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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 06:42 PM
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17. He doesn't care, independants are going to make up the difference
and take the place of any lost progressives.
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  -Does the President realize how close he is to losing his progressive base? kentuck  Sep-12-11 06:28 PM   #0 
  - Jesus effing Christ. That sentiment has been posted ad nauseum here for 2 years. Nt  DevonRex   Sep-12-11 06:30 PM   #1 
  - Yeah, haven't you learned that the answer is "Not Really..."? /nt  demwing   Sep-12-11 07:45 PM   #53 
  - Do 'these progressives' realize the damage 'falling off' would do???  elleng   Sep-12-11 06:31 PM   #2 
  - the left is not the group you should worry about...  awoke_in_2003   Sep-12-11 08:00 PM   #59 
     - So it makes more sense  kctim   Sep-13-11 09:23 AM   #94 
        - It makes no sense  Mr Deltoid   Sep-13-11 10:19 AM   #105 
        - No  kctim   Sep-13-11 10:38 AM   #109 
           - There is no such thing as the 'moderate majority'  Mr Deltoid   Sep-13-11 07:07 PM   #124 
        - The far left minority...  awoke_in_2003   Sep-13-11 05:01 PM   #112 
  - Not this progressive  frazzled   Sep-12-11 06:32 PM   #3 
  - since the speech, the Prez's positives have gone down a point  demwing   Sep-12-11 07:46 PM   #54 
  - The FireDogLake crowd are still bitter, and are insignificant  snooper2   Sep-13-11 09:15 AM   #92 
  - Did you realize he wants to tax the rich to pay off our social security tax tab this coming year?  dkf   Sep-12-11 06:34 PM   #4 
  - I posted this today, I see others have too. Sunk like a stone. nt  sufrommich   Sep-12-11 06:41 PM   #14 
  - Which makes one wonder what people thought happened with the cut this year.  dkf   Sep-12-11 07:11 PM   #39 
  - Do you seriously think the Republican-led Boehner/Cantor group  sad sally   Sep-12-11 09:27 PM   #71 
  - And God wants us to all be happy.  sudopod   Sep-12-11 10:37 PM   #75 
  - Link, please? n/t  Mimosa   Sep-13-11 06:26 PM   #115 
  - This again?  jaxx   Sep-12-11 06:34 PM   #5 
  - I don't think many are close to leaving, many are already gone  MadHound   Sep-12-11 06:35 PM   #6 
  - Where have all the progressives gone?  Cirque du So-What   Sep-12-11 06:37 PM   #10 
  - Given his still 84% approval rating among liberal Democrats, apparently not many.  TheWraith   Sep-12-11 06:38 PM   #11 
  - Ah, still posting outdated material I see  MadHound   Sep-12-11 06:44 PM   #19 
  - You post a link from JULY and you have the nerve to call Wraith's info "outdated?"  Number23   Sep-12-11 06:51 PM   #24 
     - Certainly more up to date that the Wraith's figure  MadHound   Sep-12-11 06:57 PM   #25 
        - Actually no, it's from two weeks ago. Care to spin again?  TheWraith   Sep-12-11 07:00 PM   #29 
           - Got a link? n/t  MadHound   Sep-12-11 07:01 PM   #30 
              - It's right there on Gallup's site.  TheWraith   Sep-12-11 07:02 PM   #32 
                 - Perhaps you need to check your own link  MadHound   Sep-12-11 07:08 PM   #35 
                    - Wraith clearly said liberal democrats in post 11...nt  SidDithers   Sep-12-11 07:11 PM   #38 
                       - Yes, he did, and his number was wrong and out of date  MadHound   Sep-12-11 07:12 PM   #40 
                          - Keep trying to spin it away. That number has been solid as a rock for months.  TheWraith   Sep-12-11 07:15 PM   #42 
  - Think about how meaningless that statistic really is  ThomWV   Sep-12-11 06:45 PM   #22 
     - Little problem: your theory doesn't match actual reality.  TheWraith   Sep-12-11 06:58 PM   #27 
        - So you are saying that the more liberal a Democrat is the less "progressive" they are?  ThomWV   Sep-12-11 07:00 PM   #28 
           - Try that again, please, this time in some way that's comprehensible.  TheWraith   Sep-12-11 07:02 PM   #31 
           - No, no non-negligible number of progressives have left the party. Denying that doesn't  BzaDem   Sep-12-11 07:47 PM   #55 
  - HE is going to lose?  elleng   Sep-12-11 08:36 PM   #63 
  - "Progressives are hesitant to criticize this President" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA  TheWraith   Sep-12-11 06:36 PM   #7 
  - +10000  treestar   Sep-12-11 09:06 PM   #67 
  - No, but 'progressives' on DU have been saying this since he was elected.  book_worm   Sep-12-11 06:36 PM   #8 
