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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 10:55 AM
Response to Reply #273
284. An English lesson from someone who thinks "professional left" is abbreviated "PF?"
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  -A real progressive takes apart the professional left VeryConfused  Aug-30-11 07:17 AM   #0 
  - So there are no facts?  mmonk   Aug-30-11 07:20 AM   #1 
  - Read the article  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 07:23 AM   #5 
     - If there are facts there, why didn't you cite any?  Lasher   Aug-30-11 07:29 AM   #12 
     - Another false PF talking point. It appears talking about the negative consequences of the PF  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 07:31 AM   #16 
        - I love irony.  Lasher   Aug-30-11 07:34 AM   #22 
        - This is a new trend that has started under Obama's administration  fasttense   Aug-30-11 09:24 AM   #130 
           - Wouldn't a troll from the GOP be doing what the Professional left is doing?  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 09:32 AM   #138 
              - "trying to drive a wedge between the Democratic party and liberals"  Mr Deltoid   Aug-30-11 09:41 AM   #150 
              - No, trying to stop the one driving in the wedge would be the exact opposite  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 09:42 AM   #151 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-30-11 10:10 AM   #183 
                 - Your whole OP is character assasination  Mr Deltoid   Aug-30-11 10:13 AM   #189 
                    - The wedge was driven between liberals and independents by the pro left  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:18 AM   #200 
                       - Upthread you said it was GOP trolls. Now you say it's "the left." Which is it?  ClassWarrior   Aug-30-11 10:39 AM   #242 
                          - Combination of true professional leftist and GOP trolls  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:47 AM   #259 
                             - But the Obama-can-do-no-wrong crowd is mean and petty on its own without any help from GOP trolls?  ClassWarrior   Aug-30-11 10:50 AM   #265 
                                - ?  ClassWarrior   Aug-30-11 10:53 AM   #270 
                                - ?  ClassWarrior   Aug-30-11 10:53 AM   #271 
                                - The only problem is you misrepresent the supporters of our President  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:55 AM   #283 
                                   - EXACTLY!! We're being played by trolls!! ON BOTH SIDES!! At last you get it!!  ClassWarrior   Aug-30-11 10:56 AM   #286 
              - You don't think they'd stop at that, do you?  ClassWarrior   Aug-30-11 10:27 AM   #217 
              - ?  ClassWarrior   Aug-30-11 10:39 AM   #243 
              - ?  ClassWarrior   Aug-30-11 10:39 AM   #244 
              - The GOP has much to gain by playing the role of "disaffected lefties"  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:39 AM   #245 
                 - Calls of being more supportive? How is insulting and ridiculing potential voters "being..."  ClassWarrior   Aug-30-11 10:42 AM   #252 
                 - ?  ClassWarrior   Aug-30-11 10:45 AM   #256 
                 - ?  ClassWarrior   Aug-30-11 10:45 AM   #257 
                 - Insulting voters would be the stock and trade of the professional left  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:56 AM   #287 
                    - Insulting voters would be the stock and trade of GOP trolls. Why do you want to keep blaming...  ClassWarrior   Aug-30-11 10:58 AM   #289 
                 - Ah, I get it now!  LondonReign2   Aug-30-11 10:50 AM   #266 
              - Hamsher means well, but she's kind of a dope............n/t  AverageJoe90   Aug-30-11 10:31 AM   #223 
                 - Hamsher wasn't meaning well when she conned people out of their hard eanred  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:38 AM   #240 
     - So?  mmonk   Aug-30-11 07:30 AM   #14 
        - Your right Matt and true progressive make real differences and have real accomplishments  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 07:32 AM   #20 
           - No real progressive seeks to weaken social contracts between the  mmonk   Aug-30-11 07:41 AM   #27 
              - Wrong, real progressive believe the government should do for the people  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 07:53 AM   #45 
                 - Anarchists are people that want to preserve the New Deal and progressives  mmonk   Aug-30-11 08:02 AM   #63 
                    - I don't think he understands what anarchists and narcissists are.  Lasher   Aug-30-11 08:11 AM   #70 
