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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 01:16 AM
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19. Worked for me.
After I fucked a couple of them up, it was done.

Would I be proficient in Hun-Gar, Kodokan Judo, and a multitude of weapons and other proficiencies had I not been bullied?

Actually, I probably would. I just wouldn't have had the same (and imperative) impetus that I did.

Boy, do I have stories though.
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  -Self-defense should be promoted as a remedy against school bullying bluestateguy  Aug-26-11 11:38 PM   #0 
  - I agree. Sometimes, nothing else works except hitting the bully.  backscatter712   Aug-26-11 11:40 PM   #1 
  - I am still a little person. I cannot fight.  Manifestor_of_Light   Aug-26-11 11:44 PM   #2 
  - We had a guy that was 5'3 in high school too  bluestateguy   Aug-26-11 11:46 PM   #3 
  - there's one advantage to being short and being bullied.  provis99   Aug-27-11 12:38 AM   #12 
  - Mister Myagi wasn't all that big, now, was he?  MADem   Aug-27-11 12:53 AM   #14 
  - You missed out on some things.  The Doctor.   Aug-27-11 01:28 AM   #21 
  - Wow! I'm impressed.  Manifestor_of_Light   Aug-28-11 03:57 AM   #104 
     - +100.  HughBeaumont   Aug-28-11 01:31 PM   #114 
  - I understand, but many martial arts disciplines  _ed_   Aug-27-11 08:52 AM   #25 
  - My son took Martial Arts, at tournaments he took down a kid nearly twice his size, at school he  NotThisTime   Aug-27-11 11:13 PM   #102 
  - You don't have to be huge and muscular to defend yourself.  Odin2005   Aug-27-11 01:50 PM   #44 
  - At 5'3"  Dorian Gray   Aug-27-11 02:45 PM   #48 
  - I'm 5'3". I've taken on 6'1" attacker; broken his arm, shattered his cheekbone  REP   Aug-28-11 11:33 AM   #110 
  - Does being small prevent you from kicking a guy in the testicles?  Lucian   Aug-28-11 11:35 AM   #111 
  - have you ever kicked a guy in the testicles?  pitohui   Aug-28-11 04:46 PM   #119 
     - Oh c'mon.  Lucian   Aug-28-11 05:17 PM   #120 
     - you've kicked "many" men in the testicles? really?  pitohui   Aug-28-11 10:16 PM   #125 
        - Most of this is bullshit.  Drahthaardogs   Aug-28-11 10:33 PM   #128 
        - I know of many guys who've been kicked in the testicles...  Lucian   Aug-28-11 10:51 PM   #130 
           - I Wasn't  AndyTiedye   Aug-29-11 12:57 PM   #134 
        - ...  Lucian   Aug-28-11 10:49 PM   #129 
     - Thank you.  raccoon   Aug-29-11 01:06 PM   #135 
  - Total, complete, BUNK. I'm 5'3" and 135 lbs. I FEAR NOBODY.  NM Independent   Aug-28-11 04:12 PM   #115 
  - Self defense?  The Midway Rebel   Aug-26-11 11:50 PM   #4 
  - We could do that or we could just give them  ohheckyeah   Aug-27-11 12:01 AM   #6 
  - Well thats just idiotic.  cleanhippie   Aug-27-11 02:50 PM   #53 
     - Look at the post I was responding to.  ohheckyeah   Aug-27-11 03:04 PM   #61 
     - Ahh, sorry, my bad.  cleanhippie   Aug-27-11 03:36 PM   #66 
        - no problem  ohheckyeah   Aug-27-11 03:41 PM   #67 
           - I suppose I could have too. nt  The Midway Rebel   Aug-27-11 04:25 PM   #80 
              - LOL....  ohheckyeah   Aug-27-11 07:55 PM   #95 
     - Don't worry. He was just trying to hijack. nt  SteveM   Aug-27-11 03:58 PM   #69 
  - Do you want them to be bullied or fight back?  Joey Liberal   Aug-27-11 09:46 AM   #29 
  - It'd be nice if they didn't get in TROUBLE for fighting back.  HughBeaumont   Aug-27-11 11:56 AM   #34 
  - Yep. Schools nowadays employ "zero tolerance." Means nothing changes. nt  SteveM   Aug-27-11 04:02 PM   #71 
