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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #104
105. you're still in denial, despite being presented w/ evidence!
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  -This avid Obama fan knows its 50/50 - if we lose we are fucked for 12 years banned from Kos  Aug-22-11 08:05 PM   #0 
  - You are a pessimist.  undeterred   Aug-22-11 08:06 PM   #1 
  - I love your optimism. n/t  WhiteTara   Aug-22-11 08:41 PM   #19 
  - I have the perfect solution to this problem.....  DeSwiss   Aug-22-11 08:10 PM   #2 
  - thanks! this is my go-to site for Obama hatred!  banned from Kos   Aug-22-11 08:11 PM   #3 
     - You need to get around the Internet some more then.  sabrina 1   Aug-22-11 08:21 PM   #5 
     - maybe I should try DKos! Seriously - Anger vs Hatred?  banned from Kos   Aug-22-11 08:27 PM   #11 
     - Huh? "DU is mild" ??? LOL n/t  Tx4obama   Aug-22-11 08:28 PM   #12 
     - What you said sabrina 1! n/t  Little Star   Aug-22-11 10:21 PM   #89 
     - If that ones puts you on ignore, I don't think you're going to be missing much  Number23   Aug-23-11 04:20 AM   #117 
  - They said the same thing in 2000 about Al Gore  Ruby the Liberal   Aug-22-11 08:20 PM   #4 
  - We've been f*cked for 12 years?  WhiteTara   Aug-22-11 08:43 PM   #21 
  - And how did that work out? n/t  BzaDem   Aug-22-11 09:44 PM   #49 
  - K&R n/t  Tx4obama   Aug-22-11 08:21 PM   #6 
  - I Don't Think You Understand  NashVegas   Aug-22-11 08:21 PM   #7 
  - Then why bother? If it is BOHICA either way, what is the point?  Liberal Veteran   Aug-22-11 08:26 PM   #9 
  - Oh that is just a bunch of bull.  Tx4obama   Aug-22-11 08:26 PM   #10 
     - I blame chemtrails.  Liberal Veteran   Aug-22-11 08:36 PM   #16 
     - Few think both parties are the exact same. Just similar enough to fuck us.  TheKentuckian   Aug-22-11 10:21 PM   #87 
     - He's done a lot of good....if you're rich.  Joe Fields   Aug-22-11 11:06 PM   #103 
  - I'm sure shaking our collective fists in impotent rage as teapublicans sail to victory is satisfying  Liberal Veteran   Aug-22-11 08:24 PM   #8 
  - I'm not entirely sure you belong here. nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Aug-22-11 08:28 PM   #13 
  - yeah! I don't belong here as an avid Obama supporter?  banned from Kos   Aug-22-11 08:33 PM   #14 
  - Hang in there. We always need more Obama supporters :) n/t  Tx4obama   Aug-22-11 08:39 PM   #17 
  - Plenty here feel as you do - haven't you noticed the divide? We all  gateley   Aug-22-11 08:40 PM   #18 
  - I'm not certain. What does your DU name mean exactly? nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Aug-22-11 08:48 PM   #27 
  - post removed - by council of a wise person  banned from Kos   Aug-22-11 08:51 PM   #30 
     - Please don't use that term. You have a point, but you will not help your case with that.  Liberal Veteran   Aug-22-11 08:53 PM   #32 
  - Oh Snap!  Solomon   Aug-23-11 05:50 AM   #119 
  - I happen to agree with the OP and I'm not sure "casting aspargus" is called for.  Liberal Veteran   Aug-22-11 08:41 PM   #20 
  - Yes, this pro-Democrat site is exclusively for those who bash Democrats.  TheWraith   Aug-22-11 10:40 PM   #96 
     - This pro democrat site really needs to rethink its identity.  Joe Fields   Aug-22-11 11:14 PM   #110 
     - I imagine that we're going to get the purge, once things get closer to the election.  TheWraith   Aug-22-11 11:24 PM   #111 
        - And that is the one rule that needs to be modified, or....  Joe Fields   Aug-22-11 11:34 PM   #113 
           - Right, I'm sure the 85% of Democrats who support Democrats can't do anything without you.  TheWraith   Aug-23-11 02:04 AM   #115 
           - Have you considered that it is emminently possible to have a site that is worth administering  BzaDem   Aug-23-11 03:54 AM   #116 
     - Oh boy. nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Aug-23-11 10:11 AM   #120 
  - Huh? I thought the president was powerless if the opposition holds one house of Congress.  Marr   Aug-22-11 08:34 PM   #15 
  - As far as I know, SCOTUS nominations don't require a vote by the House.  Liberal Veteran   Aug-22-11 08:43 PM   #23 
  - The corpse of Leo Strauss is over there. Go bother him. Nt  xchrom   Aug-22-11 08:43 PM   #22 
  - that is really completely uncalled for  banned from Kos   Aug-22-11 08:46 PM   # 
  - It's not even close to 50/50.  Major Hogwash   Aug-22-11 08:43 PM   #24 
  - No kidding! With the GOP we'd get for-profit healthcare, cuts to SS, more war  leftstreet   Aug-22-11 08:44 PM   #25 
  - It took over 30 years for the republicans to screw things up...  Liberal Veteran   Aug-22-11 08:50 PM   #29 
  - Took voters 2 election cycles to kill off the GOP. Why'd the Dems bring them back?  leftstreet   Aug-22-11 08:52 PM   #31 
     - What makes you think "the Dems" did any such thing?  Liberal Veteran   Aug-22-11 08:59 PM   #33 
