| -A real progressive takes apart the professional left |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 07:17 AM |
#0 |
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So there are no facts? |
mmonk |
Aug-30-11 07:20 AM |
#1 |
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Read the article |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 07:23 AM |
#5 |
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If there are facts there, why didn't you cite any? |
Lasher |
Aug-30-11 07:29 AM |
#12 |
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Another false PF talking point. It appears talking about the negative consequences of the PF |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 07:31 AM |
#16 |
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I love irony. |
Lasher |
Aug-30-11 07:34 AM |
#22 |
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This is a new trend that has started under Obama's administration |
fasttense |
Aug-30-11 09:24 AM |
#130 |
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Wouldn't a troll from the GOP be doing what the Professional left is doing? |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 09:32 AM |
#138 |
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"trying to drive a wedge between the Democratic party and liberals" |
Mr Deltoid |
Aug-30-11 09:41 AM |
#150 |
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No, trying to stop the one driving in the wedge would be the exact opposite |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 09:42 AM |
#151 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-30-11 10:10 AM |
#183 |
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Your whole OP is character assasination |
Mr Deltoid |
Aug-30-11 10:13 AM |
#189 |
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The wedge was driven between liberals and independents by the pro left |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:18 AM |
#200 |
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Upthread you said it was GOP trolls. Now you say it's "the left." Which is it? |
ClassWarrior |
Aug-30-11 10:39 AM |
#242 |
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Combination of true professional leftist and GOP trolls |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:47 AM |
#259 |
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But the Obama-can-do-no-wrong crowd is mean and petty on its own without any help from GOP trolls? |
ClassWarrior |
Aug-30-11 10:50 AM |
#265 |
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? |
ClassWarrior |
Aug-30-11 10:53 AM |
#270 |
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? |
ClassWarrior |
Aug-30-11 10:53 AM |
#271 |
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The only problem is you misrepresent the supporters of our President |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:55 AM |
#283 |
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EXACTLY!! We're being played by trolls!! ON BOTH SIDES!! At last you get it!! |
ClassWarrior |
Aug-30-11 10:56 AM |
#286 |
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You don't think they'd stop at that, do you? |
ClassWarrior |
Aug-30-11 10:27 AM |
#217 |
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? |
ClassWarrior |
Aug-30-11 10:39 AM |
#243 |
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? |
ClassWarrior |
Aug-30-11 10:39 AM |
#244 |
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The GOP has much to gain by playing the role of "disaffected lefties" |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:39 AM |
#245 |
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Calls of being more supportive? How is insulting and ridiculing potential voters "being..." |
ClassWarrior |
Aug-30-11 10:42 AM |
#252 |
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? |
ClassWarrior |
Aug-30-11 10:45 AM |
#256 |
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? |
ClassWarrior |
Aug-30-11 10:45 AM |
#257 |
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Insulting voters would be the stock and trade of the professional left |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:56 AM |
#287 |
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Insulting voters would be the stock and trade of GOP trolls. Why do you want to keep blaming... |
ClassWarrior |
Aug-30-11 10:58 AM |
#289 |
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Ah, I get it now! |
LondonReign2 |
Aug-30-11 10:50 AM |
#266 |
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Hamsher means well, but she's kind of a dope............n/t |
AverageJoe90 |
Aug-30-11 10:31 AM |
#223 |
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Hamsher wasn't meaning well when she conned people out of their hard eanred |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:38 AM |
#240 |
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So? |
mmonk |
Aug-30-11 07:30 AM |
#14 |
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Your right Matt and true progressive make real differences and have real accomplishments |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 07:32 AM |
#20 |
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No real progressive seeks to weaken social contracts between the |
mmonk |
Aug-30-11 07:41 AM |
#27 |
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Wrong, real progressive believe the government should do for the people |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 07:53 AM |
#45 |
