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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 12:46 PM
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Obama bails on the smog regs. Add a YES to the pipeline = a call for a primary challenger
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I really hope it does not come to this, but if today's backtrack on the smog regulation signals a "trend" for President Obama - then there is not much hope for a NO vote on the Tar Sands pipeline.

If the pipeline gets approved, then the President I worked so hard to elect will have completed his transformation to republican-lite.

I have never voted for a republican and never will.

This would signal a call to action for some true DEM from within our party to run against him in the primary next year. I know, historical precedent suggests this is unlikely to succeed. Yet in my lifetime I don't believe we have ever had such a case of "bait and switch" from an elected president. At least with Bushco, nobody was surprised at his fuckups while running the criminal regime.

This is not (yet) a call to make it happen, but it's getting close. We all know that a divided party runs poor vs a united party. Yet there has to be a minimum standard of sensibility applied to what we expect from a candidate's campaign pledges - a YES on the pipeline suggests a total abandonment on Obama's commitment to fight global warming etc.

Maybe this smog capitulation was his way of setting the stage to vote NO on the pipeline, so he shows some compromise to Wallstreet minions. That's the optimistic view and it would keep my vote. Yet if it's a trend, finding a viable challenger from within may not win - but he or she might at least hold Obama accountable for his campaign promises, because apparently he is not beholden to those who voted for him.

There is still time to change this trajectory, but not much.





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  -Obama bails on the smog regs. Add a YES to the pipeline = a call for a primary challenger RiverStone  Sep-02-11 12:46 PM   #0 
  - Placing a call is easy.  Recovered Repug   Sep-02-11 12:47 PM   #1 
  - Go ahead. Find a primary challeger who will make the ENVIRONMENT the number one priority  TwilightGardener   Sep-02-11 12:49 PM   #2 
  - Paging Al Gore...paging Al Gore  Ship of Fools   Sep-02-11 12:51 PM   #3 
  - The challenger wouldn't have to win..  digitaln3rd   Sep-02-11 12:54 PM   #6 
  - Exactly - we need someone who will publicly call him out in primary debates  slay   Sep-02-11 12:56 PM   #8 
  - A shift to the left during the primary would be meaningless,  Lasher   Sep-02-11 12:58 PM   #9 
  - Go ahead and find a candidate that keeps his campaign pledges!  RiverStone   Sep-02-11 12:56 PM   #7 
  - OK. If you don't think Obama has kept his promises on the environment, then  TwilightGardener   Sep-02-11 01:02 PM   #13 
     - Like I said in the OP - voting rethug would never happen...  RiverStone   Sep-02-11 01:07 PM   # 
     - Look at what the new regs would require, both from industry and from local and  TwilightGardener   Sep-02-11 01:15 PM   #20 
        - Look at the added healthcare costs caused by dirty air  RiverStone   Sep-02-11 01:22 PM   #22 
     - That's what I tought, too  Sugarcoated   Sep-02-11 01:12 PM   #19 
  - All we want is a primary challenger that is a Democrat who is at least genuinely concerned about  Zorra   Sep-02-11 01:23 PM   #23 
  - Or one who will just keep his promises  Bluebear   Sep-02-11 03:13 PM   #29 
  - RiverStone, you're not seeing Obama's brilliance.  Llewlladdwr   Sep-02-11 12:53 PM   #4 
  - Nice storyline - are we the rope or the dope?  RiverStone   Sep-02-11 12:58 PM   #10 
  - Yep. Any minute now.....a n y m i n u t e. . . . . . . . . . . . . .  COLGATE4   Sep-02-11 01:28 PM   #24 
  - He's just...keepin' his powder dry!  Poll_Blind   Sep-02-11 01:35 PM   #26 
  - The pipeline? That's my line in the sand.  Autumn   Sep-02-11 12:53 PM   #5 
  - +1  theaocp   Sep-02-11 12:59 PM   #12 
  - It may be mine, too. Not sure yet, but it's a contender. nt  gateley   Sep-02-11 01:04 PM   #15 
  - Put your money where your mouth is RiverStone.  Itchinjim   Sep-02-11 12:58 PM   #11 
  - Have at it. Good luck. nt  gateley   Sep-02-11 01:04 PM   #14 
  - The irony of it all is if even there WAS an honest challenge in the primary  Blue_Tires   Sep-02-11 01:05 PM   #16 
  - I join that call  WDIM   Sep-02-11 01:07 PM   #17 
  - Well you showed us your words, now let's see some action.  Itchinjim   Sep-02-11 01:31 PM   #25 
  - Trend? It is of a piece with the Gulf Spill....  blindpig   Sep-02-11 01:07 PM   #18 
  - There will be no challengers  raouldukelives   Sep-02-11 01:18 PM   #21 
  - A lot can happen in a year.....  femrap   Sep-03-11 11:18 AM   #31 
  - Keep in mind that a divided party now is not doomsday in  swilton   Sep-02-11 01:40 PM   #27 
  - Primary challenger.....really. Maybe Obama should do a Johnson...  Historic NY   Sep-02-11 03:05 PM   #28 
     - What a wimpy attitude!  RiverStone   Sep-02-11 03:38 PM   #30 
 

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