| 85. Labor is going to force Obama to shit or get off the pot. |
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If he wants Labors' support then he better wake up damn quick and grow a pair of balls like FDR who said I welcome their hatred. Enough with the stupid bipartisanship. He seems to be intimidated with fear of not being liked by those who hate him to the point of appeasement that is strangling the working class.
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| -I stand with labor. If the AFL-CIO does not endorse Obama in 2012 |
Robb |
Aug-25-11 04:09 PM |
#0 |
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I'm pretty sure labor will endorse they just won't put boots on the ground or |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-25-11 04:11 PM |
#1 |
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After calling Obama, effectively, a Tea Bagger, you think they'll endorse him? |
MannyGoldstein |
Aug-25-11 04:51 PM |
#21 |
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Of course they'll endorse him. |
Robb |
Aug-25-11 07:44 PM |
#53 |
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"Obama's a Teabagger, but vote for him" |
MannyGoldstein |
Aug-25-11 08:19 PM |
#69 |
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So I'll put you down for a "I'll likely" stand with labor. |
Robb |
Aug-25-11 08:21 PM |
#70 |
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Do you want an oath of fealty? |
MannyGoldstein |
Aug-25-11 09:26 PM |
#77 |
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President Obama is NOT a tea-bagger! |
trueblue2007 |
Aug-25-11 08:23 PM |
#71 |
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could have fooled me. |
roguevalley |
Aug-25-11 08:55 PM |
#75 |
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Probably all that time he spent demanding to see his own birth certificate |
JoePhilly |
Aug-26-11 12:39 PM |
#106 |
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I agree. As for the OP, I'll vote with and for Labor because I am Labor, |
SusanaMontana41 |
Aug-25-11 09:40 PM |
#79 |
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they will endorse him and they will work for him... |
WI_DEM |
Aug-25-11 04:11 PM |
#2 |
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look at the alternative |
tartan2 |
Aug-26-11 12:27 PM |
#101 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-25-11 04:12 PM |
#3 |
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What if the OP is voting with Labor, because he/she BELIEVES in, and supports labor? |
demwing |
Aug-25-11 04:18 PM |
#11 |
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scornbot lol |
SwampG8r |
Aug-26-11 10:10 AM |
#90 |
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robcon, why are you a Democrat? |
JDPriestly |
Aug-25-11 04:21 PM |
#13 |
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Conservative ones. |
Zhade |
Aug-25-11 05:26 PM |
#35 |
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so quick with the name calling |
leftyohiolib |
Aug-25-11 05:08 PM |
#24 |
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Who said the OP wasn't going to vote!? |
Rex |
Aug-25-11 05:38 PM |
#43 |
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I have no doubt they will endorse him |
LynneSin |
Aug-25-11 04:12 PM |
#4 |
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If you think this is about an endorsement or voting for him you |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-26-11 12:57 PM |
#111 |
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The AFL-CIO might. Individual unions might not. |
Brickbat |
Aug-25-11 04:14 PM |
#5 |
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The AFGE is part of the AFL-CIO |
Creideiki |
Aug-25-11 07:52 PM |
#60 |
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So you're cool with President Perry? |
KamaAina |
Aug-25-11 04:14 PM |
#6 |
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Right on cue with the scare tactics n/t |
markpkessinger |
Aug-25-11 04:40 PM |
#18 |
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I always carry more rocks after a thorough beating. nt |
sudopod |
Aug-25-11 05:21 PM |
#33 |
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isn't it disgusting? |
mod mom |
Aug-26-11 01:55 PM |
#118 |
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This is all you have? |
RetroLounge |
Aug-25-11 05:08 PM |
#23 |
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isnt it enuff |
leftyohiolib |
Aug-25-11 05:13 PM |
#26 |
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To quote the Big Dog, "I feel your pain" |
KamaAina |
Aug-25-11 05:17 PM |
#28 |
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So we drive off the cliff at 10mph instead of 90mph? |
RetroLounge |
Aug-25-11 05:22 PM |
#34 |
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If you drive off the cliff going 10, |
KamaAina |
Aug-25-11 05:32 PM |
#40 |
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If it's a cliff it won't make much difference. |