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Anarchists are people that want to preserve the New Deal and progressives |
mmonk |
Aug-30-11 08:02 AM |
#63 |
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I don't think he understands what anarchists and narcissists are. |
Lasher |
Aug-30-11 08:11 AM |
#70 |
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Quite the contrary |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 08:15 AM |
#71 |
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An unconvincing argument. |
Lasher |
Aug-30-11 08:25 AM |
#76 |
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You may love anarchy, but most people don't |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 08:37 AM |
#89 |
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You're just clumping words together. |
Lasher |
Aug-30-11 08:46 AM |
#104 |
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Anarchist are people that desire chaos |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 08:15 AM |
#72 |
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I agree. |
robcon |
Aug-30-11 07:21 AM |
#2 |
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Professional Left. |
mmonk |
Aug-30-11 07:22 AM |
#3 |
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PF = Professional Left |
Syrinx |
Aug-30-11 07:26 AM |
#7 |
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Maybe we're the Professional Feft |
Lasher |
Aug-30-11 07:43 AM |
#30 |
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Nice catch. You have editing in your future ... n/t |
SusanaMontana41 |
Aug-30-11 09:19 AM |
#121 |
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What is PF? Was taking the view of the OP that us who criticise are the Professional Left. |
mmonk |
Aug-30-11 07:54 AM |
#49 |
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Yes, you know it's bad when you can't even create an accurate acronym . . . |
hatrack |
Aug-30-11 08:10 AM |
#68 |
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A true maverick would never allow himself to be constrained by mere letters! n/t |
QC |
Aug-30-11 08:30 AM |
#81 |
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OT |
racaulk |
Aug-30-11 09:14 AM |
#118 |
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Cape May is one of my favorite beach towns. |
QC |
Aug-30-11 09:23 AM |
#129 |
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ROFL! |
SusanaMontana41 |
Aug-30-11 09:19 AM |
#122 |
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Professional Left |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 07:22 AM |
#4 |
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More genius 2012 GOTV strategy. |
myrna minx |
Aug-30-11 07:25 AM |
#6 |
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The professional left cost us 2010 and hopefully we will recognize that |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 07:28 AM |
#10 |
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Link? |
myrna minx |
Aug-30-11 07:29 AM |
#13 |
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Would you like a link for the sky is blue or the sun is hot? Try Speaker Boehner |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 07:30 AM |
#15 |
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You are making the allegation, it's up to you to prove it. Do you have |
myrna minx |
Aug-30-11 07:33 AM |
#21 |
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It's not an allegation, it's a statement of fact |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 07:35 AM |
#23 |
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Silly. You have no facts, just your notions. These are quite different. |
myrna minx |
Aug-30-11 07:44 AM |
#34 |
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you don't think the Right has actively attempted voter suppression |
Sheepshank |
Aug-30-11 09:40 AM |
#149 |
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as you are beyond any |
SwampG8r |
Aug-30-11 10:10 AM |
#185 |
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Obama and Dems did that all on there own. Voters simply stayed home. |
Chimichurri |
Aug-30-11 07:54 AM |
#50 |
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Voters stayed home because they listened to the PF who said there was no point in voting |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 07:56 AM |
#52 |
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The vast majority of people do not peruse politcal blogs. They do, however, understand |
Chimichurri |
Aug-30-11 07:57 AM |
#53 |
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The PF often snakes their way on to TV to falsely represent liberals and progressives |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 07:58 AM |
#56 |
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Yes, like Milt and yourself. |
Chimichurri |
Aug-30-11 08:01 AM |
#62 |
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Here you need to read this from the article |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 08:11 AM |
#69 |
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++++ thousands (n/t) |
bread_and_roses |
Aug-30-11 08:36 AM |
#88 |
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Revisionist claptrap |
LondonReign2 |
Aug-30-11 09:31 AM |
#137 |
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No the Professional left was warned repeatedly that their efforts |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 09:35 AM |
#142 |
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My State of Oregon had the highest midterm turnout since the80's |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-30-11 10:33 AM |
