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117. remember all of Gary Hart's talk about "special unrest" in 84 - he meant unions
Edited on Mon Sep-05-11 02:24 AM by Douglas Carpenter
His whole attack on Mondale was based on attempting to paint Mondale as an old style big spending, big government liberal, pro-union New Dealer. Gary Hart may have begun his political career has George McGovern's campaign manager - but a McGovern Democrat he is not. Nor is he a New Deal Democrat or a Great Society Democrat and certainly not a social-democrat like Bernie Sanders. In fact he is one of the original "New Democrats" the same school of thought of Clinton, Obama, the DLC and that lot. If you are looking for a liberal or progressive challenger to President Obama - you need to look somewhere else.
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  -Gary Hart announces "Party of Patriots"! Primary challenge coming?? Hart2008  Sep-04-11 05:47 PM   #0 
  - ROFL  dionysus   Sep-04-11 05:49 PM   #1 
  - You're about 85 "spit take" smilies short for this thread...nt  SidDithers   Sep-04-11 05:51 PM   #4 
  - He's a little old to run - even Bernie is 5 years younger  TBF   Sep-04-11 05:51 PM   #2 
  - There's no age restriction on sound thinking and moral courage.  hulka38   Sep-05-11 05:32 PM   #209 
  - Where's the beef?  bluestateguy   Sep-04-11 05:51 PM   #3 
  - Hart is still trying to regain his land legs. Things were a little bouncy on the Monkey Business. nt  bluestate10   Sep-05-11 04:49 PM   #196 
  - He's talking Democratic ideals. That's bloviating?  SusanaMontana41   Sep-06-11 03:19 PM   #228 
     - There is a certain angry element that can't discuss issues without resorting to ad hominem attacks.  Hart2008   Sep-06-11 05:03 PM   #232 
  - You are insane, Hart. Seriously. This President will not be primaried.  secondwind   Sep-04-11 05:52 PM   # 
  - and he won't be President much longer either.  ThomWV   Sep-04-11 05:53 PM   #7 
  - Barring another recession.. he wins.  DCBob   Sep-04-11 06:32 PM   #26 
  - What do you mean "another recession"?  girl gone mad   Sep-04-11 06:53 PM   #35 
  - cleary you dont understand the meaning of a recession.  DCBob   Sep-04-11 06:56 PM   #40 
     - Of course I do.  girl gone mad   Sep-04-11 07:16 PM   #50 
     - Nothing soft about this graph..  DCBob   Sep-04-11 07:19 PM   #52 
        - That would be your definition of a recession.  girl gone mad   Sep-04-11 07:32 PM   #56 
        - so you use a real measure instead of  SwampG8r   Sep-04-11 11:05 PM   #91 
        - 'widening wealth gap'. That's the one.  BNJMN   Sep-05-11 12:45 AM   #110 
        - its the definition most economists use.. two consecutive quarters with decline in GDP.  DCBob   Sep-05-11 06:29 AM   #134 
        - Your pretty little graph doesn't mean sqaut to the unemployed. n/t  DeSwiss   Sep-04-11 11:27 PM   #98 
        - Or the employed losing their health care, wages, chance at college, etc. [nt]  BNJMN   Sep-05-11 12:46 AM   #111 
        - yes I agree.  DCBob   Sep-05-11 06:35 AM   #138 
        - Well, Wall St's doing great. Where's the graph for the Main St.?  sabrina 1   Sep-05-11 01:41 AM   # 
        - GDP is not a measure of Wall Street.. its a measure of the entire nation's production.  DCBob   Sep-05-11 06:33 AM   #136 
        - Yes, I try to tell people everything is great  Broderick   Sep-05-11 04:59 AM   #127 
        - you are confused.. things are not great.  DCBob   Sep-05-11 06:30 AM   #135 
           - I see pretty ponies  Broderick   Sep-05-11 08:11 AM   #147 
           - wow, you have seen the light! hallelujah!  DCBob   Sep-05-11 08:16 AM   #148 
