Rebubula
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Tue Aug-30-11 02:30 PM
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Edited on Tue Aug-30-11 02:32 PM by Rebubula
...for fear mongering and false equivalencies. No desire to type all the reasons...plus, they would not convince anyone that agrees with this OP.
I do, however, enjoy these hyperbolic posts equating the US to the 3rd Reich.
Until they shut down Freedom of Speech, the Press and the 2nd Amendment - I call fantasy bullshit on this post and all others like it.
I think some people WANT to see this happening.
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| -We always joke about the "Hitler (history) Channel," but... |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Aug-29-11 08:23 PM |
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Yeah, I know what you mean, I grew up during WWII. There are some |
RKP5637 |
Aug-29-11 08:30 PM |
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Fascism never changes. Only the names change. nt |
valerief |
Aug-29-11 08:31 PM |
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To understand the Third Reich, you have to understand the humiliation from the First World War |
no_hypocrisy |
Aug-29-11 08:33 PM |
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Yes, to understand the Third Reich, |
tabasco |
Aug-31-11 05:37 PM |
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I just finished a history course titled "Nazi Germany" and do not agree |
sammytko |
Aug-29-11 08:34 PM |
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I hope that "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" |
Cleita |
Aug-29-11 08:54 PM |
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Best WWII book ever. |
virgogal |
Aug-29-11 09:07 PM |
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It's not just about WWII but the events leading |
Cleita |
Aug-29-11 09:27 PM |
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There also were people in Germany at the beginning |
newspeak |
Aug-30-11 11:45 AM |
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I've read it several times many years ago. |
pnorman |
Aug-29-11 10:45 PM |
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" . . . industrial fascism." That is the crux of our problem as our leaders scramble to provide jobs |
Major Hogwash |
Aug-30-11 07:37 AM |
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It is a very good, thoroughly researched book. |
Major Hogwash |
Aug-30-11 07:39 AM |
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Cleita |
Diclotican |
Aug-31-11 01:05 PM |
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Do, because he was given access to all the Nazi archives |
Cleita |
Aug-31-11 05:35 PM |
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Cleita |
Diclotican |
Sep-01-11 02:16 PM |
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the inflation is bad, but we aren't leaving at lunch break... |
stuckinarut |
Aug-29-11 09:05 PM |
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that was the aftermath of ww1. 1921-1923. |
indurancevile |
Aug-30-11 01:03 AM |
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Right, the inflation that moistened the soil for fascism to |
stuckinarut |
Aug-30-11 07:39 AM |
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There's so many parallels between the rise of the tea party and the rise of the Nazis it isn't funny |
Initech |
Aug-29-11 08:36 PM |
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Human Smoke. |
rug |
Aug-29-11 08:39 PM |
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I get the same feeling |
Bragi |
Aug-29-11 08:39 PM |
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The Kershaw book is superb |
hifiguy |
Aug-30-11 02:06 PM |
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Americans scoff at any comparisons to the rise or the Third Reich |
judgegblue |
Aug-29-11 08:39 PM |
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What's strange is in Hitler's book "Mein Kampf", he |
Cleita |
Aug-29-11 08:55 PM |
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A strongly recommended read |
The Blue Flower |
Aug-29-11 08:45 PM |
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Also: "In the Garden of Beasts: Love, Terror, and an American Family in Hitler's Berlin" |
Bragi |
Aug-30-11 07:20 AM |
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No, we're not |
alcibiades_mystery |
Aug-29-11 08:46 PM |
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OMG! |
dennis4868 |
Aug-29-11 08:46 PM |
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Sounds like a bunch of lunatics |
sammytko |
Aug-29-11 08:50 PM |
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Yes, those who are benefitting from the fascism rising |
Cleita |
Aug-29-11 09:01 PM |
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My grandfather... |
dennis4868 |
Aug-29-11 08:47 PM |
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What happened was gradual and the worst atrocities |
Cleita |
Aug-29-11 08:59 PM |
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The poor and the brown. |
hifiguy |
Aug-30-11 02:08 PM |
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Then let's compare what's happening now |
OnyxCollie |
Aug-30-11 01:48 AM |
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Yeah, because if these whack job Christians get power.... |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Aug-30-11 07:00 AM |
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When should we start comparing the two? |
osteenq |
Aug-30-11 04:41 PM |
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give me a break.... |
dennis4868 |
Aug-30-11 07:20 PM |
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We're just one Reichstag fire away |
notadmblnd |
Aug-29-11 09:24 PM |
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We had the Reichstag fire. It was known as 9-11. That's |
Cleita |
Aug-29-11 09:29 PM |
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+1 |
hifiguy |
Aug-30-11 02:47 PM |
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With Obama in charge, Dem Senate, Dem house until recently? |
Zax2me |
Aug-29-11 10:09 PM |
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Again, see the comparison to the Wiemar Republic. We are led my spineless weenies. They are led by |
Erose999 |
Aug-29-11 10:52 PM |
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Read "The 12 Year Reich" by Richard Grunberger |
Taverner |
Aug-29-11 10:54 PM |
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But great in market placement |
izquierdista |
Aug-29-11 11:24 PM |
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Absolutely. Its about control of the perception of reality without regard FOR reality. |
napoleon_in_rags |
Aug-29-11 11:34 PM |
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Exactly. It's make up your own reality. Are you listening |
Cleita |
Aug-30-11 11:41 AM |
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It will take another economic catastatrophe to "wake us up" |
steve2470 |
Aug-29-11 11:53 PM |