#228 |
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"It's the economy stupid" not the "PF" |
PA Democrat |
Aug-30-11 08:23 AM |
#75 |
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Ignoring and shunning the people that got you elected in 2008? |
LondonReign2 |
Aug-30-11 09:40 AM |
#147 |
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Yeah the professional left's let us discourage voters strategy was so much better |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:14 AM |
#193 |
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Bwaaaaa!!! |
peace frog |
Aug-30-11 07:49 AM |
#36 |
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Here's something from the article for you to chew on |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 08:00 AM |
#60 |
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Perhaps someday you won't be VeryConfused |
peace frog |
Aug-30-11 09:33 AM |
#139 |
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His first point is one I post almost daily. |
JoePhilly |
Aug-30-11 07:26 AM |
#8 |
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Agreed |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 07:28 AM |
#11 |
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If I are a "professional", how come I ain't getting paid? |
hobbit709 |
Aug-30-11 07:26 AM |
#9 |
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This is so on the money,although I'm sure it won't be well |
sufrommich |
Aug-30-11 07:32 AM |
#17 |
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+1. n/t |
FSogol |
Aug-30-11 08:01 AM |
#61 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-30-11 07:32 AM |
#18 |
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So anyone that disagrees with you is an "ignorant bigot" |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 07:36 AM |
#24 |
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Anyone who claims that we're all "white narcissists" who "have no real contact with the poor" |
Lyric |
Aug-30-11 07:40 AM |
#26 |
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There are websites that show the demographics of website visitors |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 07:43 AM |
#31 |
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"There are websites". Wow, what a powerful argument. |
Lyric |
Aug-30-11 07:50 AM |
# |
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So you don't like the facts are against you so you dismiss them |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 07:54 AM |
#47 |
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There are no "facts" against me. |
Lyric |
Aug-30-11 07:58 AM |
#54 |
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But he declares his opinions to be fact. |
Lasher |
Aug-30-11 08:20 AM |
#74 |
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Thanks to your brilliant post I have seen the light!!! |
Generic Other |
Aug-30-11 08:37 AM |
#90 |
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Yeah, that REALLY pissed me off too |
socialist_n_TN |
Aug-30-11 10:13 AM |
#188 |
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1. it is "Milt" not "Matt" |
Warren Stupidity |
Aug-30-11 07:32 AM |
#19 |
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Now that's funny, you are saying the truth has an ideology and it's right wing |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 07:37 AM |
#25 |
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Dear Citizens, Shut up, sit down. Love, your co-opted, establishment Progressive. |
Chimichurri |
Aug-30-11 07:43 AM |
#28 |
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Thanks for an example of the STFU argument that Milt took apart |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 07:44 AM |
#32 |
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The whole article is pretty much DU in a nutshell. nt |
sufrommich |
Aug-30-11 07:49 AM |
#37 |
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If you feel that way, you have the freewill to move to Politico or somewhere more your speed. |
Chimichurri |
Aug-30-11 07:53 AM |
#46 |
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You are badly misinformed about Politico. Politico is a Republican operation |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:41 AM |
#249 |
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When has Taibbi, Hamsher or Greenwald ever given false information? This guy is a tool.. |
Chimichurri |
Aug-30-11 07:52 AM |
#43 |
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Seriously? the next time one of the trio gives correct information |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 07:58 AM |
#55 |
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That's a flat out lie. You won't be able to show one instance where they've behaved |
Chimichurri |
Aug-30-11 08:00 AM |
#59 |
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Now we have anti-intellectual crap being spewed from the "left" |
WhollyHeretic |
Aug-30-11 07:43 AM |
#29 |
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Milt's article is far more intellectual than any of the crap spewed by the PF |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 07:44 AM |
#33 |
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What is "anti intellectual" about it? nt |
sufrommich |
Aug-30-11 07:50 AM |
#39 |
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Must be the references to Hobbes and Locke |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:17 AM |
