Bluenorthwest
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Wed Sep-07-11 02:05 PM
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| 18. I also remember 'any bill I sign must contain a strong public |
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option' and all the reasons he gave that it must. I bet you do too, as does Taibbi. And millions of other Americans.
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| -Now if I remember correctly Matt Taibbi predicted Health Care Reform would not pass |
Peacetrain |
Sep-07-11 01:19 PM |
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He's trying to one-up the firebagger queen's pre-reactionary bullcrap. |
tridim |
Sep-07-11 01:24 PM |
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It never ceases to amaze me..that the republicans are given the benefit of the doubt |
Peacetrain |
Sep-07-11 01:28 PM |
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As I am not a fan of arch implications I think it would be good of |
Bluenorthwest |
Sep-07-11 02:00 PM |
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he was right. there was no 'reform', just a big giveaway to Insurance cos |
ixion |
Sep-07-11 01:29 PM |
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+1 |
hifiguy |
Sep-07-11 01:47 PM |
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+1000000 |
Bake |
Sep-07-11 02:24 PM |
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Same here. |
OnyxCollie |
Sep-07-11 02:42 PM |
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Thanks, OC! |
Bake |
Sep-07-11 03:15 PM |
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yes, indeed. |
Chimichurri |
Sep-07-11 01:53 PM |
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A special ''Thank You!'' to Rahm's doctor brother and all their secret friends... |
Octafish |
Sep-07-11 02:02 PM |
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Exactly! |
joeybee12 |
Sep-07-11 02:06 PM |
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Well damn skippy, I will have to tell my college age kids |
JNelson6563 |
Sep-07-11 02:42 PM |
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Your situation is a plus but more people are uninsured then when HCR passed. |
county worker |
Sep-07-11 02:52 PM |
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And what will you tell College kids whose parents do not have |
sabrina 1 |
Sep-07-11 03:47 PM |
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On the nose. nt |
Javaman |
Sep-07-11 03:36 PM |
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+10000 big health insur corps now have captive clients, too, with the mandate |
amborin |
Sep-08-11 03:11 PM |
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+1 |
deutsey |
Sep-08-11 03:21 PM |
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you make it sound like it was a slam dunk and not even close |
CreekDog |
Sep-07-11 01:29 PM |
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What "reform"? |
truebrit71 |
Sep-07-11 01:37 PM |
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Increasing insurance coverage of pre-existing conditions |
Freddie Stubbs |
Sep-07-11 02:47 PM |
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There are no caps as to how high the premiums can go. So, if I get sick again, I can |
Chimichurri |
Sep-07-11 03:27 PM |
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Insurers are prohibited from discriminating against or charging higher rates for |
Freddie Stubbs |
Sep-07-11 03:38 PM |
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They'll jack up everybody's rate for that reason alone. They're still able to age discriminate ... |
Selatius |
Sep-07-11 04:41 PM |
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They can raise premiums as high as they like because there are no caps. They can charge |
Chimichurri |
Sep-07-11 05:01 PM |
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Insurers are prohibited from excluding pre-existing medical conditions |
Freddie Stubbs |
Sep-07-11 02:49 PM |
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Insurers are prohibited from charging co-payments, co-insurance, or deductibles for Level A or Level |
Freddie Stubbs |
Sep-07-11 02:50 PM |
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Insurers' abilities to enforce annual spending caps will be restricted, and completely prohibited by |
Freddie Stubbs |
Sep-07-11 02:52 PM |
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More people have no access to medical care than when HRC passed! |
county worker |
Sep-07-11 02:53 PM |
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Is that because of health care reform, or because the economy has been tanking for the past 3 years? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Sep-07-11 03:39 PM |
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It's because health care reform was not passed. |
county worker |
Sep-08-11 02:51 PM |
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Insurers are prohibited from dropping policyholders when they get sick. |
Freddie Stubbs |
Sep-07-11 02:52 PM |
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Insurers are required to reveal details about administrative and executive expenditures |
Freddie Stubbs |
Sep-07-11 02:53 PM |
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Insurers will be required to spend 85% of large-group and 80% of small-group and individual plan |
Freddie Stubbs |
Sep-07-11 02:54 PM |
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Insurers are prohibited from discriminating against or charging higher rates for any individuals |
Freddie Stubbs |
Sep-07-11 02:55 PM |
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So it was health care INSURANCE reform then...and it kicks in at some point in the future... |
truebrit71 |
Sep-07-11 03:12 PM |
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Many of the provisions have already kicked in |
Freddie Stubbs |
Sep-07-11 03:41 PM |
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The jobs thing will be just like HCR. The problem with health care was lack of access to health care |
county worker |
Sep-07-11 02:56 PM |
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He was essentially right.... |
blindpig |
Sep-07-11 01:39 PM |
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Health Care Reform did not pass. |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Sep-07-11 01:39 PM |
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You are correct. To have real health care reform the insurance companies |
Lint Head |
Sep-07-11 01:48 PM |
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Airc, he did not predict it would not pass, he was against the |
sabrina 1 |
Sep-07-11 01:43 PM |
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Matt Tiabbi is one of the most important journalists of our time. |
trumad |
Sep-07-11 01:52 PM |
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I do remember correctly and Barack Obama said that 'fixing' |
Bluenorthwest |
Sep-07-11 01:53 PM |
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I remember that too, and cheered when he said it having always |
sabrina 1 |
Sep-07-11 01:59 PM |
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I also remember 'any bill I sign must contain a strong public |
Bluenorthwest |
Sep-07-11 02:05 PM |
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Sure do. |
chill_wind |
Sep-07-11 02:34 PM |
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Yes, I do, and I'm glad you do too. Because people keep telling |
sabrina 1 |
Sep-07-11 03:41 PM |
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People love to feel vindicated |
chill_wind |
Sep-07-11 04:28 PM |
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This is one of the reasons I supported him over Clinton.. |
girl gone mad |
Sep-07-11 04:01 PM |
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Me too. |
bengalherder |
Sep-07-11 08:30 PM |
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Obama is already on the record |
chill_wind |
Sep-07-11 02:02 PM |
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He is correct. What we did is maintain the existing system while bolstering the profit centers |
TheKentuckian |
Sep-07-11 02:05 PM |
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That's what has irked me about most of Obama's 'reforms' |
deutsey |
Sep-08-11 03:25 PM |
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I wish I lived where Matt lives |
JNelson6563 |
Sep-07-11 02:37 PM |
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Everyone has become rightfully completely cynical about campaign politics |
chill_wind |
Sep-07-11 02:56 PM |
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You could at least wait until the results either happen or don't. |
county worker |
Sep-07-11 02:50 PM |
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Is that the same "reform" that they're going to come back to fix someday..maybe...if only....? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Sep-07-11 02:55 PM |
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JUST PASS SOMETHING NOW WE CAN FIX IT LATER!1!!!!11! |
QC |
Sep-07-11 03:53 PM |
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I don't know what you read or saw, I saw no health care reform passed |
Javaman |
Sep-07-11 03:37 PM |
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Health care reform did not pass. n/t |
girl gone mad |
Sep-07-11 04:03 PM |
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Ditto. nt |
jannyk |
Sep-07-11 04:32 PM |
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True, but if they tell us often enought that it did, they think we'll believe that. |
Stinky The Clown |
Sep-08-11 03:13 PM |
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