                    - Quite the contrary  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 08:15 AM   #71 
                       - An unconvincing argument.  Lasher   Aug-30-11 08:25 AM   #76 
                          - You may love anarchy, but most people don't  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 08:37 AM   #89 
                             - You're just clumping words together.  Lasher   Aug-30-11 08:46 AM   #104 
                    - Anarchist are people that desire chaos  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 08:15 AM   #72 
  - I agree.  robcon   Aug-30-11 07:21 AM   #2 
  - Professional Left.  mmonk   Aug-30-11 07:22 AM   #3 
  - PF = Professional Left  Syrinx   Aug-30-11 07:26 AM   #7 
     - Maybe we're the Professional Feft  Lasher   Aug-30-11 07:43 AM   #30 
     - Nice catch. You have editing in your future ... n/t  SusanaMontana41   Aug-30-11 09:19 AM   #121 
     - What is PF? Was taking the view of the OP that us who criticise are the Professional Left.  mmonk   Aug-30-11 07:54 AM   #49 
     - Yes, you know it's bad when you can't even create an accurate acronym . . .  hatrack   Aug-30-11 08:10 AM   #68 
        - A true maverick would never allow himself to be constrained by mere letters! n/t  QC   Aug-30-11 08:30 AM   #81 
           - OT  racaulk   Aug-30-11 09:14 AM   #118 
           - Cape May is one of my favorite beach towns.  QC   Aug-30-11 09:23 AM   #129 
           - ROFL!  SusanaMontana41   Aug-30-11 09:19 AM   #122 
  - Professional Left  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 07:22 AM   #4 
  - More genius 2012 GOTV strategy.  myrna minx   Aug-30-11 07:25 AM   #6 
  - The professional left cost us 2010 and hopefully we will recognize that  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 07:28 AM   #10 
  - Link?  myrna minx   Aug-30-11 07:29 AM   #13 
  - Would you like a link for the sky is blue or the sun is hot? Try Speaker Boehner  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 07:30 AM   #15 
     - You are making the allegation, it's up to you to prove it. Do you have  myrna minx   Aug-30-11 07:33 AM   #21 
        - It's not an allegation, it's a statement of fact  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 07:35 AM   #23 
           - Silly. You have no facts, just your notions. These are quite different.  myrna minx   Aug-30-11 07:44 AM   #34 
           - you don't think the Right has actively attempted voter suppression  Sheepshank   Aug-30-11 09:40 AM   #149 
           - as you are beyond any  SwampG8r   Aug-30-11 10:10 AM   #185 
  - Obama and Dems did that all on there own. Voters simply stayed home.  Chimichurri   Aug-30-11 07:54 AM   #50 
  - Voters stayed home because they listened to the PF who said there was no point in voting  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 07:56 AM   #52 
     - The vast majority of people do not peruse politcal blogs. They do, however, understand  Chimichurri   Aug-30-11 07:57 AM   #53 
     - The PF often snakes their way on to TV to falsely represent liberals and progressives  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 07:58 AM   #56 
     - Yes, like Milt and yourself.  Chimichurri   Aug-30-11 08:01 AM   #62 
        - Here you need to read this from the article  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 08:11 AM   #69 
     - ++++ thousands (n/t)  bread_and_roses   Aug-30-11 08:36 AM   #88 
     - Revisionist claptrap  LondonReign2   Aug-30-11 09:31 AM   #137 
     - No the Professional left was warned repeatedly that their efforts  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 09:35 AM   #142 
     - My State of Oregon had the highest midterm turnout since the80's  Bluenorthwest   Aug-30-11 10:33 AM   #228 
  - "It's the economy stupid" not the "PF"  PA Democrat   Aug-30-11 08:23 AM   #75 
  - Ignoring and shunning the people that got you elected in 2008?  LondonReign2   Aug-30-11 09:40 AM   #147 
     - Yeah the professional left's let us discourage voters strategy was so much better  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:14 AM   #193 
  - Bwaaaaa!!!  peace frog   Aug-30-11 07:49 AM   #36 
     - Here's something from the article for you to chew on  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 08:00 AM   #60 
        - Perhaps someday you won't be VeryConfused  peace frog   Aug-30-11 09:33 AM   #139 
  - His first point is one I post almost daily.  JoePhilly   Aug-30-11 07:26 AM   #8 
  - Agreed  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 07:28 AM   #11 
  - If I are a "professional", how come I ain't getting paid?  hobbit709   Aug-30-11 07:26 AM   #9 
  - This is so on the money,although I'm sure it won't be well  sufrommich   Aug-30-11 07:32 AM   #17 