#199 |
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How many other right-wing strategies and talking points |
LWolf |
Aug-30-11 07:59 AM |
#57 |
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Nothing right wing in the article. The fact that you had no choice but to make things up |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:16 AM |
#196 |
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Really? Claiming anyone criticizing Obama |
LondonReign2 |
Aug-30-11 10:38 AM |
#237 |
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That's 'being spewed from the "FEFT" to you, Mr. Pirate Flag! |
hatrack |
Aug-30-11 08:09 AM |
#67 |
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Ah, the narcissists are out in droves unreccing their little izods off. |
cliffordu |
Aug-30-11 07:47 AM |
#35 |
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I find the op nasty and pugnacious. thanks for reminding me to unrec it. |
cali |
Aug-30-11 07:51 AM |
#41 |
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Ouch, that'll show me...... |
cliffordu |
Aug-30-11 07:54 AM |
#48 |
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Good point on the negativity coming from both sides but you're not considering... |
matmar |
Aug-30-11 07:49 AM |
#38 |
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You do something about what you can control |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 07:52 AM |
#44 |
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If you're hoping to control anybody you're doing it wrong. |
Lasher |
Aug-30-11 07:55 AM |
#51 |
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What a steaming pile of Opposite Day horseshit. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Aug-30-11 07:50 AM |
#40 |
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Since this is opposite day, you're saying this is a great article |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 07:51 AM |
#42 |
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An interesting read, but I fear his points will be demonstrated |
MineralMan |
Aug-30-11 07:59 AM |
#58 |
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Interesting is a very vague word |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-30-11 09:08 AM |
#113 |
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Interesting is not a vague word. It simply means that the article |
MineralMan |
Aug-30-11 09:12 AM |
#115 |
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I asked you if this is the style you use door to door. Is it? |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-30-11 09:45 AM |
#155 |
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This thread is not mine, nor is it about me. |
MineralMan |
Aug-30-11 09:55 AM |
#165 |
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This is a discussion. It is about tactics and style, name calling |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-30-11 10:13 AM |
#190 |
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It seems to me that your question would be better addressed to |
MineralMan |
Aug-30-11 10:38 AM |
#241 |
| -
More of the same Turd Way hogwash, excuses, and finger pointing to excuse |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-30-11 08:04 AM |
#64 |
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So many false PF talking points in one sentence |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 08:09 AM |
#66 |
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Whatever.... |
izquierdista |
Aug-30-11 08:07 AM |
#65 |
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How completely and embarassingly offensive |
Blasphemer |
Aug-30-11 08:17 AM |
#73 |
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Unrecommended. |
Enthusiast |
Aug-30-11 08:25 AM |
#77 |
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A rose by any other name is still |
Zorra |
Aug-30-11 08:28 AM |
#78 |
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Addressed and totally shut down |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 08:36 AM |
#87 |
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What would be interesting to me |
socialist_n_TN |
Aug-30-11 10:19 AM |
#203 |
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too often, “real criticism” means "criticism I agree with" |
alc |
Aug-30-11 08:28 AM |
#79 |
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Shook isn't a 'real progressive', he's a conservadem |
Mimosa |
Aug-30-11 08:29 AM |
#80 |
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Yeah that must be it, Milt addressed this false talking point |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 08:34 AM |
#84 |
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Put up or shut up |
Generic Other |
Aug-30-11 08:49 AM |
#108 |
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Here you go, from the article |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 09:22 AM |
#127 |
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So your progressive credentials is that you post rightwing crap on DU? |
Generic Other |
Aug-30-11 09:48 AM |
#159 |
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There is nothing right wing in the article |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 09:51 AM |
#162 |
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Make things up? |
Generic Other |
Aug-30-11 09:57 AM |
#170 |
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These comments remind me of this passage |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 09:59 AM |
