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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 09:27 AM
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At first, I thought I'd just let the "the left abandoned Carter" business go. But because it is such an obviously untrue assertion, perhaps I should address it.

Anyone who is even mildly familiar with the 1980 election knows that it had nothing whatsoever to do with "the left." Rather, Reagan's victory can be attributed to a single, specific democratic subgroup, known as the "Reagan Democrats." These were the conservative democrats, and absolutely, without any question, NOT "the left."
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  -On President Obama & 2012 H2O Man  Aug-14-11 03:02 PM   #0 
  - Wow. Just wow.  Ruby the Liberal   Aug-14-11 03:12 PM   #1 
  - Thank you.  H2O Man   Aug-14-11 04:02 PM   #13 
  - The only thing wrong with Obama is that he won the presidency.  olegramps   Aug-15-11 08:58 AM   #49 
  - My problem with equating the past with the present in the case of Obama  mmonk   Aug-14-11 03:19 PM   #2 
  - I think that  H2O Man   Aug-14-11 08:01 PM   #23 
     - It's funny. Though I've done a lot of leg for the Democratic Party  mmonk   Aug-14-11 09:08 PM   #26 
     - I am so offended by this crap I could scream.  Bluenorthwest   Aug-15-11 01:47 PM   #66 
        - Gracious.  H2O Man   Aug-15-11 01:52 PM   #69 
           - But I have seen a boxing match so I am qualified to give an  Bluenorthwest   Aug-15-11 02:43 PM   #78 
              - Get a grip.  H2O Man   Aug-15-11 02:49 PM   #79 
                 - Reality based?  Bluenorthwest   Aug-15-11 04:36 PM   #83 
                    - Okay.  H2O Man   Aug-16-11 08:07 AM   #85 
  - You shouldn't ignore the message of 2010 from the voters on Obama/Dems -- !!  defendandprotect   Aug-14-11 03:22 PM   #3 
  - Comparing them  H2O Man   Aug-14-11 03:58 PM   #12 
     - "Attempt at equating" is not absolute  salib   Aug-15-11 10:16 AM   #56 
        - I don't think  H2O Man   Aug-15-11 11:12 AM   #60 
           - Wow.  salib   Aug-15-11 11:32 AM   #62 
              - Let's look at  H2O Man   Aug-15-11 01:47 PM   #67 
  - k&r...  spanone   Aug-14-11 03:24 PM   #4 
  - Interesting analysis, but I would have put Obama in bureaucratic authority camp  FarCenter   Aug-14-11 03:25 PM   #5 
  - I would have to disagree, especially when compared  Ruby the Liberal   Aug-14-11 03:38 PM   #8 
  - I do not know his ideology or ideas.  mmonk   Aug-14-11 03:48 PM   #9 
  - Rush is a big thinker?  Enthusiast   Aug-15-11 06:53 AM   #39 
  - One of the things  H2O Man   Aug-14-11 04:15 PM   #14 
  - "real life"vs "reel life"  pnorman   Aug-14-11 03:34 PM   #6 
  - Yeah.  H2O Man   Aug-14-11 03:56 PM   #11 
     - It is a brilliant comparison. Definitely a keeper.  Ruby the Liberal   Aug-14-11 04:19 PM   #15 
        - Thanks!  H2O Man   Aug-14-11 04:29 PM   #21 
  - K&R nt  gateley   Aug-14-11 03:38 PM   #7 
  - Thanks!  H2O Man   Aug-14-11 08:01 PM   #24 
  - This navel-gazing is why we can't have nice things. He 's either a leader or not.  Safetykitten   Aug-14-11 03:55 PM   #10 
  - Some valid and  H2O Man   Aug-14-11 04:25 PM   #17 
  - This post is useless without pictures.  Enthusiast   Aug-15-11 06:57 AM   #40 
  - For some people, thinking through a problem is a nice thing in itself.  EFerrari   Aug-15-11 02:32 PM   #75 
  - this is a terrific OP  cali   Aug-14-11 04:23 PM   #16 
  - Well, thank you!  H2O Man   Aug-14-11 04:27 PM   #19 
  - kick  upi402   Aug-14-11 04:26 PM   #18 
  - well bueraucratic authority is supposed to be traditional  hfojvt   Aug-14-11 04:29 PM   #20 
  - While bureaucratic authority  H2O Man   Aug-14-11 04:32 PM   #22 
     - That brings back an old memory...  Raksha   Aug-15-11 02:11 PM   #73 
  - Chapter 1?  Me.   Aug-14-11 08:44 PM   #25 
