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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 09:24 PM
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198. So....been hiding under a rock?
Here, lemme help you:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q...

You'll find a lot of Republicans talking about "Job Killing Regulations". Such as this gem:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47064.html

Headline: Darrell Issa hunts job-killing federal regulations
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  -White House calls environmentalists "ridiculous," "silly," and not "serious" -equates them to GOPers nashville_brook  Sep-05-11 11:13 AM   #0 
  - What's so difficult about being honest and not playing dumb as grits word games?  cali   Sep-05-11 11:15 AM   #1 
  - Dumb as grits?  Are_grits_groceries   Sep-05-11 02:04 PM   #56 
  - Well said. The OP is nothing but an overt misrepresentation.  kristopher   Sep-05-11 05:49 PM   #124 
  - Then why dont you straighten us out? Tell us why Obama turned on the environmentalists?  rhett o rick   Sep-05-11 05:59 PM   #128 
  - What you said.  ChairmanAgnostic   Sep-05-11 06:30 PM   #134 
  - Get a grip on reality  kristopher   Sep-05-11 06:30 PM   #135 
  - No way. You were not specific. You did not counter anything the OP said. If you have a counter  rhett o rick   Sep-05-11 07:47 PM   #144 
  - Evidently, the mission of denial never includes actual debate ....  defendandprotect   Sep-05-11 07:59 PM   #149 
  - People can deny all sorts of shit, despite mountains of unassailable evidence.  Warren DeMontague   Sep-05-11 08:03 PM   #155 
  - Awesome!!...  SidDithers   Sep-06-11 07:16 AM   #254 
  - +1  Divine Discontent   Sep-06-11 12:10 AM   #229 
  - Show me where The White House "called environmentalists" any of those things.  Warren DeMontague   Sep-05-11 08:00 PM   #150 
     - Maybe the wording was to subtle for you. But the article was very clear that the Repubs were happy  rhett o rick   Sep-05-11 08:08 PM   #162 
     - The wording was "to" subtle for me? Yeah, I must be a real moron not "too" understand it.  Warren DeMontague   Sep-05-11 08:13 PM   #168 
     - The quote's in the OP. (nt)  jeff47   Sep-05-11 10:32 PM   #218 
        - Yeah, you're right, there's a quote in the OP. Which says nothing remotely resembling that.  Warren DeMontague   Sep-06-11 02:01 AM   #243 
           - Do I seriously have to diagram that sentence for you?  jeff47   Sep-06-11 07:47 AM   #256 
              - There's an attack in there. But the OP is a total misrepresentation of what was said.  Warren DeMontague   Sep-06-11 01:32 PM   #276 
  - There IS no such thing as a "job-killing regulation"  Ken Burch   Sep-06-11 12:46 AM   #232 
     - Actually there is, but nothing in the current realm of policy discussions would qualify.  kristopher   Sep-06-11 04:54 AM   #250 
  - When and how did he "turn on the environmentalits"?  The Doctor.   Sep-05-11 08:49 PM   #184 
     - You dont have to get nasty. The information is in the OP and the linked article.  rhett o rick   Sep-05-11 11:30 PM   #227 
     - Too many times, I've found that one gets nothing and nowhere by being 'nice'.  The Doctor.   Sep-06-11 02:55 AM   #248 
     - It was a right-wing talking point to agree that there is such a thing  Ken Burch   Sep-06-11 12:47 AM   #233 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-05-11 07:39 PM   #143 
  - Absolutely!  im1013   Sep-05-11 07:55 PM   #147 
  - +1000% -- on BOTH points -- !!  defendandprotect   Sep-05-11 08:03 PM   #153 
  - do you have a link to that quote?  Warren DeMontague   Sep-05-11 08:05 PM   #156 
     - Tell us how YOU feel about Obama's decision on this. I dare you. nm  rhett o rick   Sep-05-11 08:09 PM   #164 
