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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 02:46 AM
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28. I took care of one 26 year old autistic adult in the early nineties.
His home was among the most toxic home I have ever been in.

His parents had huge decks that surrounded their home on all sides. The dad religiously sprayed the crap out of the decks at least twice a year. He used such strong and toxic crap that even my husband was knocked to his knees when he came to visit A. and me. (Mark is a husky guy and a lot of times, the things that bother me, chemically speaking, don't affect him)

I found out that so many of the products that were on the market from the fifties on, contained lead, arsenic, copper and other really nasty crap. How a fetus would maintain its health if its mothers was ingesting that stuff I don't know. (The lead has been removed from these products nowadays, but back when Andrew was in utero, lead would have been in the mix.)

I also found the conclusion that the panel that the OP is talking about to be suspect. A peer reviewed study, in this day and age means nothing, and this panel of scientists basically said that an "average" based on the many peer reviewed studies they examined supports the notion that the vaccine process doesn't cause the autism.

Since industry controls most of the research labs, and financially supports most of the scientists now writing these peer reviewed studies, I don't find this proof of anything.

If this process of surveying the peer reviewed studies available had been the process by which the state of California determined the safety or the heavy duty risk and toxicity of MTBE, believe me, the state of California would still be allowing MTBE. There were dozens more studies from industry saying MTBE was safe, while there was only one study showing how toxic it was. But that one study was independent of industry, while the many studies were bought and paid for by industry.

If this is what passes for science, we are totally screwn.





