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63. So what created that belief? The money that wrote the story or the politics that make you parrot it?
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  -So, what's the take away from the whole Strauss-Kahn episode? If you rape a liar you walk free? Stinky The Clown  Aug-23-11 08:25 PM   #0 
  - Maybe this: if you accuse someone of a crime, you should stick to the truth. (nt)  enough   Aug-23-11 08:28 PM   #1 
  - Who says she lied? Maybe the "powers that be" really want this mess to go away, perhaps THEY are  Happyhippychick   Aug-23-11 08:28 PM   #2 
  - She says she lied.  former9thward   Aug-24-11 01:08 PM   #103 
  - If you're enough of an elitist, the law doesn't apply to you  Donnachaidh   Aug-23-11 08:30 PM   #3 
  - I think that is a complete and utter nonsense.  LisaL   Aug-23-11 08:32 PM   #4 
  - they took it so seriously they allowed him to be on house arrest in a fine apartment  Donnachaidh   Aug-23-11 08:42 PM   #11 
     - Like most accused of a crime, if they post bail, they don't have to stay in prison.  Luminous Animal   Aug-23-11 10:02 PM   #21 
  - Then why was he arrested and his career wrecked?  Warren Stupidity   Aug-23-11 09:51 PM   #19 
     - It was all a little too convenient  hifiguy   Aug-24-11 08:59 AM   #27 
        - there is that angle.  Warren Stupidity   Aug-24-11 09:20 AM   #29 
        - So did most of the French (and other Europeans, btw).  BlueMTexpat   Aug-24-11 09:47 AM   #40 
           - and he will do it again. maybe with a woman that is not so easily vilified. nt  seabeyond   Aug-24-11 09:51 AM   #42 
           - I am not sure whether you read my entire post and the link  BlueMTexpat   Aug-24-11 10:06 AM   #46 
              - Textbook example of an apologist for the powerful. Sorry, but very creepy.  nomb   Aug-24-11 10:15 AM   #49 
                 - Wow, if that's your take, we're in parallel universes. nt  BlueMTexpat   Aug-24-11 10:22 AM   #51 
                 - Seems you don't know much about this case.  sabrina 1   Aug-24-11 11:40 AM   #78 
                    - The NYT article today basically said  hifiguy   Aug-24-11 01:22 PM   #116 
           - His behaviour towards women, sadly, doesn't make him vulnerable as a Frenchman...  truebrit71   Aug-24-11 11:08 AM   #62 
              - And the US is a very puritanical society on many levels.  sabrina 1   Aug-24-11 12:00 PM   #85 
                 - Agreed.  truebrit71   Aug-24-11 02:00 PM   #122 
  - it is my understanding the victim lied when she hid being raped in Africa as a refugee, am i wrong.?  dogmoma56   Aug-23-11 08:35 PM   #5 
  - You are wrong.  LisaL   Aug-23-11 08:36 PM   #8 
  - of course there's links to back this up?  Donnachaidh   Aug-23-11 08:43 PM   #12 
  - Link to what?  LisaL   Aug-23-11 08:45 PM   #13 
  - You don't have to wait too long.  former9thward   Aug-24-11 01:21 PM   #115 
  - She did lie about being raped in Afirca and was 'coached' on how to  sabrina 1   Aug-24-11 02:42 PM   #126 
  - From a piece I saw earlier, she USED the rape in Africa as a way to bolster  SoCalDem   Aug-23-11 10:18 PM   #25 
  - No, she was not raped in Africa  Freddie Stubbs   Aug-24-11 09:23 AM   #30 
  - I literally can't imagine how you wouldn't have a reasonable doubt here  dsc   Aug-23-11 08:35 PM   #6 
  - What is the specific amount of lies that it takes  LanternWaste   Aug-24-11 01:41 PM   #117 
     - she lied, under oath, about the same exact subject matter  dsc   Aug-24-11 02:48 PM   #128 
  - Maybe it is that known liars don't make great witnesses and as you say only two of them know for  leeroysphitz   Aug-23-11 08:36 PM   #7 
  - Stupid criminal justice system. Requiring fair trials and proof of guilt.  AngkorWot   Aug-23-11 08:38 PM   #9 
  - Which fair trial? The victims public one held by DSK's money and connections or the canceled one ?  nomb   Aug-24-11 10:18 AM   #50 
  - The fair trial in which the prosecuting attorneys realized they had fucked up badly.  EOTE   Aug-24-11 10:32 AM   #54 
  - The "victim" isn't actually going through a trial.  AngkorWot   Aug-24-11 01:09 PM   #104 
  - He was convicted in the court of public opinion, and that was all Sarkozy needed....  truebrit71   Aug-24-11 11:15 AM   #67 