        - I just did. I'll do it again. I'm not happy about it.  Warren DeMontague   Sep-05-11 08:14 PM   #170 
  - Wrong. Sunstein's comments were nothing but an overt misrepresentation.  DirkGently   Sep-05-11 08:36 PM   #177 
  - No it isn't.  Ken Burch   Sep-06-11 12:44 AM   #231 
  - It's honestly wrong to for a Democratic president EVER to equate  Ken Burch   Sep-06-11 12:42 AM   #230 
     - +  Bluebear   Sep-10-11 02:31 AM   #286 
  - Good points.  OHdem10   Sep-05-11 11:15 AM   #2 
  - Nice try.  Scurrilous   Sep-05-11 11:16 AM   #3 
  - "job-killing regulation is a redundancy" "job-killing regulation is an oxymoron  Mr Deltoid   Sep-05-11 11:17 AM   #4 
  - Um, maybe he believes that not all regulations are created equal.  Unvanguard   Sep-05-11 12:56 PM   #40 
  - We're not suffering from over-regulation. We're ARE suffering the results of under-regulation.  DirkGently   Sep-05-11 01:54 PM   #52 
  - That is a much better and fairer critique than the one actually made by the OP's link.  Unvanguard   Sep-05-11 02:14 PM   #67 
  - Thats not what he said. He said there's an equally crazy liberal view, which there isn't.  DirkGently   Sep-05-11 02:16 PM   #69 
     - I'm not sure I understand your claim.  Unvanguard   Sep-05-11 02:22 PM   #72 
     - He pretended there is liberal equivalent of the "job-killing regulations" rhetoric. There isn't.  DirkGently   Sep-05-11 02:25 PM   #76 
        - excellent  Claudia Jones   Sep-05-11 06:05 PM   #132 
     - +1  Muskypundit   Sep-05-11 03:40 PM   #99 
     - But we're equally crazy and dishonest.  hay rick   Sep-05-11 05:40 PM   #123 
     - this is a big victory for the GOP which has scheduled votes targeting more regulation  nashville_brook   Sep-05-11 07:24 PM   #141 
     - -- big victory for the oil industry --- !! Thanks, Obama -- !!! ROFL  defendandprotect   Sep-05-11 08:31 PM   #175 
     - hay rick wrote:  creeksneakers2   Sep-05-11 08:13 PM   #169 
        - I objected to Sunstein's straw man.  hay rick   Sep-05-11 09:27 PM   #200 
        - You talk like you are reasoning  creeksneakers2   Sep-06-11 11:33 AM   #271 
           - Good guess.  hay rick   Sep-06-11 09:05 PM   #280 
              - In my previous post I also wrote  creeksneakers2   Sep-06-11 09:52 PM   #282 
        - NT  quakerboy   Sep-05-11 10:31 PM   #217 
     - Thank you Dirk  tgal   Sep-06-11 12:19 PM   #274 
  - Global Warming is exactly proof of that -- guess Obama didn't notice ... ???? ROFL  defendandprotect   Sep-05-11 08:22 PM   #172 
  - Try actually reading the NYT article  Bluesbreaker   Sep-05-11 04:30 PM   #115 
  - I'm not really sure what your point is.  Unvanguard   Sep-05-11 04:35 PM   # 
  - "all regulations" good or not good would be ....  defendandprotect   Sep-05-11 08:58 PM   #188 
  - Duplicate. n/t  Unvanguard   Sep-05-11 04:35 PM   #117 
  - +100000  nashville_brook   Sep-05-11 08:42 PM   #179 
  - "Harmful to the economy" -- by any chance have you or Obama noticed Global Warming?  defendandprotect   Sep-05-11 08:05 PM   #157 
  - I'm strongly in favor of aggressive action to combat climate change.  Unvanguard   Sep-05-11 10:29 PM   # 
  - Climate change is something which occurs naturally ... Global Warming is NOT ....  defendandprotect   Sep-06-11 01:51 AM   #241 
     - The UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change was formed in 1988 when Luntz was 16...  SidDithers   Sep-06-11 07:28 AM   #255 
     - I support the more stringent rules on ozone, too.  Unvanguard   Sep-06-11 08:41 AM   #259 
  - Duplicate. n/t  Unvanguard   Sep-05-11 10:29 PM   #215 
  - thanks, i was trying to say that  certainot   Sep-06-11 08:05 AM   #257 