        - Obama's healthcare town halls made the 'tea party'  leftstreet   Aug-22-11 09:01 PM   #37 
           - Bullshit. The right wing media, Dick Armey, and the corporatists made that midden heap.  Liberal Veteran   Aug-22-11 09:14 PM   #42 
              - Why didn't Obama and the Dems have Wall Street Bailout Town Halls?  leftstreet   Aug-22-11 09:15 PM   #44 
                 - When? During inaugural recess? While even people like Krugman were screaming "RED ALERT!"?  Liberal Veteran   Aug-22-11 09:19 PM   #45 
                    - So thousands of anti-bailout protesters picked the wrong time to protest?  leftstreet   Aug-22-11 09:22 PM   #46 
                       - I don't understand the fixation on Wall St. bailouts that were started before Obama took office.  Liberal Veteran   Aug-22-11 09:42 PM   #47 
                       - candidate Obama, in Fall of 2008, pressured senators to pass TARP  amborin   Aug-22-11 09:47 PM   #51 
                       - Yeah. Good for him. As most progressive economists said, it was absolutely necessary  BzaDem   Aug-22-11 09:47 PM   #53 
                          - So more Americans are drawing food assistance now because..........?  leftstreet   Aug-22-11 09:52 PM   #56 
                          - How many people do you think would be drawing food assistance if TARP never passed? n/t  BzaDem   Aug-22-11 10:01 PM   #61 
                             - How many hedge fund managers are there?  leftstreet   Aug-22-11 10:03 PM   #65 
                             - What about an answer to my question about food assistance?  BzaDem   Aug-22-11 10:05 PM   #67 
                                - ROFL: how many jobs could have been created w/ $23 trillion squandered on the bailout?  amborin   Aug-22-11 10:09 PM   #72 
                                   - We didn't spend anywhere close to 23 trillion. Most of that is guarantees that will NEVER be spent.  BzaDem   Aug-22-11 10:10 PM   #74 
                                      - keep telling yourself that....  amborin   Aug-22-11 10:14 PM   #80 
                                      - Indeed I will, and others. Because it happens to be the truth.  BzaDem   Aug-22-11 10:18 PM   #85 
                                      - "truthy" but not the truth; I feel your plight: it's painful to see $23 trill down the drain  amborin   Aug-22-11 10:22 PM   #90 
                                      - What's painful is to have someone put up a source that doesn't say REMOTELY what they claim it says,  BzaDem   Aug-22-11 10:28 PM   #93 
                                      - LOLOL; nonsense; you said you searched at "page not found"  amborin   Aug-22-11 11:01 PM   #99 
                                      - Even you have dropped your claim down to 14 trillion. Still absolute nonsense, but we're making  BzaDem   Aug-22-11 11:06 PM   #104 
                                      - you're still in denial, despite being presented w/ evidence!  amborin   Aug-22-11 11:08 PM   #105 
                                      - Someone sure is. n/t  BzaDem   Aug-22-11 11:10 PM   #108 
                             - $23 trillion = total cost of the bank bailout  amborin   Aug-22-11 10:06 PM   #68 
                                - Sure, if you include the full value of guarantees that will never be spent.  BzaDem   Aug-22-11 10:08 PM   #71 
                                - nope; that's the total amount already doled out  amborin   Aug-22-11 10:10 PM   #73 
                                   - Page not found, and page not found. n/t  BzaDem   Aug-22-11 10:10 PM   #75 
                                      - Try this link  Art_from_Ark   Aug-22-11 11:10 PM   #107 
                                      - Direct quote: "I will assume this is total exposure, commitments and not actual real costs."  BzaDem   Aug-22-11 11:12 PM   #109 
                                - That is a very worst case estimate. Not a hard number.  Liberal Veteran   Aug-22-11 10:11 PM   #77 
                                   - LOL!  amborin   Aug-22-11 10:12 PM   #79 
                                      - Perhaps you would care to reread your sources.  Liberal Veteran   Aug-22-11 10:17 PM   #83 
                                         - that's not remotely comforting; $23 trillion  amborin   Aug-22-11 10:34 PM   #94 
                                         - Under that metric, if I were to buy stock in a company, that would be considered a bailout.  BzaDem   Aug-22-11 11:04 PM   #100 
                          - not true at all; they said if a bailout, the gov't should have major ownership role; never  amborin   Aug-22-11 09:59 PM   #59 
                       - Obama & Dems blew off the huge anti-war, anti-Wall Street, anti-Neocon/Bush momentum  leftstreet   Aug-22-11 09:47 PM   #52 
                          - Not precisely an accurate summation of events.  Liberal Veteran   Aug-22-11 10:07 PM   #69 