markpkessinger |
Aug-25-11 09:38 PM |
#78 |
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I find your honesty in admitting you've chosen party over principle refreshing. |
Zhade |
Aug-25-11 05:29 PM |
#38 |
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How would you propose to move the Dem party back to the left? |
KamaAina |
Aug-25-11 05:33 PM |
#41 |
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I propose punishing Dems who DON'T move back to the left, by withholding my vote. |
LooseWilly |
Aug-25-11 05:49 PM |
#49 |
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That won't do jack shit unless you come up with a positive alternative. |
Telly Savalas |
Aug-25-11 09:55 PM |
#80 |
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We simply never had the resources to do that in the confines of our system. |
Selatius |
Aug-25-11 07:56 PM |
#62 |
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enabling those moving it to the right will |
SwampG8r |
Aug-26-11 10:14 AM |
#93 |
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at least you can admit it |
SwampG8r |
Aug-26-11 10:13 AM |
#92 |
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So where's the big difference? |
blindpig |
Aug-26-11 01:32 PM |
#116 |
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All? Reality is not optional. |
treestar |
Aug-26-11 01:07 PM |
#114 |
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Reality? |
RetroLounge |
Aug-26-11 08:44 PM |
#131 |
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Laugh all you want |
treestar |
Aug-27-11 12:45 AM |
#133 |
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... |
RetroLounge |
Aug-27-11 08:22 AM |
#139 |
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yawn. Same old crap with every single person who reflects about |
roguevalley |
Aug-25-11 09:00 PM |
#76 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Aug-26-11 08:34 AM |
#81 |
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I've decided to just put every single one of you using this tired argument on ignore |
Marrah_G |
Aug-26-11 08:54 AM |
#86 |
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I put three of them on ignore this morning already. |
Joe Fields |
Aug-26-11 10:08 AM |
#89 |
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Great idea. They are bullies. nm |
rhett o rick |
Aug-26-11 03:57 PM |
#129 |
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"They" are bullies? |
Bobbie Jo |
Aug-28-11 10:27 AM |
#152 |
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Yes. Not once will they discuss issues but only threaten that if we dont vote their way |
rhett o rick |
Aug-28-11 12:00 PM |
#153 |
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It's not a threat to say if Democrats don't vote for Obama then Perry will win. It's simple math. |
scheming daemons |
Aug-28-11 02:20 PM |
#162 |
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So you will vote for Obama regardless of his stand on issues? You are ok with not prosecuting |
rhett o rick |
Aug-28-11 03:52 PM |
#167 |
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Every vote is a choice between the candidates on the ballot. I'll pick the best one. |
scheming daemons |
Aug-28-11 08:19 PM |
#173 |
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And also... doesn't matter if I am "ok" with those things. The choice I'll have is Obama or GOP. |
scheming daemons |
Aug-28-11 08:20 PM |
#174 |
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The system is rigged. Our corp-overlords have us where they want us. |
rhett o rick |
Aug-29-11 09:33 AM |
#175 |
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Obama will not win in such a situation |
Mr Deltoid |
Aug-29-11 10:20 AM |
#177 |
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I did that a LONG time ago. |
Occulus |
Aug-28-11 09:47 AM |
#147 |
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I smell a bully. "Vote for our guy or you will be punished with a Bush". nm |
rhett o rick |
Aug-26-11 03:57 PM |
#128 |
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If I said to you "If you don't use an umbrella in the rain, you'll get wet"... would I be bullying? |
scheming daemons |
Aug-28-11 02:25 PM |
#163 |
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It is bullying if you say that those that dont vote for Obama are responsible for the election of |
rhett o rick |
Aug-28-11 03:32 PM |
#164 |
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If Obama loses it will be his own damn fault |
Mr Deltoid |
Aug-29-11 10:24 AM |
#178 |
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I'm going to put you on ignore. |
Occulus |
Aug-28-11 09:50 AM |
#149 |
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They will vote union busting Republican? Right! n/t |
Sheepshank |
Aug-25-11 04:16 PM |
#7 |
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You mean Obama? nt |
joeybee12 |
Aug-25-11 04:18 PM |
#9 |
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"THERE'S NOT A DIME'S WORTH OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN......" |