#174 |
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Speak for yourself -- all you do is quote this crap |
Generic Other |
Aug-30-11 10:14 AM |
#191 |
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Milt's correct in his statements |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:22 AM |
#209 |
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And so then what's to be done with the recalcitrant left? |
Generic Other |
Aug-30-11 10:38 AM |
#238 |
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I think there should be attempts to get the PF to see reason |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:42 AM |
#253 |
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Not.One.Fact |
Fumesucker |
Aug-30-11 08:31 AM |
#82 |
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It's clear you didn't read the article |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 08:40 AM |
#92 |
| -
I put up OPs attacking or making fun of Republicans.. |
Fumesucker |
Aug-30-11 08:43 AM |
#99 |
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The professional left are not Democrats |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 09:37 AM |
#143 |
| -
You're the arbiter of who is and who is not a Democrat? |
Fumesucker |
Aug-30-11 09:50 AM |
#161 |
| -
Funny there are many self proclaimed independents, greens, libertarians, communists, socialists |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:04 AM |
#178 |
| -
When did "many" become "all"? |
Fumesucker |
Aug-30-11 10:14 AM |
#192 |
| -
They make of the vast majority of the pro left |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:22 AM |
#210 |
| -
Once again a post with an unsupported claim.. |
Fumesucker |
Aug-30-11 10:27 AM |
#215 |
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Your claims of epic failure are unsupported, I agree |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:28 AM |
#219 |
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There is no definition for "professional left" so you're free to make it up as you go along. |
Gormy Cuss |
Aug-30-11 10:59 AM |
#293 |
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Funny how the only people supporting this OP are a who's who of DU's "sensible centrists" |
Romulox |
Aug-30-11 08:33 AM |
#83 |
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Milt addressed this false talking point |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 08:35 AM |
#86 |
| -
Listen: if you support Obama's escalation of the Drug War; his inept prosecution of three wars; |
Romulox |
Aug-30-11 08:41 AM |
#96 |
| -
The president didn't "escalate" the drug war |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 08:43 AM |
#100 |
| -
Nonsense. His Attorney General, Eric Holder, has implemented a policy of raiding med. marijuana |
Romulox |
Aug-30-11 08:45 AM |
#103 |
| -
Name one raid |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 09:13 AM |
#117 |
| -
Now you are asking *other* people for citations? |
Fumesucker |
Aug-30-11 09:25 AM |
#131 |
| -
I'll take this comment as proof the drug meme is just an urban legend |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 09:27 AM |
#132 |
| -
Show me any link you have provided to documented facts... |
Fumesucker |
Aug-30-11 09:29 AM |
#135 |
| -
Here's one |
Generic Other |
Aug-30-11 10:28 AM |
#220 |
| -
Can you show me where to get in on this money train? |
Fumesucker |
Aug-30-11 10:41 AM |
#250 |
| -
I don't think they will pay us for doing that |
Generic Other |
Aug-30-11 10:43 AM |
#254 |
| -
I guess "real progressive" = Icon Defender |
n2doc |
Aug-30-11 08:35 AM |
#85 |
| -
one can delude themselves - but the current Democratic Party is on economics to the right of the old |
Douglas Carpenter |
Aug-30-11 08:38 AM |
#91 |
| -
The article addresses this point of view |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 08:41 AM |
#94 |
| -
no Obama is doing pretty much what I expected him or any other leading Democratic Party |
Douglas Carpenter |
Aug-30-11 09:06 AM |
#112 |
| -
More from the article |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 09:23 AM |
#128 |
| -
oh come on.. in the aftermath of the 2008 collapse he was elected with a mandate for making sweeping |
Douglas Carpenter |
Aug-30-11 09:37 AM |
#144 |
| -
He was elected with a non-functional majority in the Senate |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 09:38 AM |
#145 |
| -
a 59 seat majority was a lot more than anything that George Bush or Ronald Reagan ever had |
Douglas Carpenter |
Aug-30-11 09:55 AM |
#166 |
| -
Doesn't matter if 59 is more than others, it was non-functional |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 09:58 AM |
#172 |
| -
what was going on in the real world was the aftermath of a mandate for sweeping change coming on the |
Douglas Carpenter |
Aug-30-11 10:14 AM |
#194 |
| -
It was a mandate that was ignored by the GOP |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:26 AM |
#213 |
| -
All the name calling coupled with a lack of facts |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-30-11 08:41 AM |
#93 |
| -
An inconvenient truth |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 08:42 AM |
#97 |
| -
No, name calling is not truth, it is characterization in place of |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-30-11 09:33 AM |
#141 |
| -
When I think "real progressive" I think "Milt Shook" |
dawg |
Aug-30-11 08:41 AM |
#95 |
| -