           - And doing drugs. Orrin Hatch said we the unemployed should be drug tested.  SusanaMontana41   Sep-06-11 03:15 PM   #226 
           - Only 1% of economic growth has gone into wages  Muskypundit   Sep-05-11 04:40 PM   #193 
        - Those last two bars are probably within the margin of error ...  dawg   Sep-05-11 08:24 AM   #150 
        - yes, considering the effects of the teabagger Republicans, we could go negative next year.  DCBob   Sep-05-11 08:51 AM   #152 
        - don't try to peddle "trickle down" here  Claudia Jones   Sep-05-11 11:06 AM   #167 
     - People can't use graphs or definitions to pay their bills.  gkhouston   Sep-04-11 07:57 PM   #72 
     - of course, that was not my point.  DCBob   Sep-05-11 06:53 AM   #143 
     - Clearly you think some statistical wanking is going to hide economic disaster from the victims.  JackRiddler   Sep-04-11 11:37 PM   #101 
        - no.  DCBob   Sep-05-11 06:53 AM   #144 
        - Well put JackRiddler  anamandujano   Sep-05-11 03:34 PM   #178 
  - Another recession? Strange way of looking at things.  cherokeeprogressive   Sep-04-11 06:55 PM   # 
  - you dont either.  DCBob   Sep-04-11 06:57 PM   #42 
     - For millions of Americans  bayareamike   Sep-04-11 07:54 PM   #70 
        - Only because callous indifference is better than outright malice.  Creideiki   Sep-04-11 10:16 PM   #82 
        - thats a winner for the Obama '12 campaign  me b zola   Sep-05-11 03:32 AM   #121 
           - I think we have a winner!  undeterred   Sep-05-11 05:36 AM   #130 
           - You just cancelled any potential membership in the new club  Sheepshank   Sep-05-11 09:15 PM   #218 
        - yes but as a whole things have improved and are still gradually improving.  DCBob   Sep-05-11 06:43 AM   #140 
        - Ignorance is Obama's belief that the GOP would not try to block every initiative.  Exilednight   Sep-05-11 08:27 PM   #216 
        - what's disturbing  newspeak   Sep-05-11 10:55 AM   #166 
  - Yes, but it seems we may be just on the cusp of the dreaded  coalition_unwilling   Sep-04-11 10:10 PM   #80 
  - Yes I agree. There is serious risk of falling back into a double-dip..  DCBob   Sep-05-11 06:48 AM   #142 
  - Um, you mean, like, the Depression that never stopped since 2007 or so?  JackRiddler   Sep-04-11 11:36 PM   #100 
  - We're still in a recession. n/t  Exilednight   Sep-05-11 08:18 PM   #214 
  - The prognostications from either side carry the same weight...  LanternWaste   Sep-06-11 03:25 PM   #229 
  - Just 5.5 more years.  Major Hogwash   Sep-04-11 08:13 PM   #74 
  - Oh he'll be primaried but not buy anyone who would have a chance to beat him  LynneSin   Sep-04-11 07:47 PM   #64 
  - ah hillary  DonCoquixote   Sep-05-11 12:19 AM   #107 
  - He says nothing of primarying anyone  karynnj   Sep-07-11 01:28 PM   #245 
  - Hmm interesting, right on schedule  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-04-11 05:52 PM   #5 
  - I'm in!  tblue   Sep-04-11 05:52 PM   #6 
  - No, you just can't talk about him.  Le Taz Hot   Sep-05-11 06:47 AM   #141 
  - what new party?  Sheepshank   Sep-05-11 04:52 PM   #197 
  - Sounds to me like he's in the process of forming a 4th  shraby   Sep-04-11 05:54 PM   #8 
  - Yeah, it will take time but it's long overdue.  tblue   Sep-04-11 05:56 PM   #11 
  - I like the sound of it, but I would add one person  hfojvt   Sep-04-11 05:55 PM   #9 
  - Progressives' dreams are finally answered...  SidDithers   Sep-04-11 05:56 PM   #10 
  - Where does it say that? nt  tblue   Sep-04-11 05:58 PM   #13 
  - Seems to be what the OP is hoping for...nt  SidDithers   Sep-04-11 06:01 PM   #14 
  - "DU is not the real world." It's a lot closer to the real world than America is. America's loss.  saras   Sep-04-11 06:43 PM   #30 
