| 153. Religion is a personal choice? Is whether or not you believe in God a personal choice? |
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Edited on Sat Aug-13-11 09:10 AM by astral
I do not happen to agree with that. Sure, a person can choose which denomination of church they want to belong to, or whether to join a church at all, or what to call God in their prayers, but whether or not someone believes in God is not a 'choice.' I can't 'choose' to not believe in God anymore than you can choose TO believe if you do not.
I believe the earth is round and that the air that I breathe exists. I do not see how I could 'choose' to no longer believe that what I think is true is true.
However, you DO choose whether you want to to talk loudly about what you do and do not believe and proclaim your religion or lack thereof.
Just because you believe the earth is flat doesn't mean it is. Just because you don't believe air exists because you can not see it does not give you the ability to stop breathing. Just because you do not believe God created you doesn't mean you can stop existing.
: ) Okay the last two lines are just kind of kidding but really point out the absurdity of us despising each other because we do not think or believe in the same way.
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backscatter712 |
Aug-12-11 04:00 PM |
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Sad? Sound like common sense to me. nt |
PassingFair |
Aug-12-11 04:01 PM |
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Could have just as easily said, don't vote Republican. |
Kurmudgeon |
Aug-12-11 07:16 PM |
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But that's no fun at all ... |
66 dmhlt |
Aug-12-11 07:57 PM |
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Wasn't Obama basing his "belief"in traditional non-gay marriage on his religious beliefs? |
defendandprotect |
Aug-12-11 09:03 PM |
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Maybe he was but his actions prove that he has evolved |
MadMaddie |
Aug-12-11 09:12 PM |
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So there has been little we could ... |
defendandprotect |
Aug-12-11 09:27 PM |
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Highly Religious |
aero56 |
Aug-13-11 09:03 AM |
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Read the post I was responding to -- |
defendandprotect |
Aug-13-11 07:57 PM |
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Actually, one of the few things Obama seems to have done right-- |
Moonwalk |
Aug-13-11 10:01 AM |
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Partially agree -- |
defendandprotect |
Aug-13-11 08:41 PM |
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How many good people has he nominated only to be stopped |
MadMaddie |
Aug-13-11 08:48 PM |
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Personal belief and public policy can be separate n/t |
alp227 |
Aug-13-11 02:01 AM |
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Possible . . . as is the concept of honest men -- |
defendandprotect |
Aug-13-11 09:00 PM |
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you won't be a bigot. you are voting against poseurs. these are |
roguevalley |
Aug-13-11 12:20 PM |
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This is an intelligent decision....why are you sad about it ? |
RagAss |
Aug-12-11 04:02 PM |
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Sad that atheists are considered completely unelectable in the U.S. n/t |
backscatter712 |
Aug-12-11 04:03 PM |
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Well actually,,,has any self-proclaimed atheist ever run for President.? |
RagAss |
Aug-12-11 04:06 PM |
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IIRC, the atheists who've actually made it just to Congress could be counted on one hand. |
backscatter712 |
Aug-12-11 04:18 PM |
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I'd still love to see a candidate say "No, no religion. I don't believe in fairy tales" |
RagAss |
Aug-12-11 04:35 PM |
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Me too! n/t |
backscatter712 |
Aug-12-11 05:04 PM |
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Me Three!!!! |
maheanuu |
Aug-12-11 08:56 PM |
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When did we get promoted to 2nd Class status? n/t |
BiggJawn |
Aug-12-11 11:06 PM |
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hmm... |
chervilant |
Aug-13-11 08:21 AM |
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TJ |
PassingFair |
Aug-13-11 12:26 PM |
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Studies have been done asking, "Would you vote for a president who is ______" |
jeff47 |
Aug-12-11 05:02 PM |
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What studies? Have a link? |
RagAss |
Aug-12-11 05:15 PM |
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Here's one. There are many. google is your friend. |
riderinthestorm |
Aug-12-11 06:30 PM |
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Thanks but this is an old study...just prior to the "in your face" nutjob revolution of late. |
RagAss |
Aug-12-11 08:55 PM |
