dipsydoodle
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Sun Aug-28-11 04:14 AM
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starting with those a bit short on height learning how to jump and head butt at the same time followed by how to turn quickly and kick back against a braced knee or if still facing how to stamp down against a shin bone.
NB I do not mean where girls are involved.
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| -Self-defense should be promoted as a remedy against school bullying |
bluestateguy |
Aug-26-11 11:38 PM |
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I agree. Sometimes, nothing else works except hitting the bully. |
backscatter712 |
Aug-26-11 11:40 PM |
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I am still a little person. I cannot fight. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Aug-26-11 11:44 PM |
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We had a guy that was 5'3 in high school too |
bluestateguy |
Aug-26-11 11:46 PM |
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there's one advantage to being short and being bullied. |
provis99 |
Aug-27-11 12:38 AM |
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Mister Myagi wasn't all that big, now, was he? |
MADem |
Aug-27-11 12:53 AM |
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You missed out on some things. |
The Doctor. |
Aug-27-11 01:28 AM |
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Wow! I'm impressed. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Aug-28-11 03:57 AM |
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+100. |
HughBeaumont |
Aug-28-11 01:31 PM |
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I understand, but many martial arts disciplines |
_ed_ |
Aug-27-11 08:52 AM |
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My son took Martial Arts, at tournaments he took down a kid nearly twice his size, at school he |
NotThisTime |
Aug-27-11 11:13 PM |
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You don't have to be huge and muscular to defend yourself. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-27-11 01:50 PM |
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At 5'3" |
Dorian Gray |
Aug-27-11 02:45 PM |
#48 |
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I'm 5'3". I've taken on 6'1" attacker; broken his arm, shattered his cheekbone |
REP |
Aug-28-11 11:33 AM |
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Does being small prevent you from kicking a guy in the testicles? |
Lucian |
Aug-28-11 11:35 AM |
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have you ever kicked a guy in the testicles? |
pitohui |
Aug-28-11 04:46 PM |
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Oh c'mon. |
Lucian |
Aug-28-11 05:17 PM |
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you've kicked "many" men in the testicles? really? |
pitohui |
Aug-28-11 10:16 PM |
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Most of this is bullshit. |
Drahthaardogs |
Aug-28-11 10:33 PM |
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I know of many guys who've been kicked in the testicles... |
Lucian |
Aug-28-11 10:51 PM |
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I Wasn't |
AndyTiedye |
Aug-29-11 12:57 PM |
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... |
Lucian |
Aug-28-11 10:49 PM |
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Thank you. |
raccoon |
Aug-29-11 01:06 PM |
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Total, complete, BUNK. I'm 5'3" and 135 lbs. I FEAR NOBODY. |
NM Independent |
Aug-28-11 04:12 PM |
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Self defense? |
The Midway Rebel |
Aug-26-11 11:50 PM |
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We could do that or we could just give them |
ohheckyeah |
Aug-27-11 12:01 AM |
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Well thats just idiotic. |
cleanhippie |
Aug-27-11 02:50 PM |
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Look at the post I was responding to. |
ohheckyeah |
Aug-27-11 03:04 PM |
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Ahh, sorry, my bad. |
cleanhippie |
Aug-27-11 03:36 PM |
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no problem |
ohheckyeah |
Aug-27-11 03:41 PM |
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I suppose I could have too. nt |
The Midway Rebel |
Aug-27-11 04:25 PM |
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LOL.... |
ohheckyeah |
Aug-27-11 07:55 PM |
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Don't worry. He was just trying to hijack. nt |
SteveM |
Aug-27-11 03:58 PM |
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Do you want them to be bullied or fight back? |
Joey Liberal |
Aug-27-11 09:46 AM |
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It'd be nice if they didn't get in TROUBLE for fighting back. |
HughBeaumont |
Aug-27-11 11:56 AM |
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Yep. Schools nowadays employ "zero tolerance." Means nothing changes. nt |
SteveM |
Aug-27-11 04:02 PM |
