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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 06:22 PM
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14. Please explain how each of these people is tanking the economy
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  -So, is there any truth to this? fivepennies  Aug-15-11 06:08 PM   #0 
  - Factcheck is your friend  Mass   Aug-15-11 06:10 PM   #1 
  - Factcheck provided no facts for "average pay for WH staff actually declined"  former9thward   Aug-15-11 08:56 PM   #71 
     - They did  Mass   Aug-15-11 09:08 PM   #72 
  - According to fact check, it is mis-leading  Ohio Joe   Aug-15-11 06:10 PM   #2 
  - somebody is going to be the top 20... also... not out of line if promotions were the reason  scheming daemons   Aug-15-11 06:11 PM   #3 
  - I didn't see much context  fivepennies   Aug-15-11 06:14 PM   #7 
     - Some did but overall, they decreased. So no,"people tanking it did" NOT get promotions.  uppityperson   Aug-15-11 06:17 PM   #10 
     - um...they got promotions to replace people who left  scheming daemons   Aug-15-11 06:20 PM   #12 
     - Precisely  Occulus   Aug-15-11 06:52 PM   #37 
        - no... it has been LESS for his people  scheming daemons   Aug-15-11 06:58 PM   #43 
        - This is another attempt to pit private sector workers against public sector workers.  PeaceNikki   Aug-15-11 07:05 PM   #45 
           - I believe this is one  dog_lovin_dem   Aug-15-11 09:32 PM   #76 
     - Please explain how each of these people is tanking the economy  Ohio Joe   Aug-15-11 06:22 PM   #14 
     - "the people tanking it get promotions".  polmaven   Aug-15-11 07:22 PM   #50 
  - Yes and no. Here's a link that will explain it better than I can or care to...  uppityperson   Aug-15-11 06:11 PM   #4 
  - I do not know, but I have no problem  mattvermont   Aug-15-11 06:12 PM   #5 
  - Just making it in DC...  HipChick   Aug-15-11 06:15 PM   #9 
  - Bet we'd probably have a problem with it  fivepennies   Aug-15-11 06:22 PM   #15 
     - You mean like the Director of African American Media that took a cut over predecessor?  uppityperson   Aug-15-11 06:25 PM   #18 
     - why are you talking about the side you're on as the "other side"?  scheming daemons   Aug-15-11 06:39 PM   #24 
        - Well, I do know that in the private sector  fivepennies   Aug-15-11 06:53 PM   # 
           - So... you support the idea of fucking over average workers and want to see more of this?  PeaceNikki   Aug-15-11 06:56 PM   #42 
           - You support promoting people to higher positions without an increase in salary?  uppityperson   Aug-15-11 06:58 PM   #44 
           - No, I support promoting people  fivepennies   Aug-15-11 07:26 PM   #51 
              - How do you know what the Director of IT has done?  PeaceNikki   Aug-15-11 07:28 PM   #53 
              - How do you know what the Director of African American Media has done at a decreased salary  uppityperson   Aug-15-11 07:40 PM   #58 
           - Gotta shrink down that gubamint, huh?  Ohio Joe   Aug-15-11 07:09 PM   #47 
              - No.  fivepennies   Aug-15-11 07:27 PM   #52 
                 - By not paying people to work?  Ohio Joe   Aug-15-11 07:52 PM   #64 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-15-11 06:12 PM   #6 
  - Talk about shit pay, do you know what it cost to live in DC?  Firebrand Gary   Aug-15-11 06:15 PM   #8 
  - You'll get no argument from me on lobbiests.  fivepennies   Aug-15-11 06:29 PM   #20 
  - $172k will get you a little more than a decent apartment in DC  Hippo_Tron   Aug-15-11 11:11 PM   #85 
  - It's not much. They can make three times as much in the private sector. Also, we  demosincebirth   Aug-15-11 06:19 PM   #11 
  - But the Director of African American Media is tanking the economy where cops and firefighters aren't  uppityperson   Aug-15-11 06:21 PM   #13 
     - what does that have to do with the origingal post? I don't follow.  demosincebirth   Aug-15-11 06:43 PM   #27 
        - I was being sarcastic. OP further down talks about these raising tanking the economy.  uppityperson   Aug-15-11 06:46 PM   #31 
  - I got pissed at a similar local 'report' on state politicians and their staff.  PeaceNikki   Aug-15-11 06:23 PM   #16 
  - I think none of the should make anything...  Davis_X_Machina   Aug-15-11 06:24 PM   #17 
  - I guess that's the ultimate question:  fivepennies   Aug-15-11 06:38 PM   #23 
  - Oh, no...  Davis_X_Machina   Aug-15-11 07:21 PM   #49 
     - Your link wouldn't open.  fivepennies   Aug-15-11 07:49 PM   #62 
        - Here's the piece..  Davis_X_Machina   Aug-15-11 08:03 PM   #65 
  - The same goes for teachers too...  Hippo_Tron   Aug-15-11 11:13 PM   #86 
  - where's the link?  spanone   Aug-15-11 06:29 PM   #19 
  - rense?  blogslut   Aug-15-11 06:29 PM   #21 
  - That was why my original question was  fivepennies   Aug-15-11 06:36 PM   #22 