  - +1. n/t  FSogol   Aug-30-11 08:01 AM   #61 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-30-11 07:32 AM   #18 
  - So anyone that disagrees with you is an "ignorant bigot"  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 07:36 AM   #24 
     - Anyone who claims that we're all "white narcissists" who "have no real contact with the poor"  Lyric   Aug-30-11 07:40 AM   #26 
        - There are websites that show the demographics of website visitors  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 07:43 AM   #31 
        - "There are websites". Wow, what a powerful argument.  Lyric   Aug-30-11 07:50 AM   # 
           - So you don't like the facts are against you so you dismiss them  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 07:54 AM   #47 
              - There are no "facts" against me.  Lyric   Aug-30-11 07:58 AM   #54 
              - But he declares his opinions to be fact.  Lasher   Aug-30-11 08:20 AM   #74 
              - Thanks to your brilliant post I have seen the light!!!  Generic Other   Aug-30-11 08:37 AM   #90 
        - Yeah, that REALLY pissed me off too  socialist_n_TN   Aug-30-11 10:13 AM   #188 
  - 1. it is "Milt" not "Matt"  Warren Stupidity   Aug-30-11 07:32 AM   #19 
  - Now that's funny, you are saying the truth has an ideology and it's right wing  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 07:37 AM   #25 
  - Dear Citizens, Shut up, sit down. Love, your co-opted, establishment Progressive.  Chimichurri   Aug-30-11 07:43 AM   #28 
  - Thanks for an example of the STFU argument that Milt took apart  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 07:44 AM   #32 
     - The whole article is pretty much DU in a nutshell. nt  sufrommich   Aug-30-11 07:49 AM   #37 
     - If you feel that way, you have the freewill to move to Politico or somewhere more your speed.  Chimichurri   Aug-30-11 07:53 AM   #46 
        - You are badly misinformed about Politico. Politico is a Republican operation  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:41 AM   #249 
     - When has Taibbi, Hamsher or Greenwald ever given false information? This guy is a tool..  Chimichurri   Aug-30-11 07:52 AM   #43 
        - Seriously? the next time one of the trio gives correct information  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 07:58 AM   #55 
           - That's a flat out lie. You won't be able to show one instance where they've behaved  Chimichurri   Aug-30-11 08:00 AM   #59 
  - Now we have anti-intellectual crap being spewed from the "left"  WhollyHeretic   Aug-30-11 07:43 AM   #29 
  - Milt's article is far more intellectual than any of the crap spewed by the PF  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 07:44 AM   #33 
  - What is "anti intellectual" about it? nt  sufrommich   Aug-30-11 07:50 AM   #39 
  - Must be the references to Hobbes and Locke  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:17 AM   #199 
  - How many other right-wing strategies and talking points  LWolf   Aug-30-11 07:59 AM   #57 
  - Nothing right wing in the article. The fact that you had no choice but to make things up  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:16 AM   #196 
     - Really? Claiming anyone criticizing Obama  LondonReign2   Aug-30-11 10:38 AM   #237 
  - That's 'being spewed from the "FEFT" to you, Mr. Pirate Flag!  hatrack   Aug-30-11 08:09 AM   #67 
  - Ah, the narcissists are out in droves unreccing their little izods off.  cliffordu   Aug-30-11 07:47 AM   #35 
  - I find the op nasty and pugnacious. thanks for reminding me to unrec it.  cali   Aug-30-11 07:51 AM   #41 
     - Ouch, that'll show me......  cliffordu   Aug-30-11 07:54 AM   #48 
  - Good point on the negativity coming from both sides but you're not considering...  matmar   Aug-30-11 07:49 AM   #38 
  - You do something about what you can control  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 07:52 AM   #44 
     - If you're hoping to control anybody you're doing it wrong.  Lasher   Aug-30-11 07:55 AM   #51 
  - What a steaming pile of Opposite Day horseshit.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-30-11 07:50 AM   #40 
  - Since this is opposite day, you're saying this is a great article  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 07:51 AM   #42 
  - An interesting read, but I fear his points will be demonstrated  MineralMan   Aug-30-11 07:59 AM   #58 
  - Interesting is a very vague word  Bluenorthwest   Aug-30-11 09:08 AM   #113 
     - Interesting is not a vague word. It simply means that the article  MineralMan   Aug-30-11 09:12 AM   #115 
        - I asked you if this is the style you use door to door. Is it?  Bluenorthwest   Aug-30-11 09:45 AM   #155 
           - This thread is not mine, nor is it about me.  MineralMan   Aug-30-11 09:55 AM   #165 