Milt Shook gets results because he understand politics and the nature of our Country |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 08:45 AM |
#102 |
| -
And what results does he get? |
dawg |
Aug-30-11 08:49 AM |
#107 |
| -
Democrats elected |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 09:20 AM |
#123 |
| -
What color is the sky in your world? |
dawg |
Aug-30-11 09:40 AM |
#148 |
| -
How come with all those results he doesn't even have a wikipedia page? |
JVS |
Aug-30-11 09:57 AM |
#169 |
| -
If you judge the world based on wikipedia |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:05 AM |
#179 |
| -
I'm just saying it would be nice to see a bio on the guy that isn't from his chintzy webpage |
JVS |
Aug-30-11 10:08 AM |
#182 |
| -
You could buy one of his books |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:24 AM |
#212 |
| -
No. Sorry, but this guy needs some bona fides before he attacks people like Krugman |
JVS |
Aug-30-11 10:26 AM |
#214 |
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Other than getting himself awards what has Krugman accomplished for any of us |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:29 AM |
#221 |
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Including winning awards, what has Shook accomplished for anyone? |
JVS |
Aug-30-11 10:54 AM |
#278 |
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Yeah seriously, who is this guy? |
JVS |
Aug-30-11 09:46 AM |
#156 |
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Why is anything from Milt Shook still unlocked? |
Warren Stupidity |
Aug-30-11 08:43 AM |
#98 |
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Yes, we must censor progressive ideas being expressed |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 08:44 AM |
#101 |
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Same reason a guy who brags about voting for McCain in 2008 is one of our leading posters... |
Romulox |
Aug-30-11 08:47 AM |
#105 |
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I missed that one.. |
Fumesucker |
Aug-30-11 09:18 AM |
#119 |
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Who was that? |
JVS |
Aug-30-11 09:53 AM |
#163 |
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My first unrec. Pit so called progressives against so called professional left. |
Curmudgeoness |
Aug-30-11 08:48 AM |
#106 |
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The pro left pitted liberals against the Democratic party, that gave us a Republican Congress |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 09:33 AM |
#140 |
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I think you are going to far with that. If liberals are disappointed |
Curmudgeoness |
Aug-30-11 09:43 AM |
#152 |
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The vast majority of the voters don't follow politics closely |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 09:45 AM |
#153 |
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It doesn't really matter what liberals are saying, if the economy |
Curmudgeoness |
Aug-30-11 10:01 AM |
#175 |
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So you are saying the Democratic Party |
LondonReign2 |
Aug-30-11 10:16 AM |
#197 |
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Liberals are a constiuent of the Democratic party |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:27 AM |
#216 |
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So this Professional Feft(?) you fantasize about |
LondonReign2 |
Aug-30-11 10:48 AM |
#262 |
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Who is this Milt Shook person? |
MadHound |
Aug-30-11 08:52 AM |
#109 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-30-11 09:01 AM |
#110 |
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His business card reads |
Chimichurri |
Aug-30-11 09:13 AM |
#116 |
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I love the TV show "House" and I think Hugh Laurie is an amazing actor. |
racaulk |
Aug-30-11 09:02 AM |
#111 |
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If you like House, you have to watch Black Adder and also |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-30-11 09:21 AM |
#125 |
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You know another great show? |
racaulk |
Aug-30-11 09:53 AM |
#164 |
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Walking Dead is excellent! |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-30-11 10:19 AM |
#204 |
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Really tired of all the "negative-adjective" left and "negative- connotation" left |
suffragette |
Aug-30-11 09:09 AM |
#114 |
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Red baiting from the Party purists is nothing new. Meh. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Aug-30-11 09:18 AM |
#120 |
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Now there is the a false meme that Milt forgot to address |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 09:21 AM |
#124 |
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Milt is like a god to you, how disappointing he let you down on this one. |
Warren Stupidity |
Aug-30-11 09:28 AM |
#133 |
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As I stated in the beginning Milt completely disassembled the Pro Left |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 09:30 AM |
#136 |
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"our side" = right of center |
LondonReign2 |
Aug-30-11 10:22 AM |
#211 |
