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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 01:12 PM
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12. The next-door, pack-a-day smoker had nothing to do with a window
Our townhouse had a "modified firewall", which didn't show up in the initial inspection. There was a 6" gap at the top, just enough for the neighbor's cigarette smoke to leach into our home, 24x7.

We sold as quickly as possible, and we had to divulge the neighbor's nasty little habit as part of the sale.

Did you know that non-smokers can contract lung cancer?

>You make it sound like somebody fired up a coal plant in the bathroom<

Such wit.
I wonder what the reaction would be if we piped skunk spray odor into their home, 24x7.
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  -Sonoma County bans smoking in apartments and condos The Straight Story  Sep-14-11 12:49 PM   #0 
  - I am sure there is a lot of support for this here  Broderick   Sep-14-11 12:50 PM   #1 
  - Nor I.  TheWraith   Sep-14-11 12:52 PM   #2 
     - Next thing they will want to do is make certain things that go  Broderick   Sep-14-11 01:02 PM   #8 
     - And if you have COPD, or heart failure, or ?, suffer fool. Get an oxygen concentrator, you traitor.  WingDinger   Sep-14-11 01:11 PM   #11 
        - LOL  Broderick   Sep-14-11 01:14 PM   #13 
           - I dont like my fats crossdressing.  WingDinger   Sep-14-11 03:17 PM   #35 
              - At least you won't be tempted by a happy meal  Broderick   Sep-14-11 04:35 PM   #40 
              - I prefer the GAY meal, not just happy.  WingDinger   Sep-14-11 05:06 PM   #47 
              - DUzy!  Odin2005   Sep-15-11 11:58 AM   #133 
     - even if it harms others? it equals a pack a day  amborin   Sep-15-11 01:16 AM   #115 
     - Er, I believe that you are in error...  ElboRuum   Sep-15-11 02:22 AM   #116 
        - you're right, i was wrong; duh, should not post when half asleep  amborin   Sep-15-11 10:18 PM   #149 
     - Except if you are in an apartment, smoke doesn't always stay just in the apartment of the smokers.  raccoon   Sep-15-11 03:24 PM   #142 
  - This is awesome  taught_me_patience   Sep-14-11 12:56 PM   #3 
  - shut your window...  snooper2   Sep-14-11 01:00 PM   #5 
  - The next-door, pack-a-day smoker had nothing to do with a window  Missy Vixen   Sep-14-11 01:12 PM   #12 
  - This will be challenged in court and...If the condo is owned..  mrmpa   Sep-14-11 03:39 PM   #36 
  - Did you not read my previous comments?  Missy Vixen   Sep-14-11 04:51 PM   #44 
     - yeagh, I did...................but you say nothing about .....  mrmpa   Sep-14-11 06:46 PM   #73 
        - Frankly, I don't understand what you're driving at  Missy Vixen   Sep-14-11 07:51 PM   #81 
           - Read & comprehend....  mrmpa   Sep-14-11 10:24 PM   #99 
              - Considering the fact you didn't comprehend my opening comments,  Missy Vixen   Sep-15-11 12:46 PM   #136 
  - Did you know that some cases of lung cancer are NOT caused by smoking?  Bake   Sep-14-11 05:27 PM   #52 
     - And your point?  Missy Vixen   Sep-14-11 07:58 PM   #86 
        - Actually, that's a very good question you ask.  ElboRuum   Sep-15-11 02:34 AM   #117 
  - I suppose you wouldn't object if I pissed in your drinking water then?  Bandit   Sep-14-11 01:18 PM   #15 
  - You could give it a shot...  snooper2   Sep-14-11 01:21 PM   #18 
  - Thanks for admitting smoking on a balcony creates a nuisance  taught_me_patience   Sep-14-11 01:34 PM   #21 
  - Well, depends on what is being burned whether it's a nuisance  snooper2   Sep-14-11 02:15 PM   #28 
  - Oh for G-d sakes. You are fucking ridiculous.. NO ONE who has been exposed to 3 seconds worth of  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-14-11 04:33 PM   #39 
     - Your argument is bullshit on every level  taught_me_patience   Sep-14-11 05:17 PM   #48 
        - Smoke wafting into your airspace from your neighbors is NOT going to give you cancer.  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-14-11 05:44 PM   #56 