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Hell, it'd be nice if they didn't get in trouble for being assaulted in the first place |
Posteritatis |
Aug-28-11 04:27 PM |
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Neither. |
The Midway Rebel |
Aug-27-11 12:01 PM |
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Please explain to us non-violent methods of stopping an assault in progress. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Aug-28-11 04:36 PM |
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Step one. |
The Midway Rebel |
Aug-29-11 12:01 PM |
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So you're hopelessly naive and have never been jumped. Okay then. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Aug-29-11 04:05 PM |
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Wrong. |
The Midway Rebel |
Aug-29-11 04:34 PM |
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A little "gouging" and "crushing" doesn't sound bad. Might end the bullying.nt |
SteveM |
Aug-27-11 04:00 PM |
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Yeah. |
The Midway Rebel |
Aug-27-11 04:22 PM |
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Let 'em walk in. And who would be the one sued? The school or the parent? |
SteveM |
Aug-27-11 04:25 PM |
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I suppose it would depend on the case. |
The Midway Rebel |
Aug-27-11 04:29 PM |
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And the cases don't usually involve stretching: |
SteveM |
Aug-27-11 04:39 PM |
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Care to answer my question? |
The Midway Rebel |
Aug-27-11 07:17 PM |
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Wrist locks. |
aikoaiko |
Aug-27-11 08:32 PM |
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Certainly |
texshelters |
Aug-26-11 11:55 PM |
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Sometimes all you have to do is to be |
ohheckyeah |
Aug-27-11 12:04 AM |
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But sometims the person bullied is hopelessly smaller than the other |
JDPriestly |
Aug-27-11 12:16 AM |
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Well you know |
Skip_In_Boulder |
Aug-27-11 12:29 AM |
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Bruce Lee also had enhanced fighting skill and was fast. |
HughBeaumont |
Aug-27-11 01:30 AM |
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Sure, but he wasn't born with them |
Skip_In_Boulder |
Aug-27-11 01:10 PM |
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I was told to hit back and I will instill the same wisdom. |
Modern_Matthew |
Aug-27-11 12:20 AM |
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Fighting back means that the school has failed in its duty to protect the non-bully |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-27-11 12:29 AM |
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One of the reasons zero-tolerance doesn't make sense. Adults can not be omnipresent and omnipotent. |
fishbulb703 |
Aug-27-11 02:51 PM |
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The sad thing is, though, that the bullies will also learn the techniques. |
MADem |
Aug-27-11 12:47 AM |
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The Bullies are More Athletic, so They Would Learn the Techniques Much Faster |
AndyTiedye |
Aug-27-11 03:59 AM |
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Bullies have been around a looooooong time. They are not big adapters. |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-27-11 03:08 PM |
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I disagree. |
wolfgangmo |
Aug-27-11 04:28 PM |
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Why Would it Be Any Different From Any Other School Athletic Activity? |
AndyTiedye |
Aug-28-11 03:25 AM |
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My thoughts are below. I think your questions show that you don't have experience in this area. |
wolfgangmo |
Aug-28-11 11:28 AM |
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So they Send the Gym Teacher Off to Get the State-Mandated Training |
AndyTiedye |
Aug-29-11 01:08 PM |
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Tossing baby with the bathwater? |
wolfgangmo |
Aug-30-11 03:25 AM |
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I Totally Agree With You on Dancing BTW |
AndyTiedye |
Aug-29-11 12:41 PM |
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Schools throw the book at you for fighting back |
bamboo harvester |
Aug-27-11 12:55 AM |
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He called me a bad name, and was invading my personal space, so I stabbed him with a pencil? |
Electric Monk |
Aug-27-11 12:59 AM |
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Because zero tolerance for bullies and others who use violence... |
Ozymanithrax |
Aug-27-11 01:06 AM |
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SIIIIIIIIGGGGHHH . . . |
HughBeaumont |
Aug-27-11 01:07 AM |