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If that's your side so be it |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:47 AM |
#260 |
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On the contrary, Milt's entire piece is McCarthyite crap. |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-30-11 09:56 AM |
#168 |
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"McCarthyite crap" in what way exactly |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:48 AM |
#261 |
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This is embarrassing |
Oilwellian |
Aug-30-11 09:22 AM |
#126 |
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Milt is an extremely intelligent and perceptive man |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 09:28 AM |
#134 |
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K&R |
treestar |
Aug-30-11 09:38 AM |
#146 |
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I couldn't agree more |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 09:47 AM |
#158 |
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Apparently I have no real contact with myself! Or with anyone in my neighborhood. |
eShirl |
Aug-30-11 09:45 AM |
#154 |
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Sounds like he is to progressives what Velveeta is to cheese. |
marmar |
Aug-30-11 09:47 AM |
#157 |
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You sound like one of those people that believe that to be a real progressive |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 09:48 AM |
#160 |
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Bush tax cuts: Extended by Democrats.. |
Fumesucker |
Aug-30-11 09:58 AM |
#171 |
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Bush tax cuts = tax cuts for the lower and middle class + unemployment insurance |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:02 AM |
#176 |
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Wrong as usual.. |
Fumesucker |
Aug-30-11 10:11 AM |
#186 |
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Your points don't dispute my assertions so your claims of my being |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:41 AM |
#251 |
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A direct verbatim quote from your post # 171.. |
Fumesucker |
Aug-30-11 10:55 AM |
#279 |
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That brought a SINCERE LOL from me |
socialist_n_TN |
Aug-30-11 10:32 AM |
#225 |
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Of course. |
marmar |
Aug-30-11 10:38 AM |
#239 |
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This is called an "ad Hominem" attack and has no basis in fact. He mentions not policy positions, |
grahamhgreen |
Aug-30-11 09:56 AM |
#167 |
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If only you studied how the Professional left has operated |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:03 AM |
#177 |
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Again, no policy positions are mentioned, use of a general slur. 83% of AMERICANS |
grahamhgreen |
Aug-30-11 10:10 AM |
#184 |
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Why are you calling the left 'professional'? |
Lasher |
Aug-30-11 10:19 AM |
#201 |
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There is the real left filled with liberals and progressives than there is the professional left |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:20 AM |
#206 |
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How does that make the left 'professional'? |
Lasher |
Aug-30-11 10:40 AM |
#248 |
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The Pro Left was a term coined to describe the destructive wing of the liberals |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:49 AM |
#263 |
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Coined by whom? And what was the rationale in calling the left 'professional'? |
Lasher |
Aug-30-11 10:53 AM |
#272 |
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The Professional describe people like Hamsher who make money |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:54 AM |
#277 |
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But upthread you claimed we weren't Liberals, |
LondonReign2 |
Aug-30-11 10:55 AM |
#280 |
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Sounds like setting the bar to blame the left in a 2012 loss. You want high turnout? |
newportdadde |
Aug-30-11 09:58 AM |
#173 |
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More like trying to stop the self destructive behavior before we have another GOP victory |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:05 AM |
#180 |
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If they keep talking like they do... |
Generic Other |
Aug-30-11 10:11 AM |
#187 |
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I'm a little confused as to your ultimate goal here |
LondonReign2 |
Aug-30-11 10:07 AM |
#181 |
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The goal is to win elections and defeat the GOP |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:16 AM |
#195 |
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We are not being asked to defeat the GOP |
Generic Other |
Aug-30-11 10:17 AM |
#198 |
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That is simply untrue |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:19 AM |
#202 |
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Your get out the vote strategy is a failure then |
Generic Other |
Aug-30-11 10:31 AM |
#224 |