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the country has gotten... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Aug-12-11 09:45 PM |
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2007 Gallup better? |
jeff47 |
Aug-12-11 11:47 PM |
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I explicitly said that this was only one of many. All polls are in line with the one I posted. |
riderinthestorm |
Aug-13-11 09:54 AM |
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polls indicate.... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Aug-12-11 09:43 PM |
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I think in some states a belief in god is required to run at all |
CarrieLynne |
Aug-13-11 09:54 AM |
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I do wonder why. |
Union Scribe |
Aug-12-11 05:59 PM |
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That's not a slur. You should know what one is before accusing anyone of them. |
Zhade |
Aug-12-11 06:29 PM |
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Right. People choose their beliefs, and thus aren't protected from mocking. |
Arugula Latte |
Aug-12-11 07:49 PM |
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I don't think that's so. People don't have conscious control over their beliefs. |
immoderate |
Aug-12-11 09:28 PM |
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So religion is not an intellectual belief? I agree. nt |
fishbulb703 |
Aug-12-11 11:22 PM |
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99% of the time your parents control your religious belief. |
obxhead |
Aug-13-11 09:50 AM |
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I have no connection to this site but it expresses my own thoughts very clearly |
Fred Engels |
Aug-12-11 06:59 PM |
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Religion is a personal belief system ... your choice ... we are free to challenge all such beliefs! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-12-11 09:06 PM |
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DU is not a public arena, it is a privately owned, members only forum |
demwing |
Aug-12-11 09:49 PM |
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Of course DU is a public arena ... |
defendandprotect |
Aug-12-11 10:04 PM |
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Well, I see the mindset that drove me away years ago is still active. |
BiggJawn |
Aug-12-11 11:13 PM |
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Well this thread still stands, so apparently you're safe |
demwing |
Aug-13-11 07:41 AM |
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win for the bigotry! |
AlbertCat |
Aug-13-11 08:09 AM |
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Apply your teeth to my buttocks. N/T |
BiggJawn |
Aug-14-11 12:17 AM |
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Thank you. (But it's not true when it comes to religious intolerance.) |
astral |
Aug-13-11 08:52 AM |
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Gays vs. the Religious are Apples and Oranges... |
Moonwalk |
Aug-13-11 11:35 AM |
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That is an excellent post. |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-13-11 03:42 PM |
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It is still heavily viewed by a wide range of political persuations. nt |
humblebum |
Aug-13-11 12:43 PM |
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So would you say the same thing about political beliefs? |
Arugula Latte |
Aug-13-11 01:39 PM |
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no, because it's not a disallowed behavior |
demwing |
Aug-13-11 11:54 PM |
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Religion is a personal belief system ... your choice ... we are free to challenge all such beliefs! |
AlbertCat |
Aug-13-11 07:55 AM |
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there is such a thing as reasonable religion and unreasonable religion. |
tomp |
Aug-13-11 07:09 AM |
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there is such a thing as reasonable religion |
AlbertCat |
Aug-13-11 08:18 AM |
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religion is about belief.... |
tomp |
Aug-13-11 03:30 PM |
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Just a reminder--Ayn Rand was an atheist. |
Critters2 |
Aug-12-11 04:04 PM |
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Point - I wouldn't vote for her - she's batshit in a different direction. |
backscatter712 |
Aug-12-11 04:10 PM |
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If the candidate is a Pentecostal, I wouldn't care how liberal they were |
Taverner |
Aug-12-11 04:52 PM |
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OK .. we now have 100's of Catholics in Congress -- and RCC is going EVANGELIST...!!! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-12-11 09:10 PM |
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Harry Reid is a pretty pathetic Democrat too. (NT) |
Tesha |
Aug-12-11 05:11 PM |
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Only because of the billing issue |
izquierdista |
Aug-12-11 06:04 PM |
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Misses the point. |