  - maybe that it's not so simplistic?  MH1   Sep-05-11 01:05 PM   #43 
  - That statement has the appearance of  Marr   Sep-05-11 03:22 PM   #96 
     - What we need to be doing is saving the planet -- folding corporate/fascism .... !!  defendandprotect   Sep-05-11 08:07 PM   #159 
     - I remember when cost to business was not a factor in environmental regulation  Mugweed   Sep-06-11 06:48 AM   #252 
  - The only people that use "job-killing regulation" in any context have traditionally  mmonk   Sep-05-11 01:19 PM   #44 
  - Anti-marijuana laws are job-killing regulations.  Unvanguard   Sep-05-11 01:31 PM   #49 
  - Laws are not regulations.  former9thward   Sep-05-11 02:22 PM   #73 
     - I don't think that distinction really works in this context.  Unvanguard   Sep-05-11 02:35 PM   #81 
     - utterly untrue  joshguitar   Sep-05-11 03:37 PM   #98 
     - "Make marijuana legal and far more people would lose their jobs ..."  Fly by night   Sep-06-11 06:57 AM   #253 
        - Bullshit back at you.  former9thward   Sep-06-11 08:46 AM   #260 
           - Maybe You should reread your own post before criticizing my response.  Fly by night   Sep-06-11 10:31 AM   #266 
              - I understood what I said.  former9thward   Sep-06-11 11:35 AM   #272 
                 - You make assertions for which there is no basis in fact.  Fly by night   Sep-06-11 03:22 PM   #277 
                    - Degrees don't mean anything if you don't have common sense.  former9thward   Sep-06-11 04:04 PM   #278 
                       - Well, if relevant degrees, extensive direct experience and the consensus of most researchers ...  Fly by night   Sep-06-11 07:57 PM   #279 
                          - If you are curious where I post you can do a search.  former9thward   Sep-06-11 09:46 PM   #281 
                             - You asked for it. You got it.  Fly by night   Sep-07-11 07:08 AM   #285 
  - Correct. It's rightwing rhetoric. There IS NO lefty equivalent.  DirkGently   Sep-05-11 02:07 PM   #59 
  - Agree -- AND, we can live without jobs -- we can't live without the planet -- !!!  defendandprotect   Sep-05-11 08:08 PM   #163 
  - He believes in window dressing, PR regulation that doesn't bother big business.  Marr   Sep-05-11 03:18 PM   #94 
  - Something between the extremes  creeksneakers2   Sep-05-11 08:07 PM   #160 
  - According to the spokes criter, these terms do not...  reACTIONary   Sep-05-11 11:11 PM   #226 
  - What an idiot. She sounds exactly like the Fox bobbleheads. n/t  EFerrari   Sep-05-11 11:19 AM   #5 
  - Sunstein is the guy who wants to "cognitively infiltrate' conspiracy theorists.  Octafish   Sep-05-11 11:20 AM   #6 
  - Sick little bastard.  Rex   Sep-05-11 11:22 AM   #9 
  - Dropped onto SCOTUS.  Octafish   Sep-05-11 11:32 AM   #12 
     - wow, Cass Sustein guest-blogged for paleo-conservative Instapundit  nashville_brook   Sep-05-11 12:12 PM   #27 
     - Thankyouverymuch, nashville_brook. Great resource, thar.  Octafish   Sep-05-11 04:09 PM   #107 
     - I read that before, but did not know who he was.  Rex   Sep-05-11 12:29 PM   #34 
        - A man's got to wear what a man's got to wear.  Octafish   Sep-05-11 03:48 PM   #101 
  - oh yeah...the thing about govt infiltrating activist groups to increase faith in govt.  nashville_brook   Sep-05-11 11:23 AM   #10 
  - Amazing.  Octafish   Sep-05-11 11:49 AM   #18 
     - so condescending...and why the fear of "ridiculous conspiracy theories" anyway?  nashville_brook   Sep-05-11 12:02 PM   #24 
     - Yeah, it makes it seem that he is worried about conspiracy in general  Rex   Sep-05-11 12:26 PM   #32 
     - you took the words right out of my head.  nashville_brook   Sep-05-11 12:38 PM   #36 