     - No, I am afraid the real world is out there  quaker bill   Sep-05-11 05:43 AM   #133 
  - he is all the way up in canada  SwampG8r   Sep-04-11 11:07 PM   #93 
  - Where does it say any such thing, Sid?  Bluenorthwest   Sep-04-11 06:07 PM   #16 
  - Does nobody read the OP?...  SidDithers   Sep-04-11 06:15 PM   #20 
     - Kind of a leap to think Hart would be the party's candidate imo.  cherokeeprogressive   Sep-04-11 06:18 PM   #21 
     - If it's not Hart, then we're back to the nameless white-knight saviour...  SidDithers   Sep-04-11 06:28 PM   #24 
        - Nice walk-back. Kudos.  cherokeeprogressive   Sep-04-11 06:40 PM   #28 
           - White-knight is pretty common phrasing for saviour or "knight in shining armour"..  SidDithers   Sep-04-11 08:21 PM   #76 
     - I just read this whole sub-thread  Number23   Sep-04-11 11:00 PM   #89 
  - I suspect it's the crowd who thinks Doonesbury is still 'edgy'.  Warren DeMontague   Sep-05-11 05:26 PM   #208 
     - Now you've done it...  SidDithers   Sep-05-11 07:32 PM   #211 
        - what can I say  Warren DeMontague   Sep-05-11 07:38 PM   #212 
  - Sounds more like a 3rd party than a primary opponent n/t  arcane1   Sep-04-11 05:57 PM   #12 
  - GARY HART: Well, I think we need a courageous second party  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 02:12 AM   #119 
  - I never thought I would say this, but worth a consideration.  mod mom   Sep-04-11 06:05 PM   #15 
  - Now there's a name that takes me back to my freshman year...  eShirl   Sep-04-11 06:09 PM   #17 
  - '83? Holy shit. That long ago? I thought he ran in '88.  TwilightGardener   Sep-04-11 06:11 PM   #18 
     - I looked it up in case my memory's playing tricks, and he ran in both '84 and '88  eShirl   Sep-04-11 06:59 PM   #45 
        - Gallup polls in '84 showed Hart beating Reagan. Hart always polled better than Mondale vs. Reagan.  Hart2008   Sep-04-11 07:13 PM   #48 
           - "Monkey Business."  WinkyDink   Sep-04-11 07:49 PM   #66 
              - "Duck Soup" was the better Marx Brothers movie.  Hart2008   Sep-04-11 08:26 PM   #77 
              - That whole mess seems quaint now, after John Edwards  eShirl   Sep-05-11 04:59 AM   #126 
                 - A baby ups the ante.  WinkyDink   Sep-05-11 06:34 AM   #137 
                 - And John Edwards's problems pale in comparison to Bill Clinton's NT  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 03:23 PM   #175 
  - the media elevated the teaparty in three short years. they would do no such thing for dems.  spanone   Sep-04-11 06:13 PM   #19 
  - Sounds Democratic, supporting the interests of the people over the interests of corporations.  Octafish   Sep-04-11 06:18 PM   #22 
  - Too funny. A president supported by over 80% of his party's base  NYC Liberal   Sep-04-11 06:24 PM   #23 
  - Wow... I must have fringe friends & acquaintances because i' m not seeing that 80%  mod mom   Sep-04-11 10:38 PM   #87 
     - Yes, you must have. Between 80 and 90% of the Democratic base  NYC Liberal   Sep-05-11 04:10 AM   #122 
        - well FYI the Obama administration should start worrying about Ohio.  mod mom   Sep-05-11 10:38 AM   #163 
           - I'm not talking about personal anecdotes. nt  NYC Liberal   Sep-05-11 10:47 AM   #164 
              - What I am talking about are connections to party activists who did a lot of the legwork  mod mom   Sep-05-11 12:34 PM   #171 
                 - It's politics. Nobody should feel secure. nt  NYC Liberal   Sep-05-11 02:58 PM   #172 
  - The MSM will be a-ok as long as it spells trouble for Dems holding the WH,  CakeGrrl   Sep-04-11 06:31 PM   #25 
  - What is Hart, like..75? 80? He's back there with Cosby sweaters  TwilightGardener   Sep-04-11 06:39 PM   #27 