wickerwoman |
Aug-12-11 07:37 PM |
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Reid is a rather poor example of a Democrat -- and how strong is he on ERA, Roe vs Wade? |
defendandprotect |
Aug-12-11 09:12 PM |
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and Hitler was a Catholic. |
provis99 |
Aug-13-11 12:59 AM |
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Assholes come in every stripe, color, creed, and shape, |
darkstar3 |
Aug-13-11 02:20 AM |
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I would like to have an opportunity to vote for an atheist, but that doesn't mean that |
totodeinhere |
Aug-13-11 01:42 PM |
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No "rapture ready" person should ever be considered for that office. |
Donnachaidh |
Aug-12-11 04:06 PM |
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I keep picturing Bill Hicks... |
backscatter712 |
Aug-12-11 04:09 PM |
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Remember this Pope is taking RCC all the way to Evangelicalism ... !!! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-12-11 09:14 PM |
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It's only sad because we actually have those people vying for the Presidency |
lunatica |
Aug-12-11 04:09 PM |
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I feel the same way. |
MessiahRp |
Aug-12-11 04:16 PM |
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Amen!!! n/t |
backscatter712 |
Aug-12-11 04:19 PM |
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Sure, but Obama is just like the GOP .... |
JoePhilly |
Aug-12-11 04:20 PM |
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Wasn't his support for |
defendandprotect |
Aug-12-11 09:15 PM |
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Hey, at least Obama pays lip service to non-believers and doesn't wear his religion on his sleeve. |
LAGC |
Aug-13-11 09:47 AM |
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What is the difference |
MrDiaz |
Aug-12-11 04:22 PM |
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A significant bias towards reality, rather than delusion. n/t |
backscatter712 |
Aug-12-11 04:23 PM |
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! |
muffin1 |
Aug-12-11 06:14 PM |
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A significant bias towards reality, rather than delusion. |
AlbertCat |
Aug-13-11 08:30 AM |
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Extremism. |
Wait Wut |
Aug-12-11 04:28 PM |
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The correlation would be someone not voting for another because the |
moksha |
Aug-12-11 05:08 PM |
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I won't vote for an extremist Muslim, for the same reason I won't vote for an extremist Christian. |
backscatter712 |
Aug-12-11 05:27 PM |
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No -- homosexuality isn't a personal choice ... religion is ... |
defendandprotect |
Aug-12-11 09:18 PM |
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Religion is a personal choice? Is whether or not you believe in God a personal choice? |
astral |
Aug-13-11 09:09 AM |
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Yes, it most certainly IS a personal choice. |
cleanhippie |
Aug-13-11 02:26 PM |
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Do you not understand "Separation of Church & State" ... ? |
defendandprotect |
Aug-13-11 09:14 PM |
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As an atheist who eschews religion from the public sphere and, actually, |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-12-11 05:16 PM |
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I dunno. What's the difference between the FBI and the Ku Klux Klan? |
yardwork |
Aug-12-11 06:02 PM |
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Is there anything about being gay or muslim that disqualifies you from a job? |
wickerwoman |
Aug-12-11 07:40 PM |
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im not sure what being gay and global warming |
iamthebandfanman |
Aug-12-11 07:43 PM |
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I refuse to discriminate |
Horse with no Name |
Aug-12-11 04:26 PM |
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This is an EXCELLENT post! May I copy and spread it around? |
Lint Head |
Aug-12-11 04:38 PM |
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By all means! n/t |
backscatter712 |
Aug-12-11 04:40 PM |
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I don't vote for crazy people of any stripe |
hifiguy |
Aug-12-11 05:07 PM |
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Well, you may have a hard time doing that: |
dtexdem |
Aug-12-11 05:11 PM |
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That contributes to how fucked up America is. |
backscatter712 |
Aug-12-11 05:51 PM |
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I say this as a person of faith.... |
one_voice |
Aug-12-11 06:00 PM |
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Where were you |
LWolf |
Aug-12-11 06:07 PM |
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agreed, and thank you |
demwing |