           - You are waaay overconfident.  Arugula Latte   Sep-14-11 05:52 PM   #60 
              - Maybe if you're sitting in the damn room day after day, year after year, but  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-14-11 06:05 PM   #63 
                 - Indiana Univ Says 2nd hand smoke in apt = smoking a pack a day  amborin   Sep-15-11 01:13 AM   #113 
                    - Misquoted. Refer to #116.  ElboRuum   Sep-15-11 02:38 AM   #118 
                    - that none sourced article claims one cigarette a day - not one pack  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-15-11 03:21 AM   #122 
                       - you're right; my bad;  amborin   Sep-15-11 10:16 PM   #148 
  - Um, there's loads and loads of scientific proof that cigarette smoking DOES pollute the air.  Lucian   Sep-14-11 06:27 PM   #70 
  - I assume you also want to ban cars anywhere near your home.  former9thward   Sep-14-11 01:34 PM   #22 
  - If I woke up in the muddle of the night with exhaust fumes wafting in my condo I would evacuate.  Hassin Bin Sober   Sep-14-11 10:12 PM   #96 
     - The carbon monoxide and particulate matter is odorless.  former9thward   Sep-14-11 11:15 PM   #101 
        - Bullshit. Unless you live above a garage.  Hassin Bin Sober   Sep-15-11 11:16 AM   #128 
           - You know zero about the mechanics of air pollution.  former9thward   Sep-15-11 11:46 AM   #130 
              - LOL. Says the second-hand-smoke danger denier.  Hassin Bin Sober   Sep-15-11 01:26 PM   #137 
  - It is, but you're getting a lot of pushback from the addicts commenting here..nt  joeybee12   Sep-14-11 01:35 PM   #23 
  - I don't smoke, yet I think this is a load of crap.  Throd   Sep-14-11 01:50 PM   #27 
  - Are we talking about the same Long Beach bounded by the port, the 405, the 710, and the 605?  Throd   Sep-14-11 02:38 PM   #30 
  - Let me play Devil's Advocate here...  KansDem   Sep-14-11 12:59 PM   #4 
  - That's a choice the consumer should be making  RZM   Sep-14-11 01:06 PM   #9 
  - I know of incidents where a "pet deposit" was required.  KansDem   Sep-14-11 01:16 PM   #14 
     - I don't know if I would support that or not  RZM   Sep-14-11 01:26 PM   #20 
  - A $200 OZONE machine would kill any and all remnants of cigarette smoke. It would disintegrate it.  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-14-11 04:28 PM   #38 
     - No it won't. We used to use those on a car lot where I worked.  Hassin Bin Sober   Sep-14-11 04:42 PM   #42 
     - Bullshit. You just didn't have a powerful enough Ozone machine then.  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-14-11 05:35 PM   #54 
        - LOL. How "powerful" does it have to be?  Hassin Bin Sober   Sep-14-11 10:06 PM   #95 
     - No, it won't.  LeftyMom   Sep-14-11 06:23 PM   #68 
  - What a bunch of shit  RZM   Sep-14-11 01:01 PM   #6 
  - Shouldn't something like that be at the discretion of landlords/apt. building owners?  LeftinOH   Sep-14-11 01:02 PM   #7 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-14-11 01:20 PM   #17 
  - If you do that, they may make the wrong choice. nt  Recovered Repug   Sep-14-11 01:41 PM   #25 
  - Yikes  NeedleCast   Sep-14-11 01:08 PM   #10 
  - Hopefully they exempt Pot!  Broderick   Sep-14-11 01:19 PM   #16 
  - I tend to suspect that if this law singled out pot - many people applauding it would be against it  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-14-11 05:49 PM   #58 
  - I have bronchitis from second hand smoke now...  sfpcjock   Sep-14-11 01:23 PM   #19 
  - One day we'll live in a society where, by law, no one is allowed to upset anyone else.  Rageneau   Sep-14-11 01:39 PM   #24 
  - A condo association should be able to ban smoking in condos  AmericaIsGreat   Sep-14-11 01:44 PM   #26 
  - Condo associations are in charge of common areas  taught_me_patience   Sep-14-11 02:35 PM   #29 
     - If they can ban pets, they can ban smoking.  Hassin Bin Sober   Sep-14-11 04:43 PM   #43 
        - In california, they cannot ban pets.  taught_me_patience   Sep-14-11 05:23 PM   #51 