        - Minds like his always project their intentions  Rex   Sep-05-11 02:09 PM   #60 
     - More like flat out, bugsnot crazy. And we've got him on the payroll? Neato.  DirkGently   Sep-05-11 07:53 PM   #146 
     - Will someone PRIMARY this DINO?  rasputinkhlyst   Sep-05-11 04:08 PM   #105 
  - Why is this guy in the White House?  tblue   Sep-05-11 12:26 PM   #33 
  - The guy the pukes had writin' histeree also is a doozy -- Philip Zelikow.  Octafish   Sep-05-11 04:15 PM   #111 
     - +1000% --- one more infiltrator -- Zelikow -- !! Thank you --  defendandprotect   Sep-05-11 09:02 PM   #192 
  - That's incredibly creepy. Is there a rightwing nutwad this WH HASN'T brought to its breast?  DirkGently   Sep-05-11 01:37 PM   #50 
  - I don't think they've tried to re-legitimize Dick Morris yet.  Fuddnik   Sep-05-11 04:06 PM   #104 
  - O.M.G. , O.M.G. , O.M.G. , O.M.G. , O.M.G. , O.M.G. , O.M.G. , n/t  2banon   Sep-05-11 02:06 PM   #57 
  - Reported the same below, before I noticed your post. Kudos for bringing these facts to light! -nt  scentopine   Sep-05-11 08:29 PM   #174 
  - Look more like our White House has been "infiltrated" by fascists .....  defendandprotect   Sep-05-11 09:01 PM   #191 
  - Urecs. Who would have guessed?  Vanje   Sep-05-11 11:21 AM   #7 
  - The right wing plan to continue to do just that  Jamastiene   Sep-05-11 01:26 PM   #47 
  - Nothing wrong with getting in their face  BeFree   Sep-05-11 11:21 AM   #8 
  - Haven't you been paying attention? We are divided.  Curmudgeoness   Sep-05-11 11:31 AM   #11 
     - Oh?  BeFree   Sep-05-11 11:48 AM   #16 
        - What I am saying is that when you run on a platform  Curmudgeoness   Sep-05-11 12:21 PM   #30 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-05-11 11:33 AM   #13 
  - Unrec. Policies are not people...  SidDithers   Sep-05-11 11:37 AM   #14 
  - Yep. nt  sufrommich   Sep-05-11 11:49 AM   #17 
  - It is getting thin  Vanje   Sep-05-11 11:50 AM   #20 
  - +1. word games.  mopinko   Sep-05-11 11:53 AM   #21 
  - Environmentalists wanting to regulate corrupt, planet destroying  sabrina 1   Sep-05-11 12:00 PM   #23 
  - that sure seems to be the real plan.  bbgrunt   Sep-05-11 12:14 PM   #28 
  - +1  nashville_brook   Sep-05-11 12:18 PM   #29 
  - It appears that the White House  Enthusiast   Sep-05-11 04:32 PM   #116 
  - Who said anything about 'bad'?  joshcryer   Sep-05-11 09:00 PM   #189 
  - +1  Shining Jack   Sep-06-11 02:24 AM   #246 
  - Yes. Let's be fair here. The WH said environmentalists' "policies" are silly and unserious.  DirkGently   Sep-05-11 01:59 PM   #54 
  - To the WH "serious"= anything to win the approval of the corporate elite  Lorien   Sep-06-11 12:53 AM   #234 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-05-11 05:55 PM   #126 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-05-11 05:57 PM   #127 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-05-11 06:31 PM   #136 
  - Yep. That "Rahm said liberals are retards" lie won't die, will it?  Number23   Sep-05-11 07:09 PM   #138 
  - So you support Obama's decision? The Republicans loved it.  rhett o rick   Sep-05-11 08:11 PM   #165 
  - K&R  Pooka Fey   Sep-05-11 11:41 AM   #15 
  - K&R  amborin   Sep-05-11 11:49 AM   #19 
  - +1  stevedeshazer   Sep-05-11 11:55 AM   #22 
  - Sunstein is a scary creep.  PufPuf23   Sep-05-11 12:06 PM   #25 
  - I am still gobsmacked that Rahm  zalinda   Sep-05-11 12:32 PM   #35 
  - Cass Sunstein. Enough said.  mmonk   Sep-05-11 12:07 PM   #26 
  - playing the false equivalency game like so many naive fools after the Tuscon shooting  alp227   Sep-05-11 12:23 PM   #31 
  - +1 n/t  LarryNM   Sep-05-11 10:45 PM   #222 
  - Emotionally, this make me want to find something better to do on election day..  lostnfound   Sep-05-11 12:44 PM   #37 