Aug-13-11 08:14 AM |
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as long as their practice ends at the end of their nose |
AlbertCat |
Aug-13-11 08:36 AM |
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It can in this sense: |
LWolf |
Aug-13-11 09:58 AM |
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K&R, baby. |
muffin1 |
Aug-12-11 06:15 PM |
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THIS. People can be religious, I just won't reward their irrationality by voting for them. |
Zhade |
Aug-12-11 06:25 PM |
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i don't want to live under their Fascist Theocracy.. link>> |
dogmoma56 |
Aug-12-11 06:30 PM |
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they are a Cult, if the Xings described werent in it they would call it the Anti-Christ, |
dogmoma56 |
Aug-12-11 06:27 PM |
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I have always openly discriminated against right-wing assholes! |
santamargarita |
Aug-12-11 06:29 PM |
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Amen! again.......Amen! SO well said. |
joanbarnes |
Aug-12-11 07:09 PM |
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Thanks |
Duck |
Aug-12-11 07:10 PM |
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The time is running out...please read and think. |
Duck |
Aug-12-11 10:21 PM |
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I wouldn't vote for them, or shop at their business |
cheapdate |
Aug-12-11 07:17 PM |
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Just the opposite for me. |
ForgoTheConsequence |
Aug-12-11 07:24 PM |
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I will go to excessive lengths to buy American made products. |
cheapdate |
Aug-12-11 09:42 PM |
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I do that in everything in my life. I will not go to a business that advertises |
beyurslf |
Aug-12-11 07:17 PM |
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K & R - and here I thought I was the only one, even though I knew I couldn't be. |
Raksha |
Aug-12-11 07:19 PM |
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Aug-12-11 07:25 PM |
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I limit my comment to Christians because that's really the only type of religion I have experience |
AlbertCat |
Aug-13-11 08:49 AM |
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Aug-13-11 06:26 PM |
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Every now and then someone writes about something |
Control-Z |
Aug-12-11 07:29 PM |
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Go for it! n/t |
backscatter712 |
Aug-12-11 08:50 PM |
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Matthew 6:5 |
MsPithy |
Aug-12-11 07:30 PM |
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I do not believe they are expecially "religious". I believe they see their |
annabanana |
Aug-12-11 07:40 PM |
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Yep. They want to impose Christian Sharia and make us all live The Handmaid's Tale. n/t |
backscatter712 |
Aug-12-11 08:51 PM |
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I laughed at the OP till I snorted. |
gauguin57 |
Aug-12-11 07:45 PM |
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Aug-12-11 07:46 PM |
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This is precisely why Rick Perry scares me to death. |
AngryOldDem |
Aug-12-11 07:47 PM |
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Will you vote for a Christian churchgoer who says that he does "a lot of praying" |
Nye Bevan |
Aug-12-11 08:04 PM |
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I almost always discriminate against the overtly religious in elections, |
kestrel91316 |
Aug-12-11 08:08 PM |
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I might make an exception for real Christians and similar believers |
Retrograde |
Aug-12-11 08:10 PM |
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Be careful! |
Creideiki |
Aug-12-11 08:53 PM |
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Right on. |
sarcasmo |
Aug-12-11 08:53 PM |
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I should have added: If you hear God speaking to you in your head, |
backscatter712 |
Aug-12-11 08:57 PM |
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I guess that makes me prejudiced too |
NightWatcher |
Aug-13-11 12:17 AM |
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Contrary to ideals of democracy to support ANY organized patriarchal religion, imo -- |
defendandprotect |
Aug-12-11 09:00 PM |
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Oral Roberts' son was saying that these people are hiding their |
gateley |
Aug-12-11 09:16 PM |
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Wasn't the tea party |
crunchie |
Aug-12-11 11:54 PM |
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I'm not sure of the genesis of the Tea Party, but at the very |
gateley |
Aug-13-11 09:47 PM |
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A Huge K&R |
avebury |
Aug-12-11 09:25 PM |
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K&R. n/t |
TriMera |
Aug-12-11 09:27 PM |
