| -White House calls environmentalists "ridiculous," "silly," and not "serious" -equates them to GOPers |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 11:13 AM |
#0 |
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What's so difficult about being honest and not playing dumb as grits word games? |
cali |
Sep-05-11 11:15 AM |
#1 |
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Dumb as grits? |
Are_grits_groceries |
Sep-05-11 02:04 PM |
#56 |
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Well said. The OP is nothing but an overt misrepresentation. |
kristopher |
Sep-05-11 05:49 PM |
#124 |
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Then why dont you straighten us out? Tell us why Obama turned on the environmentalists? |
rhett o rick |
Sep-05-11 05:59 PM |
#128 |
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What you said. |
ChairmanAgnostic |
Sep-05-11 06:30 PM |
#134 |
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Get a grip on reality |
kristopher |
Sep-05-11 06:30 PM |
#135 |
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No way. You were not specific. You did not counter anything the OP said. If you have a counter |
rhett o rick |
Sep-05-11 07:47 PM |
#144 |
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Evidently, the mission of denial never includes actual debate .... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 07:59 PM |
#149 |
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People can deny all sorts of shit, despite mountains of unassailable evidence. |
Warren DeMontague |
Sep-05-11 08:03 PM |
#155 |
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Awesome!!... |
SidDithers |
Sep-06-11 07:16 AM |
#254 |
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+1 |
Divine Discontent |
Sep-06-11 12:10 AM |
#229 |
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Show me where The White House "called environmentalists" any of those things. |
Warren DeMontague |
Sep-05-11 08:00 PM |
#150 |
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Maybe the wording was to subtle for you. But the article was very clear that the Repubs were happy |
rhett o rick |
Sep-05-11 08:08 PM |
#162 |
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The wording was "to" subtle for me? Yeah, I must be a real moron not "too" understand it. |
Warren DeMontague |
Sep-05-11 08:13 PM |
#168 |
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The quote's in the OP. (nt) |
jeff47 |
Sep-05-11 10:32 PM |
#218 |
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Yeah, you're right, there's a quote in the OP. Which says nothing remotely resembling that. |
Warren DeMontague |
Sep-06-11 02:01 AM |
#243 |
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Do I seriously have to diagram that sentence for you? |
jeff47 |
Sep-06-11 07:47 AM |
#256 |
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There's an attack in there. But the OP is a total misrepresentation of what was said. |
Warren DeMontague |
Sep-06-11 01:32 PM |
#276 |
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There IS no such thing as a "job-killing regulation" |
Ken Burch |
Sep-06-11 12:46 AM |
#232 |
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Actually there is, but nothing in the current realm of policy discussions would qualify. |
kristopher |
Sep-06-11 04:54 AM |
#250 |
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When and how did he "turn on the environmentalits"? |
The Doctor. |
Sep-05-11 08:49 PM |
#184 |
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You dont have to get nasty. The information is in the OP and the linked article. |
rhett o rick |
Sep-05-11 11:30 PM |
#227 |
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Too many times, I've found that one gets nothing and nowhere by being 'nice'. |
The Doctor. |
Sep-06-11 02:55 AM |
#248 |
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It was a right-wing talking point to agree that there is such a thing |
Ken Burch |
Sep-06-11 12:47 AM |
#233 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-05-11 07:39 PM |
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Absolutely! |
im1013 |
Sep-05-11 07:55 PM |
#147 |
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+1000% -- on BOTH points -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 08:03 PM |
#153 |
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do you have a link to that quote? |
Warren DeMontague |
Sep-05-11 08:05 PM |
#156 |
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Tell us how YOU feel about Obama's decision on this. I dare you. nm |
rhett o rick |
Sep-05-11 08:09 PM |
#164 |
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I just did. I'll do it again. I'm not happy about it. |
Warren DeMontague |
Sep-05-11 08:14 PM |
#170 |
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Wrong. Sunstein's comments were nothing but an overt misrepresentation. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 08:36 PM |
#177 |
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No it isn't. |
Ken Burch |
Sep-06-11 12:44 AM |
#231 |
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It's honestly wrong to for a Democratic president EVER to equate |
Ken Burch |
Sep-06-11 12:42 AM |
#230 |
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+ |
Bluebear |
Sep-10-11 02:31 AM |
#286 |
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Good points. |
OHdem10 |
Sep-05-11 11:15 AM |
#2 |
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Nice try. |
Scurrilous |
Sep-05-11 11:16 AM |
#3 |
