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| 12. From February of '08 . . . . |
| -We’re losing. And we’re losing big. |
Cyrano |
Aug-30-11 12:49 PM |
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I agree with you. |
GreenPartyVoter |
Aug-30-11 12:50 PM |
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No ..Republicans have been trying for 80 years to get to the point where |
INdemo |
Aug-30-11 01:37 PM |
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he's not a Democrat |
Carolina |
Aug-30-11 02:20 PM |
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And you? What are you??? |
cliffordu |
Aug-30-11 04:52 PM |
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Homer |
vssmith |
Aug-31-11 07:51 AM |
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you obviously |
Carolina |
Aug-31-11 01:58 PM |
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They HAVE destroyed almost all New Deal legislation. |
dotymed |
Aug-31-11 08:38 AM |
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Actually they have destroyed more of LBJ's legislation on civil |
jwirr |
Aug-31-11 08:55 AM |
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I agree to a point. |
dotymed |
Aug-31-11 10:08 AM |
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On that I agree - I was thinking of the safety net as programs for the |
jwirr |
Aug-31-11 08:35 PM |
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term limits |
formernaderite |
Aug-31-11 01:03 PM |
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I think we might be past the point of no return. |
FiveGoodMen |
Aug-30-11 12:54 PM |
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The only good thing about the Bush years: |
tblue |
Aug-30-11 01:40 PM |
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I thought Kerry was the same way |
swilton |
Aug-30-11 07:44 PM |
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Being from MA I always respected Kerry. I thought of him as a fighter.. |
Little Star |
Aug-31-11 08:45 AM |
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And he didn't fight back when they stole the election from him in 2004 either. n/t |
totodeinhere |
Aug-31-11 11:25 AM |
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It was deception |
november3rd |
Aug-31-11 09:55 AM |
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spot on |
stockholmer |
Aug-31-11 11:22 AM |
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"...if Obama was an outspoken, dedicated, and skillful fighter -" |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Aug-31-11 10:58 AM |
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I despair for those same reasons, and because, |
SusanaMontana41 |
Aug-30-11 03:58 PM |
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I agree. I can understand the gullible republicans, but the gullible democrats are what |
rhett o rick |
Aug-30-11 08:26 PM |
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You are wrong! The TBAGGERS Are exposed!! It is OUR TIME! |
CarmanK |
Aug-31-11 07:34 AM |
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That's the big issue... |
CoffeeCat |
Aug-31-11 09:08 AM |
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We're are losing, but it aint over till we quit |
demwing |
Aug-30-11 12:56 PM |
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There's a difference between losing and being sold out. |
Cyrano |
Aug-30-11 02:05 PM |
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It's a huge difference |
peace frog |
Aug-31-11 04:39 AM |
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This doesnt have anything to do with quitting. We are losing and past the tipping |
rhett o rick |
Aug-30-11 08:27 PM |
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If its too late to do anything |
demwing |
Aug-30-11 11:57 PM |
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Agree - things can always get worse -- we have to get the nuke reactors shut down...!!! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-31-11 02:39 AM |
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I will continue to fight even if there is no hope. nm |
rhett o rick |
Aug-31-11 11:46 AM |
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our leaders have by and large been bought |
tk2kewl |
Aug-30-11 12:58 PM |
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We also need to do what Repugs did ... TARGET those in our party and their party who work against |
defendandprotect |
Aug-31-11 02:44 AM |
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My impression of Mondale was that he felt America's best days |
hedgehog |
Aug-30-11 12:59 PM |
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^ Very true ^ |
Mimosa |
Aug-30-11 02:03 PM |
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Have you ever thought to ask yourself, "do we need jobs?" |
ieoeja |
Aug-30-11 04:25 PM |
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You are so right. |
harmonicon |
Aug-31-11 07:51 AM |
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Good point- I have observed the same thing |
Tumbulu |
Aug-31-11 10:25 AM |
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Peak Oil could be an opportunity had we reacted during the Carter years ... !!! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-31-11 02:42 AM |
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It's all one big |
femrap |
Aug-30-11 12:59 PM |
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There is a groundswell of anger out there just waiting to be tapped. |
woo me with science |
Aug-30-11 01:00 PM |
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Amen! K&R. n/t |