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You are not discriminating. They are openly proclaiming themselves to be TOTALLY unfit for office. |
on point |
Aug-12-11 10:13 PM |
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the roots of organized power hungry nutball religion, right here: http://youtu.be/HnrfuTUlqVs |
certainot |
Aug-12-11 10:36 PM |
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right here: |
certainot |
Aug-12-11 10:39 PM |
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I think Obama would violate at least one of your tests. In Feb, 2011 |
kelly1mm |
Aug-12-11 10:53 PM |
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There's a big part of the problem right there. |
The Doctor. |
Aug-12-11 10:54 PM |
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Rotten Brains |
domonkos |
Aug-12-11 11:24 PM |
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I'm confused. Is it the highly religious or only those that fit the criteria you list? |
lynne |
Aug-12-11 11:42 PM |
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including my pastors |
AlbertCat |
Aug-13-11 09:04 AM |
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Like I always say, I am voting for the President of all, not a National Pastor. |
Ruby the Liberal |
Aug-13-11 12:03 AM |
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newcomer eh? welcome! n/t |
upi402 |
Aug-13-11 01:00 AM |
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it seems very clear that you equate personal faith in a deity as being the same as the horrible |
Divine Discontent |
Aug-13-11 01:54 AM |
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And the FUNDAMENTALISTS are never you, your friends, or your church, are they? |
darkstar3 |
Aug-13-11 02:24 AM |
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laughable accusations |
Divine Discontent |
Aug-13-11 04:10 AM |
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laughable accusations |
AlbertCat |
Aug-13-11 09:16 AM |
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yawn |
Divine Discontent |
Aug-13-11 05:27 PM |
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What part of your beliefs ARE grounded in reality? |
cleanhippie |
Aug-13-11 11:33 AM |
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Fox News wuvs those types of candidates but freaks out over Jeremiah Wright? |
alp227 |
Aug-13-11 02:01 AM |
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That's how I live my daily life. |
Lucian |
Aug-13-11 02:05 AM |
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I don't care what religion someone is, as long as they don't try to change laws based on it or |
krabigirl |
Aug-13-11 02:26 AM |
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exactly! I don't think about a person's religion or lack thereof when deciding who to vote for |
Divine Discontent |
Aug-13-11 04:15 AM |
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Agreed 100%! But when a person states that their beliefs will guide them in their decisions... |
cleanhippie |
Aug-13-11 11:36 AM |
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I don't mind someone, if asked in running for office, answers a beliefs question, however, they |
Divine Discontent |
Aug-13-11 05:32 PM |
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Honestly, it really should be private, |
AlbertCat |
Aug-13-11 09:23 AM |
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It will be a wonderful day when this nation |
darkstar3 |
Aug-13-11 02:28 AM |
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LOL.... Fly my wicked monkeys! |
Veracious |
Aug-13-11 04:22 AM |
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Jesus is cool |
AlbertCat |
Aug-13-11 09:25 AM |
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And you've been diagnosed with what exactly? |
cordelia |
Aug-13-11 06:51 AM |
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Alerted? |
chervilant |
Aug-13-11 09:16 AM |
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It certainly is, especially when the religious display their bigotry so openly. |
cleanhippie |
Aug-13-11 11:37 AM |
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COUGH! Excuse me. Hard to keep a straight face. nt |
humblebum |
Aug-13-11 03:31 PM |
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I know, right! I do wonder just HOW you post the things you do with a straight face. |
cleanhippie |
Aug-13-11 03:40 PM |
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how did you arrive at that? not via logic. nt |
tomp |
Aug-13-11 06:57 AM |
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interesting definition of logic you have |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Aug-13-11 07:02 AM |
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"I will discriminate against you because you hold religious beliefs" |
AlbertCat |
Aug-13-11 09:29 AM |
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right...this posting slams religious beliefs of about 3 or 4 sects |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Aug-13-11 10:13 AM |
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churches that claim to have the one, only, and final word of god.... |
tomp |
Aug-13-11 06:55 AM |