  - He's 74. What about it? We've learned YOUNGSTERS don't make good Presidents.  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-04-11 06:43 PM   #31 
  - Three youngsters made good Presidents. Obama is one of them.  TwilightGardener   Sep-04-11 06:45 PM   #32 
  - JFK and Clinton are the exceptions. Obama, not so much.  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-04-11 06:55 PM   #38 
  - We'll have to differ. I think Obama is a good President. I want to see him re-elected.  TwilightGardener   Sep-04-11 06:57 PM   #43 
     - We do differ and I think he needs to be challenged and  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-04-11 07:01 PM   #47 
  - Obama who, because the guy with that asme last name currently in the WH is a fucking disaster...  truebrit71   Sep-06-11 03:19 PM   #227 
  - AND GET OFF MAH LAWN!  Warren DeMontague   Sep-04-11 07:42 PM   #60 
  - Ageism! That is offensive. NT  Hart2008   Sep-04-11 07:45 PM   #62 
     - Okay, be offended.  Warren DeMontague   Sep-04-11 07:51 PM   #68 
  - Yeah, Reagan was just swell.  WinkyDink   Sep-04-11 07:49 PM   #65 
  - Being 75-80 doesn't mean that you're delusional  Raine   Sep-04-11 06:52 PM   #34 
  - No. Being that age and having been mostly out of office and politics, having crashed and burned  TwilightGardener   Sep-04-11 06:54 PM   #37 
     - It's NOT delusional in this climate. People are STARVED for another choice.  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-04-11 06:58 PM   #44 
     - I can only speak for myself--I am happy with my choice. I only hope he can  TwilightGardener   Sep-04-11 07:00 PM   #46 
     - Amen, it's obvious that Gary needs a little attention  treestar   Sep-05-11 10:12 AM   #156 
     - In '68 Eugene McCarthy didn't expect to win when he challenged LBJ.  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 03:29 PM   #176 
  - He's just in it for the babes.  MilesColtrane   Sep-04-11 11:56 PM   #104 
  - So that is why he mortgaged his house to run for President and never took money from a PAC? NT  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 03:36 PM   #179 
  - Was Benjamin Franklin delusional at the Consitutional Convention? He was 81 at the time.  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 04:07 PM   #186 
  - Really, with unemployment over 9% and the foreign occupations, it's old and still a wrong story.  Hart2008   Sep-04-11 06:56 PM   #41 
     - Small point for lovers of Latin. It's 'Cui bono?' not 'Qui bono?' , meaning  coalition_unwilling   Sep-04-11 10:23 PM   #84 
     - Blaming the Clenis is so...1998....nt  msanthrope   Sep-04-11 11:49 PM   #103 
     - "there has never been a woman who has come forward by name to claim any kind of sexual impropriety"  MilesColtrane   Sep-05-11 05:07 PM   #204 
     - He and his wife had separated and both apparantly dated other people before reconciling.  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 05:42 PM   #210 
     - I never thought I could dislike Bill Clinton more, but this does it  karynnj   Sep-07-11 01:50 PM   #246 
        - All of that DLC money was used to take over the party.  Hart2008   Sep-09-11 08:56 AM   #257 
  - As long as it's NOT another Obama Bipartisan, come together and sing Kumbaya bullshit.  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-04-11 06:41 PM   #29 
  - All I remember of Gart Hart is that Donna Rice was hawt.  aikoaiko   Sep-04-11 06:49 PM   #33 
  - She is now a profe$$ional kristian kook konservative  Tom Ripley   Sep-04-11 06:54 PM   #36 
  - Yes. She is a national level christian conservative speaker. nt  bluestate10   Sep-05-11 04:53 PM   #198 
