Davis_X_Machina
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Fri Aug-19-11 07:04 PM
Response to Reply #35 |
| 52. He doesn't hide it well at all... |
| -It is time for Socialists to be Socialists |
Taverner |
Aug-19-11 05:52 PM |
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There are at least two... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Aug-19-11 05:55 PM |
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Democratic Socialists are awesome |
Taverner |
Aug-19-11 05:56 PM |
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No, they're the US affiliate of the... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Aug-19-11 06:01 PM |
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Pardon my ignorance |
Taverner |
Aug-19-11 06:34 PM |
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Pas de problem, mon frére... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Aug-19-11 06:40 PM |
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They have never really recovered after the WWI Red Scare |
CatholicEdHead |
Aug-19-11 05:58 PM |
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The Palmer Raids were brutal |
Taverner |
Aug-19-11 06:01 PM |
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And it was finished with the Second Red Scare and the black lists |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-19-11 06:18 PM |
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Almost nobody behind those is alive today |
Taverner |
Aug-19-11 06:23 PM |
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Many who are still alive who were alive in the 1950's |
CatholicEdHead |
Aug-19-11 06:27 PM |
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Yes, so reason to let them know J Edgar and his friends are dead.... |
Taverner |
Aug-19-11 06:29 PM |
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This is the problem in America. |
white_wolf |
Aug-19-11 06:09 PM |
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Yes - and as a result, we should rebuild with a vengance... |
Taverner |
Aug-19-11 06:24 PM |
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The Russian Revolution blurred the lines |
CatholicEdHead |
Aug-19-11 06:24 PM |
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The interesting thing about the Russian Revolution and the |
white_wolf |
Aug-19-11 06:29 PM |
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The Russian Rev started off on the right foot |
Taverner |
Aug-19-11 06:33 PM |
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+++ |
swilton |
Aug-19-11 07:07 PM |
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IMO the Russian Revolution was the worst thing to ever happen to Socialism. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-19-11 07:35 PM |
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Keep in mind that the West sent in thousands of saboteurs to ensure that they didn't modernize... |
saras |
Aug-19-11 08:53 PM |
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Take a look at "Why Marx was Right" by Terry Eagleton |
Taverner |
Aug-19-11 06:31 PM |
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I keep reminding people but SMITH would be critical |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-19-11 06:39 PM |
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I'm actually about to start Wealth of Nations. |
white_wolf |
Aug-19-11 06:42 PM |
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A lot easier, and realize you need to also read |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-19-11 06:46 PM |
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Smith was the first person to study scientifically the psychology of ethical descion-making. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-19-11 07:50 PM |
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Smith and Marx are the Alpha and Omega of "Classical" Economics. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-19-11 07:46 PM |
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Yes, he would. Not to mention Keynes or Marx.... |
Taverner |
Aug-19-11 06:44 PM |
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In some ways both agree at fundamental levels |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-19-11 06:49 PM |
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Invisible Hand - Tom Tomorrow has an excellent send-up of it! |
Taverner |
Aug-19-11 06:51 PM |
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Hearing you talking about the pages of caveats to the invisble hand is part of the reason |
white_wolf |
Aug-19-11 06:52 PM |
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That they do |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-19-11 06:55 PM |
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Was it you who suggested both Marx and Malthus were Classical Economists? |
Taverner |
Aug-19-11 06:56 PM |
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Yes, the school starts with Smith, a political economist |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-19-11 06:59 PM |
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Thing is Marx was a critique of Capitalism |
Taverner |
Aug-19-11 07:00 PM |
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And Smith was a critique of Mercantilism |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-19-11 07:03 PM |
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What book are you reading? I am just curious |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-19-11 06:37 PM |
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See above |
CatholicEdHead |
Aug-19-11 06:40 PM |
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And it is also available in NOOK and Kindle formal |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-19-11 06:51 PM |
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Sounds like somthing I should check out |
CatholicEdHead |
Aug-19-11 06:57 PM |
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The begining of the counter revolution |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-19-11 07:07 PM |
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And I also went through |
CatholicEdHead |
Aug-19-11 07:11 PM |
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Book Correction |
CatholicEdHead |
Aug-19-11 10:51 PM |
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'Why Marx was Right' by Eagleton |
Taverner |
Aug-19-11 06:42 PM |
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It also does not help that the CPUSA was funded by Moscow |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-19-11 06:36 PM |
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I don't care who paid for it |
Taverner |
Aug-19-11 06:42 PM |
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IT does not matter if you care |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-19-11 06:47 PM |
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Yes but they are on their way out |
Taverner |
Aug-19-11 06:50 PM |
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Go to a tea party rally |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-19-11 06:52 PM |
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Fuck the Teabaggers |
Taverner |
Aug-19-11 06:54 PM |
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Sorry if being aware of the roadblocks is bothersome |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-19-11 06:57 PM |
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I know you speak the truth. But they are dying. |
Taverner |
Aug-19-11 06:59 PM |
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Actually they have always been with us in a way |
CatholicEdHead |
Aug-19-11 07:04 PM |
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and take it all the way back to both |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-19-11 07:14 PM |
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Ooops thought you meant "SP USA" not "CP USA" |
Taverner |
Aug-20-11 12:57 PM |
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Of course, in 1919, the American Delegates went to Berne, not Moscow |
CatholicEdHead |
Aug-19-11 06:45 PM |
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Emma Goldman highlighted problems in the Bolshivek Revolution |
Taverner |
Aug-19-11 06:49 PM |
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Rosa Luxemburg also criticized it as well. |
white_wolf |
Aug-19-11 06:55 PM |
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Also, the CPUSA had ties with the USSR, thus bad PR after Stalin's atrocities... |
Odin2005 |
Aug-19-11 07:29 PM |
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There's no representation. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Aug-19-11 06:39 PM |
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There can be - with Education |
Taverner |
Aug-19-11 06:45 PM |
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Bernie Sanders won't even say he's a socialist publicly. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Aug-19-11 06:48 PM |
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Are you sure about that? |
white_wolf |
Aug-19-11 06:50 PM |
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He and Lawrence O'Donnell. Who has called himself both a "European" and "Californian" Socialist |
Taverner |
Aug-19-11 06:55 PM |
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He doesn't hide it well at all... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Aug-19-11 07:04 PM |
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## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
DU GrovelBot |
Aug-19-11 06:49 PM |
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I would recommend membership to the |
Proles |
Aug-19-11 07:05 PM |
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Proud Socialist here. If I could only join the Wobblies ... n/t |
SusanaMontana41 |
Aug-19-11 07:13 PM |
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K&R!!! |
Odin2005 |
Aug-19-11 07:25 PM |
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Sure, do we get t-shirts and hats? |
RagAss |
Aug-19-11 07:35 PM |
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K&R |
silverweb |
Aug-19-11 08:23 PM |
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Industrial Workers of the World |
Richard_Myers |
Aug-20-11 08:04 PM |
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