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Remember this? |
Fred Engels |
Aug-13-11 07:56 PM |
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brilliant! thanks. nt |
tomp |
Aug-14-11 07:30 AM |
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Amen |
Hubert Flottz |
Aug-13-11 07:08 AM |
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Don't smear all religions........... |
WranglerRog |
Aug-13-11 07:47 AM |
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Which ones are those? |
cleanhippie |
Aug-13-11 02:28 PM |
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Your list is on the money.... but... |
AlbertCat |
Aug-13-11 07:49 AM |
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Prayer as a solution . . . |
astral |
Aug-13-11 09:33 AM |
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Yup, religion THRIVES on pain and suffering. |
LAGC |
Aug-13-11 09:37 AM |
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If this were a thread about voting third party, it would have been locked immediately |
demwing |
Aug-13-11 07:57 AM |
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I agree, however the stand against the hypocrisy of those interjecting |
harun |
Aug-13-11 08:11 AM |
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I'll take it a step further - IMO, Dems should embrace the PROGRESSIVE religious |
demwing |
Aug-13-11 08:23 AM |
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Many Liberals |
polmaven |
Aug-13-11 08:42 AM |
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Many Liberals DO look to oppress religion. |
AlbertCat |
Aug-13-11 09:35 AM |
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hmm... |
chervilant |
Aug-13-11 09:23 AM |
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There are unseen things you believe in too. |
harun |
Aug-13-11 09:41 AM |
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There are unseen things you believe in too. |
AlbertCat |
Aug-13-11 09:50 AM |
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Like what, exactly? |
cleanhippie |
Aug-13-11 02:31 PM |
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hmm... |
chervilant |
Aug-13-11 07:38 PM |
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Riiight. Because the religious inthis country are SOOOO persecuted. |
cleanhippie |
Aug-13-11 02:30 PM |
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And it's my opinion that hatetheists shouldn't hold office |
demwing |
Aug-13-11 08:09 AM |
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Excellent post. |
pintobean |
Aug-13-11 08:22 AM |
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Thank you, demwing... |
polmaven |
Aug-13-11 08:48 AM |
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"hatetheists" |
AlbertCat |
Aug-13-11 09:37 AM |
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You should pull your zipper up |
demwing |
Aug-13-11 09:55 AM |
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Even liberal religious sects thrive on pain and suffering. |
LAGC |
Aug-13-11 09:56 AM |
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Which is why Rev King was so invested in maintaining the status quo, right? |
demwing |
Aug-13-11 10:07 AM |
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He certainly wasn't a radical, and only wanted piecemeal reforms. |
LAGC |
Aug-13-11 10:24 AM |
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So you think MLK thrived on the suffering of the people? |
demwing |
Aug-13-11 10:51 AM |
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You tell me. |
LAGC |
Aug-13-11 10:58 AM |
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Easy - "No. MLK Did NOT 'Thrive' on Pain And Sufferring" |
demwing |
Aug-13-11 11:45 AM |
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MLK was a definitely great man who was needed at the time. |
LAGC |
Aug-13-11 01:27 PM |
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MLK was not great "in spite of " his religion, his activism was DEFINED by his faith... |
demwing |
Aug-13-11 03:22 PM |
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Well, to use your analogy... |
LAGC |
Aug-13-11 03:46 PM |
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That's a different debate - what we are talking about right here is whether MLK |
demwing |
Aug-13-11 04:30 PM |
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Well, excuse me for trying to steer the conversation back to the point of the OP, silly me. |
LAGC |
Aug-13-11 04:45 PM |
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You didn't imply anything, you wrote it outright |
demwing |
Aug-13-11 05:11 PM |
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Illogical. By that measure every people's movement leader qualifies |
Go2Peace |
Aug-13-11 12:37 PM |
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Thanks for the link. |
LAGC |
Aug-13-11 02:07 PM |
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Now that would be great. |
Go2Peace |
Aug-13-11 10:39 PM |
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An Angry Atheist is Exactly What America Needs! |
NoodleyAppendage |
Aug-13-11 10:01 AM |
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This! |
Go2Peace |
Aug-13-11 12:32 PM |
