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Fri Sep-16-11 07:10 AM
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| 65. How about NO PENSION unless they work 20 consecutive years |
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..and why not make it means tested too since they often enrich themselves AFTER they become congresspeople/senators..
and NO medical either in retirement.. let them find their own on the "open market"..
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| -Bill to Prevent Congress from Collecting Pensions Until Reaching Social Security Retirement Age |
Ian David |
Sep-15-11 09:06 AM |
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Tea Partiers would agree to this, which tells you something |
Bragi |
Sep-15-11 09:15 AM |
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Plenty of people here also would like Congress to 'walk in our shoes'. |
Demit |
Sep-15-11 09:19 AM |
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This is an extension of the right-wing anti-government meme |
Bragi |
Sep-15-11 09:25 AM |
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lol - all of a sudden requiring rich folk to give up money is a "right wing meme" - |
TBF |
Sep-15-11 10:10 AM |
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+ My household. n/t |
truedelphi |
Sep-15-11 08:45 PM |
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Agreed. |
tcaudilllg |
Sep-16-11 05:31 AM |
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Promote democracy? |
sulphurdunn |
Sep-15-11 05:49 PM |
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It's not anti-government it's anti-hypocrisy and anti-entitlement. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-16-11 08:02 AM |
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Exactly. |
Enthusiast |
Sep-15-11 09:53 AM |
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No, it is a fair way to let 'everyone share the sacrifice' |
sabrina 1 |
Sep-15-11 07:30 PM |
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Then we have areas of agreement. They (baggers) seem to |
gateley |
Sep-15-11 09:20 AM |
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If 50 teabaggers |
sulphurdunn |
Sep-15-11 06:37 PM |
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But if we AND teabaggers showed up to support the SAME THING -- |
gateley |
Sep-15-11 07:29 PM |
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OR - It fits into the Economic Justice meme: pay people what their Real Value is worth + Keep the |
patrice |
Sep-15-11 10:14 AM |
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Wow! Good for Brown! Fat chance, and if 'they' oppose this, |
gateley |
Sep-15-11 09:16 AM |
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They'll easily oppose it |
Bragi |
Sep-15-11 09:26 AM |
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Sigh. You're probably right. They spin EVERYTHING. nt |
gateley |
Sep-15-11 07:33 PM |
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A mandatory retirement age |
Turbineguy |
Sep-15-11 09:26 AM |
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Why should voters choices be limited? |
Bragi |
Sep-15-11 09:28 AM |
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Actually it can work well - |
TBF |
Sep-15-11 10:14 AM |
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Like being a professor emeritus/emerita |
eridani |
Sep-15-11 11:47 AM |
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Big diffference between lawyers and legislators |
Bragi |
Sep-15-11 05:09 PM |
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that's weird... |
druidity33 |
Sep-15-11 06:00 PM |
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That makes no sense - |
TBF |
Sep-16-11 06:58 AM |
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For me, it's about limiting people's democratic choices |
Bragi |
Sep-16-11 07:13 AM |
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Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. nt |
TBF |
Sep-16-11 08:24 AM |
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How does that not violate the Age Discrimination Act? |
spooky3 |
Sep-15-11 05:38 PM |
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Not sure - maybe someone will weigh in who knows. My guess is that it |
TBF |
Sep-15-11 08:25 PM |
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That doesn't trump statutory rights, which an employee can't be required to waive. |
spooky3 |
Sep-16-11 02:28 PM |
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How does democracy benefit now? |
atreides1 |
Sep-15-11 03:28 PM |
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My point is more limited |
Bragi |
Sep-15-11 05:07 PM |
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I believe this thread has been hijacked..it started out being |
shraby |
Sep-16-11 08:43 AM |
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So basically, your argument is that voters are too ignorant to pick good representatives |
Hippo_Tron |
Sep-15-11 09:21 PM |
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That's how I read it /nt |
Bragi |
Sep-16-11 07:14 AM |
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there are differences between GOP and Dems |
booley |
Sep-15-11 09:32 AM |
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See what I mean about Sherrod Brown? |
Enthusiast |
Sep-15-11 09:52 AM |
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GREAT bill, truly! But how about a bill to require vote counting in the PUBLIC venue, |
Peace Patriot |