  - That it will be taht much harder to actually prosecute  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-23-11 08:41 PM   #10 
  - Can't stand thinking about this.  elleng   Aug-23-11 08:50 PM   #14 
  - Tough call I think.  Mz Pip   Aug-23-11 10:09 PM   #22 
  - I really do not think it was her background that sunk her credibility. I believe that it was  Luminous Animal   Aug-23-11 10:10 PM   #23 
  - First they tried her life, and she was found guilty.  nomb   Aug-24-11 09:26 AM   #33 
  - Yes.  elleng   Aug-24-11 10:13 AM   #48 
  - She lied to the prosecutors about THIS CASE.  hugo_from_TN   Aug-24-11 02:01 PM   #123 
  - There was no physical evidence. The medical examiner found none.l  sabrina 1   Aug-24-11 10:42 PM   #140 
  - Is it right that a boy gets killed by a wolf just because  Boojatta   Aug-23-11 09:02 PM   #15 
  - According to the fable, yes indeedy. (n/t)  Iggo   Aug-24-11 09:26 AM   #32 
  - Those are not the only two options by a long shot  Schema Thing   Aug-23-11 09:09 PM   #16 
  - The same thing we got from the Kobe incident, rich men can rape poor women  Motown_Johnny   Aug-23-11 09:11 PM   #17 
  - Hey, that's what they're for? Right?  nomb   Aug-24-11 09:39 AM   #38 
  - You're just guessing.  ZombieHorde   Aug-24-11 07:19 PM   #133 
  - The takeaway may very well be that: If you do not believe you have  rustydog   Aug-23-11 09:16 PM   #18 
  - ... 'the resources to defend yourself against the very finest lawyers, investigators, connections'  nomb   Aug-24-11 09:29 AM   #34 
  - The take away is, as in many cases that never make it to trial, the evidence wasn't there  Luminous Animal   Aug-23-11 09:58 PM   #20 
  - Doubt that the woman lied -- DSK has escaped yet another attempt to hold him accountable ....  defendandprotect   Aug-23-11 10:13 PM   #24 
  - No she actually did lie, or at least she changed her account of the incident  Warren Stupidity   Aug-24-11 06:36 AM   #26 
  - Her lawyer, a notable civil rights attorney in NYC, said this is NOT true,  nomb   Aug-24-11 09:34 AM   #36 
  - why would her lawyer say otherwise?  Warren Stupidity   Aug-24-11 09:58 AM   #45 
  - An officer of the court must tell the truth even in public. His statement is supportable by the evi  nomb   Aug-24-11 10:06 AM   #47 
  - well then either the DA or her lawyer is lying  Warren Stupidity   Aug-24-11 01:45 PM   #118 
  - In turn, we may also suggest that DSK's lawyer would cover up for him?  defendandprotect   Aug-24-11 10:25 PM   #137 
     - yes of course, It is the DA that dropped the case.  Warren Stupidity   Aug-25-11 06:33 AM   #141 
        - And there was no pressure on the DA to be dismissive to the victim -- nor to drop the case?  defendandprotect   Aug-25-11 06:10 PM   #144 
           - Cyrus Vance Jr.'s career is likely wrecked over this case.  Warren Stupidity   Aug-25-11 07:59 PM   #147 
              - I'm not looking at the case objectively? ROFL  defendandprotect   Aug-25-11 11:38 PM   #148 
  - Maid may also be a victim of Female Genital Mutilation in Ghana....  defendandprotect   Aug-24-11 10:24 PM   #136 
  - And same is true of DSK -- with his disappearing "alibi" --  defendandprotect   Aug-24-11 10:23 PM   #135 
  - She did lie  tammywammy   Aug-25-11 07:35 AM   #143 
  - Or that if you lie about rape the accused should go free, maybe? nt  dmallind   Aug-24-11 09:08 AM   #28 
  - It was a "NINE MINUTE CONSENSUAL RELATIONSHIP?" From hello to escape, 9 minutes.  nomb   Aug-24-11 09:25 AM   #31 
  - and spitting out the sperm along the way. nt  seabeyond   Aug-24-11 09:33 AM   #35 
  - Synopsis of the dialogue of a possible 9 minute consensual relationship:  Stinky The Clown   Aug-24-11 09:44 AM   #39 
     - Please show me this WHORE'S 2nd alleged customer?  nomb   Aug-24-11 09:55 AM   #43 
     - Maybe she doesn't get the opportunity to blow major world figures all that often.  EOTE   Aug-24-11 10:38 AM   #55 
     - So faced with DSK's dazzling leftist politics, the maid had no choice but to suck his cock?  nomb   Aug-24-11 10:41 AM   #56 
        - Perhaps she found out who he was and decided this would be a great way to make a buck?  EOTE   Aug-24-11 10:48 AM   #58 
           - That's quite a conspiracy theory regarding a chance 9 minute rape.  nomb   Aug-24-11 10:51 AM   #59 
