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WingDinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 01:11 PM
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11. And if you have COPD, or heart failure, or ?, suffer fool. Get an oxygen concentrator, you traitor.
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  -Sonoma County bans smoking in apartments and condos The Straight Story  Sep-14-11 12:49 PM   #0 
  - I am sure there is a lot of support for this here  Broderick   Sep-14-11 12:50 PM   #1 
  - Nor I.  TheWraith   Sep-14-11 12:52 PM   #2 
     - Next thing they will want to do is make certain things that go  Broderick   Sep-14-11 01:02 PM   #8 
     - And if you have COPD, or heart failure, or ?, suffer fool. Get an oxygen concentrator, you traitor.  WingDinger   Sep-14-11 01:11 PM   #11 
        - LOL  Broderick   Sep-14-11 01:14 PM   #13 
           - I dont like my fats crossdressing.  WingDinger   Sep-14-11 03:17 PM   #35 
              - At least you won't be tempted by a happy meal  Broderick   Sep-14-11 04:35 PM   #40 
              - I prefer the GAY meal, not just happy.  WingDinger   Sep-14-11 05:06 PM   #47 
              - DUzy!  Odin2005   Sep-15-11 11:58 AM   #133 
     - even if it harms others? it equals a pack a day  amborin   Sep-15-11 01:16 AM   #115 
     - Er, I believe that you are in error...  ElboRuum   Sep-15-11 02:22 AM   #116 
        - you're right, i was wrong; duh, should not post when half asleep  amborin   Sep-15-11 10:18 PM   #149 
     - Except if you are in an apartment, smoke doesn't always stay just in the apartment of the smokers.  raccoon   Sep-15-11 03:24 PM   #142 
  - This is awesome  taught_me_patience   Sep-14-11 12:56 PM   #3 
  - shut your window...  snooper2   Sep-14-11 01:00 PM   #5 
  - The next-door, pack-a-day smoker had nothing to do with a window  Missy Vixen   Sep-14-11 01:12 PM   #12 
  - This will be challenged in court and...If the condo is owned..  mrmpa   Sep-14-11 03:39 PM   #36 
  - Did you not read my previous comments?  Missy Vixen   Sep-14-11 04:51 PM   #44 
     - yeagh, I did...................but you say nothing about .....  mrmpa   Sep-14-11 06:46 PM   #73 
        - Frankly, I don't understand what you're driving at  Missy Vixen   Sep-14-11 07:51 PM   #81 
           - Read & comprehend....  mrmpa   Sep-14-11 10:24 PM   #99 
              - Considering the fact you didn't comprehend my opening comments,  Missy Vixen   Sep-15-11 12:46 PM   #136 
  - Did you know that some cases of lung cancer are NOT caused by smoking?  Bake   Sep-14-11 05:27 PM   #52 
     - And your point?  Missy Vixen   Sep-14-11 07:58 PM   #86 
        - Actually, that's a very good question you ask.  ElboRuum   Sep-15-11 02:34 AM   #117 
  - I suppose you wouldn't object if I pissed in your drinking water then?  Bandit   Sep-14-11 01:18 PM   #15 
  - You could give it a shot...  snooper2   Sep-14-11 01:21 PM   #18 
  - Thanks for admitting smoking on a balcony creates a nuisance  taught_me_patience   Sep-14-11 01:34 PM   #21 
  - Well, depends on what is being burned whether it's a nuisance  snooper2   Sep-14-11 02:15 PM   #28 
  - Oh for G-d sakes. You are fucking ridiculous.. NO ONE who has been exposed to 3 seconds worth of  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-14-11 04:33 PM   #39 
     - Your argument is bullshit on every level  taught_me_patience   Sep-14-11 05:17 PM   #48 
        - Smoke wafting into your airspace from your neighbors is NOT going to give you cancer.  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-14-11 05:44 PM   #56 
           - You are waaay overconfident.  Arugula Latte   Sep-14-11 05:52 PM   #60 
              - Maybe if you're sitting in the damn room day after day, year after year, but  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-14-11 06:05 PM   #63 
                 - Indiana Univ Says 2nd hand smoke in apt = smoking a pack a day  amborin   Sep-15-11 01:13 AM   #113 