AverageJoe90 |
Aug-30-11 01:18 PM |
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we do need a movement |
marions ghost |
Aug-30-11 02:15 PM |
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Democratic Party won't be there |
swilton |
Aug-30-11 07:45 PM |
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The Democratic party will be there |
liberation |
Aug-31-11 12:10 AM |
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Woo Me, you speak for the voiceless, ieoeja you have agood point too. |
Mimosa |
Aug-31-11 12:11 AM |
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Two fights that would change things -- ending wars/MEDICARE FOR ALL... |
defendandprotect |
Aug-31-11 03:20 AM |
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Agree with your analysis ... but Third Way is running Dem Party .... !! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-31-11 03:28 AM |
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IF we can take over "our" government, we can re-instate |
dotymed |
Aug-31-11 09:01 AM |
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Taking back government would mean a new Dem candidate for 2012 .... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-02-11 01:09 AM |
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We had a window of opportunity in 2009 but Obama and the Dem Senate leaders quickly threw it away |
leveymg |
Aug-30-11 01:01 PM |
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I really, really hope you're wrong, leveymg. Yet, I can't come up with |
Cyrano |
Aug-30-11 02:14 PM |
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I hope I'm wrong about that, too, and will gladly eat my words |
leveymg |
Aug-30-11 02:46 PM |
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OMGOSH!!! I KISS YOUR FEET! THANK U!!! |
tblue |
Aug-30-11 03:24 PM |
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Even if we're completely wrong, it's good to have such nice company in |
leveymg |
Aug-30-11 06:36 PM |
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We're not wrong. |
tblue |
Aug-31-11 02:45 AM |
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It sickens me still |
peace frog |
Aug-31-11 04:44 AM |
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and there is no FDR waiting in the wings to replace Obama, even if he wins in 2016, the US |
stockholmer |
Aug-31-11 11:26 AM |
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The sky is falling! |
FSogol |
Aug-30-11 01:03 PM |
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I think it done falled. |
tblue |
Aug-30-11 03:29 PM |
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are you really THAT fucking blind? |
Skittles |
Aug-31-11 04:18 AM |
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It's down around our ears already |
peace frog |
Aug-31-11 04:45 AM |
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The Earth will heal itself |
formercia |
Aug-30-11 01:04 PM |
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Yes, keep your head right up there. |
savannah43 |
Aug-31-11 07:41 AM |
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So, what did you do Today to protect Mother Earth? |
formercia |
Aug-31-11 12:39 PM |
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I don't give two shits about humans disappearing |
bengalherder |
Aug-31-11 10:19 AM |
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I take responsibility every Day |
formercia |
Aug-31-11 02:01 PM |
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With great sadness I have to agree with you. nt |
TeamsterDem |
Aug-30-11 01:05 PM |
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From February of '08 . . . . |
Stinky The Clown |
Aug-30-11 01:06 PM |
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Good and sad journal. |
PufPuf23 |
Aug-30-11 01:58 PM |
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"Those of us that were adults |
Carolina |
Aug-30-11 02:27 PM |
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self delete |
Carolina |
Aug-30-11 02:27 PM |
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Cycles have always existed |
abelenkpe |
Aug-30-11 01:06 PM |
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"There is no spoon" (pendulum ). |
Cyrano |
Aug-30-11 02:59 PM |
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We need a congress full of Graysons, Frankens and Sanders..nt |
and-justice-for-all |
Aug-30-11 01:07 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Aug-30-11 01:11 PM |
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We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave. . . . |
rocknrollgangster |
Aug-30-11 01:15 PM |
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"All politics is local." Tip O'Neill |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Aug-30-11 01:15 PM |
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Yes, Obama will probably win and even though it is the same o same o |
Kalidurga |
Aug-30-11 01:33 PM |
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We may have to lose the Empire first. Becoming a normal country instead of |
LeftinOH |
Aug-30-11 01:18 PM |
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The Right has spent the past 40 years developing an intellectual infrastructure, |
QC |
Aug-30-11 01:19 PM |
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Boy, isn't that the truth. |
OnionPatch |
Aug-30-11 06:09 PM |
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I can't listen to the MSM anymore, I am trying too |
madlefty |
Aug-31-11 06:35 AM |
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I call it a propaganda infrastructure |