              - Conspiracy theory? Here are the facts.  EOTE   Aug-24-11 10:55 AM   #60 
     - I am not alleging this is what happened.  Stinky The Clown   Aug-24-11 01:21 PM   #114 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Aug-24-11 09:56 AM   #44 
  - Dominique Strauss-Kahn statement:  nomb   Aug-24-11 09:36 AM   #37 
  - Difficulties of proof in a courtroom  treestar   Aug-24-11 09:48 AM   #41 
  - That's the harsh reality of it.  krispos42   Aug-24-11 10:23 AM   #52 
  - What alternative do you have to the testimony of credible witnesses  Romulox   Aug-24-11 10:32 AM   #53 
  - You can beat the Rap, but you can't beat the RIDE .. much  mackdaddy   Aug-24-11 10:47 AM   #57 
  - What's the take-away? Don't make shit up to try and get paid...  truebrit71   Aug-24-11 11:06 AM   #61 
  - So what created that belief? The money that wrote the story or the politics that make you parrot it?  nomb   Aug-24-11 11:10 AM   #63 
  - It certainly wasn't the multiple stories that Diallo told.  EOTE   Aug-24-11 11:13 AM   #65 
  - Her story of the cock and what the cock did to her in that room never changed, it was reported immed  nomb   Aug-24-11 11:18 AM   #68 
     - But her story of what happened after changed multiple times.  EOTE   Aug-24-11 11:23 AM   #69 
     - Wrong, her story of what the 'cock' did to her was completely  sabrina 1   Aug-24-11 11:55 AM   #83 
  - Created what belief, the fact that she lied/changed her story?  truebrit71   Aug-24-11 11:31 AM   #72 
     - You are parroting. Textbook example. You are repeating the story he paid for.  nomb   Aug-24-11 11:46 AM   #80 
        - That she lied is a fact.  EOTE   Aug-24-11 11:51 AM   #82 
        - What story? She lied. Repeatedly. Repeating facts is 'parroting'?  truebrit71   Aug-24-11 02:10 PM   #125 
           - Apparently believing anything other than what that poster strongly feels is parroting.  EOTE   Aug-24-11 02:43 PM   #127 
  - Bingo. Why are so many people having a hard time understanding this?  EOTE   Aug-24-11 11:10 AM   #64 
     - My first wish for the Genie. Go back in time and change the man in the room to Jeb Bush. Then I'll  nomb   Aug-24-11 11:15 AM   #66 
        - If Jeb Bush were falsely accused of rape I wouldn't demonize him.  EOTE   Aug-24-11 11:25 AM   #70 
        - Genie Wish #2. Take the next NYC rape accuser and pour $$ and talent into her story. Watch result.  nomb   Aug-24-11 11:32 AM   #73 
           - Her OWN lawyers said she couldn't be trusted.  EOTE   Aug-24-11 11:38 AM   #77 
              - Her own lawyers do support her. THey have accused the DA of misstating the facts.  nomb   Aug-24-11 11:44 AM   #79 
                 - Wrong. Now you are outright lying.  EOTE   Aug-24-11 11:49 AM   #81 
                 - Ahhhh, the Court of Wikipedia. Cute.  nomb   Aug-24-11 11:58 AM   #84 
                    - Do you deny ANYTHING I've posted?  EOTE   Aug-24-11 12:05 PM   #86 
                       - Yes I do. The attorney for the victim has also disagreed with the Wikipedia findings of fact.  nomb   Aug-24-11 12:23 PM   #87 
                          - What specifically do you disagree with?  EOTE   Aug-24-11 12:25 PM   #88 
                             - That she became a cock sucking lying whore in the 9 minute she knew DSK who deserves no day in court  nomb   Aug-24-11 12:29 PM   #89 
                                - Ahhhh, so more mindless platitudes from you.  EOTE   Aug-24-11 12:32 PM   #90 
                                - Oh, and by the way. You addressed absolutely nothing from the Wikipedia article.  EOTE   Aug-24-11 12:33 PM   #91 
                                   - Wikipedia is beneath any thinking persons time to quibble with. It's an intellectual backwater writ  nomb   Aug-24-11 12:39 PM   #92 
                                      - You're a joke.  EOTE   Aug-24-11 12:45 PM   #93 
                                         - I say "Wikipedia" has no place in serious talk, and you infer that I mean the NYT, CBS, PBS?  nomb   Aug-24-11 12:51 PM   #94 
                                            - Derp! Where do you think that information came from?  EOTE   Aug-24-11 12:53 PM   #95 