  - She might of been "Hawt" .... but she couldn't work a shredder  BOHICA12   Sep-04-11 10:10 PM   #81 
  - Donna Rice was Don Henley's former girlfriend. Henley was a Hart supporter.  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 05:15 AM   #128 
  - 10 minute penalty for gratuitous use of smileys  rucky   Sep-04-11 06:56 PM   #39 
  - BAD NAME! He needs to think of something else! Ron Paul's "American Patriot Party" is too close to  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-04-11 07:14 PM   #49 
  - He doesn't have a web site up yet? He should! He could start raising MONEY$$$$$$$.  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-04-11 07:17 PM   #51 
  - Are you talking about the same Gary Hart who burst our bubble  Curmudgeoness   Sep-04-11 07:19 PM   #53 
  - ...  cherokeeprogressive   Sep-04-11 07:25 PM   #55 
  - I have not heard all this, and thank you for the info.  Curmudgeoness   Sep-04-11 07:42 PM   #59 
  - Frankly, I didn't know it either. I remember when it all went down, but never knew the background.  cherokeeprogressive   Sep-04-11 07:47 PM   #63 
  - Montreal headlines, September 6, 2001: "Hart Predicts Terrorist Attacks on America."  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 12:42 AM   #109 
  - Also, thanks for the info  swilton   Sep-04-11 11:02 PM   #90 
  - Retroactive blaming of the Clenis is so.....1998.....nt  msanthrope   Sep-04-11 11:40 PM   #102 
  - Please educate yourself about the old WRONG MSM propaganda against Hart.  Hart2008   Sep-04-11 07:38 PM   #57 
  - Now who's naive, Kay? Her female shipmate's story:  WinkyDink   Sep-04-11 07:55 PM   #71 
  - This is the same Lynn Armandt who brought Rice to the yacht and then stole her photos!  Hart2008   Sep-04-11 08:21 PM   #75 
     - If you think handsome Hart had no affair with the beauteous Rice,  WinkyDink   Sep-05-11 06:36 AM   #139 
        - His wife didn't believe anything happened and they have been married 54 years now.  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 03:21 PM   #174 
           - Oh, yes; always believe what political people and their spouses say to the press!  WinkyDink   Sep-07-11 07:51 AM   #240 
              - It is more cynical to believe M$M gossip and innuendo about sex, which all parties deny.NT  Hart2008   Sep-08-11 05:03 AM   #250 
  - Thanks for the information. I have seriously never heard this  Curmudgeoness   Sep-04-11 10:00 PM   #79 
     - Consider what was the deal between Dukakis and Clinton that awarded Clinton the keynote speech?  Hart2008   Sep-06-11 03:11 PM   #225 
  - And the name of the yacht - Monkey Business -- priceless :). Brought  coalition_unwilling   Sep-04-11 10:25 PM   #85 
  - "Monkey Business" was a Marx Brothers movie from 1931 and another 1952 movie  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 12:56 AM   #115 
  - Talk about "disappointment!"  treestar   Sep-05-11 10:12 AM   #157 
  - Agreed, Obama has disappointed the party very much. NT  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 04:34 PM   #192 
     - This is about Hart  treestar   Sep-06-11 09:01 PM   #234 
        - You are disappointed that his warning of terrorist attacks on America were ignored by Bush? NT  Hart2008   Sep-07-11 02:48 AM   #235 
  - Very same. And that mistress has become a christian conservative speaker  bluestate10   Sep-05-11 04:56 PM   #199 
     - Just for information that you may not know, you might want to look  Curmudgeoness   Sep-06-11 06:49 PM   #233 
  - I'm open. n/t  Mojambo   Sep-04-11 07:19 PM   #54 
  - Oh, yeah, Gary Hart. I remember that guy.  Warren DeMontague   Sep-04-11 07:40 PM   #58 
  - Last seen on the Monkey Business love boat. nt  bluestate10   Sep-05-11 04:57 PM   #200 