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hmm... |
chervilant |
Aug-13-11 09:09 AM |
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Aug-13-11 09:29 AM |
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dumb and bigoted! |
AlbertCat |
Aug-13-11 10:01 AM |
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K&R - I don't give a fuck WHAT religion someone is - just don't push it on me. |
HopeHoops |
Aug-13-11 09:44 AM |
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Love what backscatter712 says |
HelenWheels |
Aug-13-11 09:46 AM |
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Amen..... |
babsbunny |
Aug-13-11 09:47 AM |
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I agree 1000%!!!! |
CarrieLynne |
Aug-13-11 09:51 AM |
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RAMEN!!! |
NoodleyAppendage |
Aug-13-11 09:59 AM |
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I thought the purpose of DU was to help Democrats. This ain't doin' it. nt |
humblebum |
Aug-13-11 10:18 AM |
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Agreed, the apologists do NOT help Democrats in any way. |
cleanhippie |
Aug-13-11 11:56 AM |
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Aug-13-11 12:40 PM |
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At least you can recoginze that your own posts are trolling, mindless babble. |
cleanhippie |
Aug-13-11 03:43 PM |
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Smart folks the world over must get a grip and work much, much harder to |
ooglymoogly |
Aug-13-11 10:34 AM |
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Even when those zealots are radical atheists. nt |
humblebum |
Aug-13-11 01:21 PM |
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Yes, since those "radical athesists" are such a modern threat. |
cleanhippie |
Aug-13-11 03:47 PM |
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The problem is not the "religious" |
azureblue |
Aug-13-11 10:36 AM |
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re: "highly religious"...... Would JFK, RFK or Teddy have passed muster? |
hlthe2b |
Aug-13-11 10:37 AM |
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Or Jimmy Carter? n/t |
totodeinhere |
Aug-13-11 01:47 PM |
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k+r!! |
bobhuntsman |
Aug-13-11 10:37 AM |
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Saying god told you to run for office |
Warpy |
Aug-13-11 11:03 AM |
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I'm a proud ATHEIST |
penndragon69 |
Aug-13-11 11:22 AM |
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What is the difference between "highly" religious and just "regular" religious? |
cleanhippie |
Aug-13-11 11:55 AM |
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Oh, that's refreshing someone on DU admitting their bias up front. +1 |
patrice |
Aug-13-11 12:05 PM |
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I am against all tEaVangelIcaLs |
RobertSeattle |
Aug-13-11 12:20 PM |
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WITH you on that! They confuse others and themselves; that pretty much fits the definition of evil. |
patrice |
Aug-13-11 12:39 PM |
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What are those? |
cleanhippie |
Aug-13-11 02:34 PM |
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Many religious are "utterly deceived" blasphemers.They are mistaken about that which they proclaim. |
patrice |
Aug-13-11 12:28 PM |
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Dare I say, "Amen!" nt |
valerief |
Aug-13-11 12:34 PM |
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I agree with your analysis except that we need to make it clear that we have |
totodeinhere |
Aug-13-11 01:39 PM |
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Jimmy Carter? |
DissedByBush |
Aug-13-11 01:47 PM |
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Agree and Recommend as the loudly "religious" are just bullies with self-justification. |
Fire Walk With Me |
Aug-13-11 01:52 PM |
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I would discriminate against ALL religious |
Bonn1997 |
Aug-13-11 01:59 PM |
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K&R! |
inna |
Aug-13-11 02:44 PM |
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I guess the OP is not voting for Obama. n/t |
trud |
Aug-13-11 02:57 PM |
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I'm assuming you were not a supporter of Jimmy Carter, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton |
bluestateguy |
Aug-13-11 03:36 PM |
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Me too |
housewolf |
Aug-13-11 03:37 PM |
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The "highly religious" do tend to put the kibosh on the Enlightenment. (nt) |
KansDem |
Aug-13-11 04:11 PM |
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Agree...and wanted to rec but it was started |
marlakay |
Aug-13-11 09:18 PM |
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And I'll do the same as the O/P N/T |
tonekat |
Aug-13-11 10:49 PM |
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You mean highly Christian religious? Yea, you kinda do. |
Zax2me |
Aug-14-11 03:26 AM |
#259 |