                    - Misquoted. Refer to #116.  ElboRuum   Sep-15-11 02:38 AM   #118 
                    - that none sourced article claims one cigarette a day - not one pack  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-15-11 03:21 AM   #122 
                       - you're right; my bad;  amborin   Sep-15-11 10:16 PM   #148 
  - Um, there's loads and loads of scientific proof that cigarette smoking DOES pollute the air.  Lucian   Sep-14-11 06:27 PM   #70 
  - I assume you also want to ban cars anywhere near your home.  former9thward   Sep-14-11 01:34 PM   #22 
  - If I woke up in the muddle of the night with exhaust fumes wafting in my condo I would evacuate.  Hassin Bin Sober   Sep-14-11 10:12 PM   #96 
     - The carbon monoxide and particulate matter is odorless.  former9thward   Sep-14-11 11:15 PM   #101 
        - Bullshit. Unless you live above a garage.  Hassin Bin Sober   Sep-15-11 11:16 AM   #128 
           - You know zero about the mechanics of air pollution.  former9thward   Sep-15-11 11:46 AM   #130 
              - LOL. Says the second-hand-smoke danger denier.  Hassin Bin Sober   Sep-15-11 01:26 PM   #137 
  - It is, but you're getting a lot of pushback from the addicts commenting here..nt  joeybee12   Sep-14-11 01:35 PM   #23 
  - I don't smoke, yet I think this is a load of crap.  Throd   Sep-14-11 01:50 PM   #27 
  - Are we talking about the same Long Beach bounded by the port, the 405, the 710, and the 605?  Throd   Sep-14-11 02:38 PM   #30 
  - Let me play Devil's Advocate here...  KansDem   Sep-14-11 12:59 PM   #4 
  - That's a choice the consumer should be making  RZM   Sep-14-11 01:06 PM   #9 
  - I know of incidents where a "pet deposit" was required.  KansDem   Sep-14-11 01:16 PM   #14 
     - I don't know if I would support that or not  RZM   Sep-14-11 01:26 PM   #20 
  - A $200 OZONE machine would kill any and all remnants of cigarette smoke. It would disintegrate it.  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-14-11 04:28 PM   #38 
     - No it won't. We used to use those on a car lot where I worked.  Hassin Bin Sober   Sep-14-11 04:42 PM   #42 
     - Bullshit. You just didn't have a powerful enough Ozone machine then.  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-14-11 05:35 PM   #54 
        - LOL. How "powerful" does it have to be?  Hassin Bin Sober   Sep-14-11 10:06 PM   #95 
     - No, it won't.  LeftyMom   Sep-14-11 06:23 PM   #68 
  - What a bunch of shit  RZM   Sep-14-11 01:01 PM   #6 
  - Shouldn't something like that be at the discretion of landlords/apt. building owners?  LeftinOH   Sep-14-11 01:02 PM   #7 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-14-11 01:20 PM   #17 
  - If you do that, they may make the wrong choice. nt  Recovered Repug   Sep-14-11 01:41 PM   #25 
  - Yikes  NeedleCast   Sep-14-11 01:08 PM   #10 
  - Hopefully they exempt Pot!  Broderick   Sep-14-11 01:19 PM   #16 
  - I tend to suspect that if this law singled out pot - many people applauding it would be against it  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-14-11 05:49 PM   #58 
  - I have bronchitis from second hand smoke now...  sfpcjock   Sep-14-11 01:23 PM   #19 
  - One day we'll live in a society where, by law, no one is allowed to upset anyone else.  Rageneau   Sep-14-11 01:39 PM   #24 
  - A condo association should be able to ban smoking in condos  AmericaIsGreat   Sep-14-11 01:44 PM   #26 
  - Condo associations are in charge of common areas  taught_me_patience   Sep-14-11 02:35 PM   #29 
     - If they can ban pets, they can ban smoking.  Hassin Bin Sober   Sep-14-11 04:43 PM   #43 
        - In california, they cannot ban pets.  taught_me_patience   Sep-14-11 05:23 PM   #51 
        - So can busybodies who want to interfere with other's rights.  former9thward   Sep-15-11 03:12 PM   #140 
           - Don't worry. I wouldn't want to be around your cigarette stench.  Hassin Bin Sober   Sep-15-11 04:04 PM   #145 