              - This is a discussion. It is about tactics and style, name calling  Bluenorthwest   Aug-30-11 10:13 AM   #190 
                 - It seems to me that your question would be better addressed to  MineralMan   Aug-30-11 10:38 AM   #241 
  - More of the same Turd Way hogwash, excuses, and finger pointing to excuse  TheKentuckian   Aug-30-11 08:04 AM   #64 
  - So many false PF talking points in one sentence  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 08:09 AM   #66 
  - Whatever....  izquierdista   Aug-30-11 08:07 AM   #65 
  - How completely and embarassingly offensive  Blasphemer   Aug-30-11 08:17 AM   #73 
  - Unrecommended.  Enthusiast   Aug-30-11 08:25 AM   #77 
  - A rose by any other name is still  Zorra   Aug-30-11 08:28 AM   #78 
  - Addressed and totally shut down  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 08:36 AM   #87 
     - What would be interesting to me  socialist_n_TN   Aug-30-11 10:19 AM   #203 
  - too often, real criticism means "criticism I agree with"  alc   Aug-30-11 08:28 AM   #79 
  - Shook isn't a 'real progressive', he's a conservadem  Mimosa   Aug-30-11 08:29 AM   #80 
  - Yeah that must be it, Milt addressed this false talking point  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 08:34 AM   #84 
     - Put up or shut up  Generic Other   Aug-30-11 08:49 AM   #108 
        - Here you go, from the article  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 09:22 AM   #127 
           - So your progressive credentials is that you post rightwing crap on DU?  Generic Other   Aug-30-11 09:48 AM   #159 
              - There is nothing right wing in the article  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 09:51 AM   #162 
                 - Make things up?  Generic Other   Aug-30-11 09:57 AM   #170 
                    - These comments remind me of this passage  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 09:59 AM   #174 
                       - Speak for yourself -- all you do is quote this crap  Generic Other   Aug-30-11 10:14 AM   #191 
                          - Milt's correct in his statements  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:22 AM   #209 
                             - And so then what's to be done with the recalcitrant left?  Generic Other   Aug-30-11 10:38 AM   #238 
                                - I think there should be attempts to get the PF to see reason  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:42 AM   #253 
  - Not.One.Fact  Fumesucker   Aug-30-11 08:31 AM   #82 
  - It's clear you didn't read the article  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 08:40 AM   #92 
     - I put up OPs attacking or making fun of Republicans..  Fumesucker   Aug-30-11 08:43 AM   #99 
        - The professional left are not Democrats  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 09:37 AM   #143 
           - You're the arbiter of who is and who is not a Democrat?  Fumesucker   Aug-30-11 09:50 AM   #161 
              - Funny there are many self proclaimed independents, greens, libertarians, communists, socialists  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:04 AM   #178 
                 - When did "many" become "all"?  Fumesucker   Aug-30-11 10:14 AM   #192 
                 - They make of the vast majority of the pro left  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:22 AM   #210 
                    - Once again a post with an unsupported claim..  Fumesucker   Aug-30-11 10:27 AM   #215 
                       - Your claims of epic failure are unsupported, I agree  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:28 AM   #219 
                 - There is no definition for "professional left" so you're free to make it up as you go along.  Gormy Cuss   Aug-30-11 10:59 AM   #293 
  - Funny how the only people supporting this OP are a who's who of DU's "sensible centrists"  Romulox   Aug-30-11 08:33 AM   #83 
  - Milt addressed this false talking point  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 08:35 AM   #86 
     - Listen: if you support Obama's escalation of the Drug War; his inept prosecution of three wars;  Romulox   Aug-30-11 08:41 AM   #96 
        - The president didn't "escalate" the drug war  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 08:43 AM   #100 
           - Nonsense. His Attorney General, Eric Holder, has implemented a policy of raiding med. marijuana  Romulox   Aug-30-11 08:45 AM   #103 
              - Name one raid  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 09:13 AM   #117 
                 - Now you are asking *other* people for citations?  Fumesucker   Aug-30-11 09:25 AM   #131 
                    - I'll take this comment as proof the drug meme is just an urban legend  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 09:27 AM   #132 