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If that is the approach you want to take then that is fine for you |
bluestateguy |
Aug-27-11 01:20 AM |
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Yeah. |
HughBeaumont |
Aug-27-11 01:28 AM |
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Worked for me. |
The Doctor. |
Aug-27-11 01:16 AM |
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Schools should be just like Lord of the Flies |
Taitertots |
Aug-27-11 09:02 AM |
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My first day of HS school there was a boy bullying the girl sitting in front of him about having sex |
NNN0LHI |
Aug-27-11 09:16 AM |
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That'll teach. Of course, if I did the same thing, that'd be an instant trip to juvie. |
HughBeaumont |
Aug-27-11 11:39 AM |
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Many boys will step up to defend a girl being bullied |
bluestateguy |
Aug-27-11 02:59 PM |
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Didn't even realize what was going on until I was being interviewed about what I seen happen |
NNN0LHI |
Aug-29-11 05:16 PM |
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Self Defense training is the way to go |
Joey Liberal |
Aug-27-11 09:23 AM |
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Okay. |
LWolf |
Aug-27-11 10:44 AM |
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Or, how about just getting rid of the problem altogether and say on day one: |
HughBeaumont |
Aug-27-11 11:54 AM |
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Would you have a student suspended who defends himself after being violently attacked? |
bluestateguy |
Aug-27-11 02:44 PM |
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The mistake most parents make is in not calling the cops. |
wolfgangmo |
Aug-27-11 04:38 PM |
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Your cues fall short. |
LWolf |
Aug-28-11 09:23 AM |
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Most of your rebuttal seems to be accommodating . . . |
HughBeaumont |
Aug-28-11 01:13 PM |
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No. My rebuttals are about the law. |
LWolf |
Aug-28-11 07:19 PM |
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If a crime is committed BY CHOICE, a law is broken. What about assault or sexual harassment? |
HughBeaumont |
Aug-28-11 07:59 PM |
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The system is bound by laws. |
LWolf |
Aug-28-11 08:51 PM |
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there's no one-size-fits-all solution |
fishwax |
Aug-27-11 11:53 AM |
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I will definitely be teaching my kids to fight back if they are physically attacked. |
krabigirl |
Aug-27-11 12:02 PM |
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Sometimes the victim fighting back will get in trouble |
tabbycat31 |
Aug-27-11 12:10 PM |
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And that needs to stop |
bluestateguy |
Aug-27-11 03:04 PM |
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With respect... |
SteveM |
Aug-27-11 04:13 PM |
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I see your point. Schools have enabled bullies over the last 30-40 yrs... |
SteveM |
Aug-27-11 04:12 PM |
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Principals used to have balls. |
wolfgangmo |
Aug-27-11 04:40 PM |
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Personal defense is a survival skill and is equal parts mental preparation and skills. |
davsand |
Aug-27-11 01:11 PM |
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The only reason I was not expelled, I suspect, |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-27-11 01:14 PM |
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If my autistic child even could learn self-defense, |
Book Lover |
Aug-27-11 01:21 PM |
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I never said it would work for everybody |
bluestateguy |
Aug-27-11 02:36 PM |
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Okay, what about kids with disabilities? |
mentalsolstice |
Aug-27-11 01:29 PM |
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If said disability prevents him or her from self-defense then the above OP is not for those kids |
bluestateguy |
Aug-27-11 02:50 PM |
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Many of us victims of bullying were PUNISHED for defending ourselves. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-27-11 01:47 PM |
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Indeed |
bluestateguy |
Aug-27-11 03:17 PM |
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That's ve-e-e-l-ly interesting und ovuh zee top. But true. nt |
SteveM |
Aug-27-11 04:21 PM |
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Nail. Head. Hit. It's the attitude that self-defense is just more violence... |
SteveM |
Aug-27-11 04:19 PM |
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My son was punished in middle school for defending a classmate from bullying. |