  - I don't think that is true at all. Progressives gave him time  ThomWV   Sep-12-11 06:50 PM   #23 
  - nah, he knows and is gambling that it won't matter  fascisthunter   Sep-12-11 06:36 PM   #9 
  - Judging by the polls, not close at all. nt  sufrommich   Sep-12-11 06:39 PM   #12 
  - I don't believe so.  H2O Man   Sep-12-11 06:39 PM   #13 
  - And I think from Obama's context  Solomon   Sep-12-11 07:34 PM   #50 
  - Kentuck: He doesn't care. Progressives aren't his base and aren't what he's aiming for.  Poll_Blind   Sep-12-11 06:41 PM   #15 
  - He totally lost me with those right wing free trade deals. . .  B Calm   Sep-12-11 06:41 PM   #16 
  - He doesn't care, independants are going to make up the difference  Raine   Sep-12-11 06:42 PM   #17 
  - Obama's polls among independents mirror those among republcians  Mr Deltoid   Sep-13-11 10:26 AM   #106 
  - You certainly have your work cut out for yourself. Finding a suitable candidate  teddy51   Sep-12-11 06:43 PM   #18 
  - so if his so called base stays home we  DesertFlower   Sep-12-11 06:44 PM   #20 
  - Who says we're staying home?  Le Taz Hot   Sep-12-11 07:13 PM   #41 
     - sometimes i worry with what i read here.  DesertFlower   Sep-12-11 07:41 PM   #51 
        - We not only vote but we're the activists.  Le Taz Hot   Sep-12-11 09:44 PM   #72 
        - so does that mean you won't be voting for obama?  DesertFlower   Sep-12-11 10:35 PM   #74 
        - Cute. n/t  Le Taz Hot   Sep-13-11 03:55 AM   #80 
           - great answer.  DesertFlower   Sep-13-11 05:11 AM   #82 
              - Thanks!  Le Taz Hot   Sep-13-11 05:16 AM   #83 
        - Numbers aren't on your side...FYI  snooper2   Sep-13-11 09:28 AM   #96 
           - What "side" is that?  Le Taz Hot   Sep-13-11 09:30 AM   #97 
              - The FireDogLake crowd...The folks who post from wsws.org  snooper2   Sep-13-11 09:39 AM   #99 
                 - I've never been to either of those sites.  Le Taz Hot   Sep-13-11 09:45 AM   #100 
                 - I have never been to the site wsws.org and have been at links  PufPuf23   Sep-13-11 10:07 PM   #126 
        - You shouldn't...there are only about 5000-10,000 unique posters  snooper2   Sep-13-11 09:25 AM   #95 
  - They have often signaled that they don't care, the base is for punching to impress indies. nt  Dragonfli   Sep-12-11 06:44 PM   #21 
  - He can lose his base only so often...  SidDithers   Sep-12-11 06:57 PM   #26 
  - The "progressives" left a long time ago.  MineralMan   Sep-12-11 07:03 PM   #33 
  - You should take the quotes off "Progressives" and put it on your "Democrats".  Bonobo   Sep-12-11 07:07 PM   #34 
  - I "should," eh? You know, I'm perfectly capable of thinking for  MineralMan   Sep-12-11 07:09 PM   #36 
     - My posts are my opinion and you are free to take or leave my advice.  Bonobo   Sep-12-11 07:22 PM   #46 
        - I'm also free to reply to your post with my own opinion, which I did.  MineralMan   Sep-13-11 07:47 AM   #84 
  - Respectfully & strongly disagree.  H2O Man   Sep-12-11 07:19 PM   #45 
  - Nothing you do for the party will be effective if Obama doesn't win. We can elect veto proof  BzaDem   Sep-12-11 07:56 PM   #58 
     - Again, I respectfully disagree.  H2O Man   Sep-12-11 09:08 PM   #69 
  - Seems light on truth, plenty of us where on and/or leading the bandwagon.  TheKentuckian   Sep-12-11 07:53 PM   #57 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-12-11 07:10 PM   #37 
  - Why lie? What does it bring you?  FrenchieCat   Sep-12-11 07:19 PM   #44 
  - It's not much of a leap at all to take someone who goes on Fox to brag  EFerrari   Sep-12-11 07:26 PM   #47 
  - Keep telling that lie..  SidDithers   Sep-12-11 07:31 PM   #49 
  - This administration has continued many of junior's  indepat   Sep-12-11 07:18 PM   #43 
  - Dear Kentuck, About "his base."  tblue   Sep-12-11 07:28 PM   #48 
  - Utter  ProSense   Sep-12-11 07:44 PM   #52 
  - Where do you get the idea that the base is close to not supporting Obama? The data shows a higher  BzaDem   Sep-12-11 07:49 PM   #56 
  - Define "base". nt  TBF   Sep-12-11 08:01 PM   #60 
     - Look at any metric.  BzaDem   Sep-12-11 08:06 PM   #61 
  - It's not the fact that he's running against his base that's stupid  jeff47   Sep-12-11 08:34 PM   #62 
  - Depends on what you mean by losing support...  jimlup   Sep-12-11 08:38 PM   #64 