                       - Show me any link you have provided to documented facts...  Fumesucker   Aug-30-11 09:29 AM   #135 
                          - Here's one  Generic Other   Aug-30-11 10:28 AM   #220 
                             - Can you show me where to get in on this money train?  Fumesucker   Aug-30-11 10:41 AM   #250 
                                - I don't think they will pay us for doing that  Generic Other   Aug-30-11 10:43 AM   #254 
  - I guess "real progressive" = Icon Defender  n2doc   Aug-30-11 08:35 AM   #85 
  - one can delude themselves - but the current Democratic Party is on economics to the right of the old  Douglas Carpenter   Aug-30-11 08:38 AM   #91 
  - The article addresses this point of view  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 08:41 AM   #94 
     - no Obama is doing pretty much what I expected him or any other leading Democratic Party  Douglas Carpenter   Aug-30-11 09:06 AM   #112 
        - More from the article  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 09:23 AM   #128 
           - oh come on.. in the aftermath of the 2008 collapse he was elected with a mandate for making sweeping  Douglas Carpenter   Aug-30-11 09:37 AM   #144 
              - He was elected with a non-functional majority in the Senate  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 09:38 AM   #145 
                 - a 59 seat majority was a lot more than anything that George Bush or Ronald Reagan ever had  Douglas Carpenter   Aug-30-11 09:55 AM   #166 
                    - Doesn't matter if 59 is more than others, it was non-functional  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 09:58 AM   #172 
                       - what was going on in the real world was the aftermath of a mandate for sweeping change coming on the  Douglas Carpenter   Aug-30-11 10:14 AM   #194 
                          - It was a mandate that was ignored by the GOP  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:26 AM   #213 
  - All the name calling coupled with a lack of facts  Bluenorthwest   Aug-30-11 08:41 AM   #93 
  - An inconvenient truth  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 08:42 AM   #97 
     - No, name calling is not truth, it is characterization in place of  Bluenorthwest   Aug-30-11 09:33 AM   #141 
  - When I think "real progressive" I think "Milt Shook"  dawg   Aug-30-11 08:41 AM   #95 
  - Milt Shook gets results because he understand politics and the nature of our Country  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 08:45 AM   #102 
  - And what results does he get?  dawg   Aug-30-11 08:49 AM   #107 
  - Democrats elected  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 09:20 AM   #123 
     - What color is the sky in your world?  dawg   Aug-30-11 09:40 AM   #148 
  - How come with all those results he doesn't even have a wikipedia page?  JVS   Aug-30-11 09:57 AM   #169 
     - If you judge the world based on wikipedia  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:05 AM   #179 
        - I'm just saying it would be nice to see a bio on the guy that isn't from his chintzy webpage  JVS   Aug-30-11 10:08 AM   #182 
           - You could buy one of his books  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:24 AM   #212 
              - No. Sorry, but this guy needs some bona fides before he attacks people like Krugman  JVS   Aug-30-11 10:26 AM   #214 
                 - Other than getting himself awards what has Krugman accomplished for any of us  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:29 AM   #221 
                    - Including winning awards, what has Shook accomplished for anyone?  JVS   Aug-30-11 10:54 AM   #278 
  - Yeah seriously, who is this guy?  JVS   Aug-30-11 09:46 AM   #156 
  - Why is anything from Milt Shook still unlocked?  Warren Stupidity   Aug-30-11 08:43 AM   #98 
  - Yes, we must censor progressive ideas being expressed  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 08:44 AM   #101 
  - Same reason a guy who brags about voting for McCain in 2008 is one of our leading posters...  Romulox   Aug-30-11 08:47 AM   #105 
     - I missed that one..  Fumesucker   Aug-30-11 09:18 AM   #119 
     - Who was that?  JVS   Aug-30-11 09:53 AM   #163 
  - My first unrec. Pit so called progressives against so called professional left.  Curmudgeoness   Aug-30-11 08:48 AM   #106 
  - The pro left pitted liberals against the Democratic party, that gave us a Republican Congress  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 09:33 AM   #140 
     - I think you are going to far with that. If liberals are disappointed  Curmudgeoness   Aug-30-11 09:43 AM   #152 
     - The vast majority of the voters don't follow politics closely  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 09:45 AM   #153 
