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| 102. This thread title is disingenuous, to say the least. |
| -Matt Taibbi has jumped the shark with his support of Rick Perry/Teabaggers |
banned from Kos |
Aug-16-11 07:12 PM |
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A case of hysteria. Nt |
xchrom |
Aug-16-11 07:17 PM |
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I like Taibbi, but like everyone, he looks at issues through his |
gateley |
Aug-16-11 07:19 PM |
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Is this the problem? |
CelticThunder |
Aug-16-11 07:20 PM |
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QE is not "surrendering to Wall Street"! In fact QE lowers bond yields and |
banned from Kos |
Aug-16-11 07:25 PM |
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Sorry, but you're the one talking nonsense here. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-16-11 07:40 PM |
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Yes, we are in a massive deleveraging phase - thus we need more QE! |
banned from Kos |
Aug-16-11 07:51 PM |
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Right. It failed twice in the US, multiple times in Japan, so by all means.. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-16-11 08:32 PM |
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New Deal 2.0 economist agrees with you: |
amborin |
Aug-16-11 09:16 PM |
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If QE lowered Wall Street's profit even a little bit, there would not |
Fool Count |
Aug-17-11 04:55 AM |
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I'm not for it either as a stimulus and tax substitute, but we have |
mmonk |
Aug-16-11 07:22 PM |
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Unrec for misleading OP. Matt is right and he's NOT supporting teabaggers. |
EFerrari |
Aug-16-11 07:24 PM |
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delete |
joshcryer |
Aug-16-11 08:06 PM |
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Agree...but the "Throw Another One Under the Bus" Crowd...is all over it. |
KoKo |
Aug-16-11 09:43 PM |
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I love ignore.. |
EFerrari |
Aug-16-11 09:52 PM |
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By calling Perry a lunatic? That's Taibbi "supporting" him? |
Zenlitened |
Aug-16-11 07:25 PM |
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In the article, Taibbi refers to Perry as a "uniquely thuggish" "Texi-creep" |
SteppingRazor |
Aug-16-11 07:25 PM |
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Taibbi is right. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-16-11 07:28 PM |
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Taibbi is only right from a dollar hawk goldbug perspective |
banned from Kos |
Aug-16-11 07:33 PM |
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Duh. QE2 ended in April. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-16-11 07:50 PM |
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Really? Do you understand the difference between the stock of bonds held by the fed, and the flow |
BzaDem |
Aug-16-11 07:59 PM |
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Your puzzle is missing some pieces |
girl gone mad |
Aug-16-11 08:25 PM |
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Exactly how does QE increase bank liquidity? |
banned from Kos |
Aug-16-11 08:37 PM |
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It's right in Koo's piece.. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-17-11 12:52 AM |
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I was responding to your "QE2 ended" quip. Now you changed the argument. The fact that QE2 ended |
BzaDem |
Aug-16-11 08:52 PM |
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You're still missing the point. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-17-11 12:55 AM |
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I'm not the one missing the point. Whatever demand was created by QE did NOT stop just because the |
BzaDem |
Aug-17-11 01:08 AM |
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Get your head out of the textbooks once in a while. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-17-11 01:24 AM |
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They STILL have to look for returns elsewhere, because the cash from the Bernanke put is STILL in |
BzaDem |
Aug-17-11 01:39 AM |
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Again, no net cash was added to the economy.. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-17-11 01:57 AM |
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Now you are making a different argument: that the FUTURE Fed sale of treasuries is lowering oil |
BzaDem |
Aug-17-11 02:02 AM |
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My argument has been consistent. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-17-11 02:13 AM |
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Then you are back to your math error. QE2 for all intents and purposes has not ended, since the Fed |
BzaDem |
Aug-17-11 02:19 AM |
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The stimulus involved the active purchase of Treasuries.. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-17-11 02:32 AM |