  - 80%$$$$$$of his Liberal Base Support this President. It's the latest Polls...  KoKo   Sep-12-11 08:48 PM   #65 
  - I thought it was already lost?  treestar   Sep-12-11 09:04 PM   #66 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-12-11 09:06 PM   #68 
  - Obama step down... if you dont respect yourself..at least save the Dem Party  lib2DaBone   Sep-12-11 09:09 PM   #70 
  - I know what I hear in real life  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-12-11 09:57 PM   #73 
  - Personally, I don't much care about the 'motivators' as much as keeping the GOP  CakeGrrl   Sep-12-11 10:42 PM   #76 
  - same here  amborin   Sep-12-11 10:58 PM   #78 
  - Yes..in real life..people are not happy ..with the wars, with the economy, jobs, tar sands  xiamiam   Sep-13-11 12:16 AM   #79 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-13-11 10:02 AM   #101 
  - they probably watch too much tv. 'cavers' is a dead giveaway.  Whisp   Sep-13-11 06:44 PM   #120 
  - These aren't people who who watch Fox or much TV at all  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-14-11 09:27 AM   #128 
  - That is my experience, as well...  Robeson   Sep-14-11 09:55 AM   #130 
     - Right, compared to the red-hot enthusiasm of 2008, the responses of Dems  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-14-11 10:27 AM   #131 
  - When I Saw the Post Headline I Already Knew The Writer Was  Indykatie   Sep-12-11 10:51 PM   #77 
  - NO progressive believes in FICA cuts.  Le Taz Hot   Sep-13-11 04:03 AM   #81 
  - no one should support cuts to FICA especially  DesertFlower   Sep-13-11 08:44 AM   #90 
  - I think there is some great misconception as to what a "Progressive" stands for.  NorthCarolina   Sep-13-11 08:05 AM   #85 
     - "Progressive" as in "Progressive Policy Institute"--a misnomer if there ever was one  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-13-11 08:16 AM   #86 
        - Proof that Conserva-Dems are simply trying to co-opt the term Progressive  NorthCarolina   Sep-13-11 08:20 AM   #89 
  - A post on DU should cost $1.95  Shagbark Hickory   Sep-13-11 08:16 AM   #87 
  - Right. "Free speech for you--if you can afford it."  Common Sense Party   Sep-13-11 09:33 AM   #98 
     - Everyone here can afford $1.95  Shagbark Hickory   Sep-13-11 10:35 AM   #108 
        - I can't, I have 67 cents to my name and I am also in need of other things I have no money for.  Dragonfli   Sep-13-11 05:29 PM   #113 
        - ...  Shagbark Hickory   Sep-13-11 06:01 PM   #114 
        - Sounds like something a Republican might say. n/t  Mimosa   Sep-13-11 06:27 PM   #116 
           - I definitely do think replies should be free!  Shagbark Hickory   Sep-13-11 07:33 PM   #125 
  - The bigger problem  BlueIris   Sep-13-11 08:19 AM   #88 
  - He's not getting re-elected so it's rather useless at this point.  Safetykitten   Sep-13-11 08:47 AM   #91 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-13-11 09:20 AM   #93 
  - so now after all else will that be the new strategy?  SwampG8r   Sep-13-11 10:09 AM   #102 
  - IMO  Mr Dixon   Sep-13-11 10:14 AM   #103 
  - Coming from you, kentuck, this means something.  Octafish   Sep-13-11 10:17 AM   #104 
  - He hasn't lost my support or vote.  HappyMe   Sep-13-11 10:27 AM   #107 
  - I am about as far left as one can get and I have reached the point where I no longer care.  Bandit   Sep-13-11 11:14 AM   #110 
  - He lost progressives long ago.  girl gone mad   Sep-13-11 01:22 PM   #111 
  - wait a minute: you actually think posts on DU are relevant re whether or not  cali   Sep-13-11 06:30 PM   #117 
     - What's relevant is that the President has failed to bring meaningful, positive change.  girl gone mad   Sep-13-11 06:54 PM   #123 
        - How is something that is false relevant to anything?  BzaDem   Sep-13-11 10:12 PM   #127 
  - buh bye! to all those 'progressives'  Whisp   Sep-13-11 06:32 PM   #118 
  - I'm happy ...  kentuck   Sep-13-11 06:38 PM   #119 
     - and I am elated you are happy  Whisp   Sep-13-11 06:46 PM   #121 
        - We must all be Democrats...  kentuck   Sep-13-11 06:49 PM   #122 
  - Losing? How 'bout LOST. He was losing it way back during the health care debate.  NoodleyAppendage   Sep-14-11 09:32 AM   #129 
  - to who?.....nt  Evasporque   Sep-14-11 10:30 AM   #132 
  - The minute a real progressive democrat steps up to the plate  randr   Sep-14-11 10:31 AM   #133 
 

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