| 75. "...The one-time “background check fee”..." is right out of the OP. It seems clear. nt |
| -We are a screwed up people... Arizona is gonna start charging people $25 to visit friends/relatives |
kpete |
Sep-05-11 09:15 AM |
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It's just $25 |
digitaln3rd |
Sep-05-11 09:17 AM |
#1 |
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It's a fee on visitors, not the inmates. |
Hosnon |
Sep-05-11 09:20 AM |
#4 |
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And the visitors are going to visit who? |
digitaln3rd |
Sep-05-11 10:22 AM |
#37 |
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So, you are okay with punishing the families for the criminal's behavior? |
GoCubsGo |
Sep-05-11 10:24 AM |
#38 |
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I highly doubt $25 is "punishing" families but.. |
digitaln3rd |
Sep-05-11 11:17 AM |
#44 |
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Don't count on my vote for you as Humanitarian of the Year |
pinboy3niner |
Sep-05-11 11:32 AM |
#48 |
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he probally also cheers on prison rape n/t |
RedRocco |
Sep-05-11 08:59 PM |
#128 |
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On what basis are you judging the families as "enabling the criminals"? |
suffragette |
Sep-05-11 11:33 AM |
#49 |
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Sep-05-11 12:42 PM |
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Let's just say my cousin |
Mendocino |
Sep-05-11 01:03 PM |
#77 |
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"A bribe to the state," indeed. It's mob rule in every way. |
joshcryer |
Sep-05-11 04:17 PM |
#120 |
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Of course they do. More than 10% of Arizona prisoners are contracted out to for-profit |
DrunkenBoat |
Sep-05-11 01:18 PM |
#79 |
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Thankyou. You get it. |
Gemini Cat |
Sep-05-11 04:11 PM |
#113 |
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OMG. |
yardwork |
Sep-05-11 02:34 PM |
#93 |
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To paraphrase Gene Kelly in "Inherit the Wind": |
SusanaMontana41 |
Sep-06-11 10:56 AM |
#180 |
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wtf? NO it supposidly for background checks on INNOCENT AMERICANS |
Drew Richards |
Sep-05-11 03:39 PM |
#106 |
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$25 is a hardship for any family who is underwater on their mortgage -- |
emcguffie |
Sep-05-11 08:52 PM |
#126 |
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Exactly - the guy that died from a tooth infection lacked $27 for medicine |
csziggy |
Sep-05-11 09:01 PM |
#129 |
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the families are enabling the criminals? |
fishwax |
Sep-05-11 10:05 PM |
#134 |
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Boy, talk about broad-brushing and insensitivity...you win the prize. nt |
raccoon |
Sep-06-11 08:09 AM |
#158 |
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You really should quit while you're ahead. |
SammyWinstonJack |
Sep-06-11 08:18 AM |
#161 |
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Why do you want to further cut contact with the community... |
Ferret Annica |
Sep-06-11 09:24 AM |
#167 |
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Your posts are absolutely stunning in their insensitivity and |
COLGATE4 |
Sep-06-11 09:39 AM |
#173 |
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Welcome to my ignore list |
COLGATE4 |
Sep-06-11 09:42 AM |
#174 |
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problem is these people are poor |
booley |
Sep-06-11 03:20 PM |
#183 |
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Number 1, You don't sound like a Democrat! #2 |
Auntie Bush |
Sep-05-11 12:07 PM |
#66 |
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America has 5% of the world's population and 25% of the world's prisoners |
Hippo_Tron |
Sep-05-11 11:43 AM |
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Sep-05-11 11:54 AM |
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Forgive me for not coddling criminals. |
digitaln3rd |
Sep-05-11 12:49 PM |
#74 |
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I'll simply repeat what Hippo Tron said |
tkmorris |
Sep-05-11 04:16 PM |
#117 |
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It may be that you are extraordinarily poorly informed. |
emcguffie |
Sep-05-11 08:54 PM |
#127 |
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A lot of those "criminals" are just people who got caught with a small |
tblue37 |
Sep-06-11 02:01 AM |
#144 |
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Because not charging a fee is |
ohheckyeah |
Sep-06-11 02:06 AM |
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Sep-06-11 07:06 AM |
#153 |
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And we really SHOULD charge the prisoner's kids who want to come see their dad |
AllyCat |
Sep-06-11 09:35 AM |
#169 |
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Sep-05-11 11:55 AM |
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See post # 66. It was meant for you...not post #38 |
Auntie Bush |
Sep-05-11 12:26 PM |
#67 |
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So why don't you join them if you think it's such a cushy existence? Look, Ma; No rent! |
WinkyDink |