  - Hell, it'd be nice if they didn't get in trouble for being assaulted in the first place  Posteritatis   Aug-28-11 04:27 PM   #116 
  - Neither.  The Midway Rebel   Aug-27-11 12:01 PM   #35 
     - Please explain to us non-violent methods of stopping an assault in progress. (nt)  Posteritatis   Aug-28-11 04:36 PM   #117 
        - Step one.  The Midway Rebel   Aug-29-11 12:01 PM   #131 
           - So you're hopelessly naive and have never been jumped. Okay then. (nt)  Posteritatis   Aug-29-11 04:05 PM   #137 
              - Wrong.  The Midway Rebel   Aug-29-11 04:34 PM   #139 
  - A little "gouging" and "crushing" doesn't sound bad. Might end the bullying.nt  SteveM   Aug-27-11 04:00 PM   #70 
  - Yeah.  The Midway Rebel   Aug-27-11 04:22 PM   #77 
     - Let 'em walk in. And who would be the one sued? The school or the parent?  SteveM   Aug-27-11 04:25 PM   #79 
        - I suppose it would depend on the case.  The Midway Rebel   Aug-27-11 04:29 PM   #83 
           - And the cases don't usually involve stretching:  SteveM   Aug-27-11 04:39 PM   #88 
              - Care to answer my question?  The Midway Rebel   Aug-27-11 07:17 PM   #93 
  - Wrist locks.  aikoaiko   Aug-27-11 08:32 PM   #98 
  - Certainly  texshelters   Aug-26-11 11:55 PM   #5 
  - Sometimes all you have to do is to be  ohheckyeah   Aug-27-11 12:04 AM   #7 
  - But sometims the person bullied is hopelessly smaller than the other  JDPriestly   Aug-27-11 12:16 AM   #8 
  - Well you know  Skip_In_Boulder   Aug-27-11 12:29 AM   #11 
     - Bruce Lee also had enhanced fighting skill and was fast.  HughBeaumont   Aug-27-11 01:30 AM   #23 
        - Sure, but he wasn't born with them  Skip_In_Boulder   Aug-27-11 01:10 PM   #38 
  - I was told to hit back and I will instill the same wisdom.  Modern_Matthew   Aug-27-11 12:20 AM   #9 
  - Fighting back means that the school has failed in its duty to protect the non-bully  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-27-11 12:29 AM   #10 
  - One of the reasons zero-tolerance doesn't make sense. Adults can not be omnipresent and omnipotent.  fishbulb703   Aug-27-11 02:51 PM   #54 
  - The sad thing is, though, that the bullies will also learn the techniques.  MADem   Aug-27-11 12:47 AM   #13 
  - The Bullies are More Athletic, so They Would Learn the Techniques Much Faster  AndyTiedye   Aug-27-11 03:59 AM   #24 
  - Bullies have been around a looooooong time. They are not big adapters.  TheKentuckian   Aug-27-11 03:08 PM   #63 
  - I disagree.  wolfgangmo   Aug-27-11 04:28 PM   #82 
     - Why Would it Be Any Different From Any Other School Athletic Activity?  AndyTiedye   Aug-28-11 03:25 AM   #103 
        - My thoughts are below. I think your questions show that you don't have experience in this area.  wolfgangmo   Aug-28-11 11:28 AM   #109 
           - So they Send the Gym Teacher Off to Get the State-Mandated Training  AndyTiedye   Aug-29-11 01:08 PM   #136 
              - Tossing baby with the bathwater?  wolfgangmo   Aug-30-11 03:25 AM   #141 
  - I Totally Agree With You on Dancing BTW  AndyTiedye   Aug-29-11 12:41 PM   #133 
  - Schools throw the book at you for fighting back  bamboo harvester   Aug-27-11 12:55 AM   #15 
  - He called me a bad name, and was invading my personal space, so I stabbed him with a pencil?  Electric Monk   Aug-27-11 12:59 AM   #16 
  - Because zero tolerance for bullies and others who use violence...  Ozymanithrax   Aug-27-11 01:06 AM   #17 
  - SIIIIIIIIGGGGHHH . . .  HughBeaumont   Aug-27-11 01:07 AM   #18 
