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joshguitar Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 02:48 PM
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75. for those of you spewing hate..
and attacking Al Gore. here is a forum that would love your support!!!!!

http://www.americanthinker.com
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  -Al Gore compares today's global warming skeptics to racists of the past garybeck  Aug-29-11 01:28 AM   #0 
  - unrec for a stupid analogy.  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 01:30 AM   #1 
  - it's not stupid. did you watch the video?  garybeck   Aug-29-11 01:43 AM   #2 
  - Some people will do anything for  xxqqqzme   Aug-29-11 01:52 AM   #3 
  - you mean gore? because i assure you, i don't get paid for this, wish i did, because i need the  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 02:08 AM   #5 
     - Need work? Write your Republicon reps and tell them to support America  SpiralHawk   Aug-29-11 04:19 AM   #17 
        - democrats control the white house & senate. so why just republican reps?  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 02:40 PM   #73 
  - no, i read the gore quote in your post. i do not have a high opinion of gore's honesty  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 02:06 AM   #4 
     - He didn't say there is an analogy between racism and global warming  FreeState   Aug-29-11 02:13 AM   #7 
     - no, he just *made* the analogy.  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 02:15 AM   #8 
     - no he didn't. he's talking about winning the battle in public discourse  garybeck   Aug-29-11 02:25 AM   #10 
        - the analogy is between people who don't believe in global warming & racists.  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 02:28 AM   #11 
           - you are stupid for not reading the article....title and content are not the same  adhd_what_huh   Aug-29-11 08:20 AM   #26 
           - i read the quote, & i believe calling a poster stupid rather than the poster's  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 02:35 PM   #67 
           - I imagine we more often than not interpret things  LanternWaste   Aug-29-11 09:21 AM   #28 
     - yes. That is my understanding as well. Education is key  Tuesday Afternoon   Aug-29-11 02:43 AM   #12 
        - yes, people like you & gore should educate the benighted masses.  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 03:57 AM   #15 
           - take from it what you will. Good luck to you.  Tuesday Afternoon   Aug-29-11 05:31 AM   #22 
     - Gore can afford his own Creedence, anyway nt  Dreamer Tatum   Aug-29-11 11:11 AM   #33 
     - why sooooo upset?  fascisthunter   Aug-29-11 01:19 PM   #56 
  - It's a perfect analogy,  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 12:01 PM   #37 
  - +1  rl6214   Aug-29-11 03:41 PM   #100 
  - Rec for accurate analogy. In fact most denialists I know are racists.  joshcryer   Aug-30-11 01:25 AM   #132 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Aug-29-11 02:13 AM   #6 
  - +1 nt  joshguitar   Aug-29-11 02:18 AM   #9 
  - I promise to keep my carbon footprint  guardian   Aug-29-11 03:03 AM   #13 
  - ad hominem  joshguitar   Aug-29-11 03:13 AM   #14 
     - it's not ad hominem. the poster says he's a hypocrite, and he is. why should anyone else  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 04:00 AM   #16 
     - well  joshguitar   Aug-29-11 04:35 AM   #19 
     - the poster wasn't debating al gore.  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 04:41 AM   #20 
        - you re reading these right?  joshguitar   Aug-29-11 10:26 AM   #29 
           - his speaking fees are the least of his income. do some research.  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 02:50 PM   #77 
              - deal!  joshguitar   Aug-29-11 03:25 PM   #93 
     - why should anyone else do shit . . .? uh -- because they are  Tuesday Afternoon   Aug-29-11 05:29 AM   #21 
     - the same bullshit since the 60s. "consumer choice, individual choice". no, it's not.  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 06:04 AM   #24 
        - I must say you chose a very appropriate user name. suits you perfectly.  Tuesday Afternoon   Aug-30-11 01:10 AM   #127 
           - i must say you made it obvious you don't know what the name means  indurancevile   Aug-30-11 01:23 AM   #131 
              - try to give someone a compliment. sheesh. good bye indurance vile.  Tuesday Afternoon   Aug-30-11 09:26 AM   #148 
     - "why should anyone else do shit when al gore doesn't practice  bertman   Aug-30-11 08:33 AM   #146 
     - Al has no credibility, because his walk don't match his talk. nt  Romulox   Aug-29-11 11:37 AM   #36 
     - refuted above nt  joshguitar   Aug-29-11 02:42 PM   #74 