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"‘job-killing regulation’ is a redundancy" "‘job-killing regulation’ is an oxymoron” |
Mr Deltoid |
Sep-05-11 11:17 AM |
#4 |
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Um, maybe he believes that not all regulations are created equal. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 12:56 PM |
#40 |
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We're not suffering from over-regulation. We're ARE suffering the results of under-regulation. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 01:54 PM |
#52 |
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That is a much better and fairer critique than the one actually made by the OP's link. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 02:14 PM |
#67 |
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Thats not what he said. He said there's an equally crazy liberal view, which there isn't. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 02:16 PM |
#69 |
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I'm not sure I understand your claim. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 02:22 PM |
#72 |
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He pretended there is liberal equivalent of the "job-killing regulations" rhetoric. There isn't. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 02:25 PM |
#76 |
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excellent |
Claudia Jones |
Sep-05-11 06:05 PM |
#132 |
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+1 |
Muskypundit |
Sep-05-11 03:40 PM |
#99 |
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But we're equally crazy and dishonest. |
hay rick |
Sep-05-11 05:40 PM |
#123 |
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this is a big victory for the GOP which has scheduled votes targeting more regulation |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 07:24 PM |
#141 |
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-- big victory for the oil industry --- !! Thanks, Obama -- !!! ROFL |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 08:31 PM |
#175 |
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hay rick wrote: |
creeksneakers2 |
Sep-05-11 08:13 PM |
#169 |
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I objected to Sunstein's straw man. |
hay rick |
Sep-05-11 09:27 PM |
#200 |
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You talk like you are reasoning |
creeksneakers2 |
Sep-06-11 11:33 AM |
#271 |
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Good guess. |
hay rick |
Sep-06-11 09:05 PM |
#280 |
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In my previous post I also wrote |
creeksneakers2 |
Sep-06-11 09:52 PM |
#282 |
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NT |
quakerboy |
Sep-05-11 10:31 PM |
#217 |
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Thank you Dirk |
tgal |
Sep-06-11 12:19 PM |
#274 |
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Global Warming is exactly proof of that -- guess Obama didn't notice ... ???? ROFL |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 08:22 PM |
#172 |
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Try actually reading the NYT article |
Bluesbreaker |
Sep-05-11 04:30 PM |
#115 |
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I'm not really sure what your point is. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 04:35 PM |
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"all regulations" good or not good would be .... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 08:58 PM |
#188 |
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Duplicate. n/t |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 04:35 PM |
#117 |
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+100000 |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 08:42 PM |
#179 |
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"Harmful to the economy" -- by any chance have you or Obama noticed Global Warming? |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 08:05 PM |
#157 |
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I'm strongly in favor of aggressive action to combat climate change. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 10:29 PM |
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Climate change is something which occurs naturally ... Global Warming is NOT .... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-06-11 01:51 AM |
#241 |
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The UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change was formed in 1988 when Luntz was 16... |
SidDithers |
Sep-06-11 07:28 AM |
#255 |
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I support the more stringent rules on ozone, too. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-06-11 08:41 AM |
#259 |
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Duplicate. n/t |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 10:29 PM |
#215 |
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thanks, i was trying to say that |
certainot |
Sep-06-11 08:05 AM |
#257 |
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maybe that it's not so simplistic? |
MH1 |
Sep-05-11 01:05 PM |
#43 |
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That statement has the appearance of |
Marr |
Sep-05-11 03:22 PM |
#96 |
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What we need to be doing is saving the planet -- folding corporate/fascism .... !! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 08:07 PM |
#159 |
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I remember when cost to business was not a factor in environmental regulation |