pnorman |
Aug-25-11 06:47 PM |
#51 |
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Endorsing and voting are two different things. Unions are not compelled to endorse |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-25-11 04:22 PM |
#14 |
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no maybe put up a labor candidate |
leftyohiolib |
Aug-25-11 05:20 PM |
#31 |
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Define "support" |
Ohio Joe |
Aug-25-11 04:16 PM |
#8 |
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IBTL |
NNN0LHI |
Aug-25-11 04:18 PM |
#10 |
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My reading of the AFL-CIO's press release |
gratuitous |
Aug-25-11 04:21 PM |
#12 |
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They are about to do, from my read, what they should have |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-25-11 04:42 PM |
#19 |
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This is long over due! Make candidates earn the labor vote. It.. |
Little Star |
Aug-26-11 08:39 AM |
#84 |
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Sweeney did this every four years. |
Robb |
Aug-26-11 12:23 PM |
#100 |
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They need to form a Labor Party. |
Occulus |
Aug-28-11 09:49 AM |
#148 |
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Would you leave DU if Obama was the nominee in that case? |
CakeGrrl |
Aug-25-11 04:24 PM |
#15 |
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They'll endose, but there will be some serious backroom negotiations. |
Xithras |
Aug-25-11 04:25 PM |
#16 |
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Exactly correct. (nt) |
Robb |
Aug-25-11 07:46 PM |
#54 |
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What if the other labor organizations that pulled out the AFL-CIO |
Ikonoklast |
Aug-25-11 04:39 PM |
#17 |
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UBC and UNITE-HERE left CTW. Laborers are rejoining AFL-CIO. |
Robb |
Aug-25-11 04:46 PM |
#20 |
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So, let me get this straight: A DU mod WILL NOT VOTE FOR the DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT |
MagickMuffin |
Aug-25-11 05:04 PM |
#22 |
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So, let me get this straight |
RetroLounge |
Aug-25-11 05:09 PM |
#25 |
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The anti-Obama DUERS "think" that yes they do |
MagickMuffin |
Aug-25-11 05:29 PM |
#37 |
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It's a piss-poor argument, isn't it? |
Lucian |
Aug-25-11 05:40 PM |
#45 |
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Answer this for your argument |
MagickMuffin |
Aug-25-11 05:47 PM |
#47 |
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Let me know when you get an answer! A bunch of us have asked that question |
Number23 |
Aug-25-11 07:47 PM |
#56 |
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"A DU mod WILL NOT VOTE FOR the DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT"? |
Tarheel_Dem |
Aug-25-11 05:14 PM |
#27 |
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Yep, this place has really become unbearable at times |
MagickMuffin |
Aug-25-11 05:32 PM |
#39 |
| -
Liebermann? |
_ed_ |
Aug-26-11 08:35 AM |
#82 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-26-11 10:19 AM |
#94 |
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maybe a majority of people really need to suffer hard to get it thru their heads |
leftyohiolib |
Aug-25-11 05:17 PM |
#29 |
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My state has suffered enough since bush and perry has taken over |
MagickMuffin |
Aug-25-11 05:35 PM |
#42 |
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it isnt to prove a point |
leftyohiolib |
Aug-25-11 05:57 PM |
#50 |
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A profoundly *bad* idea. |
Robb |
Aug-25-11 07:47 PM |
#55 |
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I wouldn't say it's a bad idea. It may actually be the course of history the US will take. |
Selatius |
Aug-25-11 08:07 PM |
#66 |
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Name one example in history where the population intentionally hastened their own oppression. |
Robb |
Aug-25-11 08:10 PM |
#67 |
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There exists none debatably, but I do not believe that was the solution the other person meant. |
Selatius |
Aug-25-11 08:35 PM |
#74 |
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It's an interesting notion, but it's not accurate to single out the US. |
Robb |
Aug-26-11 12:34 PM |
#103 |
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your opinion but |
leftyohiolib |
Aug-26-11 10:06 AM |
#88 |
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So you think Americans are addicted to what, eating? |
Robb |
Aug-26-11 12:18 PM |
#97 |
