   #62 
  - He values doing stuff to make you mad.  jefferson_dem   Sep-17-11 08:55 PM   #63 
  - Ya got me.  Safetykitten   Sep-18-11 12:30 PM   #69 
  - Genital inspections in airports, amnesty for Wall Street crooks and torturers -nt  scentopine   Sep-18-11 12:38 PM   #70 
  - Translation: I don't think Obama has good values!  Honeycombe8   Sep-18-11 12:41 PM   #71 
     - Only two values have been listed in the whole thread  eridani   Sep-19-11 03:37 AM   #74 

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