                                               - Ad Hominem, that always "wins". You're a Winner. Don't let the whores or anyone else stop you two!  nomb   Aug-24-11 12:56 PM   #96 
                                                  - So you're still confused by this issue?  EOTE   Aug-24-11 12:59 PM   #97 
                                                  - You posted a Wikipedia interpretation. The link to assorted news outlets does not make it "theirs"  nomb   Aug-24-11 01:06 PM   #101 
                                                  - But it is "theirs", most of them are direct quotes.  EOTE   Aug-24-11 01:10 PM   #105 
                                                  - No, it's not "theirs". You were right the first time when you said "Wikipedia" Big Diff between them  nomb   Aug-24-11 01:13 PM   #108 
                                                  - Once again, I've provided you with the links.  EOTE   Aug-24-11 01:14 PM   #110 
                                                  - And I'm quite sure that you have no idea what "ad hominem" means.  EOTE   Aug-24-11 01:02 PM   #99 
                                                  - Dude, you called me an idiot that can't read or understand simple logic. You win, Winner!!  nomb   Aug-24-11 01:10 PM   #106 
                                                  - Yeah, but that's only because you're an idiot that can't understand simple logic.  EOTE   Aug-24-11 01:12 PM   #107 
                                                  - You're like the Winningest Winner of all! Your mom must be so proud to have raised a bullying thug.  nomb   Aug-24-11 01:14 PM   #109 
                                                  - Your mom must be so proud to have raised someone who can't utilize the most simple of logic.  EOTE   Aug-24-11 01:15 PM   #111 
                                                  - I don't share your belief in the supreme deity Wikipedia? Blasphemy to not trust it? PBS=WIKI, No?  nomb   Aug-24-11 01:18 PM   #112 
                                                  - You don't share my belief in facts.  EOTE   Aug-24-11 01:56 PM   #121 
                                                  - And your constant refrain of "Wikipedia bad!" is beyond tiresome, it's idiotic.  EOTE   Aug-24-11 02:04 PM   #124 
                 - Wrong, two of her lawyers quit early on in the case. Liars  sabrina 1   Aug-24-11 01:01 PM   #98 
  - I don't think she is a public figure, so a lawsuit could emerge from this here discussion.  Major Hogwash   Aug-24-11 11:28 AM   #71 
  - Don't you know? She's a cock sucking lying whore. She was tried and found guilty.  nomb   Aug-24-11 11:35 AM   #75 
     - Nope, not yet.  EOTE   Aug-24-11 11:37 AM   #76 
  - I think your premise is erroneous  lunatica   Aug-24-11 11:32 AM   #74 
  - isn't the answer obvious  Bodhi BloodWave   Aug-24-11 01:02 PM   #100 
  - Yes, and the having of the lots of cash helps too.  Safetykitten   Aug-24-11 01:07 PM   #102 
  - wealth has its privileges n/t  librechik   Aug-24-11 01:19 PM   #113 
  - keep repeating the happy mantra here  Warren Stupidity   Aug-24-11 01:49 PM   #119 
  - I would like to congratulate all the posters in this thread who jumped to conclusions about intent  Stinky The Clown   Aug-24-11 01:50 PM   #120 
  - a victim is a victim - it is a state of being not a right  Warren Stupidity   Aug-24-11 05:31 PM   #131 
  - The question is based on two opposing premises.  ZombieHorde   Aug-24-11 07:23 PM   #134 
  - Not really the point  Spike89   Aug-24-11 03:00 PM   #129 
  - The only thing I can say is the legal system worked as it was designed to. nt  madinmaryland   Aug-24-11 03:02 PM   #130 
  - We can't use gut feelings to convict someone.  ZombieHorde   Aug-24-11 07:18 PM   #132 
  - My Take Away... Is That I'm Getting The Hell Out Of This Thread !!!~  WillyT   Aug-24-11 10:26 PM   #138 
  - Where is the link that she is telling the truth? When a rape occurs, the victim  akbacchus_BC   Aug-24-11 10:40 PM   #139 
  - Your gut is not evidence. Your post is highly disturbing.  cali   Aug-25-11 07:26 AM   #142 
  - I think in this case the prosecution would have lost.  TNLib   Aug-25-11 06:21 PM   #145 
  - your innocent until proven guilty  rdking647   Aug-25-11 06:30 PM   #146 

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