Mugweed |
Sep-06-11 06:48 AM |
#252 |
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The only people that use "job-killing regulation" in any context have traditionally |
mmonk |
Sep-05-11 01:19 PM |
#44 |
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Anti-marijuana laws are job-killing regulations. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 01:31 PM |
#49 |
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Laws are not regulations. |
former9thward |
Sep-05-11 02:22 PM |
#73 |
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I don't think that distinction really works in this context. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 02:35 PM |
#81 |
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utterly untrue |
joshguitar |
Sep-05-11 03:37 PM |
#98 |
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"Make marijuana legal and far more people would lose their jobs ..." |
Fly by night |
Sep-06-11 06:57 AM |
#253 |
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Bullshit back at you. |
former9thward |
Sep-06-11 08:46 AM |
#260 |
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Maybe You should reread your own post before criticizing my response. |
Fly by night |
Sep-06-11 10:31 AM |
#266 |
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I understood what I said. |
former9thward |
Sep-06-11 11:35 AM |
#272 |
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You make assertions for which there is no basis in fact. |
Fly by night |
Sep-06-11 03:22 PM |
#277 |
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Degrees don't mean anything if you don't have common sense. |
former9thward |
Sep-06-11 04:04 PM |
#278 |
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Well, if relevant degrees, extensive direct experience and the consensus of most researchers ... |
Fly by night |
Sep-06-11 07:57 PM |
#279 |
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If you are curious where I post you can do a search. |
former9thward |
Sep-06-11 09:46 PM |
#281 |
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You asked for it. You got it. |
Fly by night |
Sep-07-11 07:08 AM |
#285 |
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Correct. It's rightwing rhetoric. There IS NO lefty equivalent. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 02:07 PM |
#59 |
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Agree -- AND, we can live without jobs -- we can't live without the planet -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 08:08 PM |
#163 |
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He believes in window dressing, PR regulation that doesn't bother big business. |
Marr |
Sep-05-11 03:18 PM |
#94 |
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Something between the extremes |
creeksneakers2 |
Sep-05-11 08:07 PM |
#160 |
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According to the spokes criter, these terms do not... |
reACTIONary |
Sep-05-11 11:11 PM |
#226 |
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What an idiot. She sounds exactly like the Fox bobbleheads. n/t |
EFerrari |
Sep-05-11 11:19 AM |
#5 |
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Sunstein is the guy who wants to "cognitively infiltrate' conspiracy theorists. |
Octafish |
Sep-05-11 11:20 AM |
#6 |
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Sick little bastard. |
Rex |
Sep-05-11 11:22 AM |
#9 |
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Dropped onto SCOTUS. |
Octafish |
Sep-05-11 11:32 AM |
#12 |
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wow, Cass Sustein guest-blogged for paleo-conservative Instapundit |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 12:12 PM |
#27 |
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Thankyouverymuch, nashville_brook. Great resource, thar. |
Octafish |
Sep-05-11 04:09 PM |
#107 |
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I read that before, but did not know who he was. |
Rex |
Sep-05-11 12:29 PM |
#34 |
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A man's got to wear what a man's got to wear. |
Octafish |
Sep-05-11 03:48 PM |
#101 |
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oh yeah...the thing about govt infiltrating activist groups to increase faith in govt. |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 11:23 AM |
#10 |
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Amazing. |
Octafish |
Sep-05-11 11:49 AM |
#18 |
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so condescending...and why the fear of "ridiculous conspiracy theories" anyway? |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 12:02 PM |
#24 |
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Yeah, it makes it seem that he is worried about conspiracy in general |
Rex |
Sep-05-11 12:26 PM |
#32 |
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you took the words right out of my head. |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 12:38 PM |
#36 |
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Minds like his always project their intentions |
Rex |
Sep-05-11 02:09 PM |
#60 |
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More like flat out, bugsnot crazy. And we've got him on the payroll? Neato. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 07:53 PM |
#146 |
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Will someone PRIMARY this DINO? |
rasputinkhlyst |
Sep-05-11 04:08 PM |
#105 |
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Why is this guy in the White House? |