  - By your definitions  Hydra   Aug-14-11 09:31 PM   #27 
  - Nice post. And accurate.......nt  Enthusiast   Aug-15-11 06:59 AM   #41 
  - I think the closest analogy to Obama is the Carter Presidency...  kentuck   Aug-14-11 10:26 PM   #28 
  - Nothing compares to today.  mmonk   Aug-14-11 10:30 PM   #29 
  - Who's going to challenge?  kentuck   Aug-14-11 10:32 PM   #30 
  - I see no one either. Looks like we'll have to watch the disassembling  mmonk   Aug-14-11 11:12 PM   #31 
  - Nice observation.  Enthusiast   Aug-15-11 07:01 AM   #42 
  - You do realize thats what the GOP stated there goal was to do to him  cstanleytech   Aug-15-11 12:08 AM   #34 
     - ...and the left did to Carter what it's doing to Obama now, throwing baby out with bath water  uponit7771   Aug-15-11 09:03 AM   #50 
        - Not true.  H2O Man   Aug-15-11 09:04 AM   #51 
           - ......  H2O Man   Aug-15-11 09:27 AM   #54 
           - Regardless who "did it" then or now the point is its still helping GOP  cstanleytech   Aug-15-11 11:02 AM   #58 
              - Divisions in the  H2O Man   Aug-15-11 11:10 AM   #59 
              - In regards to the divisions within the Party...  kentuck   Aug-15-11 01:58 PM   #70 
                 - Certainly.  H2O Man   Aug-15-11 02:03 PM   #71 
                    - I think that some may assume the "left" abandoned Carter because...  kentuck   Aug-15-11 02:18 PM   #74 
                       - That may very  H2O Man   Aug-15-11 02:42 PM   #77 
              - it is important to know that centrist democrats helped the GOP by voting for reagan  noiretextatique   Aug-15-11 01:36 PM   #65 
                 - Must of us share one belief though and that is  cstanleytech   Aug-15-11 04:13 PM   #81 
                    - i agree...and i am sure some democrats will vote GOP too. eom  noiretextatique   Aug-15-11 04:21 PM   #82 
           - thank you...i am so sick of this tired meme  noiretextatique   Aug-15-11 01:32 PM   #64 
  - great post. nt  DesertFlower   Aug-14-11 11:25 PM   #32 
  - Very thoughtful. Recall that Hillary was called a "racist" when she suggested that MLK had the dream  McCamy Taylor   Aug-14-11 11:38 PM   #33 
  - Your post led  H2O Man   Aug-15-11 08:50 AM   #46 
  - Just another . . brick in the wall.  Major Hogwash   Aug-15-11 02:11 AM   #35 
  - Damn!  Enthusiast   Aug-15-11 07:08 AM   #44 
     - We will never know if we don't try.  Major Hogwash   Aug-16-11 07:48 AM   #84 
  - Obama has the misfortune of becoming president at a time of  JDPriestly   Aug-15-11 02:32 AM   #36 
  - Great post, very true. k&r nt  alsame   Aug-15-11 08:23 AM   #45 
  - Thank you. This cannot be said enough.  Horse with no Name   Aug-15-11 02:38 PM   #76 
  - + My household. n/t  truedelphi   Aug-15-11 02:50 PM   #80 
  - Recced to Read Later  BackToThe60s   Aug-15-11 04:59 AM   #37 
  - President Obama is not a leader.  democrank   Aug-15-11 05:43 AM   #38 
  - So you think there's no such thing as congress either? elections have consequences....  uponit7771   Aug-15-11 09:09 AM   #53 
  - Kick  pinto   Aug-15-11 07:02 AM   #43 
  - A fabulous post  malaise   Aug-15-11 08:51 AM   #47 
  - I've been a critic, but I now support him  Mosaic   Aug-15-11 08:53 AM   #48 
  - .  myrna minx   Aug-15-11 09:06 AM   #52 
  - Wonderful post...  Javaman   Aug-15-11 09:49 AM   #55 
  - Great Post. Kudos. One response: Is Obama a charismatic middle manager?  Armstead   Aug-15-11 10:41 AM   #57 
  - Interesting and enlightening post.  salib   Aug-15-11 11:22 AM   #61 
  - A very insightful, thoughtful and thought-provoking post.  LongTomH   Aug-15-11 01:31 PM   #63 
  - I'm seriously tapped out on the hope and change shit!  Butch350   Aug-15-11 01:49 PM   #68 
  - Great post.  Horse with no Name   Aug-15-11 02:10 PM   #72 
  - K&R  AlmostUlyanov   Aug-16-11 08:29 AM   #86 
 

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