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Fri Aug-12-11 07:38 AM
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| 1. I have been walking around for some years thinking |
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Edited on Fri Aug-12-11 07:39 AM by HillbillyBob
Robert A. Heinlein really was the 'Cracked Cassandra', he referred to this era as 'The Crazy Years' even projected the involvement of the religious right and the US knack for religious hysteria.
These particular brands of xtianity, far right of course are all hip on Armageddon (and possibly trying to bring it on)and the Rapture bullshit). The thought that any one of them with their finger on The Button...just sends me off into the dark....
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| -You know, in the country in which I was raised, Rick Perry and Michelle Bachmann would be . . . . |
Stinky The Clown |
Aug-12-11 07:31 AM |
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I have been walking around for some years thinking |
HillbillyBob |
Aug-12-11 07:38 AM |
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I agree with you HillbillyBob |
madokie |
Aug-12-11 07:44 AM |
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Love Heilein. Aldous Huxley as well. |
Greybnk48 |
Aug-12-11 07:55 AM |
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"Vulcan's Hammer" by Philip K. Dick (1960) was prescient as well.... |
mwb970 |
Aug-12-11 07:59 AM |
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That sounds like a winner. Thanks! |
Greybnk48 |
Aug-12-11 08:05 AM |
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This was the edition I read as a kid. It was a "double novel" paperback. |
mwb970 |
Aug-12-11 11:59 AM |
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Amazon has |
quarbis |
Aug-12-11 04:33 PM |
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Yeah, I saw it there. |
mwb970 |
Aug-12-11 06:43 PM |
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That is the pure, uncut stuffs.... |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-13-11 07:52 AM |
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I will have to pu a copy..I am a voracious reader..and have missed that one |
HillbillyBob |
Aug-12-11 08:08 AM |
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Excellent books all. |
MedicalAdmin |
Aug-12-11 10:42 AM |
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Read again Heinlein's "If This Goes On..." |
cactusfractal |
Aug-12-11 10:49 AM |
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Oh, just chill out and take your Soma. |
gauguin57 |
Aug-12-11 08:03 PM |
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+1 - These people are dangerous. n/t |
Scuba |
Aug-12-11 08:23 AM |
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I met Heinlein in the late 60's as teenager and got to talk to him and his brother. |
gordianot |
Aug-12-11 10:18 AM |
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I am seriously envious. |
MedicalAdmin |
Aug-12-11 10:44 AM |
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Be careful what you wish for. Writers can be among the most self-involved jerks around. |
Bette Noir |
Aug-12-11 12:15 PM |
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You don't know what you're talking about - |
RaleighNCDUer |
Aug-12-11 12:49 PM |
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LOL. True sometimes |
hifiguy |
Aug-12-11 01:55 PM |
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Heinlein and his brother were over grown kids wading the muck in the creek. |
gordianot |
Aug-12-11 02:32 PM |
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Neo-con? Heh, I don't really think so. |
PavePusher |
Aug-12-11 07:12 PM |
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The trying to bring it on is what really scares me about these people |
liberal N proud |
Aug-12-11 01:15 PM |
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The problem is |
itsnotaboutu |
Aug-13-11 12:50 AM |
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I've mostly recovered long ago but |
HillWilliam |
Aug-13-11 08:36 AM |
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You and me both Bob |
BobbyBoring |
Aug-12-11 02:55 PM |
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You got that right |
madokie |
Aug-12-11 07:39 AM |
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I've been alive since 1955, and I noticed the change with Reagan |
catbyte |
Aug-12-11 07:42 AM |
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I think that's when the former "Moonies" went mainstream. |
Greybnk48 |
Aug-12-11 08:02 AM |
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Buddah-boom! |
HillWilliam |
Aug-13-11 08:40 AM |
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That was when they started to come out of their churches onto the stage |
HillbillyBob |
Aug-12-11 08:06 AM |
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When I saw the transformation of a couple of my |
Greybnk48 |
Aug-12-11 08:12 AM |
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FYI The Sadducees |
USMCMustang |
Aug-12-11 10:21 AM |
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I remember growing up in this era and the religious crazies being marginalized |