        - It doesn't really matter what liberals are saying, if the economy  Curmudgeoness   Aug-30-11 10:01 AM   #175 
     - So you are saying the Democratic Party  LondonReign2   Aug-30-11 10:16 AM   #197 
        - Liberals are a constiuent of the Democratic party  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:27 AM   #216 
           - So this Professional Feft(?) you fantasize about  LondonReign2   Aug-30-11 10:48 AM   #262 
  - Who is this Milt Shook person?  MadHound   Aug-30-11 08:52 AM   #109 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-30-11 09:01 AM   #110 
  - His business card reads  Chimichurri   Aug-30-11 09:13 AM   #116 
  - I love the TV show "House" and I think Hugh Laurie is an amazing actor.  racaulk   Aug-30-11 09:02 AM   #111 
  - If you like House, you have to watch Black Adder and also  Bluenorthwest   Aug-30-11 09:21 AM   #125 
     - You know another great show?  racaulk   Aug-30-11 09:53 AM   #164 
        - Walking Dead is excellent!  Bluenorthwest   Aug-30-11 10:19 AM   #204 
  - Really tired of all the "negative-adjective" left and "negative- connotation" left  suffragette   Aug-30-11 09:09 AM   #114 
  - Red baiting from the Party purists is nothing new. Meh.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-30-11 09:18 AM   #120 
  - Now there is the a false meme that Milt forgot to address  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 09:21 AM   #124 
     - Milt is like a god to you, how disappointing he let you down on this one.  Warren Stupidity   Aug-30-11 09:28 AM   #133 
     - As I stated in the beginning Milt completely disassembled the Pro Left  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 09:30 AM   #136 
        - "our side" = right of center  LondonReign2   Aug-30-11 10:22 AM   #211 
           - If that's your side so be it  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:47 AM   #260 
     - On the contrary, Milt's entire piece is McCarthyite crap.  Bluenorthwest   Aug-30-11 09:56 AM   #168 
        - "McCarthyite crap" in what way exactly  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:48 AM   #261 
  - This is embarrassing  Oilwellian   Aug-30-11 09:22 AM   #126 
  - Milt is an extremely intelligent and perceptive man  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 09:28 AM   #134 
  - K&R  treestar   Aug-30-11 09:38 AM   #146 
  - I couldn't agree more  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 09:47 AM   #158 
  - Apparently I have no real contact with myself! Or with anyone in my neighborhood.  eShirl   Aug-30-11 09:45 AM   #154 
  - Sounds like he is to progressives what Velveeta is to cheese.  marmar   Aug-30-11 09:47 AM   #157 
  - You sound like one of those people that believe that to be a real progressive  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 09:48 AM   #160 
  - Bush tax cuts: Extended by Democrats..  Fumesucker   Aug-30-11 09:58 AM   #171 
     - Bush tax cuts = tax cuts for the lower and middle class + unemployment insurance  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:02 AM   #176 
        - Wrong as usual..  Fumesucker   Aug-30-11 10:11 AM   #186 
           - Your points don't dispute my assertions so your claims of my being  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:41 AM   #251 
              - A direct verbatim quote from your post # 171..  Fumesucker   Aug-30-11 10:55 AM   #279 
  - That brought a SINCERE LOL from me  socialist_n_TN   Aug-30-11 10:32 AM   #225 
     - Of course.  marmar   Aug-30-11 10:38 AM   #239 
  - This is called an "ad Hominem" attack and has no basis in fact. He mentions not policy positions,  grahamhgreen   Aug-30-11 09:56 AM   #167 
  - If only you studied how the Professional left has operated  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:03 AM   #177 
     - Again, no policy positions are mentioned, use of a general slur. 83% of AMERICANS  grahamhgreen   Aug-30-11 10:10 AM   #184 
     - Why are you calling the left 'professional'?  Lasher   Aug-30-11 10:19 AM   #201 
        - There is the real left filled with liberals and progressives than there is the professional left  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:20 AM   #206 
           - How does that make the left 'professional'?  Lasher   Aug-30-11 10:40 AM   #248 
              - The Pro Left was a term coined to describe the destructive wing of the liberals  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:49 AM   #263 
                 - Coined by whom? And what was the rationale in calling the left 'professional'?  Lasher   Aug-30-11 10:53 AM   #272 
                 - The Professional describe people like Hamsher who make money  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:54 AM   #277 
                 - But upthread you claimed we weren't Liberals,  LondonReign2   Aug-30-11 10:55 AM   #280 
