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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 08:03 AM
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15. They have enough members to bring the government to a hault.
There is almost no way to negotiate with that. And no amount of leadership fixes it.

They know they can make him look bad by blocking everything. And that's all they are doing. There is no leading them.

Take any great leader, drop him on an island full of cannibals, and he's going to get eaten.

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  -I just heard a caller sum it up: Barack Obama's biggest problem is that when he won the election, mfcorey1  Aug-12-11 06:42 AM   #0 
  - Why would he have thought that? He had some familiarity with Washington. nt  Obamanaut   Aug-12-11 06:46 AM   #1 
  - NOT at the level of the Presidency.  mfcorey1   Aug-12-11 06:47 AM   #3 
     - I reread the OP. It does NOT mention any specific level, but just mentions  Obamanaut   Aug-12-11 06:56 AM   #7 
  - I'm not buying it....  vi5   Aug-12-11 06:47 AM   #2 
  - +1. n/t  FSogol   Aug-12-11 07:54 AM   #14 
  - Nearly every single speech of his I've seen he's asked the people to help him...  CJCRANE   Aug-12-11 06:49 AM   #4 
  - that must be it. Pres Obama is just a naive victim of circumstance, thrust  piratefish08   Aug-12-11 06:50 AM   #5 
  - If that's the case (and I don't think it is)  Le Taz Hot   Aug-12-11 06:53 AM   #6 
  - I knew this would bring out the love!  mfcorey1   Aug-12-11 07:00 AM   #8 
  - What did you expect  LaurenG   Aug-12-11 07:15 AM   # 
  - Obama's biggest problem is that he is not a leader  badtoworse   Aug-12-11 07:01 AM   #9 
  - That would make sense if he had the ability to fire the GOP.  JoePhilly   Aug-12-11 07:13 AM   #10 
  - Effectively dealing with opposition is part of leadership  badtoworse   Aug-12-11 07:37 AM   #13 
     - They have enough members to bring the government to a hault.  JoePhilly   Aug-12-11 08:03 AM   #15 
        - Irrelevent... there have been many presidents face oppositoin that had significant control.  OneTenthofOnePercent   Aug-12-11 08:13 AM   #16 
           - I remember welll how Bush was able to privatize social security...  Davis_X_Machina   Aug-12-11 10:48 AM   #20 
  - Obama didn't have anybody to lead  FarCenter   Aug-12-11 08:36 AM   #18 
     - Elderly and incompetent? The ones he's leading all agree with him  LaurenG   Aug-12-11 08:48 AM   #19 
        - Pelosi is elderly and incompetent  FarCenter   Aug-12-11 12:45 PM   #21 
           - Pelosi is the only one pushing things through.  LaurenG   Aug-12-11 01:14 PM   #22 
  - nor does common sense  madokie   Aug-12-11 07:15 AM   #11 
  - Saying Obama was delusional is not a great endorsement  Bluebear   Aug-12-11 07:23 AM   #12 
  - You're assuming that if he had not been delusional/innocent it would have made a difference. nt  patrice   Aug-12-11 08:14 AM   #17 
  - No, because as a typical candidate, he stated he was going to deliver the world  Javaman   Aug-12-11 01:25 PM   #23 
 

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