        - Nonsense. Al Gore uses 20 times more energy than the average American, then pays HIS OWN company  Romulox   Aug-29-11 03:01 PM   #83 
           - Relevance? Is his own company not investing in physical offsets?  joshcryer   Aug-30-11 01:30 AM   #137 
     - I submit that Al Gore  guardian   Aug-29-11 02:53 PM   #78 
        - i submit  joshguitar   Aug-29-11 03:36 PM   #97 
        - i submit that the info on gore's energy use & lifestyle isn't "corp propaganda".  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 04:41 PM   #118 
           - sigh  joshguitar   Aug-29-11 05:02 PM   #121 
        - Do you dispute the science of global warming?  Hippo_Tron   Aug-30-11 01:05 AM   #126 
           - Denying global warming or climate change should be a bannable offense  Hugabear   Aug-30-11 01:19 AM   #129 
              - our very own star chamber  indurancevile   Aug-30-11 01:26 AM   #134 
                 - Do you think we should allow Right-wing propaganda on DU?  Hugabear   Aug-30-11 01:35 AM   #138 
                    - i think your definition of "right wing propaganda" = overly wide  indurancevile   Aug-30-11 01:51 AM   #141 
  - Methinks Al has just jumped the shark.  digitaln3rd   Aug-29-11 04:35 AM   #18 
  - methinks they could have given the article a better subject line n/t  Tuesday Afternoon   Aug-29-11 05:41 AM   #23 
  - THank you Al Gore  malaise   Aug-29-11 06:39 AM   #25 
  - Well, he should not have made wild claims.  Zax2me   Aug-29-11 08:25 AM   #27 
  - just denier-y  nashville_brook   Aug-29-11 10:43 AM   #30 
  - I do not think you understand how the science works  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-30-11 01:41 AM   #140 
  - Does that mean Al Gore gets to use the N word so long as he donates to the UNCF?  Dreamer Tatum   Aug-29-11 11:02 AM   #31 
  - Do as I say  Broderick   Aug-29-11 11:06 AM   #32 
  - yep. the rich get to do whatever they want with a "green" mask -- AND lecture the masses about how  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 02:37 PM   #69 
  - Come on... some of Gore's BEST FRIENDS are black.  cherokeeprogressive   Aug-29-11 02:37 PM   #70 
  - The Gore hate on this thread blows my mind  wuushew   Aug-29-11 11:19 AM   #34 
  - It's not Gore hate, it's Gore is being a Hypocrite. Why would you support a hypocrite?  ItNerd4life   Aug-29-11 12:09 PM   #39 
  - Gore leads a carbon neutral lifestyle, he's not a hypocrite but even if he were  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 12:13 PM   #40 
     - he doesn't lead a "carbon neutral" lifestyle. buying "carbon offsets" from your  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 12:50 PM   #44 
     - The only thing that matters is what are the offsets used for, if it neutralizes or counter balances  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 01:04 PM   #48 
     - Or Al could use his fair share of energy. You know, like he admonishes us to do.  Romulox   Aug-29-11 01:06 PM   #50 
     - You missed the message, Gore has never mentioned "fair share" Gore has promoted  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 01:24 PM   #57 
        - Bullshit. If you believe Al's Armageddon spiel, MASSIVE cuts in consumption are needed.  Romulox   Aug-29-11 01:26 PM   #58 
        - I hate it when you cuss, it makes me cry.  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 01:36 PM   #60 
           - he's leading the way to the bank.  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 03:36 PM   #98 
              - The final paragraph in your own link from post #94.  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 03:50 PM   #104 
                 - spamming that quote doesn't help your case. the article is about how at present carbon markets DON'T  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 04:13 PM   #111 
                    - Spamming that paragraph became a requirement because you asked the same question and made  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 04:32 PM   #116 
                       - i didn't ask the same question, gore does enough to impugn his *own* integrity, and the article  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 04:46 PM   #119 
                          - Gore uses 100% Green Power Switch though NES  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 05:06 PM   #123 
                             - Gore apologists are hilarious, if nothing else  Dreamer Tatum   Aug-30-11 01:11 AM   #128 
                                - Gore said to do your best to live a carbon neutral lifestyle and as the government  Uncle Joe   Aug-30-11 10:02 AM   #150 
        - i could only "make millions" if i had some influence to peddle, which i don't.  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 02:39 PM   #72 