tblue |
Sep-05-11 12:26 PM |
#33 |
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The guy the pukes had writin' histeree also is a doozy -- Philip Zelikow. |
Octafish |
Sep-05-11 04:15 PM |
#111 |
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+1000% --- one more infiltrator -- Zelikow -- !! Thank you -- |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 09:02 PM |
#192 |
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That's incredibly creepy. Is there a rightwing nutwad this WH HASN'T brought to its breast? |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 01:37 PM |
#50 |
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I don't think they've tried to re-legitimize Dick Morris yet. |
Fuddnik |
Sep-05-11 04:06 PM |
#104 |
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O.M.G. , O.M.G. , O.M.G. , O.M.G. , O.M.G. , O.M.G. , O.M.G. , n/t |
2banon |
Sep-05-11 02:06 PM |
#57 |
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Reported the same below, before I noticed your post. Kudos for bringing these facts to light! -nt |
scentopine |
Sep-05-11 08:29 PM |
#174 |
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Look more like our White House has been "infiltrated" by fascists ..... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 09:01 PM |
#191 |
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Urecs. Who would have guessed? |
Vanje |
Sep-05-11 11:21 AM |
#7 |
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The right wing plan to continue to do just that |
Jamastiene |
Sep-05-11 01:26 PM |
#47 |
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Nothing wrong with getting in their face |
BeFree |
Sep-05-11 11:21 AM |
#8 |
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Haven't you been paying attention? We are divided. |
Curmudgeoness |
Sep-05-11 11:31 AM |
#11 |
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Oh? |
BeFree |
Sep-05-11 11:48 AM |
#16 |
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What I am saying is that when you run on a platform |
Curmudgeoness |
Sep-05-11 12:21 PM |
#30 |
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Sep-05-11 11:33 AM |
#13 |
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Unrec. Policies are not people... |
SidDithers |
Sep-05-11 11:37 AM |
#14 |
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Yep. nt |
sufrommich |
Sep-05-11 11:49 AM |
#17 |
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It is getting thin |
Vanje |
Sep-05-11 11:50 AM |
#20 |
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+1. word games. |
mopinko |
Sep-05-11 11:53 AM |
#21 |
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Environmentalists wanting to regulate corrupt, planet destroying |
sabrina 1 |
Sep-05-11 12:00 PM |
#23 |
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that sure seems to be the real plan. |
bbgrunt |
Sep-05-11 12:14 PM |
#28 |
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+1 |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 12:18 PM |
#29 |
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It appears that the White House |
Enthusiast |
Sep-05-11 04:32 PM |
#116 |
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Who said anything about 'bad'? |
joshcryer |
Sep-05-11 09:00 PM |
#189 |
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+1 |
Shining Jack |
Sep-06-11 02:24 AM |
#246 |
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Yes. Let's be fair here. The WH said environmentalists' "policies" are silly and unserious. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 01:59 PM |
#54 |
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To the WH "serious"= anything to win the approval of the corporate elite |
Lorien |
Sep-06-11 12:53 AM |
#234 |
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Sep-05-11 05:55 PM |
#126 |
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Deleted message |
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Sep-05-11 05:57 PM |
#127 |
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Deleted message |
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Sep-05-11 06:31 PM |
#136 |
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Yep. That "Rahm said liberals are retards" lie won't die, will it? |
Number23 |
Sep-05-11 07:09 PM |
#138 |
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So you support Obama's decision? The Republicans loved it. |
rhett o rick |
Sep-05-11 08:11 PM |
#165 |
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K&R |
Pooka Fey |
Sep-05-11 11:41 AM |
#15 |
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K&R |
amborin |
Sep-05-11 11:49 AM |
#19 |
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+1 |
stevedeshazer |
Sep-05-11 11:55 AM |
#22 |
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Sunstein is a scary creep. |
PufPuf23 |
Sep-05-11 12:06 PM |
#25 |
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I am still gobsmacked that Rahm |
zalinda |
Sep-05-11 12:32 PM |
#35 |
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Cass Sunstein. Enough said. |
mmonk |
Sep-05-11 12:07 PM |
#26 |
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playing the false equivalency game like so many naive fools after the Tuscon shooting |
alp227 |
Sep-05-11 12:23 PM |
#31 |
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+1 n/t |
LarryNM |
Sep-05-11 10:45 PM |
#222 |
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Emotionally, this make me want to find something better to do on election day.. |
lostnfound |
Sep-05-11 12:44 PM |
#37 |