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  -Vaccine Cleared Again as Autism Culprit La Lioness Priyanka  Aug-25-11 08:36 PM   #0 
  - Hi Dahlink!  xchrom   Aug-25-11 08:45 PM   #1 
  - ...  La Lioness Priyanka   Aug-26-11 10:23 AM   #12 
  - Well it is good news...  Kalidurga   Aug-25-11 08:46 PM   #2 
  - yup.  La Lioness Priyanka   Aug-26-11 10:25 AM   #14 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-26-11 10:29 AM   #16 
     - part of new cases, is that there was a never a diagnoses before  La Lioness Priyanka   Aug-26-11 10:51 AM   #20 
  - kick  xchrom   Aug-26-11 05:00 AM   #3 
  - Recommend...nt  SidDithers   Aug-26-11 06:31 AM   #4 
  - K&R  csziggy   Aug-26-11 06:39 AM   #5 
  - Note the idiot alarmist statement at the end  Bragi   Aug-26-11 06:48 AM   #6 
  - k&r n/t  tammywammy   Aug-26-11 06:57 AM   #7 
  - the first trigger....  seabeyond   Aug-26-11 07:06 AM   #8 
  - I have to wonder...  Dulcinea   Aug-26-11 07:57 AM   #9 
  - I took care of one 26 year old autistic adult in the early nineties.  truedelphi   Aug-27-11 02:46 AM   #28 
  - The anti-vax lunatics will never learn, they are religious "true believers".  Odin2005   Aug-26-11 08:42 AM   #10 
  - being the outside of the box thinker that you are, with science background, correct?  seabeyond   Aug-26-11 08:47 AM   #11 
  - The article says no such thing  Spider Jerusalem   Aug-27-11 11:38 AM   #35 
  - agreed. nt  La Lioness Priyanka   Aug-26-11 10:24 AM   #13 
  - Correct  Ohio Joe   Aug-26-11 10:31 AM   #17 
  - if you can believe that evolution is bs, the being anti-vax is kinda easy  dembotoz   Aug-26-11 01:52 PM   #23 
  - No most of us are not "anti-vaxers" We just want the process cleaned up  truedelphi   Aug-27-11 03:37 PM   #58 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-26-11 10:28 AM   #15 
  - I am dx'd Aspergers.  hifiguy   Aug-26-11 10:33 AM   #18 
  - But we're desperate for someone to blame!  Capitalocracy   Aug-28-11 10:37 AM   #63 
  - k and r  Hassin Bin Sober   Aug-26-11 10:35 AM   #19 
  - They can do all the studies they want, but they'll never convince the people that already believe it  JoeyT   Aug-26-11 11:39 AM   #21 
  - yup.  La Lioness Priyanka   Aug-26-11 01:42 PM   #22 
  - Correct!  hifiguy   Aug-26-11 02:08 PM   #25 
     - I am 25, I was misdiagnosed as ADHD until I was 15.  Odin2005   Aug-26-11 09:18 PM   #26 
  - Perfect timing! I'm hungry for a great big bowl of  KamaAina   Aug-26-11 01:53 PM   #24 
  - Dude.  Ikonoklast   Aug-27-11 02:36 PM   #49 
  - So the ten thousand people who watched a shot transform their kids are wrong  truedelphi   Aug-27-11 02:33 AM   #27 
  - yes, casual observance and correlations are frequently wrong  La Lioness Priyanka   Aug-27-11 10:33 AM   #30 
  - it states first trigger. nothing casual about the observation. wasnt there, triggered  seabeyond   Aug-27-11 10:38 AM   #31 
  - yes, and we are talking about study after study dispelling this rumor  La Lioness Priyanka   Aug-27-11 10:41 AM   #32 
     - i dont get this, the scorn and snark. everyone on here is purposely ignoring the paragraph  seabeyond   Aug-27-11 10:45 AM   #33 
     - metabolic problems are not autism spectrum  La Lioness Priyanka   Aug-27-11 11:10 AM   #34 
        - i don't have a bone in this fight. you dont know my position. you dont know my experience.  seabeyond   Aug-27-11 02:10 PM   #44 
           - no, our position is not limiting. its following scientific protocol  La Lioness Priyanka   Aug-27-11 02:16 PM   #45 
              - you are wrong. and there is plenty out there to suggest otherwise  seabeyond   Aug-27-11 02:19 PM   #46 
                 - yeah and there are people who dont believe hiv causes aids  La Lioness Priyanka   Aug-27-11 02:33 PM   #48 
                    - there you go again  seabeyond   Aug-27-11 02:47 PM   #50 
                       - i refuse to let people's random commentary influence my belief system  La Lioness Priyanka   Aug-27-11 03:09 PM   #51 
                          - well, in the case of pooping rainbows...  Capitalocracy   Aug-27-11 04:26 PM   #60 
                             - yup. also if people followed their advice, they should see what havoc  La Lioness Priyanka   Aug-27-11 06:53 PM   #61 
     - Don't call him a scientist.  Capitalocracy   Aug-27-11 12:10 PM   #39 
     - he did not make millions. He made enough money to help himself fund  truedelphi   Aug-27-11 03:30 PM   #56 
        - wakefield has been stripped of his medical license, because his study  La Lioness Priyanka   Aug-27-11 03:33 PM   #57 
        - And scientist Marc Lappe was black listed from his positon as a researcher  truedelphi   Aug-27-11 08:18 PM   #62 
        - Yeah, the guy's a real altruist.  Capitalocracy   Aug-27-11 04:20 PM   #59 
     - Wakefield is a liar and a fraud, not a "scientist".  Odin2005   Aug-27-11 02:07 PM   #43 
     - Before science was corrupted by the establishment "industry"  truedelphi   Aug-27-11 03:15 PM   #52 
        - the guy falsified his data  La Lioness Priyanka   Aug-27-11 03:19 PM   #53 
  - Please read my response on this topic, number nine.  truedelphi   Aug-27-11 03:19 PM   #54 
     - the guy who started this falsified his data  La Lioness Priyanka   Aug-27-11 03:25 PM   #55 
  - Correlation does not imply causation  Spider Jerusalem   Aug-27-11 11:47 AM   #36 
  - I'm one of them.  AngryOldDem   Aug-27-11 12:05 PM   #37 
  - vaccines have very small profit margins and there is nothing to suggest  La Lioness Priyanka   Aug-27-11 01:07 PM   #40 
  - Either wrong or liars.  AngkorWot   Aug-27-11 01:19 PM   #41 
  - Our memories can fool us, new knowledge can contaminate previous memories.  Odin2005   Aug-27-11 02:04 PM   #42 
  - Study after  Dorian Gray   Aug-27-11 07:12 AM   #29 
  - Here's the study I want to see  Capitalocracy   Aug-27-11 12:07 PM   #38 
     - +1  TransitJohn   Aug-27-11 02:20 PM   #47 
 

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