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I do not believe you have it straight, actually. |
Robb |
Aug-25-11 07:52 PM |
#59 |
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Liebermann? |
_ed_ |
Aug-26-11 08:36 AM |
#83 |
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Lieberman's been Independent since 2007. (nt) |
Robb |
Aug-26-11 12:43 PM |
#107 |
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So what? |
_ed_ |
Aug-26-11 03:37 PM |
#126 |
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You are WRONG, Lieberman left the Democratic Party |
MagickMuffin |
Aug-26-11 01:57 PM |
#119 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-26-11 03:36 PM |
#125 |
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Welcome to my ignore list. |
Occulus |
Aug-28-11 09:53 AM |
#150 |
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Surprisingly, it seems this part needs saying: |
Robb |
Aug-25-11 05:18 PM |
#30 |
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The Teamsters |
Worried senior |
Aug-25-11 05:21 PM |
#32 |
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Hell, it was worse than that! They endorsed Nixon in 1972. |
Major Hogwash |
Aug-26-11 02:24 PM |
#121 |
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Meany had the AFL-CIO sit on its hands in '72 as well. |
Robb |
Aug-26-11 02:59 PM |
#123 |
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I disagree. |
Joe Fields |
Aug-26-11 10:23 AM |
#95 |
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I'm sure DU's union members will be delighted to hear this. |
Robb |
Aug-26-11 12:29 PM |
#102 |
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I'm a union member of nearly fifteen years |
Occulus |
Aug-28-11 09:58 AM |
#151 |
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If you've already made that decision, then why hang around here anymore? |
Major Hogwash |
Aug-26-11 03:14 PM |
#124 |
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He may get their endorsement. But, it may be a case of "Damn with faint praise." |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Aug-25-11 05:28 PM |
#36 |
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I will stand with labor also. |
Lucian |
Aug-25-11 05:39 PM |
#44 |
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well if the republicans win we won't have to worry about unions at all |
spanone |
Aug-25-11 05:43 PM |
#46 |
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If the Republican win the Unions will grow stronger |
ThomWV |
Aug-25-11 07:53 PM |
#61 |
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Solidarity with Labor. nt |
TBF |
Aug-25-11 05:48 PM |
#48 |
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K&R for labor unions |
amborin |
Aug-25-11 07:39 PM |
#52 |
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So what you are saying is that you don't think for yourself. |
Throd |
Aug-25-11 07:47 PM |
#57 |
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What a horseshit thing to say. Who are you, the keeper of all wisdom who relies on no one? |
ThomWV |
Aug-25-11 07:51 PM |
#58 |
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Who says you have to base your vote on what any person or group says? |
Throd |
Aug-25-11 07:57 PM |
#63 |
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Well mine is certainly not based on you |
RetroLounge |
Aug-25-11 08:18 PM |
#68 |
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Exactly! |
treestar |
Aug-26-11 01:07 PM |
#113 |
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HUGE K & R !!! |
WillyT |
Aug-25-11 07:58 PM |
#64 |
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I stand with the working men and women of this country |
MissDeeds |
Aug-25-11 08:03 PM |
#65 |
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SOLIDARITY! |
shanti |
Aug-25-11 08:24 PM |
#72 |
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I'll still hold my nose and vote for him |
Lunabelle |
Aug-25-11 08:32 PM |
#73 |
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A skunk is still a skunk, no matter how it's dressed up. |
Joe Fields |
Aug-26-11 10:24 AM |
#96 |
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Labor is going to force Obama to shit or get off the pot. |
olegramps |
Aug-26-11 08:42 AM |
#85 |
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good luck, |
mitchtv |
Aug-28-11 01:31 PM |
#160 |
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K&R. |
Vidar |
Aug-26-11 10:02 AM |
#87 |
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I'm afraid the fear of President Perry pushes the Democratic Party to the right |
Douglas Carpenter |
Aug-26-11 10:13 AM |
#91 |
| -
What if labor endorsed a teabagger? |
Shagbark Hickory |
Aug-26-11 12:20 PM |
#98 |
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What if they endorsed a squirrel? |
Robb |
Aug-26-11 12:21 PM |
#99 |
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SO, Moderator- Construction Unions support building Walmarts in NYC. Teamster Unions support drillin |
KittyWampus |
Aug-26-11 12:36 PM |
#104 |