newspeak |
Aug-31-11 10:39 AM |
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Economic theories that used to be the fringe are now mainstream |
QC |
Aug-31-11 11:33 AM |
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It starts with the pardon of Nixon |
Angry Dragon |
Aug-30-11 01:22 PM |
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It started with hypocritical slave owners complaining they wanted their liberty. |
provis99 |
Aug-30-11 03:22 PM |
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Did you watch that video post a few days ago? |
dotymed |
Aug-31-11 09:30 AM |
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well said. btw, do you have a link for that video? |
bbgrunt |
Aug-31-11 10:17 AM |
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No but you should be able to find it on DU. It was posted less |
dotymed |
Sep-01-11 07:38 AM |
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Here is the link |
dotymed |
Sep-01-11 09:19 AM |
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thanks a lot! |
bbgrunt |
Sep-01-11 11:25 AM |
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Done, ruined, fucked. |
TacticalPeek |
Aug-30-11 01:23 PM |
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The Righties are planning 50 year reign in power. If you want |
OHdem10 |
Aug-30-11 01:27 PM |
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It started with reagan and has culminated |
Jakes Progress |
Aug-30-11 01:29 PM |
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......wisconsin..... |
madrchsod |
Aug-30-11 01:48 PM |
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Well most people will know what I say about it |
socialist_n_TN |
Aug-30-11 01:48 PM |
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They don't own me any more than a sick monkey "owns" the Ebola virus |
saras |
Aug-30-11 01:49 PM |
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good analogy |
marions ghost |
Aug-30-11 02:20 PM |
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We've been losing, and losing big, for 30 years. |
dtexdem |
Aug-30-11 02:13 PM |
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We've lost |
Carolina |
Aug-30-11 02:19 PM |
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Nothing that a war in Libya, a little "austerity", and "free trade" with Korea won't fix up! |
Romulox |
Aug-30-11 02:22 PM |
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Plus, don't look back. |
EFerrari |
Aug-30-11 04:31 PM |
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When the Working Class... |
bvar22 |
Aug-30-11 02:56 PM |
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The election of Reagan really marked the emergence of three ideas |
OmahaBlueDog |
Aug-30-11 02:57 PM |
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"Entrepreneurs " were the new heroes. |
hay rick |
Aug-30-11 06:33 PM |
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Yes. 'We' meaning ALL of us, left/right, conservative/progressive, rich/poor, atheist/deist, |
wiggs |
Aug-30-11 03:55 PM |
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naw |
spanone |
Aug-30-11 04:32 PM |
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K&R |
amborin |
Aug-30-11 04:47 PM |
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Nope. We.Are.Dead. |
cliffordu |
Aug-30-11 04:50 PM |
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I agree 100%. The only good news is, since we are "already dead" there is hope. |
RagAss |
Aug-30-11 05:45 PM |
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When the duff stop being afraid of blood, they that rule are fucked. |
cliffordu |
Aug-30-11 08:35 PM |
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We now live in a 100% "corporate state" |
Jim_Shorts |
Aug-31-11 01:03 PM |
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The reaon |
RegieRocker |
Aug-30-11 06:19 PM |
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Identifying the problem is pretty easy. Coming up with a solution... |
Shagbark Hickory |
Aug-30-11 06:40 PM |
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We have White House, Senate, and until recently House. |
Zax2me |
Aug-30-11 08:36 PM |
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we are being handed defeat |
ldf |
Aug-30-11 09:46 PM |
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It depends what you mean by "we" |
liberation |
Aug-31-11 12:07 AM |
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If you mean "we the people," no we never had them. Almost all politicians have been bought, |
totodeinhere |
Aug-31-11 11:33 AM |
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democrats are happily following in the slipstream of the right wing shock troops.... |
scentopine |
Aug-31-11 12:32 AM |
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so true and you say it so well! |
bbgrunt |
Aug-31-11 10:25 AM |
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Thank you! -nt |
scentopine |
Aug-31-11 08:18 PM |
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Another very excellent description |
chill_wind |
Aug-31-11 11:18 AM |
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Thank you -nt |
scentopine |
Aug-31-11 08:19 PM |
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I certainly disagree about liberals "losing" or playing defense. |
PBass |
Aug-31-11 12:36 AM |
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Please don't confuse |
kimsarah |
Aug-31-11 12:45 AM |
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Actually, please DO confuse progressives, liberals and Democrats. |
PBass |
Aug-31-11 12:48 AM |