Horse with no Name |
Aug-12-11 12:30 PM |
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I went to a "Holy Roller" summer camp once |
Art_from_Ark |
Aug-13-11 12:34 AM |
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I agree. Reagan put us into a steep decline, and we've never fixed it. |
mwb970 |
Aug-12-11 12:06 PM |
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I think it really started long before Raygun |
HillWilliam |
Aug-13-11 08:50 AM |
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Name removed |
Aug-12-11 04:43 PM |
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Pizza, please!! |
hifiguy |
Aug-12-11 05:10 PM |
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How do you remove God ? I thought he/she was all powerful? |
BlueJazz |
Aug-12-11 05:21 PM |
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Sorry Lenny, but your Xtian Crap is just that |
maheanuu |
Aug-12-11 05:39 PM |
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Just grasping at straws here, but isn't it partly due to the |
russspeakeasy |
Aug-12-11 10:34 AM |
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K & R. n/t |
FSogol |
Aug-12-11 07:41 AM |
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Yep. |
muffin1 |
Aug-12-11 07:51 AM |
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I can't believe the entire Republican Party is batshitcrazy. |
nc4bo |
Aug-12-11 07:59 AM |
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Well, both parties have been moving steadily to the right. |
muffin1 |
Aug-12-11 08:13 AM |
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It's more than that. It is a cataclysmic shift. |
Horse with no Name |
Aug-12-11 12:38 PM |
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I think you've got that backwards |
Art_from_Ark |
Aug-14-11 05:10 AM |
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Many of the old-line sensible Repubs were simply purged |
hifiguy |
Aug-12-11 08:58 AM |
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They ran all of the sane ones out in Florida. |
Fuddnik |
Aug-12-11 10:31 AM |
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Which is why we need to retake the local parties. |
MedicalAdmin |
Aug-12-11 10:48 AM |
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No, the current crop of Republicans is way beyond what was "fringe" in the '60s. |
Bette Noir |
Aug-12-11 12:35 PM |
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You got that right |
BobbyBoring |
Aug-12-11 03:00 PM |
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Is this because people CAN'T or because they WON'T see through the bullshit? |
patrice |
Aug-12-11 08:04 AM |
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You have the correct answer! The country has become dumber than ever! |
dmosh42 |
Aug-12-11 09:13 AM |
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There is a point at which the stupid could achieve critical mass. I personally don't believe we're |
patrice |
Aug-12-11 09:58 AM |
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P.S. But I do believe that point is FAST approaching. nt |
patrice |
Aug-12-11 10:01 AM |
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until the late 70's it was considered unseemly and fringe even in Evangelical circles |
Douglas Carpenter |
Aug-12-11 08:04 AM |
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More important is how can we turn it back? |
woodsprite |
Aug-12-11 08:18 AM |
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For one thing, drive wedges where you can... |
JHB |
Aug-12-11 09:33 AM |
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You could also point out the many, many violations of Christ's teachings by conservatives. |
mwb970 |
Aug-12-11 12:19 PM |
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Falwell and Robertson. nt |
hifiguy |
Aug-12-11 08:59 AM |
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How did it happen? One word - money. n/t |
MedicalAdmin |
Aug-12-11 10:51 AM |
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Silent majority becomes less of a majority and so becomes less silent. I think it is last gasp, |
Hissyspit |
Aug-12-11 05:23 PM |
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Great Post.....Welcome to The Future |
Armstead |
Aug-12-11 08:05 AM |
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I was just thinking the other day, that what is happening in |
EC |
Aug-12-11 01:57 PM |
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The Repub party is making a laughingstock of being Christian. |
woodsprite |
Aug-12-11 08:15 AM |
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I just thought with all of them saying God told them to run |
EC |
Aug-12-11 02:03 PM |
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I was a liberal Presbyterian too, |
dgibby |
Aug-12-11 02:05 PM |
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Yes, I remember those days and back then the Republican Party, |
Cleita |
Aug-12-11 08:21 AM |
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You nailed it |
get the red out |
Aug-12-11 08:35 AM |
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That cartoon song should be used by Jon Stewart |