  - If that is the approach you want to take then that is fine for you  bluestateguy   Aug-27-11 01:20 AM   #20 
     - Yeah.  HughBeaumont   Aug-27-11 01:28 AM   #22 
  - Worked for me.  The Doctor.   Aug-27-11 01:16 AM   #19 
  - Schools should be just like Lord of the Flies  Taitertots   Aug-27-11 09:02 AM   #26 
  - My first day of HS school there was a boy bullying the girl sitting in front of him about having sex  NNN0LHI   Aug-27-11 09:16 AM   #27 
  - That'll teach. Of course, if I did the same thing, that'd be an instant trip to juvie.  HughBeaumont   Aug-27-11 11:39 AM   #31 
  - Many boys will step up to defend a girl being bullied  bluestateguy   Aug-27-11 02:59 PM   #58 
     - Didn't even realize what was going on until I was being interviewed about what I seen happen  NNN0LHI   Aug-29-11 05:16 PM   #140 
  - Self Defense training is the way to go  Joey Liberal   Aug-27-11 09:23 AM   #28 
  - Okay.  LWolf   Aug-27-11 10:44 AM   #30 
  - Or, how about just getting rid of the problem altogether and say on day one:  HughBeaumont   Aug-27-11 11:54 AM   #33 
     - Would you have a student suspended who defends himself after being violently attacked?  bluestateguy   Aug-27-11 02:44 PM   #47 
     - The mistake most parents make is in not calling the cops.  wolfgangmo   Aug-27-11 04:38 PM   #87 
     - Your cues fall short.  LWolf   Aug-28-11 09:23 AM   #106 
        - Most of your rebuttal seems to be accommodating . . .  HughBeaumont   Aug-28-11 01:13 PM   #112 
           - No. My rebuttals are about the law.  LWolf   Aug-28-11 07:19 PM   #121 
              - If a crime is committed BY CHOICE, a law is broken. What about assault or sexual harassment?  HughBeaumont   Aug-28-11 07:59 PM   #122 
                 - The system is bound by laws.  LWolf   Aug-28-11 08:51 PM   #124 
  - there's no one-size-fits-all solution  fishwax   Aug-27-11 11:53 AM   #32 
  - I will definitely be teaching my kids to fight back if they are physically attacked.  krabigirl   Aug-27-11 12:02 PM   #36 
  - Sometimes the victim fighting back will get in trouble  tabbycat31   Aug-27-11 12:10 PM   #37 
  - And that needs to stop  bluestateguy   Aug-27-11 03:04 PM   #60 
  - With respect...  SteveM   Aug-27-11 04:13 PM   #73 
  - I see your point. Schools have enabled bullies over the last 30-40 yrs...  SteveM   Aug-27-11 04:12 PM   #72 
     - Principals used to have balls.  wolfgangmo   Aug-27-11 04:40 PM   #89 
  - Personal defense is a survival skill and is equal parts mental preparation and skills.  davsand   Aug-27-11 01:11 PM   #39 
  - The only reason I was not expelled, I suspect,  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-27-11 01:14 PM   #40 
  - If my autistic child even could learn self-defense,  Book Lover   Aug-27-11 01:21 PM   #41 
  - I never said it would work for everybody  bluestateguy   Aug-27-11 02:36 PM   #46 
  - Okay, what about kids with disabilities?  mentalsolstice   Aug-27-11 01:29 PM   #42 
  - If said disability prevents him or her from self-defense then the above OP is not for those kids  bluestateguy   Aug-27-11 02:50 PM   #52 
  - Many of us victims of bullying were PUNISHED for defending ourselves.  Odin2005   Aug-27-11 01:47 PM   #43 
  - Indeed  bluestateguy   Aug-27-11 03:17 PM   #65 
  - That's ve-e-e-l-ly interesting und ovuh zee top. But true. nt  SteveM   Aug-27-11 04:21 PM   #75 
  - Nail. Head. Hit. It's the attitude that self-defense is just more violence...  SteveM   Aug-27-11 04:19 PM   #74 
  - My son was punished in middle school for defending a classmate from bullying.  AtomicKitten   Aug-27-11 02:04 PM   #45 