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Monetary stimulus usually refers to amounts -- not rates at which the amounts are changing. But |
BzaDem |
Aug-17-11 02:35 AM |
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It's not at all clear to me what point you are trying to make here. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-17-11 04:06 AM |
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This is the critical point: why should we care about the flows? |
BzaDem |
Aug-17-11 05:00 AM |
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Again, the Bernanke Put is what fueled demand for higher risk assets. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-17-11 05:36 AM |
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Because they have to put it into something? |
BzaDem |
Aug-17-11 05:46 AM |
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The Fed is no longer purchaser of first resort.. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-17-11 06:16 AM |
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Sure, I agree that the economy looks weak and therefore they will (independently of QE) take that |
BzaDem |
Aug-17-11 07:16 AM |
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The Fed is still holding the Treasuries they purchased, but.. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-17-11 02:01 PM |
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Just to also correct some of what you are saying here.. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-17-11 01:45 AM |
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You are absolutely correct here. But you are completely wrong with respect to the effects of QE |
BzaDem |
Aug-17-11 01:53 AM |
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This is hyperbole. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-17-11 02:05 AM |
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I think the problem is that you are claiming that the Fed started to "withdraw stimulus in April," |
BzaDem |
Aug-17-11 02:13 AM |
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What changed was the market's expectation.. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-17-11 02:28 AM |
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You are still saying that investors WERE forced to seek returns elsewhere, as if that is past tense. |
BzaDem |
Aug-17-11 02:32 AM |
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pick and choose much? what about gold? and who does your food shopping? |
Gabi Hayes |
Aug-16-11 07:52 PM |
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Garbage! You say soy and wheat production are down 8-10% |
banned from Kos |
Aug-16-11 08:07 PM |
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Where does demand enter into your equation? |
girl gone mad |
Aug-16-11 08:36 PM |
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Unrec for false title |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-16-11 07:37 PM |
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And once again, we have a convergence of the far left and far right. Taibbi's piece is nonsense. |
BzaDem |
Aug-16-11 07:38 PM |
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Or maybe Taibbi actually does know what he's talking about.. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-16-11 08:02 PM |
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Not really. |
BzaDem |
Aug-16-11 09:05 PM |
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Where do you get the idea that Taibbi's reading MMT blogs? |
girl gone mad |
Aug-17-11 01:10 AM |
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Well, you've said a lot in your comment, but you have not shown |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-16-11 08:09 PM |
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Taibbi, who has no experience in Economics, is attacking the messengers of Krugman and Diamond and |
BzaDem |
Aug-16-11 09:07 PM |
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Not being a bishop in the Church of Economics is one requirement toward actually telling the truth. |
JackRiddler |
Aug-18-11 03:58 PM |
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thank you. The fact Taibbi is quoting far-right ZeroHedge is troubling |
banned from Kos |
Aug-16-11 08:10 PM |
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Taibbi's a 'grifter'??? |
Mimosa |
Aug-17-11 01:17 AM |
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I agree. As a matter of fact, I looked up the thief that stole a bunch of stuff |
jtuck004 |
Aug-16-11 07:40 PM |
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Unrec for use of "jumped the shark". |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-16-11 07:45 PM |
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Unrec for misleading headline. |
blkmusclmachine |
Aug-16-11 07:47 PM |
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Let everyone be warned. |
trumad |
Aug-16-11 07:48 PM |
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thanks. not much of a surprise, considering the wildly misleading assertions |
Gabi Hayes |
Aug-16-11 07:56 PM |
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Yep. n/t |
Marr |
Aug-16-11 08:31 PM |
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Why Would The Banks Lend the Money Out? |
Yavin4 |
Aug-16-11 07:49 PM |
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Democrats who support trickle down socialism which does nothing but |