Sep-05-11 12:43 PM |
#73 |
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Again, it's a fee on the visitors, not the inmates. |
Hosnon |
Sep-05-11 01:20 PM |
#80 |
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Do you REALLY think that everyone in prison is a 'petty thug'? |
MH1 |
Sep-05-11 02:07 PM |
#87 |
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Its a jail not a fucking zoo |
eilen |
Sep-05-11 08:30 PM |
#123 |
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tool |
snooper2 |
Sep-06-11 08:40 AM |
#164 |
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Your antecedents are all confused. Try again. |
truth2power |
Sep-06-11 09:00 AM |
#165 |
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The visitors are paying the $25 not the inmate, did |
doc03 |
Sep-05-11 09:23 AM |
#5 |
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+1 and these so-called Christians always forget |
K8-EEE |
Sep-05-11 11:14 AM |
#43 |
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They aren't 'Christians' in any meaningful sense of the term. (OK, |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-05-11 02:57 PM |
#99 |
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I believe it was Chaplain Tappman who was an Anabaptist in Catch 22, |
enuegii |
Sep-05-11 09:29 PM |
#132 |
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Oy vey, my memory goes rusty with age.Of course it's |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-05-11 10:21 PM |
#135 |
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-1 n/t |
FSogol |
Sep-05-11 09:24 AM |
#6 |
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really? |
xchrom |
Sep-05-11 09:33 AM |
#10 |
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O M G...if I say what I should, I will probably get tossed, so just OMG |
OwnedByFerrets |
Sep-05-11 09:33 AM |
#11 |
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No, we hold our tongues |
Cirque du So-What |
Sep-05-11 09:44 AM |
#20 |
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Same here. At a bare minimum, where is our Martin Luther King, Jr.? |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-05-11 09:59 AM |
#28 |
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I'm sitting here OMGing for the same reason! |
City Lights |
Sep-05-11 11:49 AM |
#60 |
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+1 You and me both. |
Gemini Cat |
Sep-05-11 04:17 PM |
#119 |
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In The Grapes of Wrath, some characters were 'Okies'... |
pinboy3niner |
Sep-05-11 04:25 PM |
#121 |
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oh, you know, brother. |
Bluebear |
Sep-05-11 09:35 AM |
#16 |
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"Just $25" = no access when you don't have a dollar in your pocket nt |
pinboy3niner |
Sep-05-11 09:38 AM |
#18 |
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That's $25 *per person* |
LastLiberal in PalmSprings |
Sep-06-11 12:10 AM |
#138 |
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Welcome to DU.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-05-11 09:38 AM |
#19 |
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I hope he doesn't ... |
ebayfool |
Sep-05-11 12:42 PM |
#72 |
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Reading comprehension is a must. Try it some time. |
TalkingDog |
Sep-05-11 09:49 AM |
#21 |
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My my my. nt |
SusanaMontana41 |
Sep-05-11 09:56 AM |
#25 |
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-1 |
Sherman A1 |
Sep-05-11 10:03 AM |
#31 |
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Right out of the box from a RW think tank. |
grahamhgreen |
Sep-05-11 10:10 AM |
#33 |
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Are people who haven't committed crimes exempt from the fee? |
FormerDittoHead |
Sep-05-11 11:28 AM |
#47 |
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What an idiotic statement. |
Lucian |
Sep-05-11 11:38 AM |
#52 |
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...such empathy... |
roody |
Sep-05-11 11:39 AM |
#54 |
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We need to start harvesting live prisoner organs to pay back society for their indiscretions. |
WingDinger |
Sep-05-11 11:47 AM |
#59 |
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And after their generous 'organ donation,' we can use them to make Soylent Green!1!! |
pinboy3niner |
Sep-05-11 11:55 AM |
#62 |
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Their bones can make fertilizer, |
Mendocino |
Sep-05-11 01:47 PM |
#86 |
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HAHA, nice. |
joshcryer |
Sep-05-11 04:06 PM |
#111 |
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gross |
H2O Man |
Sep-05-11 11:55 AM |
#64 |
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Maybe, you know, if people pay their taxes to help build these |
sabrina 1 |
Sep-05-11 12:31 PM |
#68 |
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Sep-05-11 12:58 PM |
#76 |
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The sins of the father....ring a bell anyone? |
rustydog |
Sep-05-11 01:14 PM |
#78 |
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Please back away from the broad brush, thanks. n/t |
PavePusher |
Sep-05-11 10:03 PM |
#133 |
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Not sure about Arizonans as a whole, but the state legislature is full |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-06-11 02:15 AM |
