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68. Yes and I am part of that middle. I do not like bullies, no matter which
Edited on Thu Sep-08-11 06:34 PM by sabrina 1
side of the aisle they are sitting on. And I think that makes me part of a majority of Americans. Most people are not divided into left or right. Those are false labels accepted only because we are limited to two parties so two boxes have been provided to conveniently but falsely drop people into.

A vast majority of people are like me. They care about the ISSUES, not the PARTY or the POLITICIANS. Since we have only two parties that are viable, people are forced into one or the other. I chose to be as Democrat because their platform aligns with my positions on issues. If and when the party does not stand up for its own stated principles, people 'in the middle' will notice and will decide what they need to do about it. As of now, the Dem Party's shift to the right lost them the 2010 election. However, they are pretending it didn't happen the way it did so have learned nothing from that loss. People who refuse to face facts and repeat failed behavior, are destined to lose again.
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  -Longshoremen storm Wash. state port, damage RR pintobean  Sep-08-11 11:44 AM   #0 
  - Well, that will give the far right plenty of ammunition.  Denninmi   Sep-08-11 11:47 AM   #1 
  - Why do we have to care about what the far right 'thinks'?  sabrina 1   Sep-08-11 02:34 PM   #17 
  - Because this country doesn't divide into far left and far right.  TheWraith   Sep-08-11 03:47 PM   #23 
  - Yes and I am part of that middle. I do not like bullies, no matter which  sabrina 1   Sep-08-11 06:33 PM   #68 
  - You did read this was one union against another didn't you?  former9thward   Sep-08-11 03:59 PM   #26 
     - See my post #71  sabrina 1   Sep-08-11 08:38 PM   #72 
  - don't be silly  Claudia Jones   Sep-08-11 04:51 PM   #32 
  - Everything gives the far right ammunition. Who gives a fuck.  readmoreoften   Sep-08-11 10:31 PM   #79 
  - The far right can shine their own ass looks like to me, union didn't give a flying fuck what CONs  lonestarnot   Sep-08-11 11:03 PM   #87 
  - Well, that will give the far right plenty of ammunition.  Denninmi   Sep-08-11 11:47 AM   #2 
  - Right -- they weren't going to destroy unions unless and until they fought back  villager   Sep-08-11 12:00 PM   #5 
  - The RW morans have alreadt started the "UNION THUGS" crap.  Odin2005   Sep-08-11 11:59 AM   #3 
  - And it feeds itself with MSM help.  Broderick   Sep-08-11 12:00 PM   #4 
  - How would you characterize them?  badtoworse   Sep-08-11 12:14 PM   #8 
     - Frustrated and angry  pintobean   Sep-08-11 12:20 PM   #9 
        - Well, someone is losing their livelihood. What about those already doing the job?  yawnmaster   Sep-08-11 04:51 PM   #31 
           - Read some more.  pintobean   Sep-08-11 04:54 PM   #34 
           - Other union laborers ?  Broderick   Sep-08-11 04:56 PM   #37 
              - They don't just "believe," they have a contract.  DrunkenBoat   Sep-08-11 09:12 PM   #75 
           - scabs.  DrunkenBoat   Sep-08-11 09:11 PM   #74 
  - And union people wonder why support for unions is declining.  badtoworse   Sep-08-11 12:12 PM   #6 
  - "union people" eh?  Bluebear   Sep-08-11 01:40 PM   #11 
  - You know.......'those' people  pintobean   Sep-08-11 02:21 PM   #15 
     - Hey, I belonged to a union once, but it didn't work out.  badtoworse   Sep-08-11 02:47 PM   #20 
        - So, you have a negative view of unions based on a few words  pintobean   Sep-08-11 03:04 PM   #21 
        - There's more to it than that.  badtoworse   Sep-08-11 03:43 PM   #22 