     - none of that matters unless you buy into the principle that the rich can use whatever they like &  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 02:31 PM   #66 
        - Gore isn't lecturing, he's promoting change and if he didn't care he wouldn't be paying premiums  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 02:38 PM   #71 
           - He's hurting the cause through his flat refusal to "be the change" he advocates.  Romulox   Aug-29-11 03:05 PM   #87 
           - carbon offsets just marketize construction projects that would take place anyway.  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 03:09 PM   #89 
              - Did you read the final paragraph of your own link?  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 03:43 PM   #101 
                 - "can". not "do". the article has already described the presently existing problems.  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 03:49 PM   #103 
                    - "Can" is better than nothing and if you "can" find some  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 03:55 PM   #106 
     - Pile your carbon footprint under enough bullshit and  pintobean   Aug-29-11 04:20 PM   #113 
     - Carbon offsets are offsets regardless of who is using them.  joshcryer   Aug-30-11 01:26 AM   #135 
     - Translation: Al is RICH and therefore he pays for the right to pollute.  Romulox   Aug-29-11 12:51 PM   #45 
        - No, Al Gore is rich and he should pay more.  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 01:12 PM   #51 
           - It's no more than the modern form of "indulgences" sold by the Catholic Church to rich sinners.  Romulox   Aug-29-11 01:17 PM   #53 
              - Major differences, indulgences went to the church, not the peasants.  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 01:32 PM   #59 
                 - Al is chairman of a private company that SELLS carbon offsets  Romulox   Aug-29-11 02:03 PM   #64 
                 - I'm all for this, Gore puts his money where his mouth is and he's taking an active  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 02:30 PM   #65 
                 - You were just claiming that ol' Al pays "the peasants" for the right to overconsume  Romulox   Aug-29-11 03:03 PM   #85 
                    - No, I said indulgences went to the church, not the peasants as there was virtually no middle class.  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 03:28 PM   #95 
                       - You're not making much sense. Profits from Al's corporation don't go to "the peasants" either  Romulox   Aug-29-11 03:38 PM   #99 
                          - From post #94 final paragraph, everybody benefits regardless of income class.  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 04:10 PM   #109 
                             - Echoes of Orwell: We're ALL equal, it's just that some of us are MORE equal than others.  Romulox   Aug-29-11 04:14 PM   #112 
                                - Did you even read the paragraph I just posted or is comprehension of it the challenge?  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 04:22 PM   #114 
                                   - That paragraph speaks to neither Al Gore's gluttonous over-consumption nor his financial stake in  Romulox   Aug-29-11 04:25 PM   #115 
                                      - Gore started selling carbon offsets primarily because the government wasn't moving fast enough  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 04:37 PM   #117 
                 - i.e., he doesn't buy them at all. shell game. and what are those "carbon offsets" anyway?  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 02:49 PM   #76 
                    - The final paragraph in your own link from post #94 explains but I will bold it here again  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 03:48 PM   #102 
                       - "can". in some ideal situation that (as the article has already documented) DOESN'T PRESENTLY EXIST.  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 03:52 PM   #105 
                          - Logic should tell you, "can" is better than nothing, Furthermore, Gore isn't President so  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 03:58 PM   #107 
                 - who says the "people" benefit?  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 03:19 PM   #91 
                    - The final paragraph in your own link on post #94 explains the benefits  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 04:07 PM   #108 
  - Yep.  joshcryer   Aug-30-11 01:26 AM   #133 
  - Al Gore uses an ORDER OF MAGNITUDE more energy than I do.  Romulox   Aug-29-11 11:36 AM   #35 
  - As does Gore's influence in bringing the issue of global warming climate change  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 12:08 PM   #38 