AtomicKitten |
Aug-27-11 02:04 PM |
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A friend of mine was suspended in middle school for standing up to his bully |
bluestateguy |
Aug-27-11 02:46 PM |
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Good For Them |
NashVegas |
Aug-27-11 02:49 PM |
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Most kids have an inherent sense of what's right and what's wrong. |
AtomicKitten |
Aug-27-11 02:54 PM |
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Better Have Witnesses / Cameras |
NashVegas |
Aug-27-11 02:48 PM |
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Yes, it should. Unfortunately, too many feel that protecting one's self is a bad thing. |
cleanhippie |
Aug-27-11 02:51 PM |
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It is a victim mentality that unfortunately many on the Left seem to embrace |
bluestateguy |
Aug-27-11 02:57 PM |
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No it shouldn't. For the following reasons. |
JVS |
Aug-27-11 03:01 PM |
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Would you have a student suspended who defends himself after being violently attacked? |
bluestateguy |
Aug-27-11 03:09 PM |
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If I considered the response disproportionate, yes. |
JVS |
Aug-27-11 03:54 PM |
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The person assaulting should expact a little disproportionality. nt |
SteveM |
Aug-27-11 04:24 PM |
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So, where do you draw the line? How badly am I allowed to fuck up someone who I think is picking... |
JVS |
Aug-27-11 04:27 PM |
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Til the ASSAULTER stops. It's called self-defense for a reason. nt |
SteveM |
Aug-27-11 04:30 PM |
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Quit dodging the question. How extreme am I allowed to be. Can I shoot or stab a kid who punches me? |
JVS |
Aug-27-11 04:32 PM |
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You have your answer, and it was clear: |
SteveM |
Aug-27-11 04:46 PM |
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You have your answer, and it was clear: |
SteveM |
Aug-27-11 04:50 PM |
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Absolutely |
War Horse |
Aug-27-11 03:07 PM |
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Aug-27-11 04:21 PM |
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Yes, our schools should prepare children for prison. |
The Midway Rebel |
Aug-27-11 04:33 PM |
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LOL! |
JVS |
Aug-27-11 04:52 PM |
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I wish that my parents had done that |
AnnieBW |
Aug-27-11 07:53 PM |
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Nowadays the victim will often be expelled or suspended, too, even if he doesn't fight |
tblue37 |
Aug-27-11 08:23 PM |
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Many school administrators and teachers are actually bullies themselves, |
chrisa |
Aug-27-11 08:25 PM |
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Adult supervision should be promoted as a remedy against school bullying |
DBoon |
Aug-27-11 09:26 PM |
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"Adult Supervision" often punishes the victim worse than the bully. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-27-11 09:47 PM |
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Adults are corrupt and value power over justice |
DBoon |
Aug-27-11 10:15 PM |
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Looking back, there is NO WAY teachers didn't know I was being bullied. |
Romulox |
Aug-28-11 10:13 AM |
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Damn straight. Mine were. |
HughBeaumont |
Aug-28-11 01:14 PM |
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My 3rd Grade teacher was a verbal bully. She was a vicious b*tch. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-28-11 10:18 PM |
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Yes |
dipsydoodle |
Aug-28-11 04:14 AM |
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I was taught to defend myself and that's what I taught my kids, too - |
lynne |
Aug-28-11 10:26 AM |
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in practice i fought back and it worked, but those were different times |
pitohui |
Aug-28-11 04:41 PM |
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People are always suggesting this "solution", but ... |
surrealAmerican |
Aug-28-11 08:50 PM |
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this is a good post |
pitohui |
Aug-28-11 10:20 PM |
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Bullies often have lackeys in tow; bullied kids to not. Defending oneself is difficult |
LeftinOH |
Aug-29-11 12:19 PM |
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It's not the obligation of the bullied to stop bullying. |
LeftyMom |
Aug-29-11 04:28 PM |
#138 |
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