  - Sounds like setting the bar to blame the left in a 2012 loss. You want high turnout?  newportdadde   Aug-30-11 09:58 AM   #173 
  - More like trying to stop the self destructive behavior before we have another GOP victory  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:05 AM   #180 
  - If they keep talking like they do...  Generic Other   Aug-30-11 10:11 AM   #187 
  - I'm a little confused as to your ultimate goal here  LondonReign2   Aug-30-11 10:07 AM   #181 
  - The goal is to win elections and defeat the GOP  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:16 AM   #195 
     - We are not being asked to defeat the GOP  Generic Other   Aug-30-11 10:17 AM   #198 
        - That is simply untrue  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:19 AM   #202 
           - Your get out the vote strategy is a failure then  Generic Other   Aug-30-11 10:31 AM   #224 
  - Weird. He uses the same sort of disjointed, fact-free stream of conciousness  Marr   Aug-30-11 10:20 AM   #205 
  - Sorry you were unwilling to read with an open mind  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:21 AM   #207 
     - There's a difference between an open mind and an empty head..  Fumesucker   Aug-30-11 10:34 AM   #229 
        - Yes but it's clear many are unwilling to listen or entertain views that don't support their position  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:37 AM   #235 
           - It's good to meet a really objective person...  Fumesucker   Aug-30-11 10:46 AM   #258 
  - Lifelong small d democrat and a Progressive  rms013   Aug-30-11 10:22 AM   #208 
  - Milt tweeted the perfect response  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:34 AM   #230 
  - Now that's a real progressive. Too bad he sounds like  Autumn   Aug-30-11 10:28 AM   #218 
  - Wow so you think conservatives want to see the GOP to lose and the Dems to win  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:32 AM   #226 
     - How does ridiculing Dems make the GOP lose and the Dems win?  ClassWarrior   Aug-30-11 10:35 AM   #232 
     - That's a strange question as Milt was supporting the Dems and ridiculing the PF  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:37 AM   #233 
        - Okay, how does ridiculing the majority of Dems do those things?  ClassWarrior   Aug-30-11 10:38 AM   #236 
           - You tell me, you insult the majority of Dems every time you use  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:50 AM   #264 
              - That's ridiculous. I don't even believe "centrists" exist.  ClassWarrior   Aug-30-11 10:52 AM   #268 
                 - Your first sentence is in complete contradiction of your second sentence  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:53 AM   #273 
                    - An English lesson from someone who thinks "professional left" is abbreviated "PF?"  ClassWarrior   Aug-30-11 10:55 AM   #284 
     - I see you are very confused  Autumn   Aug-30-11 10:39 AM   #246 
        - You ignored the glaring mistake you made  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:51 AM   #267 
           - Does that change the fact that his drivel  Autumn   Aug-30-11 10:55 AM   #281 
  - I have known milt for 15 years since usenet and to call him a real  dameocrat67   Aug-30-11 10:30 AM   #222 
  - Milt just tweeted a perfect response  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:33 AM   #227 
  - Not everyone operates the way you do..  Fumesucker   Aug-30-11 10:35 AM   #231 
     - HA!  Rex   Aug-30-11 10:57 AM   #288 
  - That's kind of what I thought. At least  socialist_n_TN   Aug-30-11 10:37 AM   #234 
  - Criticism from the left is a GOOD thing, for everyone involved.  iamthebandfanman   Aug-30-11 10:40 AM   #247 
  - If what you say were true, we wouldn't have lost in 2010  VeryConfused   Aug-30-11 10:44 AM   #255 
  - ...who?  Union Scribe   Aug-30-11 10:52 AM   #269 
  - A total nobody.  Rex   Aug-30-11 10:54 AM   #276 
  - Wow that guy is a stupid idiot, glad he ain't a real progressive.  Rex   Aug-30-11 10:53 AM   #274 
  - Who is Milt Shook?  Romulox   Aug-30-11 10:53 AM   #275 
  - Some loser that lusts after Ayn Rand?  Rex   Aug-30-11 10:55 AM   #282 
  - Well he's not some do-nothing Nobel laureate, as I learned Paul Krugman is upthread.  JVS   Aug-30-11 10:56 AM   #285 
     - Why ask useless questions? How deep is the ocean? How high is the sky? Who is Milt Shook?  Romulox   Aug-30-11 10:58 AM   #291 
  - This article's already been posted once, hasn't it?  JackDragna   Aug-30-11 10:58 AM   #290 
  - Copyright violation, way over 4 paragraphs, unless you are the author "quoted"?  Bluebear   Aug-30-11 10:59 AM   #292 
  - locking  mopinko   Aug-30-11 11:00 AM   #294 
 

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