  - His personal hypocrisy hurts the cause in at least an equal measure.  Romulox   Aug-29-11 12:48 PM   #42 
     - You're suggesting Gore should have no right to speak out because you perceive him  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 12:56 PM   #47 
        - I'm "suggesting" nothing. I am directly stating that Gore is a hypocrite,  Romulox   Aug-29-11 01:05 PM   #49 
           - If Gore was a hypocrite, he wouldn't be paying any extra money for his energy usage.  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 01:16 PM   #52 
              - No. If he was a hypocrite, he would use 10 or 100 times more energy than the average person  Romulox   Aug-29-11 01:18 PM   #54 
                 - Gore pays premiums to offset his carbon burning and that extra money goes toward the development of  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 01:41 PM   #62 
                    - the rich can use whatever they want, the poor can be lectured to. fuck gore. we don't  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 02:56 PM   #79 
                       - You may not know this but the vast majority of the world runs on fossil fuels, the development  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 03:10 PM   #90 
                          - explain why it's a "useful tool".  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 03:20 PM   #92 
                             - The final paragraph on your own link on post #94 explains it.  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 04:13 PM   #110 
                                - it doesn't explain anything. it makes a claim without supporting evidence.  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 04:52 PM   #120 
                                   - The economy drives or leads the government, surely you know that by now.  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 05:11 PM   #124 
  - I'm willing to give Gore a pass on private jets and stuff because he's got to compete with the likes  Erose999   Aug-29-11 12:37 PM   #41 
     - And how about the multiple SUVs. Is there also a "perfectly good" explanation as to why Al gets 'em  Romulox   Aug-29-11 12:50 PM   #43 
     - you may give him "a pass" but he's still spending energy. and in what sense does he have  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 12:53 PM   #46 
     - Bachmann and Perry and the others make statements against climate change across the nation every day  Erose999   Aug-29-11 03:28 PM   #96 
     - His "mansion" also houses his offices and his businesses  guardian   Aug-29-11 03:00 PM   #82 
  - I think the Conservatives don't like this  fascisthunter   Aug-29-11 01:18 PM   #55 
  - nice smear. yeah, posters who think gore is a hypocrite are "conservatives"  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 02:57 PM   #80 
     - ...your efforts are a Smear and now you are  fascisthunter   Aug-29-11 03:28 PM   #94 
        - i dismiss the man and his efforts. if my argument is so "thin," why do you take such pains  indurancevile   Aug-30-11 12:55 AM   #125 
  - I understand that he's making a rhetorical comparison  loyalsister   Aug-29-11 01:38 PM   #61 
  - Gore isn't talking about the denial of science, he's talking about the demonization  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 01:56 PM   #63 
     - Racist language was not an organized attack  loyalsister   Aug-29-11 02:37 PM   #68 
        - I agree the language is not as hateful but the primary difference is the maturity of the language's  Uncle Joe   Aug-29-11 03:02 PM   #84 
  - for those of you spewing hate..  joshguitar   Aug-29-11 02:48 PM   #75 
  - ..  indurancevile   Aug-29-11 02:59 PM   #81 
  - His point was  War Horse   Aug-29-11 03:05 PM   #86 
  - It's like Jefferson giving a speech on civil rights...  Romulox   Aug-29-11 03:06 PM   #88 
  - ...  geek_sabre   Aug-29-11 05:05 PM   #122 
  - This thread is like Bizarro World  Hugabear   Aug-30-11 01:22 AM   #130 
  - Agreed.  joshcryer   Aug-30-11 01:28 AM   #136 
  - I get the linguistic analogy and he is very correct  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-30-11 01:37 AM   #139 
  - there's no "linguistic analogy"  indurancevile   Aug-30-11 01:52 AM   #142 
     - I could try to 'xplain it  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-30-11 02:05 AM   #143 
        - yeah, i'm too stupid to grasp your "linguistic analogy".  indurancevile   Aug-30-11 02:27 AM   #144 
           - I did not say that  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-30-11 02:34 AM   #145 
  - One more reason for Al Gore to be ignored and not taken seriously -  lynne   Aug-30-11 09:01 AM   #147 
     - deja vu  joshguitar   Aug-30-11 09:52 AM   #149 
 

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