     - Last seen predicting terrorist attacks on America September 6, 2001  Hart2008   Sep-06-11 12:43 AM   #222 
  - he should team up with that "Coffee Party" lady  Warren DeMontague   Sep-04-11 07:43 PM   #61 
  - I'll check it out but when I think of a populist revolutionary from the left,  mmonk   Sep-04-11 07:51 PM   #67 
  - Gary's ship, 'Monkey Business', sailed a very long time ago.  stevedeshazer   Sep-04-11 07:53 PM   #69 
  - Sorry, unlike Clinton and Edwards there were never any bastard love child claims.  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 04:20 AM   #124 
  - How do you think the media will treat a Hart candidacy?  stevedeshazer   Sep-05-11 12:13 PM   #170 
     - I imagine your opinion will receive all the credibility it warrants...  LanternWaste   Sep-06-11 03:27 PM   #230 
  - At least he was a trailblazer.  undeterred   Sep-05-11 05:42 AM   #132 
     - Bwah! "Trailblazer"?! Even Ike had a mistress! (And hello, FDR!)  WinkyDink   Sep-07-11 07:52 AM   #241 
        - LBJ's mistress claims LBJ, Nixon and J. Edgar Hoover conspired to kill JFK!  Hart2008   Sep-08-11 08:58 AM   #251 
  - Principles in politics is an oxymoron. In government a miracle.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Sep-04-11 07:58 PM   #73 
  - I can't figure out what the bottom line is. I hope Mr Hart...  Little Star   Sep-04-11 09:10 PM   #78 
  - I guess I won't be able to join the Patriot Party. I believe with Samuel  coalition_unwilling   Sep-04-11 10:20 PM   #83 
  - gary hart?  KG   Sep-04-11 10:35 PM   #86 
  - I'll definitely, happily vote for him if he primaries Obama.  Zorra   Sep-04-11 10:48 PM   #88 
  - Same same here  swilton   Sep-04-11 11:07 PM   #92 
  - If California's Jerry Brown  swilton   Sep-04-11 11:12 PM   #94 
  - Gary Hart and Jerry Brown were classmates at Yale Law School. They are the class of '64.NT  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 05:28 AM   #129 
  - ROFL  Scurrilous   Sep-04-11 11:16 PM   #95 
  - So you are predicting that Hart wins the New Hampshire primary again? NT  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 08:02 AM   #146 
     - He's a 'shoe-in.' n/t  Scurrilous   Sep-05-11 08:22 AM   #149 
  - " to keep the government off our backs by keeping our hands out of its pockets"  Nye Bevan   Sep-04-11 11:20 PM   #96 
  - Yeah, that was a head scratcher for me too. It was like he channeled Ron Paul there for a minute.  TwilightGardener   Sep-04-11 11:24 PM   #97 
  - That refers to banks wanting government bailouts without government regulations.  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 01:37 AM   #116 
     - I hope you're right. He should clarify that.  tblue   Sep-05-11 04:11 AM   #123 
        - It is a very old Gary Hart quote rebutting Reagan's "get the government of your back".  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 04:47 AM   #125 
           - Gary Hart has addressed this point very directly on his blog!  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 03:46 PM   #184 
  - Gary Hart? Am I supposed to be impressed?  MrScorpio   Sep-04-11 11:28 PM   #99 
  - Gary Hart caught lightening in a bottle twice in Presidential campaigns: 1972 and 1984.  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 04:29 PM   #191 
  - Gary Hart=John Edwards in a Members Only jacket  MilesColtrane   Sep-05-11 12:00 AM   #105 
  - Out come the knives.  BNJMN   Sep-05-11 12:52 AM   #114 
     - Rumors, innuendo, and character assassination is all they ever had against Hart. NT  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 01:59 AM   #118 
     - Gary, is this you??  stevedeshazer   Sep-05-11 11:40 AM   #169 