Cleita |
Aug-12-11 08:41 AM |
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Crazy is IN. (nt) |
DirkGently |
Aug-12-11 08:43 AM |
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I started reading Stinky's OP... |
RevStPatrick |
Aug-12-11 08:46 AM |
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Reinforcing fanaticism and hate daily... |
moondust |
Aug-12-11 08:55 AM |
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I don't think Perry will go as far as some pundits think... |
ecstatic |
Aug-12-11 09:03 AM |
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i hope not, |
justabob |
Aug-12-11 10:29 AM |
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2nd |
krabigirl |
Aug-12-11 12:33 PM |
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I'm astonished by how fast it all went in the crapper |
CanonRay |
Aug-12-11 09:09 AM |
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Well Said, STC. |
Paladin |
Aug-12-11 09:14 AM |
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We are all capable of stopping it... |
MedicalAdmin |
Aug-12-11 11:15 AM |
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I think it's less religion and more "respect". They want the "respect" they don't get from us. |
FormerDittoHead |
Aug-12-11 09:17 AM |
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"Respect" This is insightful. |
patrice |
Aug-12-11 09:52 AM |
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They show ultimate disrespect for us by telling us we are abomination |
HillbillyBob |
Aug-12-11 10:21 AM |
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I know, HBB, because I do know them personally and have known them most of my life. |
patrice |
Aug-12-11 12:10 PM |
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My parents were Baptist, but I attended parochial schools |
catrose |
Aug-12-11 02:18 PM |
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I also can no longer recognize the USA. 50 years ago, people would be laughing their heads off at |
sinkingfeeling |
Aug-12-11 09:46 AM |
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Eisenhower may have fired a handgun. |
deaniac21 |
Aug-12-11 09:50 AM |
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True, but he never wore his old uniform as a civilian n/t |
eridani |
Aug-13-11 06:11 AM |
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In the country in which I was raised, Rick Perry and Michelle Bachmann would be . . . |
ChoppinBroccoli |
Aug-12-11 09:59 AM |
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They still would be unqualified to work at 7-11 |
Cleita |
Aug-12-11 10:08 AM |
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I think testing them for chemicals be it drugs or mercury is in order just to rule out those things. |
glinda |
Aug-12-11 10:07 AM |
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tests needed |
jbfam4 |
Aug-12-11 10:42 AM |
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That won't happen. |
glinda |
Aug-12-11 04:50 PM |
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My thoughts exactly. Why does anyone pay any attention to these nuts? |
joanbarnes |
Aug-12-11 10:24 AM |
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This is the fruit of "Triangulation". Most of the "mainstream" Republicans of old have repositioned |
Romulox |
Aug-12-11 10:24 AM |
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That's one of the biggest truths in this entire thread. |
Stinky The Clown |
Aug-12-11 05:55 PM |
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Indeed. All the Democrats became Republicans, and all the Republicans |
eridani |
Aug-13-11 06:12 AM |
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Today's NYT. "Rick Perry's Unanswered Prayers. |
Fuddnik |
Aug-12-11 10:25 AM |
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The evangelicals breed like rabbits |
NewJeffCT |
Aug-12-11 10:42 AM |
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I am believing religion is a disease |
kwolf68 |
Aug-12-11 10:54 AM |
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I can't tell you how many times I've thought the same thing. |
EFerrari |
Aug-12-11 10:57 AM |
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Funny you should mention that. After years of dreaming about "houses", I stopped for |
patrice |
Aug-12-11 12:17 PM |
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Stinky, I've lurked for years and always loved your posts and I couldn't agree more... |
progress2k12nbynd |
Aug-12-11 11:30 AM |
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"The Republican Party fears its base. The Democratic Party loathes its base." - David Frum |
Douglas Carpenter |
Aug-12-11 11:42 AM |
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That is the first intelligent thing I've heard from Frum. |
mochajava666 |
Aug-12-11 04:58 PM |
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Maybe God is taking a vacation and temporarily let Rod Serling take over. |
Kablooie |
Aug-12-11 12:08 PM |
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Oh, Stinky, you're spot on! |
Emit |
Aug-12-11 12:09 PM |
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It frightens me. |
