truedelphi
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Sat Aug-27-11 02:46 AM
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| 28. I took care of one 26 year old autistic adult in the early nineties. |
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His home was among the most toxic home I have ever been in.
His parents had huge decks that surrounded their home on all sides. The dad religiously sprayed the crap out of the decks at least twice a year. He used such strong and toxic crap that even my husband was knocked to his knees when he came to visit A. and me. (Mark is a husky guy and a lot of times, the things that bother me, chemically speaking, don't affect him)
I found out that so many of the products that were on the market from the fifties on, contained lead, arsenic, copper and other really nasty crap. How a fetus would maintain its health if its mothers was ingesting that stuff I don't know. (The lead has been removed from these products nowadays, but back when Andrew was in utero, lead would have been in the mix.)
I also found the conclusion that the panel that the OP is talking about to be suspect. A peer reviewed study, in this day and age means nothing, and this panel of scientists basically said that an "average" based on the many peer reviewed studies they examined supports the notion that the vaccine process doesn't cause the autism.
Since industry controls most of the research labs, and financially supports most of the scientists now writing these peer reviewed studies, I don't find this proof of anything.
If this process of surveying the peer reviewed studies available had been the process by which the state of California determined the safety or the heavy duty risk and toxicity of MTBE, believe me, the state of California would still be allowing MTBE. There were dozens more studies from industry saying MTBE was safe, while there was only one study showing how toxic it was. But that one study was independent of industry, while the many studies were bought and paid for by industry.
If this is what passes for science, we are totally screwn.
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| -Vaccine Cleared Again as Autism Culprit |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Aug-25-11 08:36 PM |
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Hi Dahlink! |
xchrom |
Aug-25-11 08:45 PM |
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... |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Aug-26-11 10:23 AM |
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Well it is good news... |
Kalidurga |
Aug-25-11 08:46 PM |
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yup. |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Aug-26-11 10:25 AM |
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Aug-26-11 10:29 AM |
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part of new cases, is that there was a never a diagnoses before |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Aug-26-11 10:51 AM |
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kick |
xchrom |
Aug-26-11 05:00 AM |
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Recommend...nt |
SidDithers |
Aug-26-11 06:31 AM |
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K&R |
csziggy |
Aug-26-11 06:39 AM |
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Note the idiot alarmist statement at the end |
Bragi |
Aug-26-11 06:48 AM |
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k&r n/t |
tammywammy |
Aug-26-11 06:57 AM |
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the first trigger.... |
seabeyond |
Aug-26-11 07:06 AM |
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I have to wonder... |
Dulcinea |
Aug-26-11 07:57 AM |
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I took care of one 26 year old autistic adult in the early nineties. |
truedelphi |
Aug-27-11 02:46 AM |
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The anti-vax lunatics will never learn, they are religious "true believers". |
Odin2005 |
Aug-26-11 08:42 AM |
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being the outside of the box thinker that you are, with science background, correct? |
seabeyond |
Aug-26-11 08:47 AM |
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The article says no such thing |
Spider Jerusalem |
Aug-27-11 11:38 AM |
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agreed. nt |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Aug-26-11 10:24 AM |
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Correct |
Ohio Joe |
Aug-26-11 10:31 AM |
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if you can believe that evolution is bs, the being anti-vax is kinda easy |
dembotoz |
Aug-26-11 01:52 PM |
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No most of us are not "anti-vaxers" We just want the process cleaned up |
truedelphi |
Aug-27-11 03:37 PM |
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Aug-26-11 10:28 AM |
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I am dx'd Aspergers. |
hifiguy |
Aug-26-11 10:33 AM |
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But we're desperate for someone to blame! |
Capitalocracy |
Aug-28-11 10:37 AM |
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k and r |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Aug-26-11 10:35 AM |
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They can do all the studies they want, but they'll never convince the people that already believe it |
JoeyT |
Aug-26-11 11:39 AM |
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yup. |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Aug-26-11 01:42 PM |
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Correct! |
hifiguy |
Aug-26-11 02:08 PM |
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I am 25, I was misdiagnosed as ADHD until I was 15. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-26-11 09:18 PM |
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Perfect timing! I'm hungry for a great big bowl of |
KamaAina |
Aug-26-11 01:53 PM |
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Dude. |
Ikonoklast |
Aug-27-11 02:36 PM |
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So the ten thousand people who watched a shot transform their kids are wrong |
truedelphi |
Aug-27-11 02:33 AM |
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yes, casual observance and correlations are frequently wrong |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Aug-27-11 10:33 AM |
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it states first trigger. nothing casual about the observation. wasnt there, triggered |
seabeyond |
Aug-27-11 10:38 AM |
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yes, and we are talking about study after study dispelling this rumor |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Aug-27-11 10:41 AM |
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i dont get this, the scorn and snark. everyone on here is purposely ignoring the paragraph |
seabeyond |
Aug-27-11 10:45 AM |
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metabolic problems are not autism spectrum |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Aug-27-11 11:10 AM |
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i don't have a bone in this fight. you dont know my position. you dont know my experience. |
seabeyond |
Aug-27-11 02:10 PM |
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no, our position is not limiting. its following scientific protocol |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Aug-27-11 02:16 PM |
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you are wrong. and there is plenty out there to suggest otherwise |
seabeyond |
Aug-27-11 02:19 PM |
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yeah and there are people who dont believe hiv causes aids |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Aug-27-11 02:33 PM |
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there you go again |
seabeyond |
Aug-27-11 02:47 PM |
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i refuse to let people's random commentary influence my belief system |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Aug-27-11 03:09 PM |
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well, in the case of pooping rainbows... |
Capitalocracy |
Aug-27-11 04:26 PM |
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yup. also if people followed their advice, they should see what havoc |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Aug-27-11 06:53 PM |
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Don't call him a scientist. |
Capitalocracy |
Aug-27-11 12:10 PM |
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he did not make millions. He made enough money to help himself fund |
truedelphi |
Aug-27-11 03:30 PM |
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wakefield has been stripped of his medical license, because his study |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Aug-27-11 03:33 PM |
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And scientist Marc Lappe was black listed from his positon as a researcher |
truedelphi |
Aug-27-11 08:18 PM |
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Yeah, the guy's a real altruist. |
Capitalocracy |
Aug-27-11 04:20 PM |
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Wakefield is a liar and a fraud, not a "scientist". |
Odin2005 |
Aug-27-11 02:07 PM |
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Before science was corrupted by the establishment "industry" |
truedelphi |
Aug-27-11 03:15 PM |
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the guy falsified his data |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Aug-27-11 03:19 PM |
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Please read my response on this topic, number nine. |
truedelphi |
Aug-27-11 03:19 PM |
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the guy who started this falsified his data |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Aug-27-11 03:25 PM |
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Correlation does not imply causation |
Spider Jerusalem |
Aug-27-11 11:47 AM |
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I'm one of them. |
AngryOldDem |
Aug-27-11 12:05 PM |
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vaccines have very small profit margins and there is nothing to suggest |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Aug-27-11 01:07 PM |
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Either wrong or liars. |
AngkorWot |
Aug-27-11 01:19 PM |
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Our memories can fool us, new knowledge can contaminate previous memories. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-27-11 02:04 PM |
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Study after |
Dorian Gray |
Aug-27-11 07:12 AM |
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Here's the study I want to see |
Capitalocracy |
Aug-27-11 12:07 PM |
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+1 |
TransitJohn |
Aug-27-11 02:20 PM |
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