dameocrat67 |
Aug-16-11 07:56 PM |
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This thread totally sucks. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Aug-16-11 08:04 PM |
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Derp. |
WilliamPitt |
Aug-16-11 08:09 PM |
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The problem isn't the supply it is that the spigot was cut off at a high level |
underpants |
Aug-16-11 08:21 PM |
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False title as usual |
Bluebear |
Aug-16-11 08:34 PM |
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I don't read Taibbi for financial insights |
Canuckistanian |
Aug-16-11 08:42 PM |
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Not this loyalist. Love my Taibbi |
Autumn |
Aug-16-11 08:54 PM |
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Support is shown by calling Perry a creep and lunatic? |
JVS |
Aug-16-11 09:04 PM |
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Taibbi supports their POLICY of monetary tightening and lack of |
banned from Kos |
Aug-16-11 09:10 PM |
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Manchester Guardian: "quantitative easing good for the rich, bad for the poor" |
amborin |
Aug-16-11 09:20 PM |
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Paul Krugman "We need $8-10 trillion of QE" |
banned from Kos |
Aug-16-11 09:28 PM |
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Printing more money means higher inflation and a lower dollar value. |
MadHound |
Aug-16-11 09:35 PM |
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Nonsense. CPI is nowhere near 5% with or without food/energy. |
banned from Kos |
Aug-16-11 09:41 PM |
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Food/energy prices have fallen? |
MadHound |
Aug-16-11 09:48 PM |
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You know, solar flares have been increasing lately. But I am not going to blame that on the Fed. |
BzaDem |
Aug-17-11 12:10 AM |
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If I measure inflation in a way that accounts for any number of variables, |
MadHound |
Aug-17-11 06:22 AM |
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"handing it to the corrupt financial sector" is whats wrong |
grahamhgreen |
Aug-17-11 01:05 AM |
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That's what I read, too. |
SusanaMontana41 |
Aug-17-11 01:12 AM |
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I don't think he's against stimulus. He's against corporate welfare. |
SusanaMontana41 |
Aug-17-11 01:08 AM |
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Exactly. The misleading title of this thread is a disgrace. More trillions to bankers... |
JackRiddler |
Aug-17-11 02:32 AM |
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That is a total lie. QE was a purchase of GSE debt and Treasuries |
banned from Kos |
Aug-17-11 02:09 PM |
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Whoo-boy! |
Iggo |
Aug-17-11 02:13 PM |
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You fail to acknowledge.. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-17-11 08:32 PM |
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Also, a minimum of $30 billion in commissions to the primary dealers. |
JackRiddler |
Aug-18-11 03:52 PM |
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$30 billion? Five percent of QE2? source that please. |
banned from Kos |
Aug-18-11 03:57 PM |
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Not to mention that the Fed now pays interest on those excess cash reserves.. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-18-11 05:56 PM |
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It's hilarious, isn't it? |
JackRiddler |
Aug-18-11 06:32 PM |
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.25%? Not a big deal - although it should be none at all. |
banned from Kos |
Aug-18-11 06:43 PM |
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I think he jumped the shark with 911, but reading the article I don't see support for Perry |
jakeXT |
Aug-17-11 01:41 AM |
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you're spinning. why? |
indurancevile |
Aug-17-11 05:19 AM |
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I kind of disagree with Taibbi |
sfpcjock |
Aug-17-11 05:44 AM |
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I don't understand what's wrong with that statement about printing 2 trillion dollars. |
Vinca |
Aug-17-11 06:29 AM |
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If you don't even know the difference between a fiscal stimulus and a monetary infusion to the banks |
JackRiddler |
Aug-17-11 01:49 PM |
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You're trying too hard. |
Iggo |
Aug-17-11 02:09 PM |
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! |
Bluebear |
Aug-18-11 02:32 PM |
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Dana Houle... Is That You ??? |
WillyT |
Aug-17-11 08:18 PM |
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Reject for slander, falsehood etc |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-17-11 08:51 PM |
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This thread title is disingenuous, to say the least. |
marmar |
Aug-18-11 03:59 PM |
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