           - Then, maybe you should have kept your anti-union opinion to yourself  pintobean   Sep-08-11 03:51 PM   #24 
           - Solidarity!  Bluebear   Sep-08-11 04:43 PM   #27 
           - For which Union?  Broderick   Sep-08-11 04:52 PM   #33 
              - Follow the thread.  pintobean   Sep-08-11 04:56 PM   #36 
              - Refuse to engage in union bashing in general  Broderick   Sep-08-11 04:59 PM   #38 
                 - two possibilities  Claudia Jones   Sep-08-11 05:02 PM   #40 
                 - You don't work for a union  Broderick   Sep-08-11 05:05 PM   #46 
                    - you aren't making sense  Claudia Jones   Sep-08-11 05:09 PM   #51 
                       - I am not involved in the prism of who is right  Broderick   Sep-08-11 05:19 PM   #53 
                 - I'll answer your question, but you don't have to be assinine.  pintobean   Sep-08-11 05:19 PM   #54 
                    - That makes a bit of sense because I wasn't aware  Broderick   Sep-08-11 05:25 PM   #58 
                       - How do you think the Operating Engineers would react  pintobean   Sep-08-11 05:31 PM   #60 
                       - I don't know the answer to that  Broderick   Sep-08-11 05:35 PM   #61 
                       - Longshore Shipping News  Xicano   Sep-09-11 06:49 AM   #95 
                          - It says in this article that they hired NON  Broderick   Sep-09-11 10:14 AM   #99 
              - stop with this  Claudia Jones   Sep-08-11 05:01 PM   #39 
                 - Maybe the unions should join forces  Broderick   Sep-08-11 05:04 PM   #43 
                    - huh?  Claudia Jones   Sep-08-11 05:05 PM   #47 
                       - I haven't even touched on the management  Broderick   Sep-08-11 05:08 PM   #50 
           - If you believe their conduct shouldn't be condemned, then I think we're done.  badtoworse   Sep-08-11 05:13 PM   #52 
              - Those security goons weren't hurt...  MedicalAdmin   Sep-08-11 05:23 PM   #56 
              - What's indefensible?  badtoworse   Sep-08-11 05:27 PM   #59 
              - Come on now  Broderick   Sep-08-11 05:50 PM   #65 
              - No, I took issue with your attitude about unions.  pintobean   Sep-08-11 05:36 PM   #62 
                 - Wasn't meant as a personal attack; sorry if it came off that way  badtoworse   Sep-08-11 10:29 PM   #78 
                    - Unequivocally condemn?  pintobean   Sep-09-11 05:40 AM   #91 
                       - The difference isn't worth arguing about.  badtoworse   Sep-09-11 06:32 AM   #93 
                          - It's an opinion. We're all entitled to our own.  pintobean   Sep-09-11 06:51 AM   #96 
                             - Point taken, I'll try to do better.  badtoworse   Sep-09-11 07:04 AM   #98 
           - So, you are on the side of the bosses.  blindpig   Sep-08-11 03:56 PM   #25 
              - I look at each situation separately  badtoworse   Sep-08-11 04:49 PM   #28 
                 - do you apply that to your family?  Claudia Jones   Sep-08-11 04:55 PM   #35 
                 - Absolutely!  badtoworse   Sep-08-11 05:23 PM   #57 
                    - really  Claudia Jones   Sep-08-11 05:58 PM   #67 
                       - My wife doesn't vandalize property and take hostages, even on her worst days.  badtoworse   Sep-08-11 07:30 PM   #69 
                          - No, you just fuck over your fellow workers because they're "old"  readmoreoften   Sep-08-11 10:39 PM   #82 
                          - comprehension issues here, it seems  Claudia Jones   Sep-09-11 12:13 PM   #102 
                 - Which means your on the side of the bosses.  readmoreoften   Sep-08-11 10:37 PM   #81 
                    - well said  Claudia Jones   Sep-09-11 12:05 PM   #101 