        - So can busybodies who want to interfere with other's rights.  former9thward   Sep-15-11 03:12 PM   #140 
           - Don't worry. I wouldn't want to be around your cigarette stench.  Hassin Bin Sober   Sep-15-11 04:04 PM   #145 
  - Cool! WIth all the medical marijuana patients here  raouldukelives   Sep-14-11 02:38 PM   #31 
  - When will it stop, no eating chocolate if you are 5 lbs over weight?  sarcasmo   Sep-14-11 02:39 PM   #32 
  - No, just take the fat kids away from the parents  Broderick   Sep-14-11 02:40 PM   #33 
  - Smoking in a condo/apartment creates a nuisance  taught_me_patience   Sep-14-11 02:44 PM   #34 
     - I have lived in apartments and others smoking never affected me.  sarcasmo   Sep-14-11 04:16 PM   #37 
     - I live in a 100 year old vintage condo building.  Hassin Bin Sober   Sep-14-11 05:02 PM   #45 
     - equals a pack a day:  amborin   Sep-15-11 01:14 AM   #114 
        - actually your non sourced article claims one cigarette a day - not one pack  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-15-11 03:04 AM   #120 
  - The anti-smoking Nazis have now crossed the line. When you dictate what people do in their  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-14-11 04:41 PM   #41 
  - +1000000000  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-14-11 05:32 PM   #53 
  - Yep.  krabigirl   Sep-14-11 06:57 PM   #74 
  - agreed  ibegurpard   Sep-14-11 07:53 PM   #82 
  - This is fascism. A condo is owned in Fee Simple.  NutmegYankee   Sep-14-11 05:06 PM   #46 
  - You do not have a legal right to cause a nuisance to your neighbors  taught_me_patience   Sep-14-11 05:20 PM   #50 
     - Your neighbor hates the smell of the food you cook. Your neighbor smells your farts next door.  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-14-11 05:40 PM   #55 
     - Smoking in ones home doesn't create a nuisance.  NutmegYankee   Sep-14-11 05:46 PM   #57 
        - So if I don't like cigarette smoke... buy the condo?  taught_me_patience   Sep-14-11 05:55 PM   #62 
           - You misrepresent the point...  NutmegYankee   Sep-14-11 09:14 PM   #92 
  - That's going too far  WolverineDG   Sep-14-11 05:19 PM   #49 
  - Good. Maybe the majority of non-smokers won't have that poisonous air seeping in now.  Arugula Latte   Sep-14-11 05:50 PM   #59 
  - No, but you'll still be breathing the car pollution every damn day you wander out in public.  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-14-11 06:08 PM   #64 
     - Maybe that poster lives in an area where people don't use cars  taterguy   Sep-14-11 06:09 PM   #66 
        - Riiiiiiiiight.  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-14-11 06:42 PM   #71 
        - And where exactly might such a place be in Sonoma County? NT  Llewlladdwr   Sep-15-11 02:23 PM   #139 
  - I'm an admitted Anti Smoking Nazi.  YellowRubberDuckie   Sep-14-11 05:52 PM   #61 
  - What's that got to do with other people dictating what people do in their own homes?  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-14-11 06:09 PM   #65 
     - Your rights end where someone else's begin.  YellowRubberDuckie   Sep-14-11 07:02 PM   #75 
        - oh BS  ibegurpard   Sep-14-11 07:55 PM   #83 
        - Not me....  YellowRubberDuckie   Sep-15-11 07:01 PM   #147 
        - That Kanye comment perfectly describes the asshole in the apartment below me.  Odin2005   Sep-15-11 12:12 PM   #135 
  - I think the government should tell everybody what to do all the time  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-14-11 06:15 PM   #67 
  - Good.  Lucian   Sep-14-11 06:25 PM   #69 
  - So you want to see people not have any freedom in their own homes?  socialshockwave   Sep-14-11 06:45 PM   #72 
     - No...  Lucian   Sep-14-11 07:29 PM   #79 
     - oh nonsense, you are not gagging every time someone in another apartment is smoking nor is smoke fro...  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-14-11 07:44 PM   #80 
        - Um, yeah, just ignore the mountains of evidence that secondhand smoke is bad for you.  Lucian   Sep-14-11 07:55 PM   #84 
