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Thu Aug-18-11 02:34 PM
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| 48. The near destruction of the Democratic Party at this point ... after decades ... |
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Edited on Thu Aug-18-11 02:35 PM by defendandprotect
of infiltration by Koch Bros. funded DLC and their 20 years or more of influence
over the party --
Obama's presidency was intended to reverse W's evils --
rather we've ended up with an attack on the core principles of the Dem Party --
the New Deal, labor, unions -- health care !!! Yikes!!
With Obama's drones flying over Pakistan and obama taking us into a second decade
of the W wars!!!
Obama is over -- the question is whether we will save any thing of the party!!
But, now, things have monumentally shifted.
With the steady erosion of Obama's new polling numbers on overall job approval (40%), handling of the economy (26%), the federal budget deficit (24%), creating jobs (29%), Afghanistan (38%), education (41%), foreign affairs (42%), terrorism (53%), we are looking at a reelection campaign in deep jeopardy.
And we liberals and progressives aren't the only ones taking note of that.
Right now, Jeb Bush is weighing all of this against the hurdle of 'is it TOO SOON?' That is the only thing that has thus far held him back from a run for the WH. As long as he thought there was little to no chance of anything other than an embarrassing defeat in a match with Obama, he did not want to tarnish himself with that type of loss. That would have buried the "fresh face" named Bush, forever.
Again, the outlook has monumentally shifted. Obama's position is vulnerable now, with his relentless pursuit of right wing policies, blessed by corporate-bred advisers, and made infinitely worse with the administration's attacks on those who fought for his victory in 2008. And Jeb may be now willing to take the gamble.
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| -Beware. Jeb Bush is flying under the radar. |
seafan |
Aug-18-11 11:22 AM |
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egads, please, no |
Emit |
Aug-18-11 11:28 AM |
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It's a good strategery. |
Turbineguy |
Aug-18-11 11:29 AM |
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True and absolutely terrifying. n/t |
ewagner |
Aug-18-11 11:33 AM |
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Not flying...more like slithering.... n/t |
pipi_k |
Aug-18-11 11:30 AM |
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How was he regarded in Florida as governor? |
gateley |
Aug-18-11 11:30 AM |
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People mistakenly thought he was the "Smart Bush Brother" and therefore less harmful than Dubya. |
Tommy_Carcetti |
Aug-18-11 11:37 AM |
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Do the Floridians realize now who/what he really was? nt |
gateley |
Aug-18-11 11:43 AM |
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Probably not. He's helped by the fact that the current governor is even worse than him. |
Tommy_Carcetti |
Aug-18-11 01:45 PM |
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Wow. You're probably right. Gulp. It's like Ron Paul is looking |
gateley |
Aug-18-11 02:28 PM |
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Well, This Floridian Has NEVER Felt Jebby Has Gone Away! Slithering IS |
ChiciB1 |
Aug-18-11 11:53 AM |
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People in FL liked him, but hey, that's FL? |
lark |
Aug-18-11 05:33 PM |
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You speak as if we were worse off under Bush |
Dutchmaster |
Aug-18-11 05:50 PM |
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I've had a vaguely queasy stomach |
hifiguy |
Aug-18-11 11:31 AM |
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This is my secret nightmare |
Generic Other |
Aug-18-11 11:32 AM |
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"You never introduce a new product in August." |
Bozita |
Aug-18-11 11:38 AM |
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everyone remembers george and still blames him for the economy three years later |
seabeyond |
Aug-18-11 11:39 AM |
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Of all the potential GOP candidates.. he scares me the least. Meaning: I can't believe |
LeftinOH |
Aug-18-11 11:41 AM |
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Well, for some reason when Bushes run, our elections stop working properly |
EFerrari |
Aug-18-11 11:44 AM |
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and watch out for him making serious inroads with the |
theaocp |
Aug-18-11 11:41 AM |
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Yes. He speaks much better Mexican than his brother. |
KamaAina |
Aug-18-11 01:37 PM |
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So true. The worst of all worlds: a smart Bush.... |
PurityOfEssence |
Aug-18-11 11:42 AM |
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Simply not going to happen....Bachmann's chances are better... |
truebrit71 |
Aug-18-11 11:42 AM |
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What if "the voting machines" show a different result? This is ultimately what we are looking at. |
seafan |
Aug-18-11 12:14 PM |
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It's not the votes that count, but who counts the vote... |
truebrit71 |
Aug-18-11 12:23 PM |
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Amen. Sigh NT |
KaryninMiami |
Aug-18-11 09:11 PM |
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I will give you a simple scenario where there is an 70+% chance Jeb will be the US President in 2016 |
stockholmer |
Aug-18-11 05:10 PM |
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Hillary is not going to run in2016. Her only shot was in |
davidwparker |
Aug-18-11 06:26 PM |
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Goodhair Is His Placeholder... |
KharmaTrain |
Aug-18-11 11:47 AM |
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Jeb Bush has endorsed John Huntsman for President, just last week. nt |
boston bean |
Aug-18-11 11:48 AM |
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I'm Not sure It Matter... His EGO Is Huge & He's Not One To Miss A Chance |
ChiciB1 |
Aug-18-11 12:01 PM |
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I believe that was Jeb Bush Jr. |
PatSeg |
Aug-18-11 12:19 PM |
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Nope. That was little Jebbie Bush, Jr. |
seafan |
Aug-18-11 12:23 PM |
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I believe that was his son, Jeb Bush, Jr. |
KamaAina |
Aug-18-11 01:38 PM |
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2012 won't be the last election. |
WinkyDink |
Aug-18-11 01:39 PM |
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Is his daughter still engaging in prescription fraud? |
Shagbark Hickory |
Aug-18-11 11:50 AM |
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I'd love to see him fly under the SONAR. |
Gidney N Cloyd |
Aug-18-11 11:50 AM |