     - No. Out comes the truth.  bluestate10   Sep-05-11 05:02 PM   #201 
  - People need to listen up. Its time has come.  Joe Fields   Sep-05-11 12:02 AM   #106 
  - Yesteryear's News  notGaryOldman   Sep-05-11 12:36 AM   #108 
  - Monkey business!  Whats_Happening   Sep-05-11 12:49 AM   #112 
  - Horse Feathers, Duck Soup, Animal Crackers, A Day At The Races, and A Night At The Opera!  Hart2008   Sep-06-11 08:25 AM   #223 
  - NO 'SCREAMERS OR SHOUTERS'? WHAT THE HELL??!?!?!??!  BNJMN   Sep-05-11 12:49 AM   #113 
  - +1  Supply Side Jesus   Sep-05-11 02:58 AM   #120 
  - remember all of Gary Hart's talk about "special unrest" in 84 - he meant unions  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-05-11 01:41 AM   #117 
  - remember all of Gary Hart's talk about "special interest" in 84 - he meant unions  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-05-11 05:40 AM   #131 
  - The 49 state loss confirmed Hart was right and Mondale was a dinosaur.  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 05:05 PM   #203 
     - Few things have harmed the progressive cause more than the marginalization of organized labor.  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-05-11 10:52 PM   #219 
        - Gary Hart opposed every part of Reagan's economic plan in the Senate.  Hart2008   Sep-06-11 09:26 AM   #224 
  - Gary Hart was Bill Clinton before Bill Clinton was Bill Clinton.  MilesColtrane   Sep-05-11 04:44 PM   #194 
  - So. I've read the announcement at the blog and Huffington Post.  mmonk   Sep-05-11 07:05 AM   #145 
  - Watch Gary Hart's blog for more details!  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 03:07 PM   #173 
  - He say he doesn't advocate a third party...  YvonneCa   Sep-05-11 03:36 PM   #180 
  - Right now it looks like an Underwear Gnomes' plan.  MilesColtrane   Sep-05-11 04:11 PM   #187 
  - And what will that accomplish? Hart wouldn't win a single primary over Obama  WI_DEM   Sep-05-11 08:26 AM   #151 
  - Of course not--but it will force Obama to the left, if it is supported by enough folks  librechik   Sep-05-11 10:27 AM   #162 
  - So what about the CONTENT of this piece; the ideas presented- do the staunch  Lorien   Sep-05-11 08:57 AM   #153 
  - The ad hominem attacks come because they can't argue against the ideas.  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 03:34 PM   #177 
     - Oh my, you hit the nail so hard  hifiguy   Sep-07-11 02:16 PM   #249 
        - He is a tremendous thinker. His critics resent his intellect. NT  Hart2008   Sep-09-11 10:54 AM   #258 
  - I have known and supported Gary Hart since the early 1980's...  kentuck   Sep-05-11 09:46 AM   #154 
  - The GOP has a better chnce of cloning, and re-running, Ronald Reagan.  JoePhilly   Sep-05-11 09:56 AM   #155 
  - Yeah time to go to someone who actually tried to get the nom  treestar   Sep-05-11 10:13 AM   #158 
  - Laugh? You should cry. If Obama is our nominee again,  anamandujano   Sep-05-11 04:25 PM   #190 
  - Go to Pat's or Geno's and get a cheese steak  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 08:40 PM   #217 
  - K&R  grahamhgreen   Sep-05-11 10:20 AM   #159 
  - K & R !!!  WillyT   Sep-05-11 10:23 AM   #160 
  - so far looks like you will have 25 votes.  Pisces   Sep-05-11 10:24 AM   #161 
  - 71 recs so far and now the most discussed thread on DU on a holiday weekend.  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 04:14 PM   #188 
     - That will win an election of 50+ million. Forget the minority vote. Yup you're right a winning ticke  Pisces   Sep-05-11 11:01 PM   #220 
        - Forget the majority vote and the ticket is a sure loser. NT  Hart2008   Sep-06-11 12:36 AM   #221 