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Quote does not say what the headline of this thread purports. |
TwilightGardener |
Sep-05-11 12:48 PM |
#38 |
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Sep-05-11 01:02 PM |
#41 |
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Cass Sunstein is essentially correct, if you actually read what he says. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 12:53 PM |
#39 |
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Which ones are the bad ones? |
mmonk |
Sep-05-11 01:20 PM |
#45 |
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Many licensing regulations are probably excessively burdensome. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 01:30 PM |
#48 |
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I guess my problem is we were just plunged into a mini depression |
mmonk |
Sep-05-11 01:48 PM |
#51 |
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But now you're arguing with the Republican Party, not with me. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 02:11 PM |
#61 |
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I agree. |
Enthusiast |
Sep-05-11 04:38 PM |
#118 |
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The whole comparison is a strawman. No one on the left spouts the equivalent of "job killing |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 02:12 PM |
#63 |
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exactly. |
Warren Stupidity |
Sep-05-11 02:51 PM |
#87 |
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PLUS ONE!.......nt |
Enthusiast |
Sep-05-11 04:41 PM |
#119 |
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+100000000 |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 08:43 PM |
#180 |
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so, it was a "mistake" to protect americans from smog? |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 02:17 PM |
#70 |
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No. Specifics are a different matter. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 02:24 PM |
#74 |
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Sunstein's false equivalency creates an environment where specifics don't matter |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 03:14 PM |
#92 |
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Sunstein's obviously true statement makes the precise point that specifics matter. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 03:18 PM |
#93 |
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please explain how undermining advocacy for regulation improves the ability to regulate |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 03:42 PM |
#100 |
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Some regulations are desired by industry |
DissedByBush |
Sep-05-11 02:30 PM |
#79 |
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There was nothing "knee jerk" about this. Environmentalists have been working on these regulations |
rhett o rick |
Sep-05-11 06:01 PM |
#130 |
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+1. It's what Americablog does...nt |
SidDithers |
Sep-05-11 02:06 PM |
#58 |
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No he is creating a false equivalency. |
Warren Stupidity |
Sep-05-11 02:50 PM |
#86 |
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No, Republicans don't actually claim that any more than liberals claim the opposite. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 04:15 PM |
#110 |
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So....been hiding under a rock? |
jeff47 |
Sep-05-11 09:24 PM |
#198 |
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Obviously Republicans think business is over-regulated. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 10:17 PM |
#209 |
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So, "No, Republicans don't actually claim that" was just a keyboard spasm then? (nt) |
jeff47 |
Sep-05-11 10:19 PM |
#210 |
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No. Different statements. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 10:26 PM |
#214 |
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Yet that's not what they are claiming. |
jeff47 |
Sep-05-11 10:31 PM |
#216 |
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Thank you. Would that I had managed to say this so clearly & concisely. / thread. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 09:05 PM |
#193 |
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Show me one person on the Left who says that. |
MannyGoldstein |
Sep-05-11 04:10 PM |
#108 |
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Show me one person on the Right who says that all regulations are bad. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 04:13 PM |
#109 |
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Good point. So a double-false equivalence. However... |
MannyGoldstein |
Sep-05-11 05:49 PM |
#125 |
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Not a double false equivalence. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 10:25 PM |
#212 |
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Can you quote some Republicans who have said that |
sabrina 1 |
Sep-06-11 01:41 AM |
#240 |
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Alan Greenspan. |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 08:44 PM |
#181 |
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Show me one that doesn't use "job killing deregulation" disingenuously to mean, "profit-reducing." |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 09:07 PM |
#195 |