Horse with no Name |
Aug-12-11 12:13 PM |
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So many families are so fucked up, make lots of mistakes in parenting, teachers are left |
patrice |
Aug-12-11 12:29 PM |
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Agreed. Teachers get left holding the bag for an entire fucked up society |
Horse with no Name |
Aug-12-11 12:33 PM |
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Yep! You have that right, HWNN!! The Amerikkkan Way! |
patrice |
Aug-12-11 12:40 PM |
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I also maintain there's a not insignificant Secessionist sub-strate there. Why else would Rick Perry |
patrice |
Aug-12-11 12:47 PM |
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I sincerely believe that it makes absolutely no difference |
irislake |
Aug-12-11 12:32 PM |
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And this is entirely because of the Koch funded DLC. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Aug-12-11 12:45 PM |
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Yep, many repukes are to the right of insanity these days... |
on point |
Aug-12-11 12:53 PM |
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They would have been run out of town for their extremisms |
liberal N proud |
Aug-12-11 01:19 PM |
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Reagan brought fundamentalism to the White House |
young_at_heart |
Aug-12-11 01:51 PM |
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Yep. And they invested in media consolidation, their own |
alsame |
Aug-12-11 02:17 PM |
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The only news media people I see, even saying they are |
EC |
Aug-12-11 02:13 PM |
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It might pay to bear in mind |
Doc Holliday |
Aug-12-11 04:04 PM |
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Perry did not create jobs, he REMOVED them from other states |
on point |
Aug-12-11 05:05 PM |
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Follow the money. The "nuts" are filling the media's pockets. |
RagAss |
Aug-12-11 04:45 PM |
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Actually it's an alternate universe switched on us while we slept. |
lunatica |
Aug-12-11 04:11 PM |
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If Adams and Franklin were alive today, tsk,tsk,tsk!!! n/t |
socialindependocrat |
Aug-12-11 04:42 PM |
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At the end of the last century, the rapturists crawled out of the woodwork. It was predicted. |
Major Hogwash |
Aug-12-11 04:59 PM |
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It is the Wal-Martization of America. Cheap, plastic cock-suckers have a chance now. |
callous taoboy |
Aug-12-11 05:07 PM |
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Interesting analysis. I'm a bit confused by your comparison though and view on religion/candidates |
alp227 |
Aug-12-11 05:45 PM |
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Actually their religion isn't that bad -- that's the problem |
DaveJ |
Aug-12-11 06:59 PM |
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BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO! eom. |
Hotler |
Aug-12-11 06:39 PM |
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K&R |
pleah |
Aug-12-11 06:41 PM |
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I remember that country... |
dash_bannon |
Aug-12-11 06:58 PM |
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Heinlein may have had better precognition than anyone knew... |
PavePusher |
Aug-12-11 07:05 PM |
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the more these types run, the more they become the norm |
spanone |
Aug-12-11 07:14 PM |
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already done that |
pleah |
Aug-12-11 07:31 PM |
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Fox News chief -they are running the show and everyone is reacting to them |
underpants |
Aug-12-11 07:35 PM |
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Rec #200 - You earned it, Stinky! |
Bozita |
Aug-12-11 08:25 PM |
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Reagan's Legacy. |
GeorgeGist |
Aug-12-11 09:14 PM |
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There has always been stupid... |
AlbertCat |
Aug-12-11 09:42 PM |
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I blame the media for instilling lunacy in us peons |
upi402 |
Aug-13-11 12:53 AM |
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They are both "dumb" which is a necessary quality for a winning GOP candidate. |
McCamy Taylor |
Aug-13-11 06:58 AM |
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Gee, Stink, I grew up watching George Wallace run for Pres. |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-13-11 07:46 AM |
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By your statement, I am a fan of Pat Buchannan. I resent your saying that. |
Stinky The Clown |
Aug-13-11 07:58 AM |
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The country in which we were raised no longer exists |
NMMNG |
Aug-13-11 07:53 AM |
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