#148 |
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The fee is for the people who want to visit them, |
Jamastiene |
Sep-05-11 02:47 PM |
#97 |
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This includes people AWAITING TRIAL. In other words, not yet found guilty. In other words, INNOCENT |
AlienGirl |
Sep-05-11 03:31 PM |
#105 |
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I drove 150 miles to visit my brother in jail (he did some stupid stuff). |
joshcryer |
Sep-05-11 04:06 PM |
#110 |
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you're a good bro', jc |
Skittles |
Sep-06-11 02:06 AM |
#146 |
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Sep-05-11 04:17 PM |
#118 |
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dumbest post in years |
spanone |
Sep-05-11 09:02 PM |
#130 |
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Crazy Sheriff Joe, is that you? |
Brigid |
Sep-06-11 12:57 AM |
#141 |
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it is fucking SICKENING |
Skittles |
Sep-06-11 01:58 AM |
#143 |
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An even easier solution |
Bragi |
Sep-06-11 07:34 AM |
#156 |
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Obviously you and Arizona law makers can NOT be Christians. |
fasttense |
Sep-06-11 08:33 AM |
#163 |
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Maybe they are, you know, not guilty! nt |
DocMac |
Sep-06-11 09:12 AM |
#166 |
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So, I'm reading your idiotic repsonses and your pathetic view of the world... |
joeybee12 |
Sep-06-11 10:47 AM |
#179 |
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so you are 100% sure that every person in those prisons is 100% guilty? |
CreekDog |
Sep-06-11 11:01 AM |
#181 |
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This has got to be one of the more ignorant, flame-bait posts ever. |
Matariki |
Sep-06-11 03:56 PM |
#184 |
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Of course we know that everyone in prison is guilty. |
elocs |
Sep-07-11 08:32 AM |
#185 |
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You're paying to be registered and monitored by the government in order |
no_hypocrisy |
Sep-05-11 09:17 AM |
#2 |
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I would bet the vast majority of the families that have |
doc03 |
Sep-05-11 09:20 AM |
#3 |
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Bingo! A fee = fewer family visits |
pinboy3niner |
Sep-05-11 09:26 AM |
#8 |
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And Less Monitoring of Conditions, As a Result |
NashVegas |
Sep-05-11 10:22 AM |
#36 |
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Less visitors and then eventually no visitors |
MadMaddie |
Sep-05-11 08:50 PM |
#125 |
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There is a constitutional right to vote. Is there a constitutional right to visit prisoners? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Sep-07-11 08:35 AM |
#186 |
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And have warrants maybe? |
proud2BlibKansan |
Sep-05-11 09:34 AM |
#15 |
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I'd guess it's more likely a ploy to identify gang affiliates. |
Gormy Cuss |
Sep-05-11 10:10 AM |
#34 |
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They can do that by requiring ID/ |
Incitatus |
Sep-05-11 10:27 AM |
#39 |
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In my experience they write down the ID, and do the checks later. |
joshcryer |
Sep-05-11 04:15 PM |
#116 |
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They're not adding any checks to the screening they already do |
pinboy3niner |
Sep-05-11 10:29 AM |
#41 |
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Instead of taxing the fucking rich to pay for the prison industrial complex |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-05-11 03:05 PM |
#100 |
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"Round up the usual suspects" |
pinboy3niner |
Sep-05-11 03:13 PM |
#103 |
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Exactly. |
Jamastiene |
Sep-05-11 02:44 PM |
#96 |
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As someone said down thread, it's a "poor tax." Best way to put it. |
joshcryer |
Sep-05-11 04:13 PM |
#115 |
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Are their prisons under private contract? EOM |
Frustratedlady |
Sep-05-11 09:24 AM |
#7 |
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I'm pretty sure that the prison in Florence |
blueamy66 |
Sep-05-11 09:34 AM |
#14 |
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my first thought. |
mopinko |
Sep-05-11 10:02 AM |
#30 |
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What a bunch of horseshit. |
blueamy66 |
Sep-05-11 09:32 AM |
#9 |
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Sounds like "for profit" prisons. |
Vinca |
Sep-05-11 09:33 AM |
#12 |
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We have become a nation that puts greed over morality. |
Odin2005 |
Sep-05-11 09:33 AM |
#13 |
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Exactly so Odin. |
suffragette |
Sep-05-11 11:34 AM |
#50 |
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It's not $25.00 per visit, it's a one time fee. The OP doesn't |