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My gut instinct is that he won't run until 2016. |
MilesColtrane |
Aug-18-11 11:53 AM |
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I agree. |
WinkyDink |
Aug-18-11 01:39 PM |
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K & R - You make some very good points. |
Raksha |
Aug-18-11 12:01 PM |
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This was my prediction a few months ago but someone on DU pooh-poohed the idea saying, "Jeb Bush |
Citizen Worker |
Aug-18-11 12:10 PM |
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oh great!!! |
newspeak |
Aug-18-11 12:22 PM |
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Flying under the radar and slithering among the bushes. |
russspeakeasy |
Aug-18-11 01:15 PM |
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Too many DUers would welcome it, judging by today's posts |
scheming daemons |
Aug-18-11 01:21 PM |
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## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
DU GrovelBot |
Aug-18-11 01:21 PM |
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Do I remember correctly that Poppy always believed Jeb would be the better |
LuckyLib |
Aug-18-11 01:26 PM |
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And Rove is working hard to destroy Perry |
Broderick |
Aug-18-11 01:32 PM |
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I told my husband yesterday that Jeb WILL BE a Pres. candidate. BANK on it. |
WinkyDink |
Aug-18-11 01:38 PM |
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Doesn't matter if he's under the radar. The moment he pops up with the last name "Bush," |
ecstatic |
Aug-18-11 01:46 PM |
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I was afraid when I heard rumblings down here about Perry running - |
TBF |
Aug-18-11 01:47 PM |
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There is NO excuse |
madamesilverspurs |
Aug-18-11 01:49 PM |
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WE know this, but does the majority of voters? nt |
gateley |
Aug-18-11 02:29 PM |
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Remember Nancy Reagan told hubby, Ronnie Reagan |
mrdmk |
Aug-19-11 11:22 AM |
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why do repug men look like evil slop happy pigs? |
Whisp |
Aug-18-11 01:51 PM |
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I think Jeb runs in 2016. 2012 is too soon besides they still need a Democrat to clean up the mess. |
bklyncowgirl |
Aug-18-11 02:01 PM |
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Here is why Jeb Bush would 'want this disaster'. |
seafan |
Aug-18-11 02:49 PM |
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You said it very well. Pres Obama moved right to keep Jeb out, but was it enough. |
rhett o rick |
Aug-18-11 07:23 PM |
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The near destruction of the Democratic Party at this point ... after decades ... |
defendandprotect |
Aug-18-11 02:34 PM |
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Jeb has skeletons in his closet |
starroute |
Aug-18-11 05:15 PM |
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The Bush family has a construction firm to build new closets. It's not like anyone gets into them. |
saras |
Aug-18-11 07:09 PM |
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And if they do get into them .... |
defendandprotect |
Aug-19-11 03:23 PM |
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That is a classic piece, starroute. Thanks for adding it here. |
seafan |
Aug-19-11 07:45 AM |
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Public was lied to about S&L Theft & Embezzlements ... just poor accounting -- again -!!! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-19-11 03:23 PM |
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K & R |
zappaman |
Aug-18-11 05:17 PM |
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agreed |
M_A |
Aug-18-11 06:02 PM |
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I have been saying for over a |
xxqqqzme |
Aug-18-11 06:26 PM |
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No one with a head that big is going to fly under any radar |
NNN0LHI |
Aug-18-11 06:28 PM |
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of course,he's a bush-gop will dump Perry and Bachmann and |
katty |
Aug-18-11 06:44 PM |
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IF NOT JEB BUSH then SOME OTHER STEALTH CANDIDATE!! That's how they do it now |
Kashka-Kat |
Aug-18-11 08:19 PM |
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Do you really believe "W" would have won the 2000 election without Jeb pulling the votes? |
Imagevision |
Aug-18-11 08:35 PM |
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Don't Forget Paul Ryan |
Sportsguy |
Aug-18-11 08:37 PM |
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Oh dear God, no |
Canuckistanian |
Aug-18-11 08:42 PM |
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As a country, we will not survive this again. |
seafan |
Aug-18-11 10:08 PM |
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Oh goodie! And George can advise him since he has all the experience. |
Auntie Bush |
Aug-18-11 10:28 PM |
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Obama was stumping w/Jebbie in FL on destroying public schools last I heard: |
blkmusclmachine |
Aug-18-11 11:10 PM |
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I think you're right |
Hydra |
Aug-19-11 09:41 AM |
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'Obama's miracle: He resurrected and legitimized the Bush name again.' |
seafan |
Aug-19-11 11:17 AM |
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OMFH |
Hydra |
Aug-19-11 11:52 AM |
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Kicking to keep this Bush on the radar screen! |
mrdmk |
Aug-19-11 11:28 AM |
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I see it as possible |
CatholicEdHead |
Aug-19-11 11:29 AM |
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That was such an embarrassment to Florida. But Jeb thinks we are all "Joe Bag of Donuts" anyway. |
seafan |
Aug-19-11 11:44 AM |
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I have been saying this from the beginning... |
marias23 |
Aug-19-11 03:13 PM |
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The only reason Jeb Bush could even hope to run - in ANY year - |
kenny blankenship |
Aug-19-11 03:18 PM |
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Obama is getting weaker and weaker -- cripes, even some think Romney would be better!!! Ouch!!! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-19-11 03:26 PM |
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I'm thinking people like Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann have been nothing but distractions |
TK421 |
Aug-19-11 07:06 PM |
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I think that the Republican party is letting all the assholes run |
Marnie |
Aug-20-11 07:53 PM |
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