  - Cool! WIth all the medical marijuana patients here  raouldukelives   Sep-14-11 02:38 PM   #31 
  - When will it stop, no eating chocolate if you are 5 lbs over weight?  sarcasmo   Sep-14-11 02:39 PM   #32 
  - No, just take the fat kids away from the parents  Broderick   Sep-14-11 02:40 PM   #33 
  - Smoking in a condo/apartment creates a nuisance  taught_me_patience   Sep-14-11 02:44 PM   #34 
     - I have lived in apartments and others smoking never affected me.  sarcasmo   Sep-14-11 04:16 PM   #37 
     - I live in a 100 year old vintage condo building.  Hassin Bin Sober   Sep-14-11 05:02 PM   #45 
     - equals a pack a day:  amborin   Sep-15-11 01:14 AM   #114 
        - actually your non sourced article claims one cigarette a day - not one pack  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-15-11 03:04 AM   #120 
  - The anti-smoking Nazis have now crossed the line. When you dictate what people do in their  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-14-11 04:41 PM   #41 
  - +1000000000  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-14-11 05:32 PM   #53 
  - Yep.  krabigirl   Sep-14-11 06:57 PM   #74 
  - agreed  ibegurpard   Sep-14-11 07:53 PM   #82 
  - This is fascism. A condo is owned in Fee Simple.  NutmegYankee   Sep-14-11 05:06 PM   #46 
  - You do not have a legal right to cause a nuisance to your neighbors  taught_me_patience   Sep-14-11 05:20 PM   #50 
     - Your neighbor hates the smell of the food you cook. Your neighbor smells your farts next door.  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-14-11 05:40 PM   #55 
     - Smoking in ones home doesn't create a nuisance.  NutmegYankee   Sep-14-11 05:46 PM   #57 
        - So if I don't like cigarette smoke... buy the condo?  taught_me_patience   Sep-14-11 05:55 PM   #62 
           - You misrepresent the point...  NutmegYankee   Sep-14-11 09:14 PM   #92 
  - That's going too far  WolverineDG   Sep-14-11 05:19 PM   #49 
  - Good. Maybe the majority of non-smokers won't have that poisonous air seeping in now.  Arugula Latte   Sep-14-11 05:50 PM   #59 
  - No, but you'll still be breathing the car pollution every damn day you wander out in public.  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-14-11 06:08 PM   #64 
     - Maybe that poster lives in an area where people don't use cars  taterguy   Sep-14-11 06:09 PM   #66 
        - Riiiiiiiiight.  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-14-11 06:42 PM   #71 
        - And where exactly might such a place be in Sonoma County? NT  Llewlladdwr   Sep-15-11 02:23 PM   #139 
  - I'm an admitted Anti Smoking Nazi.  YellowRubberDuckie   Sep-14-11 05:52 PM   #61 
  - What's that got to do with other people dictating what people do in their own homes?  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-14-11 06:09 PM   #65 
     - Your rights end where someone else's begin.  YellowRubberDuckie   Sep-14-11 07:02 PM   #75 
        - oh BS  ibegurpard   Sep-14-11 07:55 PM   #83 
        - Not me....  YellowRubberDuckie   Sep-15-11 07:01 PM   #147 
        - That Kanye comment perfectly describes the asshole in the apartment below me.  Odin2005   Sep-15-11 12:12 PM   #135 
  - I think the government should tell everybody what to do all the time  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-14-11 06:15 PM   #67 
  - Good.  Lucian   Sep-14-11 06:25 PM   #69 
  - So you want to see people not have any freedom in their own homes?  socialshockwave   Sep-14-11 06:45 PM   #72 
     - No...  Lucian   Sep-14-11 07:29 PM   #79 
     - oh nonsense, you are not gagging every time someone in another apartment is smoking nor is smoke fro...  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-14-11 07:44 PM   #80 
        - Um, yeah, just ignore the mountains of evidence that secondhand smoke is bad for you.  Lucian   Sep-14-11 07:55 PM   #84 
        - there is not a single shred of evidence that minute amounts of smokes coming from a distance away in  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-14-11 08:03 PM   #87 