sufrommich |
Sep-05-11 09:37 AM |
#17 |
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Well, to be fair, it says "to visit" not "per visit" |
Capitalocracy |
Sep-05-11 09:55 AM |
#24 |
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Oh, well, that makes things SO much better! |
Cirque du So-What |
Sep-05-11 09:57 AM |
#26 |
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On top of it taking "up to 60 days for the department to approve the applications" |
pinboy3niner |
Sep-05-11 10:20 AM |
#35 |
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"...The one-time “background check fee”..." is right out of the OP. It seems clear. nt |
Obamanaut |
Sep-05-11 12:50 PM |
#75 |
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One time $25 fee for each visitor |
LastLiberal in PalmSprings |
Sep-06-11 12:22 AM |
#140 |
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The legislature foolishly overlooked the fact that many of the terrorists will |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-06-11 01:55 AM |
#142 |
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Of course it would be for *each* visitor. If Visitor A had a background |
Obamanaut |
Sep-06-11 07:38 AM |
#157 |
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Do they really need to background check the visitors? |
treestar |
Sep-05-11 09:51 AM |
#22 |
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Looking for "Wants and Warrants" on the visitors. n/t |
monmouth |
Sep-05-11 09:58 AM |
#27 |
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Wouldn't that be a violation of the 4th ammendment? They can't run you for warrants unless they |
Erose999 |
Sep-06-11 09:35 AM |
#170 |
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The whole 4th Amendment quesiton is a moot point, as the |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-06-11 02:48 PM |
#182 |
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Yep. I've experienced that - any opportunity to find |
treestar |
Sep-05-11 09:59 AM |
#29 |
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Wow. That's cold. nt |
Honeycombe8 |
Sep-05-11 09:52 AM |
#23 |
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This is an absolute outrage and the Arizona chapter of the ACLU |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-05-11 10:06 AM |
#32 |
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They should be happy |
LaValle |
Sep-05-11 10:28 AM |
#40 |
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Sep-05-11 10:47 AM |
#42 |
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Yes, Honduras is a mess under the governance of the oligarchy |
EFerrari |
Sep-05-11 11:23 AM |
#45 |
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Oh boy, we're better than Honduras! |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-05-11 12:36 PM |
#70 |
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I rejoice in their good fortune. |
immoderate |
Sep-05-11 03:06 PM |
#101 |
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I alerted on you. nt |
raccoon |
Sep-06-11 08:14 AM |
#159 |
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Clearly, the Honduran's need a revolution! |
DocMac |
Sep-06-11 09:49 AM |
#176 |
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Why stop there? |
bluedigger |
Sep-05-11 11:28 AM |
#46 |
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They won't stop there. Once republican win this battle and are cheered |
bluestate10 |
Sep-05-11 01:35 PM |
#85 |
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+1, it won't stop there is right. |
joshcryer |
Sep-05-11 04:07 PM |
#112 |
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Put a taxi meter in the patrol car |
KurtNYC |
Sep-06-11 08:19 AM |
#162 |
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how disgusting-- and a perfect "conservative" policy |
spooked911 |
Sep-05-11 11:36 AM |
#51 |
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I had to pay a fee for my background checks for a job and a permit. |
aikoaiko |
Sep-05-11 11:39 AM |
#53 |
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There is no background check and the fee goes to repair and maintenance |
pinboy3niner |
Sep-05-11 11:44 AM |
#57 |
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Are you saying that they simply record that info without looking in a database? |
aikoaiko |
Sep-05-11 12:35 PM |
#69 |
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Then is there an assumption that |
Mendocino |
Sep-05-11 01:34 PM |
#83 |
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No, but the prison has an interest in prisoners not associating with known criminals. |
aikoaiko |
Sep-05-11 02:20 PM |
#90 |
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Keeping all the criminals together in one place keeps them from "associating with known cirminals" |
Erose999 |
Sep-06-11 09:39 AM |
#171 |
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True, but the fellow incarcerated convicts are also under the control of prison. |
aikoaiko |
Sep-06-11 10:40 AM |
#178 |
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Back when i studied corrections. Contact with the family had a very nice correlation |
dembotoz |
Sep-05-11 11:43 AM |
#55 |
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Nah, recidivism helps their bottom line, right? |
MH1 |
Sep-05-11 02:11 PM |
#88 |