  - A friend of mine was suspended in middle school for standing up to his bully  bluestateguy   Aug-27-11 02:46 PM   #49 
     - Good For Them  NashVegas   Aug-27-11 02:49 PM   #51 
     - Most kids have an inherent sense of what's right and what's wrong.  AtomicKitten   Aug-27-11 02:54 PM   #56 
  - Better Have Witnesses / Cameras  NashVegas   Aug-27-11 02:48 PM   #50 
  - Yes, it should. Unfortunately, too many feel that protecting one's self is a bad thing.  cleanhippie   Aug-27-11 02:51 PM   #55 
  - It is a victim mentality that unfortunately many on the Left seem to embrace  bluestateguy   Aug-27-11 02:57 PM   #57 
  - No it shouldn't. For the following reasons.  JVS   Aug-27-11 03:01 PM   #59 
  - Would you have a student suspended who defends himself after being violently attacked?  bluestateguy   Aug-27-11 03:09 PM   #64 
     - If I considered the response disproportionate, yes.  JVS   Aug-27-11 03:54 PM   #68 
        - The person assaulting should expact a little disproportionality. nt  SteveM   Aug-27-11 04:24 PM   #78 
           - So, where do you draw the line? How badly am I allowed to fuck up someone who I think is picking...  JVS   Aug-27-11 04:27 PM   #81 
              - Til the ASSAULTER stops. It's called self-defense for a reason. nt  SteveM   Aug-27-11 04:30 PM   #84 
                 - Quit dodging the question. How extreme am I allowed to be. Can I shoot or stab a kid who punches me?  JVS   Aug-27-11 04:32 PM   #85 
                    - You have your answer, and it was clear:  SteveM   Aug-27-11 04:46 PM   #90 
                    - You have your answer, and it was clear:  SteveM   Aug-27-11 04:50 PM   #91 
  - Absolutely  War Horse   Aug-27-11 03:07 PM   #62 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-27-11 04:21 PM   #76 
  - Yes, our schools should prepare children for prison.  The Midway Rebel   Aug-27-11 04:33 PM   #86 
  - LOL!  JVS   Aug-27-11 04:52 PM   #92 
  - I wish that my parents had done that  AnnieBW   Aug-27-11 07:53 PM   #94 
  - Nowadays the victim will often be expelled or suspended, too, even if he doesn't fight  tblue37   Aug-27-11 08:23 PM   #96 
  - Many school administrators and teachers are actually bullies themselves,  chrisa   Aug-27-11 08:25 PM   #97 
  - Adult supervision should be promoted as a remedy against school bullying  DBoon   Aug-27-11 09:26 PM   #99 
  - "Adult Supervision" often punishes the victim worse than the bully.  Odin2005   Aug-27-11 09:47 PM   #100 
  - Adults are corrupt and value power over justice  DBoon   Aug-27-11 10:15 PM   #101 
  - Looking back, there is NO WAY teachers didn't know I was being bullied.  Romulox   Aug-28-11 10:13 AM   #107 
     - Damn straight. Mine were.  HughBeaumont   Aug-28-11 01:14 PM   #113 
     - My 3rd Grade teacher was a verbal bully. She was a vicious b*tch.  Odin2005   Aug-28-11 10:18 PM   #126 
  - Yes  dipsydoodle   Aug-28-11 04:14 AM   #105 
  - I was taught to defend myself and that's what I taught my kids, too -  lynne   Aug-28-11 10:26 AM   #108 
  - in practice i fought back and it worked, but those were different times  pitohui   Aug-28-11 04:41 PM   #118 
  - People are always suggesting this "solution", but ...  surrealAmerican   Aug-28-11 08:50 PM   #123 
  - this is a good post  pitohui   Aug-28-11 10:20 PM   #127 
  - Bullies often have lackeys in tow; bullied kids to not. Defending oneself is difficult  LeftinOH   Aug-29-11 12:19 PM   #132 
  - It's not the obligation of the bullied to stop bullying.  LeftyMom   Aug-29-11 04:28 PM   #138 

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