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How 'bout Daryl Issa and the entire Republican House Caucus? |
jeff47 |
Sep-05-11 09:25 PM |
#199 |
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Another lie for the brainwashing campaign. nt |
mfcorey1 |
Sep-05-11 01:04 PM |
#42 |
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K&R |
Jamastiene |
Sep-05-11 01:23 PM |
#46 |
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Many here at DU equate lefties of all stripe with Republicans |
Doctor_J |
Sep-05-11 01:57 PM |
#53 |
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What a weird thought inversion that, is eh? Lefties critique Obama, & are therefore Republicans? Er? |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 02:14 PM |
#65 |
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You have it exactly backward. The White continually bashes the left more than |
Doctor_J |
Sep-05-11 04:06 PM |
#103 |
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I think you understood my post exactly backward. We are addressing two sides of the same coin |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 08:03 PM |
#152 |
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The White House is counting on the Obama bashing from the left bringing out the vote. |
joshcryer |
Sep-05-11 09:01 PM |
#190 |
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Seems the Obama WH wants a right-wing Congress next time |
Doctor_J |
Sep-05-11 02:02 PM |
#55 |
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It won't bother him. He'll just have to compromise harder with a fully Republican Congress.... |
xocet |
Sep-05-11 02:54 PM |
#89 |
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Job kill regulations? You mean like the ones that cleaned the water we drink and the air we breathe? |
neverforget |
Sep-05-11 02:11 PM |
#62 |
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Summation: Corporations need to destroy plant, nature, humans to create jobs" ... !!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 02:16 PM |
#68 |
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+1 it's the humans vs the dollars |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 02:26 PM |
#77 |
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The real irony; more regulation would have provided loads of jobs |
Lorien |
Sep-06-11 12:56 AM |
#235 |
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+1 -- |
defendandprotect |
Sep-06-11 01:55 AM |
#242 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-05-11 02:14 PM |
#64 |
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That is a link to a site that promotes 3rd party voting: |
sufrommich |
Sep-05-11 02:44 PM |
#85 |
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And those kind of insults - of your own voters - is offensive |
matt819 |
Sep-05-11 02:14 PM |
#66 |
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A president behaving as if he doesn't care if he wins ... and destroying the party ... hmmm? |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 02:17 PM |
#71 |
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no, they did not call environmentalists all those name you accused them of saying. nt |
seabeyond |
Sep-05-11 02:25 PM |
#75 |
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Yes, in effect he did. He called liberal opposition to "job-killing regulation" talk silly & unser- |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 02:42 PM |
#84 |
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if you have to say.. in effect, then you lose the stand. he did not call environmentalist those |
seabeyond |
Sep-05-11 03:09 PM |
#90 |
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You may have that distinction without difference, if you want it. The OP loses nothing by it. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 07:56 PM |
#148 |
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it does for me. making things up in headlines takes away from the substance. |
seabeyond |
Sep-05-11 08:03 PM |
#154 |
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Nothing was made up. Who did Sunstein mean, if not environmentalists? What was he saying, if not |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 08:57 PM |
#187 |
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wow, this nails it. |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 03:09 PM |
#91 |
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Let's be clear about what corporations are doing -- "killing the planet/humans" -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 07:51 PM |
#145 |
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Well, now... |
chervilant |
Sep-05-11 08:52 PM |
#186 |
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Rahm is gone but his thinking is not |
nadinbrzezinski |
Sep-05-11 02:26 PM |
#78 |
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Now we know it's Obama's thinking |
Hawkowl |
Sep-05-11 03:24 PM |
#97 |
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so you believe that all environmentalists believe |
hfojvt |
Sep-05-11 02:34 PM |
#80 |
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I regret that I only have |
Jamastiene |
Sep-05-11 02:37 PM |
#82 |
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John Aravosis: driving wedges as fast as he can |
struggle4progress |
Sep-05-11 02:38 PM |
#83 |
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Nothing like attacking the messenger rather than the message n/t |
FreeState |
Sep-05-11 05:59 PM |
#129 |