  - Quote does not say what the headline of this thread purports.  TwilightGardener   Sep-05-11 12:48 PM   #38 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-05-11 01:02 PM   #41 
  - Cass Sunstein is essentially correct, if you actually read what he says.  Unvanguard   Sep-05-11 12:53 PM   #39 
  - Which ones are the bad ones?  mmonk   Sep-05-11 01:20 PM   #45 
  - Many licensing regulations are probably excessively burdensome.  Unvanguard   Sep-05-11 01:30 PM   #48 
     - I guess my problem is we were just plunged into a mini depression  mmonk   Sep-05-11 01:48 PM   #51 
     - But now you're arguing with the Republican Party, not with me.  Unvanguard   Sep-05-11 02:11 PM   #61 
     - I agree.  Enthusiast   Sep-05-11 04:38 PM   #118 
     - The whole comparison is a strawman. No one on the left spouts the equivalent of "job killing  DirkGently   Sep-05-11 02:12 PM   #63 
     - exactly.  Warren Stupidity   Sep-05-11 02:51 PM   #87 
     - PLUS ONE!.......nt  Enthusiast   Sep-05-11 04:41 PM   #119 
     - +100000000  nashville_brook   Sep-05-11 08:43 PM   #180 
     - so, it was a "mistake" to protect americans from smog?  nashville_brook   Sep-05-11 02:17 PM   #70 
     - No. Specifics are a different matter.  Unvanguard   Sep-05-11 02:24 PM   #74 
        - Sunstein's false equivalency creates an environment where specifics don't matter  nashville_brook   Sep-05-11 03:14 PM   #92 
           - Sunstein's obviously true statement makes the precise point that specifics matter.  Unvanguard   Sep-05-11 03:18 PM   #93 
              - please explain how undermining advocacy for regulation improves the ability to regulate  nashville_brook   Sep-05-11 03:42 PM   #100 
     - Some regulations are desired by industry  DissedByBush   Sep-05-11 02:30 PM   #79 
     - There was nothing "knee jerk" about this. Environmentalists have been working on these regulations  rhett o rick   Sep-05-11 06:01 PM   #130 
  - +1. It's what Americablog does...nt  SidDithers   Sep-05-11 02:06 PM   #58 
  - No he is creating a false equivalency.  Warren Stupidity   Sep-05-11 02:50 PM   #86 
  - No, Republicans don't actually claim that any more than liberals claim the opposite.  Unvanguard   Sep-05-11 04:15 PM   #110 
  - So....been hiding under a rock?  jeff47   Sep-05-11 09:24 PM   #198 
     - Obviously Republicans think business is over-regulated.  Unvanguard   Sep-05-11 10:17 PM   #209 
        - So, "No, Republicans don't actually claim that" was just a keyboard spasm then? (nt)  jeff47   Sep-05-11 10:19 PM   #210 
           - No. Different statements.  Unvanguard   Sep-05-11 10:26 PM   #214 
              - Yet that's not what they are claiming.  jeff47   Sep-05-11 10:31 PM   #216 
  - Thank you. Would that I had managed to say this so clearly & concisely. / thread.  DirkGently   Sep-05-11 09:05 PM   #193 
  - Show me one person on the Left who says that.  MannyGoldstein   Sep-05-11 04:10 PM   #108 
     - Show me one person on the Right who says that all regulations are bad.  Unvanguard   Sep-05-11 04:13 PM   #109 
        - Good point. So a double-false equivalence. However...  MannyGoldstein   Sep-05-11 05:49 PM   #125 
        - Not a double false equivalence.  Unvanguard   Sep-05-11 10:25 PM   #212 
           - Can you quote some Republicans who have said that  sabrina 1   Sep-06-11 01:41 AM   #240 
        - Alan Greenspan.  nashville_brook   Sep-05-11 08:44 PM   #181 
        - Show me one that doesn't use "job killing deregulation" disingenuously to mean, "profit-reducing."  DirkGently   Sep-05-11 09:07 PM   #195 
        - How 'bout Daryl Issa and the entire Republican House Caucus?  jeff47   Sep-05-11 09:25 PM   #199 