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The OP is quite clear. |
Robb |
Aug-26-11 12:39 PM |
#105 |
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pssst -- he's on your side -- read the thread. nt |
xchrom |
Aug-26-11 12:44 PM |
#109 |
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I stand with actual laborers whether or not |
LWolf |
Aug-26-11 12:44 PM |
#108 |
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So you'll "stand with actual laborers" but not their unions? |
Robb |
Aug-26-11 12:47 PM |
#110 |
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Nope. |
LWolf |
Aug-26-11 12:58 PM |
#112 |
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"Solidarity! ... Unless I know better!" |
Robb |
Aug-26-11 01:20 PM |
#115 |
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No...it's solidarity with those who earn it. nt |
LWolf |
Aug-26-11 07:32 PM |
#130 |
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How can you possibly claim to support the union movement? |
Robb |
Aug-27-11 07:46 AM |
#136 |
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I didn't exclude anyone except |
LWolf |
Aug-27-11 08:28 AM |
#140 |
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If you see unions as mere bureaucracies, I don't think you're supportive of them. |
Robb |
Aug-27-11 08:35 AM |
#141 |
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The movement is the people. |
LWolf |
Aug-27-11 08:52 AM |
#143 |
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Sorry, but conditional solidarity is not solidarity. |
Robb |
Aug-27-11 11:34 AM |
#145 |
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Sorry, but refusal |
LWolf |
Aug-28-11 09:05 AM |
#146 |
| -
Again, if you don't think unions advance the cause of labor, you don't support the union movement. |
Robb |
Aug-28-11 12:24 PM |
#154 |
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Don't put words in my mouth, or try to read my mind. |
LWolf |
Aug-28-11 12:48 PM |
#155 |
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Unions select their own leadership. And we vote a lot. |
Robb |
Aug-28-11 12:50 PM |
#156 |
| -
Are you trying to purge union members who aren't sheep? |
LWolf |
Aug-28-11 01:26 PM |
#158 |
| -
Wow. Solidarity with unions makes one a sheep? |
Robb |
Aug-28-11 02:10 PM |
#161 |
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Following leadership blindly, without holding leadership |
LWolf |
Aug-28-11 07:17 PM |
#172 |
| -
kick |
kentuck |
Aug-26-11 01:45 PM |
#117 |
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Well, there's an elephant wearing my pajamas. |
Major Hogwash |
Aug-26-11 02:21 PM |
#120 |
| -
The union will support the President.. take it to the bank |
Peacetrain |
Aug-26-11 02:25 PM |
#122 |
| -
This "hold breath till I get what I want" strategy is not going to work. |
DCBob |
Aug-26-11 03:39 PM |
#127 |
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Yay!!! We all know they will endorse Obama. Robb, I'll stand with you and labor. |
DevonRex |
Aug-26-11 08:51 PM |
#132 |
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I stand with rank and file union members. If union leaders fight Dems who use us, steal our dues, |
readmoreoften |
Aug-27-11 05:32 AM |
#134 |
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So you stand with "union members" you agree with, but not unions. |
Robb |
Aug-27-11 07:48 AM |
#137 |
| -
One question Rob |
NNN0LHI |
Aug-27-11 06:41 AM |
#135 |
| -
Good question Don. |
Robb |
Aug-27-11 07:58 AM |
#138 |
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Good answer Rob |
NNN0LHI |
Aug-27-11 08:39 AM |
#142 |
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True enough. But I said AFL-CIO, and you said UAW. |
Robb |
Aug-27-11 08:58 AM |
#144 |
| -
I don't vote for Republicans in Democrat suits, |
woo me with science |
Aug-28-11 12:57 PM |
#157 |
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A union is of no use if you don't stand in solidarity. |
Cleita |
Aug-28-11 01:28 PM |
#159 |
| -
Well put Robb. I want to know who are these people that claim to stand with Obama regardless of his |
rhett o rick |
Aug-28-11 03:48 PM |
#165 |
| -
Amen. |
ClassWarrior |
Aug-29-11 09:37 AM |
#176 |
| -
dingbatt! |
mdmc |
Aug-28-11 03:51 PM |
#166 |
| -
I will stand in solidarity with Labor. if the DLC shill poster don't like that, they can kiss my ass |
Odin2005 |
Aug-28-11 03:55 PM |
#168 |
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I'm already getting emails asking my union to withhold their endorsement |
proud2BlibKansan |
Aug-28-11 03:57 PM |
#169 |
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AFT, I presume? They poll their members, don't they? |
Robb |
Aug-28-11 04:21 PM |
#170 |
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It's a vote at the convention, just like NEA |
proud2BlibKansan |
Aug-28-11 04:29 PM |
#171 |
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I stand with labor. |
Bake |
Aug-29-11 10:48 AM |
#179 |
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