                             - It was a sideshow DESIGNED to give the opposition that opening  leftstreet   Aug-22-11 10:11 PM   #76 
                       - It isn't their timing so much as their message. Most progressive economists not only said the  BzaDem   Aug-22-11 09:46 PM   #50 
                          - Voters don't care what 'progressive economists' think n/t  leftstreet   Aug-22-11 09:49 PM   #54 
                          - Voters also don't really care what scientists think. Does that make the scientists wrong? n/t  BzaDem   Aug-22-11 09:50 PM   #55 
                             - You're blowing your own argument. Why do you always do this?  leftstreet   Aug-22-11 09:54 PM   #57 
                                - What exactly do you think my argument was?  BzaDem   Aug-22-11 10:00 PM   #60 
                                   - I try not to dwell on your thought processes n/t  leftstreet   Aug-22-11 10:02 PM   #62 
                                      - Perhaps that explains it then. n/t  BzaDem   Aug-22-11 10:03 PM   #64 
                          - wrong, again; they said, if a bailout, then gov't should have ownership stake in the banks  amborin   Aug-22-11 10:02 PM   #63 
                             - They said that given the choice between TARP and nothing, it wasn't even a close call. n/t  BzaDem   Aug-22-11 10:03 PM   #66 
                                - wrong, yet again; they said, " no equity, no bailout"  amborin   Aug-22-11 10:07 PM   #70 
                                   - We took equity in all of the big banks. n/t  BzaDem   Aug-22-11 10:11 PM   #78 
                                      - LOL  leftstreet   Aug-22-11 10:14 PM   #81 
                                      - If you didn't realize that we took preferred shares in all the big banks, maybe that's why you are  BzaDem   Aug-22-11 10:19 PM   #86 
                                         - Hey do you think if we gave banks more $$ we could eliminate all food assistance claims?  leftstreet   Aug-22-11 10:21 PM   #88 
                                            - I think you would admit that aiming a fire hose at a burning house saves lives, even if aiming a  BzaDem   Aug-22-11 10:25 PM   #92 
                                               - Did you say fire hose?  leftstreet   Aug-22-11 10:34 PM   #95 
                                      - ROFL....  amborin   Aug-22-11 10:15 PM   #82 
  - damn right  griffi94   Aug-22-11 09:00 PM   #35 
  - If the rich won't help ...  GeorgeGist   Aug-22-11 08:46 PM   #26 
  - No.  BulletproofLandshark   Aug-22-11 08:50 PM   #28 
  - In otherwords, some folks don't really give a rat's ass about the 2012 election  FrenchieCat   Aug-22-11 09:00 PM   #34 
  - We could be doomed for much longer. What too many activists  OHdem10   Aug-22-11 09:01 PM   #36 
  - You would think the party that prides itself on UNIONS might walk the walk...  Liberal Veteran   Aug-22-11 09:05 PM   #40 
  - we're already fucked. i already see starving pets, multiple vans, tents, campers parked on people's  indurancevile   Aug-22-11 09:03 PM   #38 
  - Yep. The Bubble burst in September of 2008......  FrenchieCat   Aug-22-11 09:05 PM   #39 
     - i saw homeless; the many starving strays that were formerly pets & the multiple people camping on  indurancevile   Aug-22-11 09:08 PM   #41 
        - Tent city discovered in Ocean Co., New Jersey  kenny blankenship   Aug-22-11 11:50 PM   #114 
  - K & Fucking R!  lonestarnot   Aug-22-11 09:14 PM   #43 
  - We're damned if we do, damned if we don't.  Lucian   Aug-22-11 09:44 PM   #48 
  - "Get behind Obama for reelection now!"  unkachuck   Aug-22-11 09:54 PM   #58 
  - What you have to offer is FEAR and more FEAR ... let's try Sen. Bernie Sanders ...!!  defendandprotect   Aug-22-11 10:17 PM   #84 
  - If wishes were fishes we'd all cast nets.  Liberal Veteran   Aug-22-11 10:24 PM   #91 
     - I'm afraid of what Obama and Third Way are doing to the party and the nation ...!!  defendandprotect   Aug-23-11 10:13 AM   #121 
  - I agree...however, for the first time, recently, I started to think that  Laura PourMeADrink   Aug-22-11 10:47 PM   #97 
  - Hey look the guy that was banned from Kos is shouting out orders!  whatchamacallit   Aug-22-11 10:55 PM   #98 
  - There is so much more at stake than you can see.  Joe Fields   Aug-22-11 11:04 PM   #101 
  - For something to be "at stake," there has to be a chance that it might ever change. n/t  BzaDem   Aug-22-11 11:30 PM   #112 
  - Hopefully the dems keep one house of congress if it happens  Juche   Aug-22-11 11:06 PM   #102 
  - 12 years? Ha! more like 120!  0rganism   Aug-22-11 11:09 PM   #106 
  - Those are some scary thoughts. nt  mfcorey1   Aug-23-11 04:49 AM   #118 
  - I'm voting for Obama but don't worry about Ginsburg's seat.  Jim Lane   Aug-23-11 01:15 PM   #122 

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