           - Oh yeah. I'm "tyrannical" now because I want clean air.  Lucian   Sep-14-11 08:07 PM   #89 
              - you are right. I'm not going to change your mind and you are not going to push other people around  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-14-11 09:15 PM   #93 
              - But is authoritarianism the de facto liberal manner of achieving change?  ElboRuum   Sep-14-11 11:49 PM   #103 
                 - I believe in choice when it doesn't negatively affect other individuals.  Lucian   Sep-14-11 11:53 PM   #106 
                    - Oh, good gravy.  ElboRuum   Sep-15-11 12:43 AM   #110 
                       - Okay...  Lucian   Sep-15-11 12:51 AM   #111 
                          - No.  ElboRuum   Sep-15-11 01:10 AM   #112 
                          - Holy sophistry Batman!  NutmegYankee   Sep-15-11 04:23 AM   #124 
                          - Associating smoking in your 'own home' with killing, raping? Really???  polly7   Sep-15-11 12:05 PM   #134 
        - Under some circumstances, it is.  AnnieBW   Sep-14-11 10:29 PM   #100 
        - in some circumstances it may very well be the case  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-14-11 11:46 PM   #102 
        - I like how you know how other posters react to cigarette smoke  taught_me_patience   Sep-15-11 12:01 AM   #108 
     - Belching is not a class A Carcinogen.  CaliforniaPeggy   Sep-14-11 08:06 PM   #88 
     - Bing meet go. nt  laundry_queen   Sep-14-11 11:53 PM   #105 
     - People never did have any freedom in their own homes.  laundry_queen   Sep-14-11 11:52 PM   #104 
        - False Equivalence.  ElboRuum   Sep-15-11 02:47 AM   #119 
           - whoosh!  laundry_queen   Sep-15-11 03:57 PM   #144 
  - Great by one the excuses to keep smoking fall by the wayside....  Tikki   Sep-14-11 07:12 PM   #76 
  - The sad reality, the boondoggle of tobacco  Broderick   Sep-14-11 07:15 PM   #77 
  - there are a lot of things that you SHOULDN'T do  ibegurpard   Sep-14-11 07:57 PM   #85 
  - da fuck?  BarakaFlakaFlame   Sep-14-11 07:19 PM   #78 
  - Along with the foie gras ban, more lunacy from CA.  GoneOffShore   Sep-14-11 09:03 PM   #90 
  - This is lunacy:  Arugula Latte   Sep-14-11 09:20 PM   #94 
  - Well, if the complexes are big enough...  pipi_k   Sep-14-11 09:08 PM   #91 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-14-11 10:21 PM   #97 
  - ...  ScreamingMeemie   Sep-15-11 12:06 AM   #109 
  - Just tobacco, or weed too?  TransitJohn   Sep-14-11 10:24 PM   #98 
  - Good. When your neighbors smoke it is a nuisance.  Manifestor_of_Light   Sep-14-11 11:55 PM   #107 
  - This is BULLSHIT  Tx4obama   Sep-15-11 03:16 AM   #121 
  - When I was growing up ....  Tx4obama   Sep-15-11 03:55 AM   #123 
  - same here. I fear America is becoming a nation of cry babies, whiners and professional tattle tales  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-15-11 05:08 AM   #126 
  - Times change.  taught_me_patience   Sep-15-11 11:27 AM   #129 
  - And when I was growing up, it was legal to ride in cars without seat belts or air bags. nt  raccoon   Sep-15-11 03:34 PM   #143 
  - But they still require 2 parking spaces per unit - wonder that they don't  BR_Parkway   Sep-15-11 05:01 AM   #125 
  - Don't care about the smoking - but am worried about fires in apartments  leftyladyfrommo   Sep-15-11 05:23 AM   #127 
  - It's kind of pointless since it's totally unenforceable  chrisa   Sep-15-11 11:49 AM   #131 
  - This is idiotic. I support PUBLIC bans, but I don't give a damn if you smoke in your own home.  Odin2005   Sep-15-11 11:57 AM   #132 
  - Good rule  workinclasszero   Sep-15-11 01:54 PM   #138 
  - Wish my county would do that, but that'll never happen. nt  raccoon   Sep-15-11 03:23 PM   #141 
  - The health care industry will be in you're fridge next.  sarcasmo   Sep-15-11 04:06 PM   #146 

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