The Straight Story
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Sun Aug-28-11 04:55 PM
Response to Reply #14 |
| 15. Hey now, limiting choice is now seen as good. We saved the Indians and other people from themselves |
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Now it is time to save everyone else from making choices we deem to be 'savage'.
Controlling others is the best way progressives have of making this a better country for all.
Ban sins, create a puritan society, and complain about all those who came before us and did the same thing....
Control, it's not just for the RW fundies ya know.
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| -First they came for smokers, then pets: New York City Cracking Down On Bars That Allow Pets |
The Straight Story |
Aug-28-11 04:12 PM |
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Not too long ago I was in a bar/restarurant in Amsterdam. |
The Velveteen Ocelot |
Aug-28-11 04:19 PM |
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Well some people might be allergic to pets, or may not want to smell like them |
The Straight Story |
Aug-28-11 04:22 PM |
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Or may not want to have catshit in their food... |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Aug-28-11 04:26 PM |
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Nope |
JustAnotherGen |
Aug-28-11 04:28 PM |
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I lick my ass at the bar all the time |
The Straight Story |
Aug-28-11 04:32 PM |
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Not as long as you don't lick the plates when you're done. |
The Velveteen Ocelot |
Aug-28-11 05:09 PM |
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I think there are some bars that cater to that. |
Randypiper |
Aug-28-11 06:21 PM |
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Or have them jumping up on the table after pawing the litter. |
RC |
Aug-28-11 08:04 PM |
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I'd be okay with that |
JustAnotherGen |
Aug-28-11 04:27 PM |
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You would think they'd want to raise the class level of the joint... |
pipi_k |
Aug-28-11 04:19 PM |
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I've had dogs get into fights |
Maine-ah |
Aug-28-11 04:42 PM |
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Well, people with dogs that can't get along with others |
pipi_k |
Aug-30-11 09:45 AM |
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I'm dreadfully |
JustAnotherGen |
Aug-28-11 04:25 PM |
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I LOVE smoke free restaurants. Best thing that has ever happened! |
Logical |
Aug-28-11 04:26 PM |
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It's extremism |
ixion |
Aug-28-11 04:51 PM |
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Hey now, limiting choice is now seen as good. We saved the Indians and other people from themselves |
The Straight Story |
Aug-28-11 04:55 PM |
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Yeah, no kidding |
ixion |
Aug-28-11 05:01 PM |
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You keep whining about "choice" |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Aug-28-11 05:16 PM |
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And you have a choice not to go to a bar that allows smoking - what's the big deal? (nt) |
The Straight Story |
Aug-28-11 06:04 PM |
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only now - no fucking choice before the bans. Welcome to my old world. After 400 yrs we're square. |
dmallind |
Aug-28-11 07:24 PM |
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You could always open a non-smoking one back then, Wendy's went no smoking long ago |
The Straight Story |
Aug-28-11 08:25 PM |
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"choice" is always limited. They even have laws prohibiting people from killing each other over |
uppityperson |
Aug-28-11 06:29 PM |
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Your right to swing your fist ends at MY FACE. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-28-11 08:49 PM |
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aw, come on, you extremists want to limit EVERYTHING |
uppityperson |
Aug-28-11 08:53 PM |
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I have to wear shoes, clothes, etc in stores. Any different? |
Logical |
Aug-28-11 05:03 PM |
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Yes - why yes it is: |
The Straight Story |
Aug-28-11 05:11 PM |
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Eliminating secondhand smoke in an enclosed area is extremism? |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Aug-28-11 05:15 PM |
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It's called "no one makes me go to a bar, so I don't have to be around the smoke" |
The Straight Story |
Aug-28-11 05:18 PM |
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You don't get it. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Aug-28-11 05:23 PM |
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Aug-28-11 05:25 PM |
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no-one makes smokers go to bars now so quit whining. nt |
dmallind |
Aug-28-11 07:26 PM |
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Yes, it is, because it removes CHOICE |
ixion |
Aug-28-11 05:24 PM |
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The choice to expose everyone around you to secondhand smoke? |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Aug-28-11 05:26 PM |
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Aug-28-11 05:28 PM |
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If I was an extremist, I would tell you not to smoke at all. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Aug-28-11 05:31 PM |
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There is no god |
ixion |
Aug-28-11 05:40 PM |
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It's just sensible |
dmallind |
Aug-28-11 07:23 PM |
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spoken like an extremist |
ixion |
Aug-28-11 07:25 PM |
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spoken like a moron - thanks for proving mine. Now whine about this too. |
dmallind |
Aug-28-11 07:27 PM |
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If bars didn't provide toilets |
XemaSab |
Aug-28-11 07:35 PM |
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BTW ^that^ was as specious |
XemaSab |
Aug-28-11 07:43 PM |
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Second hand smoke is a danger to my health. |
Fokker Trip |
Aug-28-11 07:42 PM |
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You are free to smoke in the pricacy of your own home. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-28-11 08:46 PM |
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yeah, it's YOUR world, we're just living in it |
ixion |
Aug-28-11 08:57 PM |
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K&R!! |
edhopper |
Aug-28-11 05:09 PM |
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me too!!! |
leftyohiolib |
Aug-28-11 05:23 PM |
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Word |
XemaSab |
Aug-28-11 06:26 PM |
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Me too. If you want to smoke, practice your filthy habit privately. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-28-11 08:45 PM |
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Today in SF you would see all sorts of "service animals", not just dogs |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-28-11 04:27 PM |
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Whoever wrote that story doesn't know Oakland bars... George Kayes allows dogs and smoking... |
LooseWilly |
Aug-28-11 04:32 PM |
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Sounds like a great idea. It will protect pets from the second hand smoke they would be exposed |
madinmaryland |
Aug-28-11 04:33 PM |
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Yes when I think of Martin Niemollers quote, smokers come instantly to mond |
Bluebear |
Aug-28-11 04:58 PM |
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So true ~ so easy to take away freedom, so hard to get it back. |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-28-11 05:02 PM |
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You took that SERIOUSLY?? Fucking Christ smokers are delusional martyr-wannabes. nt |
dmallind |
Aug-28-11 07:30 PM |
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Who's talking about smokers? |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-28-11 08:41 PM |
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Dogs are common in bars in New Orleans. |
bluedigger |
Aug-28-11 05:06 PM |
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I prefer dogs to some of the people in the bars |
FLPanhandle |
Aug-28-11 05:37 PM |
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Aug-28-11 05:38 PM |
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Next up? No kids! |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-28-11 06:13 PM |
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Agree with you. |
krabigirl |
Aug-28-11 06:14 PM |
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When my mom was 6/7 her dad used to walk to the bar with her (talking 1930's here) |
The Straight Story |
Aug-28-11 06:19 PM |
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Authoritarians have taken over everywhere and in the process |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-28-11 07:04 PM |
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Why would someone |
JustAnotherGen |
Aug-29-11 05:10 AM |
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Smokers are drug addicts. |
Fokker Trip |
Aug-28-11 07:46 PM |
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yeah, like ALCOHOL |
Texasgal |
Aug-28-11 08:36 PM |
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It certainly does when consumed in any large quantity. |
Fokker Trip |
Aug-28-11 11:18 PM |
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Don't Call It Frisco. Just say "The City" |
left on green only |
Aug-28-11 08:44 PM |
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only service animals are allowed around here |
elana i am |
Aug-28-11 08:46 PM |
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Uh, it seems obvious to me that pets in restaurants and bars would be a sanitation hazard. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-28-11 08:53 PM |
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and if your pet smokes cigarettes, forget it. |
rucky |
Aug-29-11 05:29 AM |
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