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I find the John Aravosis Show predictable: his magic act involves one trick: "Watch me |
struggle4progress |
Sep-05-11 06:16 PM |
#133 |
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Which has what to do with the actually topic? |
FreeState |
Sep-05-11 09:19 PM |
#197 |
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those are the same silly lefties that said offshore drilling was dangerous |
Enrique |
Sep-05-11 02:53 PM |
#88 |
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Unfair to say the "White House" said that (which is stupid anyway.....not on your part, n_b, but as |
tpsbmam |
Sep-05-11 03:22 PM |
#95 |
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A member of the Obama White House IS The White House |
Doctor_J |
Sep-05-11 04:04 PM |
#102 |
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Amazing how quickly Van Jones was gone. But then, |
sabrina 1 |
Sep-05-11 04:16 PM |
#112 |
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+1 |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 04:50 PM |
#120 |
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+1 n/t |
LarryNM |
Sep-05-11 10:52 PM |
#224 |
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Way to stabilize your base support. |
MoonRiver |
Sep-05-11 04:08 PM |
#106 |
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I hope he fixes that. they've done that shit before |
PatrynXX |
Sep-05-11 04:21 PM |
#113 |
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Do not fuck with this planet |
RedCloud |
Sep-05-11 04:29 PM |
#114 |
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When they fuck with the planet, they fuck with US! |
Lorien |
Sep-06-11 12:59 AM |
#237 |
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A reagan democrat administration. |
Jakes Progress |
Sep-05-11 04:53 PM |
#121 |
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No, that's not what they said. |
Warren DeMontague |
Sep-05-11 05:39 PM |
#122 |
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Truth...not mattering so much here. |
TwilightGardener |
Sep-05-11 06:03 PM |
#131 |
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Technically, the Head of WH Information didn't call out anyone. Because his whole premise is a lie. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 08:47 PM |
#182 |
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You know what, Dirk? THAT would make a much better OP on the subject than the one up top, here. |
Warren DeMontague |
Sep-06-11 02:04 AM |
#244 |
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Examining the NYT article, not seeing any ad hominem attacks on environmentalists. nt |
Deep13 |
Sep-05-11 07:06 PM |
#137 |
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You won't find what's not there... |
SidDithers |
Sep-05-11 07:18 PM |
#140 |
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Other than a WH official inventing a non-existent leftwing pro-regulation extremism, you mean? |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 08:12 PM |
#167 |
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There's a lot of dishonest bullshit around, these days. |
Warren DeMontague |
Sep-06-11 02:10 AM |
#245 |
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The criticism is not ad hominem and is directed to one argument... |
Deep13 |
Sep-06-11 10:37 AM |
#267 |
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You can't be serious. Don't you have anything better to do? |
ecstatic |
Sep-06-11 12:21 PM |
#275 |
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More anti-WH fodder from ex-GOP staffer-turned-"Proud Firebagger" Avarosis. |
CakeGrrl |
Sep-05-11 07:12 PM |
#139 |
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"The administration’s clean air agenda has been its greatest success story at EPA." |
ProSense |
Sep-05-11 07:31 PM |
#142 |
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Word games: is job-killing regulation an oxymoron? Chill out. (nt) |
philly_bob |
Sep-05-11 08:02 PM |
#151 |
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Silly is as silly does. A look at Cass Sunstein. Obama's Minister of Information is dangerous.... |
scentopine |
Sep-05-11 08:06 PM |
#158 |
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This horse's ass is the head of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs? |
tularetom |
Sep-05-11 08:07 PM |
#161 |
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Sunstein was on the short list for Stevens' Supreme Court seat |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 08:40 PM |
#178 |
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If Obama's re-elected, this is the kind of man he would nominate to the USSC ?Jesus wept! |
Divernan |
Sep-06-11 08:08 AM |
#258 |
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Decriminalized torture and wiretaps. Appoints web spy advocate to head Information Office... |
scentopine |
Sep-05-11 09:19 PM |
#196 |
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Just want to point out WH is also bashing their EPA advisors -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 08:11 PM |
#166 |
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If an uprising is coming, then certainly we should turn to AA and GLBT for advice -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 08:20 PM |
#171 |
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K and R |
OwnedByFerrets |
Sep-05-11 08:27 PM |
#173 |
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Your title misquotes what was said |
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin |
Sep-05-11 08:32 PM |
#176 |
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The title captures exactly what was said. To lay out Sunstein's whole strawman requires a paragraph. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 08:49 PM |
#183 |
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What part of this quote is misquoted? Here is what I read... |
scentopine |
Sep-05-11 08:51 PM |
#185 |
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That's not quite what he said -- the POLICIES are silly and have |
gateley |
Sep-05-11 09:06 PM |
#194 |
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Please elaborate the exact policies that you believe are silly and non-serious? |
scentopine |
Sep-05-11 09:27 PM |
#201 |
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For the love of God, I'm implying everything is fair and balanced? |
gateley |
Sep-05-11 10:25 PM |
#213 |
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Please elaborate on the exact policies you believe are silly... -nt |
scentopine |
Sep-05-11 10:38 PM |
#221 |
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DUPE. Weird. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 09:30 PM |
#202 |
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The WH Office of Information IS the WH. And the "policies" he called silly don't exist. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 09:30 PM |
#203 |
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To claim the policies have nothing to do with the people is a stupid argument. (nt) |
jeff47 |
Sep-05-11 09:31 PM |
#204 |
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I'm stupid. nt |
gateley |
Sep-05-11 10:21 PM |
#211 |
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Ok, lesson #1: Inanimate objects can't be "silly" or "unserious". They simply exist. |
jeff47 |
Sep-05-11 10:36 PM |
#220 |
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Rick Perry calls right wing "silly, as bad as left wing, with no place in serious discussions"... |
scentopine |
Sep-05-11 09:33 PM |
#205 |
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The quote doesn't say what it says it says!!!111 |
JoeyT |
Sep-05-11 09:44 PM |
#206 |
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Regulations only mitigate damages... |
maryf |
Sep-05-11 09:52 PM |
#207 |
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Thanks for the post. K-R. n/t |
Tripod |
Sep-05-11 10:14 PM |
#208 |
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Reading the WH's criticisms of "left wing" anything is painful for me. |
BlueIris |
Sep-05-11 10:34 PM |
#219 |
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Democratic party thinks every liberal can stay home, and Obama will still win by a landslide... |
scentopine |
Sep-05-11 10:51 PM |
#223 |
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very well said. |
nashville_brook |
Sep-06-11 06:45 AM |
#251 |
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The WH does a lot of silly things themselves... |
MrMickeysMom |
Sep-05-11 11:06 PM |
#225 |
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The WH is pushing false equivalency |
cprise |
Sep-06-11 12:03 AM |
#228 |
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Quoting Teabagger talking points... |
upi402 |
Sep-06-11 12:58 AM |
#236 |
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Yeah, teabaggers always accuse Obama of behaving like a republican. |
Lorien |
Sep-06-11 01:00 AM |
#238 |
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crazy |
fascisthunter |
Sep-06-11 10:50 AM |
#269 |
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I call the Obama administration "ridiculous," "silly," not "serious" and I equate them to GOPers |
begin_within |
Sep-06-11 01:23 AM |
#239 |
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+1 |
Shining Jack |
Sep-06-11 02:26 AM |
#247 |
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"...They only respect people who challenge them |
xxqqqzme |
Sep-06-11 03:56 AM |
#249 |
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Unrec for blatant clutching in the title,not borne out by the post, |
Denzil_DC |
Sep-06-11 08:47 AM |
#261 |
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K&R This name calling is unfortunate... Not a way to pick up votes in an |
midnight |
Sep-06-11 09:02 AM |
#262 |
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You're right that this White House responds only to those who go militant |
caseymoz |
Sep-06-11 09:28 AM |
#263 |
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bottom line is, it isn't personal, and neither they nor we should treat it that way... |
nashville_brook |
Sep-06-11 10:20 AM |
#265 |
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The interpretation in the subject line is "ridiculous," "silly," and not "serious." |
ZombieHorde |
Sep-06-11 09:45 AM |
#264 |
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He's a Neo-liberal with a "D" next to his name |
fascisthunter |
Sep-06-11 10:48 AM |
#268 |
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But .. but .. he hasn't lost the base ... |
Bake |
Sep-06-11 11:19 AM |
#270 |
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they must believe...or else. |
nashville_brook |
Sep-06-11 12:12 PM |
#273 |
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Nice disclaimer! |
DirkGently |
Sep-06-11 11:08 PM |
#283 |
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That is what Cass Sunstein says....but where does Obama stand? |
and-justice-for-all |
Sep-06-11 11:21 PM |
#284 |
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