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Starting tomorrow.... |
democrank |
Aug-31-11 12:59 AM |
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This should be a separate post. |
Le Taz Hot |
Aug-31-11 05:54 AM |
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Excellent assessment of reality. |
chill_wind |
Aug-31-11 07:47 AM |
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And, in order to thwart another R/Wer for President, |
dotymed |
Aug-31-11 10:00 AM |
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Bravo! |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Aug-31-11 11:19 AM |
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Reply #44 is worth a reread. |
democrank |
Aug-31-11 01:02 AM |
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We wanted to fight back, but the ruling class bought off our team. |
begin_within |
Aug-31-11 01:04 AM |
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Oh god I feel the same way... |
WCGreen |
Aug-31-11 01:06 AM |
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K&R |
pam4water |
Aug-31-11 01:30 AM |
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we could have done MUCH BETTER than this |
Skittles |
Aug-31-11 01:34 AM |
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Simply stated... |
Hubert Flottz |
Aug-31-11 01:47 AM |
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we will all be Tucker Barnes |
Skittles |
Aug-31-11 04:15 AM |
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LOLOLOLOLOLOL |
Hubert Flottz |
Aug-31-11 07:44 AM |
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cynicism toward government that predated Reagan laid the groundwork for the defeat |
andym |
Aug-31-11 02:21 AM |
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Global Warming will end their reign ... but it will also end our species!! Capitalism is suicidal.! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-31-11 02:35 AM |
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Ask disastered pugs who have no homes that Cantor does see fit to help out by funding FEMA who they |
lonestarnot |
Aug-31-11 03:46 AM |
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We are losing, the whole world is losing because of our |
ThomThom |
Aug-31-11 05:34 AM |
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Yes, I Agree, and I Notice that Some Don't Think So |
Demeter |
Aug-31-11 05:36 AM |
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Beyond losing. We would have to make up a word. |
Safetykitten |
Aug-31-11 05:39 AM |
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Totally agree |
AnnieK401 |
Aug-31-11 05:50 AM |
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same as it ever was-- the elites, the Powers that Be, the Puppet Masters, keep us in line |
spooked911 |
Aug-31-11 05:55 AM |
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Losing big? |
dothemath |
Aug-31-11 06:10 AM |
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this cuts to the |
Marblehead |
Aug-31-11 06:48 AM |
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Here's part of the deal, and it's not pretty... |
rasputin1952 |
Aug-31-11 06:52 AM |
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Great post. |
JTFrog |
Aug-31-11 09:02 AM |
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I've never met a single issue voter. Who are they? |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-31-11 10:13 AM |
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Just read DU, single issue voters are all over the place... |
rasputin1952 |
Aug-31-11 03:15 PM |
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Here's who stayed home. And it wasn't DU boomers and middle-aged hippy liberals |
chill_wind |
Aug-31-11 12:54 PM |
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This is because we vote and support Corporate Democrats who are no better than |
Chimichurri |
Aug-31-11 07:32 AM |
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Yep. |
NorthCarolina |
Aug-31-11 08:08 AM |
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Until Citizens United is overturned, our voice in modern politics has effectively been muted. nt |
Javaman |
Aug-31-11 07:37 AM |
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"...infested the oval office..." I love it! |
savannah43 |
Aug-31-11 07:38 AM |
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One chunk of the population drinks the republican kool aid. |
Bosso 63 |
Aug-31-11 09:15 AM |
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We are not losing it... |
hue |
Aug-31-11 09:24 AM |
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I agree with you, Cyrano. But I haven't lost hope. Feeling discouraged though, |
bertman |
Aug-31-11 09:37 AM |
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Correct |
salinen |
Aug-31-11 09:51 AM |
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We aren't losing.. |
Obama2012_4Peace |
Aug-31-11 09:58 AM |
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One of my great awakenings was seeing the |
bbgrunt |
Aug-31-11 09:59 AM |
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I was having a conversation with a union guy who despised his union, loves Ron Paul |
Chimichurri |
Aug-31-11 10:07 AM |
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this is a result of the endless brainwashing of Rush Limbaugh |
Tumbulu |
Aug-31-11 10:29 AM |
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I see this as a monkey with it's hand in a coconut. |
Gregorian |
Aug-31-11 12:33 PM |
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When i get discouraged i think of the people in |
Zoigal |
Aug-31-11 01:04 PM |
#157 |