  - interesting. nt  xchrom   Sep-05-11 10:51 AM   #165 
  - "party of patriots" sounds lame + creepy  BOG PERSON   Sep-05-11 11:09 AM   #168 
  - Gary Hart was a trend jumper at best. He sees the tea party and now want his action. nt  bluestate10   Sep-05-11 05:19 PM   #207 
  - Sounds like a DREAM Democratic party...  YvonneCa   Sep-05-11 03:37 PM   #181 
  - What has taken us so long on this?  gulliver   Sep-05-11 03:40 PM   #182 
  - Did you even read what you posted?  grantcart   Sep-05-11 03:43 PM   #183 
  - I read Hart's blog, and so should you! Hart does not advocate a third party.  Hart2008   Sep-05-11 03:56 PM   #185 
  - You are witnessing a prime display of insanity.  bluestate10   Sep-05-11 05:11 PM   #205 
  - Gary Hart's a has-been who destroyed any shot he had at the Oval Office  Arkana   Sep-05-11 04:15 PM   #189 
  - Plus. He ran as a conservative alternative to the liberal Mondale.  bluestate10   Sep-05-11 05:13 PM   #206 
     - WRONG: Hart ran on a platform of new ideas, and a fresh approach, not conservatism.  Hart2008   Sep-08-11 12:05 PM   #254 
  - Gary Hart? He will see a few young skirts and that will be the end of it.  bluestate10   Sep-05-11 04:46 PM   #195 
  - When you mortgage your home to run for public office, then you can make snide remarks about Hart. NT  Hart2008   Sep-06-11 04:24 PM   #231 
     - I think the First Amendment trumps your criterion.  WinkyDink   Sep-07-11 07:53 AM   #242 
        - Cheap shots are easy from those with no skin in the game. NT  Hart2008   Sep-07-11 01:19 PM   #244 
  - I wonder whether Donna Rice will sit in his lap if he primaries Obama? nt  bluestate10   Sep-05-11 05:04 PM   #202 
  - No, she is too busy working to protect children from porn on the Internet.  Hart2008   Sep-08-11 09:02 PM   #256 
  - Abraham Lincoln quote.  roamer65   Sep-05-11 08:02 PM   #213 
  - Another Obama bashing thread  Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin   Sep-05-11 08:21 PM   #215 
  - OMG! Hart said no Dem ever criticizes the presumptive Dem nominee.  McCamy Taylor   Sep-07-11 03:23 AM   #236 
  - According to Hart: "Do not provide ammunition to the opposition party --  AtomicKitten   Sep-07-11 03:39 AM   #238 
  - Prediction: Hart is being blackmailed to savage Obama. NewsCorp caught him at it again,  McCamy Taylor   Sep-07-11 03:26 AM   #237 
  - WOW! Another smear campaign! No facts and all make believe!  Hart2008   Sep-07-11 07:46 AM   #239 
  - Look; you posted. Now you reap the whirlwind.  WinkyDink   Sep-07-11 07:55 AM   #243 
  - HA! HA! HA! The whirlwind hasn't started here yet. It comes because the Hartistas shall ride again!  Hart2008   Sep-08-11 10:57 AM   #253 
  - Once again, the Great Groucho Marx said it best: (With apologies  COLGATE4   Sep-07-11 01:53 PM   #247 
  - The best president this country never had  hifiguy   Sep-07-11 02:01 PM   #248 
  - This is even less credible than Nader finding someone to Primary POTUS  Motown_Johnny   Sep-08-11 09:06 AM   #252 
  - Maybe Nader recruited Hart? NT  Hart2008   Sep-09-11 02:32 PM   #263 
  - Gary Hart-"I do my best to try to summon [the Dem. party] to those ideals and principles."  Hart2008   Sep-08-11 12:25 PM   #255 
  - Your OP is giving me a headache.  Warren DeMontague   Sep-09-11 11:14 AM   #259 
  - It's hard to read the substance of this post...  tallahasseedem   Sep-09-11 11:26 AM   #260 
  - So then follow the link!  Hart2008   Sep-09-11 12:15 PM   #261 
  - Nah  NeedleCast   Sep-09-11 12:15 PM   #262 
  - Sounds like an intelligent alternative to the Tea Party...  AntiFascist   Sep-09-11 02:44 PM   #264 
     - Exactly! NT  Hart2008   Sep-09-11 03:04 PM   #265 
 

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