     - You don't think people should get raises with promotions?  PeaceNikki   Aug-15-11 06:39 PM   #25 
     - How would I know if you deserved a promotion?  fivepennies   Aug-15-11 06:44 PM   #29 
        - OOoh, so you think that you should personally approve all public sector promotions. lol.  PeaceNikki   Aug-15-11 06:46 PM   #33 
        - No, its not wierd.  fivepennies   Aug-15-11 07:08 PM   #46 
           - This is another attempt to pit private sector workers against public sector workers.  PeaceNikki   Aug-15-11 07:09 PM   #48 
              - That's nonsense.  fivepennies   Aug-15-11 07:37 PM   #55 
                 - Then try pushing in the OTHER direction exclusively if you're a liberal!!  PeaceNikki   Aug-15-11 07:40 PM   #56 
                    - Fight for unions.  fivepennies   Aug-15-11 07:46 PM   #60 
                       - OK, then be bitter trying to get others worked up into your fervor when someone you don't know  PeaceNikki   Aug-15-11 07:49 PM   #61 
                       - Bitter? Not like a lot of people are going to be.  fivepennies   Aug-15-11 08:18 PM   #66 
                          - AGAIN... WTF does the Director of IS or the Director of Travel Office have to do with ANY of that?  PeaceNikki   Aug-15-11 08:21 PM   #67 
                          - People will be bitter because there is less money going out to WH staff? Seriously?  uppityperson   Aug-15-11 08:51 PM   #69 
                             - An employee gets paid AFTER the work is done.  fivepennies   Aug-15-11 09:22 PM   #75 
                                - If someone is working on a long project, or a never ending service thing, no they don't  uppityperson   Aug-15-11 09:37 PM   #78 
                                   - Your examples didn't work out so well, did they?  fivepennies   Aug-15-11 10:12 PM   #81 
                                      - Oh my examples work out fine. Do your own research if you are actually interested  uppityperson   Aug-15-11 10:29 PM   #83 
                       - Do you really think Ms. Turk has more clout than you regarding unions? Seriously? Why?  uppityperson   Aug-15-11 07:51 PM   #63 
        - SOMEBODY had to hold each position  scheming daemons   Aug-15-11 06:54 PM   #41 
        - Yeah, I have.  fivepennies   Aug-15-11 07:40 PM   #57 
           - You resent Mr Lewis for taking a new job at a lower pay than his predecessor did?  uppityperson   Aug-15-11 07:43 PM   #59 
        - How about the ceo that got a $2 mil bonus  Angry Dragon   Aug-15-11 08:46 PM   #68 
           - Absolutely!!!  fivepennies   Aug-15-11 09:09 PM   #73 
              - Whoosh go the goal posts. If you want to know what someone does, ask them. Write, email, call the WH  uppityperson   Aug-15-11 09:20 PM   #74 
              - The system is broke ........... Obama did not break it  Angry Dragon   Aug-15-11 09:35 PM   #77 
                 - I'm not free to pick and choose?  fivepennies   Aug-15-11 09:59 PM   #79 
                    - What I hear you saying is that it is not the pay itself but  Angry Dragon   Aug-15-11 10:10 PM   #80 
                    - President gets " paid 172 grand a year to pontificate about sacrifice"? thank you for clarifying  uppityperson   Aug-15-11 10:27 PM   #82 
     - no... when a person leaves, someone lower gets promoted to replace them  scheming daemons   Aug-15-11 06:46 PM   #32 
     - And in some cases Person B is promoted with a salary of only $75k.  uppityperson   Aug-15-11 06:51 PM   #36 
     - No, it is not true. For instance, Lewis is paid less than his predecessor.  uppityperson   Aug-15-11 06:48 PM   #34 
  - so.... you started a thread saying "is this true?" .. and when it is shown to be false....  scheming daemons   Aug-15-11 06:41 PM   #26 
  - False?  fivepennies   Aug-15-11 06:46 PM   #30 
     - white house salary expenditures went down  scheming daemons   Aug-15-11 06:50 PM   #35 
     - Kevin Lewis took a new job at a lesser salary than his predecessor.  uppityperson   Aug-15-11 06:52 PM   #38 
     - Yes misleading. Your post does not say they took a different job, They just did not  Mass   Aug-15-11 08:55 PM   #70 
        - Seriously, most of these people are middle management (at best)  Hippo_Tron   Aug-15-11 11:26 PM   #88 
  - Thanks for your concern. n/t  tabasco   Aug-15-11 06:44 PM   #28 
  - I'll never be mad at workers making a higher wages.  FarLeftFist   Aug-15-11 06:53 PM   #39 
  - Remember these people work long, long hours. I don't care who the president is. He should have the  southernyankeebelle   Aug-15-11 06:54 PM   #40 
  - I'm surprised how low some of those figures are. Tough to  MineralMan   Aug-15-11 07:30 PM   #54 
  - Unrec for intentionally misleading post  MilesColtrane   Aug-15-11 10:53 PM   #84 
  - Top-most row (Matthew Vogel) is interesting in an ironic and  coalition_unwilling   Aug-15-11 11:23 PM   #87 
  - Locking -  dmr   Aug-15-11 11:40 PM   #89 

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