        - Why don't you just join the Republicans. You are unneeded in the Democratic Party.  readmoreoften   Sep-08-11 10:34 PM   #80 
  - No any reasonable person would be ..  mrmpa   Sep-08-11 01:43 PM   #12 
  - Good luck selling that to the public - nt  badtoworse   Sep-08-11 01:51 PM   #13 
     - As part of that public, I applaud what they are doing. As do most  sabrina 1   Sep-08-11 02:40 PM   #19 
     - Taking hostages? Destroying property?  Broderick   Sep-08-11 04:51 PM   #30 
        - I think you are not familiar with this story.  sabrina 1   Sep-08-11 08:30 PM   #71 
     - you oppose that then?  Claudia Jones   Sep-08-11 05:03 PM   #42 
     - Speak for yourself.  girl gone mad   Sep-08-11 11:12 PM   #90 
  - I guess I'm not a reasonable person then. They are fighting back in  sabrina 1   Sep-08-11 02:38 PM   #18 
  - But in this case it looks like they are fighting other union workers...  yawnmaster   Sep-08-11 04:50 PM   #29 
     - You've said this repeatedly  Union Scribe   Sep-08-11 10:47 PM   #85 
  - no mystery  Claudia Jones   Sep-08-11 05:05 PM   #45 
  - Well I hope you didn't faint too hard  Union Scribe   Sep-08-11 10:45 PM   #84 
  - What would you like to see there whiney butt? You'd have them offer up their jobs to some union  lonestarnot   Sep-08-11 11:05 PM   #88 
  - Longshoremen are totally badass.  Brickbat   Sep-08-11 12:12 PM   #7 
  - Awesome job, Longshoremen=  999998th word   Sep-08-11 10:56 PM   #86 
  - The older I get, the more militant I become.  StandingInLeftField   Sep-08-11 01:39 PM   #10 
  - this has more in common with the Boston tea party of 1773 than any Koch bros BS  0rganism   Sep-08-11 01:58 PM   #14 
  - Don't fuck with Longshoremen  proud patriot   Sep-08-11 02:25 PM   #16 
  - I stand with the working class....  MedicalAdmin   Sep-08-11 05:04 PM   #44 
     - here you go  Claudia Jones   Sep-08-11 05:07 PM   #49 
        - Looks to me like the company is trying to do an end run around the union.  MedicalAdmin   Sep-08-11 05:20 PM   #55 
  - Intl Transport Workers Federation condemns detention of ILWU president  robdogbucky   Sep-08-11 05:02 PM   #41 
  - Workers volunteer to put their bodies on the line  robdogbucky   Sep-08-11 05:06 PM   #48 
  - rec..........nt  patrick t. cakes   Sep-08-11 05:45 PM   #63 
  - Gosh, there's a whole lot of concern in this thread about how this makes the union "thugs" look...  backscatter712   Sep-08-11 05:46 PM   #64 
  - On the surface - eating our own comes to mind  Broderick   Sep-08-11 05:57 PM   #66 
  - That is not the problem. The problem is Multi-national Corps  sabrina 1   Sep-08-11 08:43 PM   #73 
     - And we heard about more "free trade" tonight  Broderick   Sep-08-11 09:30 PM   #77 
  - It's good, it telegraphs ignorance of history very clearly. -nt-  DireStrike   Sep-09-11 10:31 AM   #100 
  - *clucks*  BOG PERSON   Sep-08-11 07:32 PM   #70 
  - activism & standing up for workers' rights strengthens unions; ILWU is one of the strongest  amborin   Sep-08-11 09:14 PM   #76 
  - +1  readmoreoften   Sep-08-11 10:40 PM   #83 
  - K & R!  lonestarnot   Sep-08-11 11:06 PM   #89 
  - Is vandalism by union members acting as a group considered 'union thuggery'? nt  Obamanaut   Sep-09-11 05:50 AM   #92 
     - Absolutely not!  badtoworse   Sep-09-11 06:41 AM   #94 
     - "...legitimate form of protest..." now includes derstruction of property,  Obamanaut   Sep-09-11 06:51 AM   #97 
        - Do you know why it finally got to that point?  sabrina 1   Sep-09-11 01:27 PM   #104 
     - How in the hell do you think workers got what they got(had)?  blindpig   Sep-09-11 12:50 PM   #103 

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