  - Another lie for the brainwashing campaign. nt  mfcorey1   Sep-05-11 01:04 PM   #42 
  - K&R  Jamastiene   Sep-05-11 01:23 PM   #46 
  - Many here at DU equate lefties of all stripe with Republicans  Doctor_J   Sep-05-11 01:57 PM   #53 
  - What a weird thought inversion that, is eh? Lefties critique Obama, & are therefore Republicans? Er?  DirkGently   Sep-05-11 02:14 PM   #65 
  - You have it exactly backward. The White continually bashes the left more than  Doctor_J   Sep-05-11 04:06 PM   #103 
     - I think you understood my post exactly backward. We are addressing two sides of the same coin  DirkGently   Sep-05-11 08:03 PM   #152 
  - The White House is counting on the Obama bashing from the left bringing out the vote.  joshcryer   Sep-05-11 09:01 PM   #190 
  - Seems the Obama WH wants a right-wing Congress next time  Doctor_J   Sep-05-11 02:02 PM   #55 
  - It won't bother him. He'll just have to compromise harder with a fully Republican Congress....  xocet   Sep-05-11 02:54 PM   #89 
  - Job kill regulations? You mean like the ones that cleaned the water we drink and the air we breathe?  neverforget   Sep-05-11 02:11 PM   #62 
  - Summation: Corporations need to destroy plant, nature, humans to create jobs" ... !!!  defendandprotect   Sep-05-11 02:16 PM   #68 
     - +1 it's the humans vs the dollars  nashville_brook   Sep-05-11 02:26 PM   #77 
     - The real irony; more regulation would have provided loads of jobs  Lorien   Sep-06-11 12:56 AM   #235 
        - +1 --  defendandprotect   Sep-06-11 01:55 AM   #242 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-05-11 02:14 PM   #64 
  - That is a link to a site that promotes 3rd party voting:  sufrommich   Sep-05-11 02:44 PM   #85 
  - And those kind of insults - of your own voters - is offensive  matt819   Sep-05-11 02:14 PM   #66 
  - A president behaving as if he doesn't care if he wins ... and destroying the party ... hmmm?  defendandprotect   Sep-05-11 02:17 PM   #71 
  - no, they did not call environmentalists all those name you accused them of saying. nt  seabeyond   Sep-05-11 02:25 PM   #75 
  - Yes, in effect he did. He called liberal opposition to "job-killing regulation" talk silly & unser-  DirkGently   Sep-05-11 02:42 PM   #84 
     - if you have to say.. in effect, then you lose the stand. he did not call environmentalist those  seabeyond   Sep-05-11 03:09 PM   #90 
     - You may have that distinction without difference, if you want it. The OP loses nothing by it.  DirkGently   Sep-05-11 07:56 PM   #148 
        - it does for me. making things up in headlines takes away from the substance.  seabeyond   Sep-05-11 08:03 PM   #154 
           - Nothing was made up. Who did Sunstein mean, if not environmentalists? What was he saying, if not  DirkGently   Sep-05-11 08:57 PM   #187 
     - wow, this nails it.  nashville_brook   Sep-05-11 03:09 PM   #91 
     - Let's be clear about what corporations are doing -- "killing the planet/humans" -- !!!  defendandprotect   Sep-05-11 07:51 PM   #145 
     - Well, now...  chervilant   Sep-05-11 08:52 PM   #186 
  - Rahm is gone but his thinking is not  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-05-11 02:26 PM   #78 
  - Now we know it's Obama's thinking  Hawkowl   Sep-05-11 03:24 PM   #97 
  - so you believe that all environmentalists believe  hfojvt   Sep-05-11 02:34 PM   #80 
  - I regret that I only have  Jamastiene   Sep-05-11 02:37 PM   #82 
  - John Aravosis: driving wedges as fast as he can  struggle4progress   Sep-05-11 02:38 PM   #83 
  - Nothing like attacking the messenger rather than the message n/t  FreeState   Sep-05-11 05:59 PM   #129 
     - I find the John Aravosis Show predictable: his magic act involves one trick: "Watch me  struggle4progress   Sep-05-11 06:16 PM   #133 