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Why not just charge by the weight of the drugs and weapons the visitors bring in? |
Shagbark Hickory |
Sep-05-11 11:44 AM |
#58 |
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Thank you so much for taking Janet. See, really no effect at all. |
Safetykitten |
Sep-05-11 12:06 PM |
#65 |
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Not sure where I see in their Bible about charging to be allowed to visit |
Patiod |
Sep-05-11 01:26 PM |
#81 |
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Sounds like a good model |
Morning Dew |
Sep-05-11 01:35 PM |
#84 |
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Another case where republican dominant governments start by picking on the weakest. |
bluestate10 |
Sep-05-11 01:30 PM |
#82 |
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Oh, that oughta do a lot for morale. |
KamaAina |
Sep-05-11 02:12 PM |
#89 |
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If Texas is the "Laboratory for bad government"... |
ThoughtCriminal |
Sep-05-11 02:20 PM |
#91 |
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So you should *pay* to visit a loved one in prison |
War Horse |
Sep-05-11 02:33 PM |
#92 |
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Their first line of thinking is: The state needs money |
pinboy3niner |
Sep-05-11 02:40 PM |
#94 |
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You are probably right |
War Horse |
Sep-05-11 02:54 PM |
#98 |
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The article states its a "one-time background check fee" for visitors - |
lynne |
Sep-05-11 02:43 PM |
#95 |
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Except they don't do a background check. It's a poor tax. |
immoderate |
Sep-05-11 03:09 PM |
#102 |
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+1000 |
pinboy3niner |
Sep-05-11 03:17 PM |
#104 |
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I just want to thank everyone in this thread who is opposed to this. |
ZombieHorde |
Sep-05-11 03:48 PM |
#107 |
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If you want to do a bit more, you can donate to the following |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-05-11 03:59 PM |
#108 |
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I truly love this thread, reminds me of old school DU. |
joshcryer |
Sep-05-11 04:13 PM |
#114 |
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I cannot believe this will pass Constitutional muster... |
rasputin1952 |
Sep-05-11 04:05 PM |
#109 |
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forget rehabilitation |
southmost |
Sep-05-11 05:31 PM |
#122 |
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What did they say? Privatize it, nothing will really change. |
MadMaddie |
Sep-05-11 08:44 PM |
#124 |
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The (R)s are going for what I call "The Full Matthew"! |
Motown_Johnny |
Sep-05-11 09:14 PM |
#131 |
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Excellent citation. The Repukes are still on the Book of Leviticus. They |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-05-11 10:33 PM |
#136 |
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And here's another one, my personal favorite: |
Brigid |
Sep-06-11 12:15 AM |
#139 |
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This Extortion is ridiculous and unnecessary. There is no reason to burden |
Ilsa |
Sep-05-11 11:16 PM |
#137 |
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So, on top of how unfair this is |
ohheckyeah |
Sep-06-11 02:19 AM |
#149 |
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I call them 'dangerous' men and women, so called because |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-06-11 02:23 AM |
#150 |
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Dangerous, yes, |
ohheckyeah |
Sep-06-11 02:44 AM |
#152 |
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Insofar as Hannah Arendt used the phrase 'banality of evil' to refer |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-06-11 09:49 AM |
#175 |
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This is how far into fascism and fascist legal system we are at this point -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-06-11 02:35 AM |
#151 |
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Guess what a prison will have to do to get more visitors in order to increase profits? |
Chimichurri |
Sep-06-11 07:26 AM |
#154 |
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My Question |
RobinA |
Sep-06-11 07:33 AM |
#155 |
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i dont really have a problem with it |
rdking647 |
Sep-06-11 08:17 AM |
#160 |
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For the brazillionth time . . . |
Brigid |
Sep-06-11 09:39 AM |
#172 |
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Wish we could assess a fee for people who sound off without even reading the OP first. |
dixiegrrrrl |
Sep-07-11 09:28 AM |
#187 |
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Sep-06-11 09:53 AM |
#177 |
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Gov's in on that private for profit prison industrial complex. Surprised she's only charging 25 |
lonestarnot |
Sep-06-11 09:25 AM |
#168 |
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If they get away with this, the fee WILL increase. |
dixiegrrrrl |
Sep-07-11 10:02 AM |
#188 |
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