        - there is not a single shred of evidence that minute amounts of smokes coming from a distance away in  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-14-11 08:03 PM   #87 
           - Oh yeah. I'm "tyrannical" now because I want clean air.  Lucian   Sep-14-11 08:07 PM   #89 
              - you are right. I'm not going to change your mind and you are not going to push other people around  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-14-11 09:15 PM   #93 
              - But is authoritarianism the de facto liberal manner of achieving change?  ElboRuum   Sep-14-11 11:49 PM   #103 
                 - I believe in choice when it doesn't negatively affect other individuals.  Lucian   Sep-14-11 11:53 PM   #106 
                    - Oh, good gravy.  ElboRuum   Sep-15-11 12:43 AM   #110 
                       - Okay...  Lucian   Sep-15-11 12:51 AM   #111 
                          - No.  ElboRuum   Sep-15-11 01:10 AM   #112 
                          - Holy sophistry Batman!  NutmegYankee   Sep-15-11 04:23 AM   #124 
                          - Associating smoking in your 'own home' with killing, raping? Really???  polly7   Sep-15-11 12:05 PM   #134 
        - Under some circumstances, it is.  AnnieBW   Sep-14-11 10:29 PM   #100 
        - in some circumstances it may very well be the case  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-14-11 11:46 PM   #102 
        - I like how you know how other posters react to cigarette smoke  taught_me_patience   Sep-15-11 12:01 AM   #108 
     - Belching is not a class A Carcinogen.  CaliforniaPeggy   Sep-14-11 08:06 PM   #88 
     - Bing meet go. nt  laundry_queen   Sep-14-11 11:53 PM   #105 
     - People never did have any freedom in their own homes.  laundry_queen   Sep-14-11 11:52 PM   #104 
        - False Equivalence.  ElboRuum   Sep-15-11 02:47 AM   #119 
           - whoosh!  laundry_queen   Sep-15-11 03:57 PM   #144 
  - Great news....one by one the excuses to keep smoking fall by the wayside....  Tikki   Sep-14-11 07:12 PM   #76 
  - The sad reality, the boondoggle of tobacco  Broderick   Sep-14-11 07:15 PM   #77 
  - there are a lot of things that you SHOULDN'T do  ibegurpard   Sep-14-11 07:57 PM   #85 
  - da fuck?  BarakaFlakaFlame   Sep-14-11 07:19 PM   #78 
  - Along with the foie gras ban, more lunacy from CA.  GoneOffShore   Sep-14-11 09:03 PM   #90 
  - This is lunacy:  Arugula Latte   Sep-14-11 09:20 PM   #94 
  - Well, if the complexes are big enough...  pipi_k   Sep-14-11 09:08 PM   #91 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-14-11 10:21 PM   #97 
  - ...  ScreamingMeemie   Sep-15-11 12:06 AM   #109 
  - Just tobacco, or weed too?  TransitJohn   Sep-14-11 10:24 PM   #98 
  - Good. When your neighbors smoke it is a nuisance.  Manifestor_of_Light   Sep-14-11 11:55 PM   #107 
  - This is BULLSHIT  Tx4obama   Sep-15-11 03:16 AM   #121 
  - When I was growing up ....  Tx4obama   Sep-15-11 03:55 AM   #123 
  - same here. I fear America is becoming a nation of cry babies, whiners and professional tattle tales  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-15-11 05:08 AM   #126 
  - Times change.  taught_me_patience   Sep-15-11 11:27 AM   #129 
  - And when I was growing up, it was legal to ride in cars without seat belts or air bags. nt  raccoon   Sep-15-11 03:34 PM   #143 
  - But they still require 2 parking spaces per unit - wonder that they don't  BR_Parkway   Sep-15-11 05:01 AM   #125 
  - Don't care about the smoking - but am worried about fires in apartments  leftyladyfrommo   Sep-15-11 05:23 AM   #127 
  - It's kind of pointless since it's totally unenforceable  chrisa   Sep-15-11 11:49 AM   #131 
  - This is idiotic. I support PUBLIC bans, but I don't give a damn if you smoke in your own home.  Odin2005   Sep-15-11 11:57 AM   #132 
  - Good rule  workinclasszero   Sep-15-11 01:54 PM   #138 
  - Wish my county would do that, but that'll never happen. nt  raccoon   Sep-15-11 03:23 PM   #141 
  - The health care industry will be in you're fridge next.  sarcasmo   Sep-15-11 04:06 PM   #146 
 

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