        - Which has what to do with the actually topic?  FreeState   Sep-05-11 09:19 PM   #197 
  - those are the same silly lefties that said offshore drilling was dangerous  Enrique   Sep-05-11 02:53 PM   #88 
  - Unfair to say the "White House" said that (which is stupid anyway.....not on your part, n_b, but as  tpsbmam   Sep-05-11 03:22 PM   #95 
  - A member of the Obama White House IS The White House  Doctor_J   Sep-05-11 04:04 PM   #102 
     - Amazing how quickly Van Jones was gone. But then,  sabrina 1   Sep-05-11 04:16 PM   #112 
        - +1  nashville_brook   Sep-05-11 04:50 PM   #120 
        - +1 n/t  LarryNM   Sep-05-11 10:52 PM   #224 
  - Way to stabilize your base support.  MoonRiver   Sep-05-11 04:08 PM   #106 
  - I hope he fixes that. they've done that shit before  PatrynXX   Sep-05-11 04:21 PM   #113 
  - Do not fuck with this planet  RedCloud   Sep-05-11 04:29 PM   #114 
  - When they fuck with the planet, they fuck with US!  Lorien   Sep-06-11 12:59 AM   #237 
  - A reagan democrat administration.  Jakes Progress   Sep-05-11 04:53 PM   #121 
  - No, that's not what they said.  Warren DeMontague   Sep-05-11 05:39 PM   #122 
  - Truth...not mattering so much here.  TwilightGardener   Sep-05-11 06:03 PM   #131 
  - Technically, the Head of WH Information didn't call out anyone. Because his whole premise is a lie.  DirkGently   Sep-05-11 08:47 PM   #182 
     - You know what, Dirk? THAT would make a much better OP on the subject than the one up top, here.  Warren DeMontague   Sep-06-11 02:04 AM   #244 
  - Examining the NYT article, not seeing any ad hominem attacks on environmentalists. nt  Deep13   Sep-05-11 07:06 PM   #137 
  - You won't find what's not there...  SidDithers   Sep-05-11 07:18 PM   #140 
  - Other than a WH official inventing a non-existent leftwing pro-regulation extremism, you mean?  DirkGently   Sep-05-11 08:12 PM   #167 
     - There's a lot of dishonest bullshit around, these days.  Warren DeMontague   Sep-06-11 02:10 AM   #245 
     - The criticism is not ad hominem and is directed to one argument...  Deep13   Sep-06-11 10:37 AM   #267 
     - You can't be serious. Don't you have anything better to do?  ecstatic   Sep-06-11 12:21 PM   #275 
  - More anti-WH fodder from ex-GOP staffer-turned-"Proud Firebagger" Avarosis.  CakeGrrl   Sep-05-11 07:12 PM   #139 
  - "The administrations clean air agenda has been its greatest success story at EPA."  ProSense   Sep-05-11 07:31 PM   #142 
  - Word games: is job-killing regulation an oxymoron? Chill out. (nt)  philly_bob   Sep-05-11 08:02 PM   #151 
  - Silly is as silly does. A look at Cass Sunstein. Obama's Minister of Information is dangerous....  scentopine   Sep-05-11 08:06 PM   #158 
  - This horse's ass is the head of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs?  tularetom   Sep-05-11 08:07 PM   #161 
  - Sunstein was on the short list for Stevens' Supreme Court seat  nashville_brook   Sep-05-11 08:40 PM   #178 
  - If Obama's re-elected, this is the kind of man he would nominate to the USSC ?Jesus wept!  Divernan   Sep-06-11 08:08 AM   #258 
  - Decriminalized torture and wiretaps. Appoints web spy advocate to head Information Office...  scentopine   Sep-05-11 09:19 PM   #196 
  - Just want to point out WH is also bashing their EPA advisors -- !!!  defendandprotect   Sep-05-11 08:11 PM   #166 
  - If an uprising is coming, then certainly we should turn to AA and GLBT for advice -- !!!  defendandprotect   Sep-05-11 08:20 PM   #171 
  - K and R  OwnedByFerrets   Sep-05-11 08:27 PM   #173 
  - Your title misquotes what was said  Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin   Sep-05-11 08:32 PM   #176 