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My son called it to me in 2000. |
Lugnut |
Aug-30-11 12:51 AM |
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And yet they peacefully transitioned power after the 2008 election. |
hugo_from_TN |
Aug-30-11 01:59 PM |
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damn you and your logic! |
Rebubula |
Aug-30-11 02:34 PM |
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Did they? |
OnyxCollie |
Aug-30-11 04:31 PM |
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So now we are equating Obama with Hitler on DU? |
hugo_from_TN |
Aug-30-11 06:20 PM |
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You are. |
OnyxCollie |
Aug-30-11 06:22 PM |
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Transitioned to another one of their own |
FiveGoodMen |
Aug-30-11 05:51 PM |
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Capitalism and Fascism are two different things |
Hippo_Tron |
Aug-30-11 01:01 AM |
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Of course, being Jewish you would rather live here. |
Cleita |
Aug-30-11 11:31 AM |
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A Godwin thread...sweet! |
tjwash |
Aug-30-11 07:40 AM |
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Huh? |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Aug-30-11 08:11 AM |
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Don't forget Mexicans or any others who aren't properly |
Cleita |
Aug-30-11 11:39 AM |
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..."you will see how we are heading in the EXACT SAME DIRECTION! " |
Cool Logic |
Aug-30-11 11:48 AM |
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Have you seen the buses rolling |
Cleita |
Aug-30-11 11:57 AM |
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"...and we are reaching that degree at a state level." |
Cool Logic |
Aug-30-11 02:19 PM |
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You quote Goebbels for a definition of socialism? |
Cleita |
Aug-30-11 04:24 PM |
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It is, in fact, a Goebbels quote--sacrifice is the context and sacrifice was indeed the Nazi... |
Cool Logic |
Aug-30-11 06:37 PM |
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Well, they are not, even if Goebbels or Rush Limbaugh says so. |
Cleita |
Aug-30-11 07:14 PM |
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It doesn't matter what you, me or anyone else thinks... |
Cool Logic |
Aug-31-11 11:05 AM |
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Socialism is not those things. Go back to your dictionary. |
Cleita |
Aug-31-11 11:26 AM |
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"Real socialism is democratic not authoritarian." |
Cool Logic |
Aug-31-11 12:58 PM |
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Well, I like Denmark and they are a socialist democracy. |
Cleita |
Aug-31-11 04:53 PM |
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Well, Denmark is a Capitalist nation with the most free-market economy in the EU-15 |
Cool Logic |
Sep-01-11 11:07 AM |
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Yes, that's why it's called a social democracy. Yes, it is |
Cleita |
Sep-01-11 11:16 AM |
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Actually, it looks like you have been convinced of the superiority of Capitalism.... |
Cool Logic |
Sep-01-11 11:57 AM |
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No, I haven't been. If capitalism was so superior where |
Cleita |
Sep-01-11 12:03 PM |
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"However, this conversation was about your misunderstanding of socialism..." |
Cool Logic |
Sep-01-11 12:50 PM |
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delete |
Cleita |
Sep-01-11 02:23 PM |
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Government means of production is |
Cleita |
Sep-01-11 02:45 PM |
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Also, you are very naive to think people are honorable |
Cleita |
Sep-01-11 02:51 PM |
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Yes. We must wait for the total destruction of America before admitting there's a problem |
FiveGoodMen |
Aug-30-11 05:53 PM |
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"False hope is a form of torture." |
Cool Logic |
Aug-31-11 11:07 AM |
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I just re-read the Shock Doctrine and found it more disturbing today than during Bush's tenure. |
Marr |
Aug-30-11 11:49 AM |
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That's a must read IMHO to understand what's happening today. |
Cleita |
Aug-30-11 11:58 AM |
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Just finishing "The Shock Doctrine" now. |
hifiguy |
Aug-30-11 02:45 PM |
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It blows my mind that even DUers say you're crazy just because, after all, we're not putting jews in |
lib_wit_it |
Aug-30-11 01:49 PM |
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The players today are different but the model is the same. The core |
harun |
Aug-31-11 11:15 AM |
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That's why they're now headed in the direction of |
hifiguy |
Aug-30-11 02:00 PM |
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do you know of noam chomsky? |
BOG PERSON |
Aug-30-11 02:13 PM |
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Have you read anything or seen anything about the years leading up to WW2? |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Aug-30-11 03:51 PM |
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If Chomsky said it, then we all better sit up and take |
Cleita |
Aug-31-11 10:11 AM |
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i disagree |
BOG PERSON |
Aug-31-11 05:33 PM |
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He sure got it right about Latin America and Vietnam. |
Cleita |
Aug-31-11 05:39 PM |
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Unrec... |
Rebubula |
Aug-30-11 02:30 PM |
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They don't have to "shut down" these things any more |
hifiguy |
Aug-30-11 02:42 PM |
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OK |
Rebubula |
Aug-30-11 02:56 PM |
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Yeah, because I WANT FASCISM. |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Aug-30-11 03:54 PM |
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"Until they shut down Freedom of Speech, the Press and the 2nd Amendment - |
OnyxCollie |
Aug-30-11 04:57 PM |
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A few commonalities, mostly vastly oversimplified parallels, but also huge differences. |
Bucky |
Aug-30-11 04:50 PM |
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Give examples. |
ecstatic |
Aug-30-11 05:59 PM |
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Okay. |
OnyxCollie |
Aug-30-11 06:10 PM |
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I said much the same thing in Sept. 2001 |
LadyHawkAZ |
Aug-30-11 06:10 PM |
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