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truckin Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 09:16 AM
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34. I agree with everything you say. However, to play devil's
advocate, I would guess that if you could have a frank discussion with Obama he would respond like this. Job creation is the number one priority in this broken economy that he inherited and to get any kind of jobs bill through he needs to avoid some of the issues you mention. As for the drone attacks he said he would use them in Pakistan when he ran. This is a policy he clearly favors. One of the bigger disappointments to me is his stance on medical marijuana. This is a no brainer that most of the country supports. It seems to me he is afraid of being labeled as a drug loving leftist by the hard core right if he supports this. Very disappointing.

As for the voting machines I believe that no politician on the national level, other than maybe Rush Holt if you consider him to be in this category, will take on the voting machine issue. They will be labeled as conspiracy nuts and besides, even if the machines are rigged, it worked out for the elected officials. It is a sad state of affairs and it will be a slow uphill battle to change this. But it can be done if enough people join and stick with the movement.

In summary the saddest part about Obama's actions are that even if most of his inaction is to try to build a coalition to pass some jobs bills, he is failing miserably. The people he is trying to appease will cut him no slack and all of his posturing is wasted. One of my biggest dissapointments is that Obama, with a Democratically controlled House and Senate could not let the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy expire. If we can't even do that with "our" politicians in control, what is the point.
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  -I do not deny the Obama administration has many praiseworthy accomplishments. BUT ... Fly by night  Sep-08-11 07:30 AM   #0 
  - Recced.  Dawgs   Sep-08-11 07:36 AM   #1 
  - K&R.  William769   Sep-08-11 07:43 AM   #2 
  - Now That's Change I Can Believe In  we can do it   Sep-08-11 07:44 AM   #3 
  - Yes, we need more Jimmy Hoffas and fewer Howdy Doodys as our voices.  Fly by night   Sep-08-11 12:04 PM   #15 
     - What is Jimmy Hoffa going to do?  treestar   Sep-08-11 12:19 PM   #19 
        - Politics ain't bean-bag. It's time we remembered that fact.  Fly by night   Sep-08-11 12:29 PM   #20 
           - FDR or Truman did not use SOB in public speeches  treestar   Sep-08-11 12:50 PM   #25 
              - Thanks. I think we agree more than we disagree. At least I hope so.  Fly by night   Sep-08-11 12:54 PM   #28 
  - NO  benddem   Sep-08-11 08:03 AM   #4 
  - Of course he does. IF Obama was the leader of the Democratic party, ...  Fly by night   Sep-08-11 08:26 AM   #7 
  - He certainly had the power NOT to open a new black site in Mogadishu.  EFerrari   Sep-08-11 08:29 AM   #8 
     - or any of the other sites practicing brutal interrogation methods we're unaware of now.  Fly by night   Sep-08-11 08:44 AM   #10 
  - K&R  BeFree   Sep-08-11 08:15 AM   #5 
  - What you said  izquierdista   Sep-08-11 08:16 AM   #6 
  - It goes without saying that the republican party is one collective shitstain.  Joe Fields   Sep-08-11 08:40 AM   #9 
  - Agree completely. What is missing in American politics is a real populist, progressive slate ...  Fly by night   Sep-08-11 06:26 PM   #32 
  - So much misinformation its hard to know where to start.  grantcart   Sep-08-11 08:46 AM   #11 
  - Well, you're welcome to start anywhere within the content of my OP, ...  Fly by night   Sep-08-11 09:04 AM   #12 
  - I saw you Long Goodbye, must have missed the Hello Again.  Bluenorthwest   Sep-08-11 09:12 AM   #13 
  - BTW, no one has PMed me yet to bet that Obama will nix the Keystone pipeline.  Fly by night   Sep-08-11 10:22 AM   #14 
  - That's because they know deep down, by his past actions, that he won't nix it.  SammyWinstonJack   Sep-08-11 12:14 PM   #16 
     - If he does approve the pipeline, it will be inexcusable to many, many people.  Fly by night   Sep-08-11 06:45 PM   #33 
  - K&R  G_j   Sep-08-11 12:15 PM   #17 
  - It has been explained over and over that a US President  treestar   Sep-08-11 12:17 PM   #18 
  - The President has the power (if only the power of the bully pulpit) to effect change ...  Fly by night   Sep-08-11 12:40 PM   #22 
     - I'm not going to take your word for it  treestar   Sep-08-11 12:51 PM   #26 
        - I've spent 41 years as an active (and activist) Democrat.  Fly by night   Sep-08-11 12:58 PM   #29 
  - He COULD have the DOJ prosecute the Wall St. Banksters ...  Bake   Sep-08-11 12:39 PM   #21 
  - wow. you got lots of ponies.  Solomon   Sep-08-11 12:42 PM   #23 
  - If you think many real Democrats here have only one concern with this administration, ...  Fly by night   Sep-08-11 12:52 PM   #27 
  - I just love that this OP is accompanied by an ad encouraging people to check out arrest records.  Fly by night   Sep-08-11 12:47 PM   #24 
  - Sorry for the mid morning paranoia. (Didn't mean to distract my own thread.)  Fly by night   Sep-08-11 06:09 PM   #31 
  - He also could stop persecuting online poker players and pot smokers and go after some real criminals  Rageneau   Sep-08-11 01:54 PM   #30 
  - I agree with everything you say. However, to play devil's  truckin   Sep-09-11 09:16 AM   #34 

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