  - The title captures exactly what was said. To lay out Sunstein's whole strawman requires a paragraph.  DirkGently   Sep-05-11 08:49 PM   #183 
  - What part of this quote is misquoted? Here is what I read...  scentopine   Sep-05-11 08:51 PM   #185 
  - That's not quite what he said -- the POLICIES are silly and have  gateley   Sep-05-11 09:06 PM   #194 
  - Please elaborate the exact policies that you believe are silly and non-serious?  scentopine   Sep-05-11 09:27 PM   #201 
  - For the love of God, I'm implying everything is fair and balanced?  gateley   Sep-05-11 10:25 PM   #213 
     - Please elaborate on the exact policies you believe are silly... -nt  scentopine   Sep-05-11 10:38 PM   #221 
  - DUPE. Weird.  DirkGently   Sep-05-11 09:30 PM   #202 
  - The WH Office of Information IS the WH. And the "policies" he called silly don't exist.  DirkGently   Sep-05-11 09:30 PM   #203 
  - To claim the policies have nothing to do with the people is a stupid argument. (nt)  jeff47   Sep-05-11 09:31 PM   #204 
     - I'm stupid. nt  gateley   Sep-05-11 10:21 PM   #211 
        - Ok, lesson #1: Inanimate objects can't be "silly" or "unserious". They simply exist.  jeff47   Sep-05-11 10:36 PM   #220 
  - Rick Perry calls right wing "silly, as bad as left wing, with no place in serious discussions"...  scentopine   Sep-05-11 09:33 PM   #205 
  - The quote doesn't say what it says it says!!!111  JoeyT   Sep-05-11 09:44 PM   #206 
  - Regulations only mitigate damages...  maryf   Sep-05-11 09:52 PM   #207 
  - Thanks for the post. K-R. n/t  Tripod   Sep-05-11 10:14 PM   #208 
  - Reading the WH's criticisms of "left wing" anything is painful for me.  BlueIris   Sep-05-11 10:34 PM   #219 
  - Democratic party thinks every liberal can stay home, and Obama will still win by a landslide...  scentopine   Sep-05-11 10:51 PM   #223 
     - very well said.  nashville_brook   Sep-06-11 06:45 AM   #251 
  - The WH does a lot of silly things themselves...  MrMickeysMom   Sep-05-11 11:06 PM   #225 
  - The WH is pushing false equivalency  cprise   Sep-06-11 12:03 AM   #228 
  - Quoting Teabagger talking points...  upi402   Sep-06-11 12:58 AM   #236 
  - Yeah, teabaggers always accuse Obama of behaving like a republican.  Lorien   Sep-06-11 01:00 AM   #238 
     - crazy  fascisthunter   Sep-06-11 10:50 AM   #269 
  - I call the Obama administration "ridiculous," "silly," not "serious" and I equate them to GOPers  begin_within   Sep-06-11 01:23 AM   #239 
  - +1  Shining Jack   Sep-06-11 02:26 AM   #247 
  - "...They only respect people who challenge them  xxqqqzme   Sep-06-11 03:56 AM   #249 
  - Unrec for blatant clutching in the title,not borne out by the post,  Denzil_DC   Sep-06-11 08:47 AM   #261 
  - K&R This name calling is unfortunate... Not a way to pick up votes in an  midnight   Sep-06-11 09:02 AM   #262 
  - You're right that this White House responds only to those who go militant  caseymoz   Sep-06-11 09:28 AM   #263 
  - bottom line is, it isn't personal, and neither they nor we should treat it that way...  nashville_brook   Sep-06-11 10:20 AM   #265 
  - The interpretation in the subject line is "ridiculous," "silly," and not "serious."  ZombieHorde   Sep-06-11 09:45 AM   #264 
  - He's a Neo-liberal with a "D" next to his name  fascisthunter   Sep-06-11 10:48 AM   #268 
  - But .. but .. he hasn't lost the base ...  Bake   Sep-06-11 11:19 AM   #270 
  - they must believe...or else.  nashville_brook   Sep-06-11 12:12 PM   #273 
     - Nice disclaimer!  DirkGently   Sep-06-11 11:08 PM   #283 
  - That is what Cass Sunstein says....but where does Obama stand?  and-justice-for-all   Sep-06-11 11:21 PM   #284 
 

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