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Weird. He uses the same sort of disjointed, fact-free stream of conciousness |
Marr |
Aug-30-11 10:20 AM |
#205 |
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Sorry you were unwilling to read with an open mind |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:21 AM |
#207 |
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There's a difference between an open mind and an empty head.. |
Fumesucker |
Aug-30-11 10:34 AM |
#229 |
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Yes but it's clear many are unwilling to listen or entertain views that don't support their position |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:37 AM |
#235 |
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It's good to meet a really objective person... |
Fumesucker |
Aug-30-11 10:46 AM |
#258 |
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Lifelong small d democrat and a Progressive |
rms013 |
Aug-30-11 10:22 AM |
#208 |
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Milt tweeted the perfect response |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:34 AM |
#230 |
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Now that's a real progressive. Too bad he sounds like |
Autumn |
Aug-30-11 10:28 AM |
#218 |
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Wow so you think conservatives want to see the GOP to lose and the Dems to win |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:32 AM |
#226 |
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How does ridiculing Dems make the GOP lose and the Dems win? |
ClassWarrior |
Aug-30-11 10:35 AM |
#232 |
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That's a strange question as Milt was supporting the Dems and ridiculing the PF |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:37 AM |
#233 |
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Okay, how does ridiculing the majority of Dems do those things? |
ClassWarrior |
Aug-30-11 10:38 AM |
#236 |
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You tell me, you insult the majority of Dems every time you use |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:50 AM |
#264 |
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That's ridiculous. I don't even believe "centrists" exist. |
ClassWarrior |
Aug-30-11 10:52 AM |
#268 |
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Your first sentence is in complete contradiction of your second sentence |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:53 AM |
#273 |
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An English lesson from someone who thinks "professional left" is abbreviated "PF?" |
ClassWarrior |
Aug-30-11 10:55 AM |
#284 |
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I see you are very confused |
Autumn |
Aug-30-11 10:39 AM |
#246 |
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You ignored the glaring mistake you made |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:51 AM |
#267 |
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Does that change the fact that his drivel |
Autumn |
Aug-30-11 10:55 AM |
#281 |
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I have known milt for 15 years since usenet and to call him a real |
dameocrat67 |
Aug-30-11 10:30 AM |
#222 |
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Milt just tweeted a perfect response |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:33 AM |
#227 |
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Not everyone operates the way you do.. |
Fumesucker |
Aug-30-11 10:35 AM |
#231 |
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HA! |
Rex |
Aug-30-11 10:57 AM |
#288 |
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That's kind of what I thought. At least |
socialist_n_TN |
Aug-30-11 10:37 AM |
#234 |
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Criticism from the left is a GOOD thing, for everyone involved. |
iamthebandfanman |
Aug-30-11 10:40 AM |
#247 |
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If what you say were true, we wouldn't have lost in 2010 |
VeryConfused |
Aug-30-11 10:44 AM |
#255 |
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...who? |
Union Scribe |
Aug-30-11 10:52 AM |
#269 |
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A total nobody. |
Rex |
Aug-30-11 10:54 AM |
#276 |
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Wow that guy is a stupid idiot, glad he ain't a real progressive. |
Rex |
Aug-30-11 10:53 AM |
#274 |
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Who is Milt Shook? |
Romulox |
Aug-30-11 10:53 AM |
#275 |
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Some loser that lusts after Ayn Rand? |
Rex |
Aug-30-11 10:55 AM |
#282 |
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Well he's not some do-nothing Nobel laureate, as I learned Paul Krugman is upthread. |
JVS |
Aug-30-11 10:56 AM |
#285 |
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Why ask useless questions? How deep is the ocean? How high is the sky? Who is Milt Shook? |
Romulox |
Aug-30-11 10:58 AM |
#291 |
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This article's already been posted once, hasn't it? |
JackDragna |
Aug-30-11 10:58 AM |
#290 |
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Copyright violation, way over 4 paragraphs, unless you are the author "quoted"? |
Bluebear |
Aug-30-11 10:59 AM |
#292 |
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locking |
mopinko |
Aug-30-11 11:00 AM |
#294 |
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