Sep-15-11 09:56 AM |
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April 6 - right after the Ryan Plan - Democrats had an opening |
spedtr90 |
Sep-15-11 10:05 AM |
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Great press release. |
TacticalPeek |
Sep-15-11 10:21 AM |
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We ought to require that they struggle in the medical insurance open market |
kestrel91316 |
Sep-15-11 10:28 AM |
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Important point. |
avaistheone1 |
Sep-15-11 10:47 AM |
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Thank the gods of democracy for the likes of Senators Brown and Sanders. |
Matariki |
Sep-15-11 10:46 AM |
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That's my Senator |
GOTV |
Sep-15-11 10:51 AM |
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Mine too! nt |
Auntie Bush |
Sep-15-11 07:27 PM |
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Yes! And, end their health care entitlement so they can buy it on |
kiranon |
Sep-15-11 11:15 AM |
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So instead they'll be more easily courted by big business. |
Sirveri |
Sep-15-11 11:41 AM |
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There has been talk of doing the same to the military pension age |
sammytko |
Sep-15-11 11:52 AM |
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Military pensions are different since military personnel can't affect policy. |
Sirveri |
Sep-15-11 05:40 PM |
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Why not just make them PAY IN TO SS and retire on it? |
Vincardog |
Sep-15-11 02:09 PM |
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They wouldn't take the cut in benefit , for part time job they do |
julian09 |
Sep-15-11 05:29 PM |
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Yes, and Medicare as well. |
plumbob |
Sep-16-11 12:23 AM |
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Teabaggers should be all for this one |
Kingofalldems |
Sep-15-11 02:09 PM |
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GRRRREAT! Of course, it won't pass. **sucks** When I first read this, |
valerief |
Sep-15-11 04:15 PM |
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This bill will go nowhere. nt |
NorthCarolina |
Sep-15-11 05:04 PM |
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Pensions, etc. |
Magginkat |
Sep-15-11 05:20 PM |
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This will never make it to a vote and will be forgotten by Monday |
Marrah_G |
Sep-15-11 05:54 PM |
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I'm sure congressmen need the money |
Juche |
Sep-15-11 06:05 PM |
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Seems fair to me! Way to go Brown. Love Brown and Sanders. Two of the best! |
Auntie Bush |
Sep-15-11 07:37 PM |
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Can't agree. I've been retired since age 52, with a pension. |
WinkyDink |
Sep-15-11 07:52 PM |
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I would also like to see Congressional pay tied to the median income |
Bjorn Against |
Sep-15-11 08:02 PM |
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None of them would really miss it, anyways |
Canuckistanian |
Sep-15-11 08:31 PM |
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+10000000000000 |
Liberal_in_LA |
Sep-15-11 08:33 PM |
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Massive Cheers!!!! |
Guilded Lilly |
Sep-15-11 09:43 PM |
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Yes and let them pay full price for healthcare. All benefits end once out of office. |
Riley18 |
Sep-15-11 09:54 PM |
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Say it with me.... |
MrMickeysMom |
Sep-15-11 10:36 PM |
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I love this idea. |
Chisox08 |
Sep-15-11 10:55 PM |
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K&R This is brilliant. |
midnight |
Sep-15-11 11:03 PM |
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REC. Thank you Senator Brown. nt |
bertman |
Sep-15-11 11:22 PM |
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Yeah, like that'll ever pass. |
rucky |
Sep-16-11 05:34 AM |
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Go For It ! |
orbitalman |
Sep-16-11 07:07 AM |
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How about NO PENSION unless they work 20 consecutive years |
SoCalDem |
Sep-16-11 07:10 AM |
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Remember those "unintended consequences"? |
Disorientedx3 |
Sep-16-11 07:35 AM |
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Get rid of the pensions. That would be step toward getting rid of professional politicians. |
Javaman |
Sep-16-11 07:51 AM |
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if we can get rid of professional lobbyists... |
SHRED |
Sep-16-11 08:14 AM |
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And the lobbyists as well. |
Javaman |
Sep-16-11 08:47 AM |
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Kneejerk wrong direction |
SHRED |
Sep-16-11 08:11 AM |
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thank you! it would be a slippery slope |
sammytko |
Sep-16-11 09:02 AM |
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About time! K & R |
mother earth |
Sep-16-11 08:50 AM |
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Too late to recommend. |
Quantess |
Sep-16-11 06:14 PM |
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