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melissaf Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 08:53 PM
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60. But Bert and Ernie aren't really adults.
They're kids, or at least kid like. (Yeah, they have their own apartment together. I think we're supposed to overlook that.) I think having gay adults on Sesame Street would be the way to go on this one. A "gay identity" is too complex for kids to understand at this age--they see people as people. If Bert and/or Ernie really have a gay identity, fine, but it doesn't have to be flagged as such. Being in a relationship is what adults do, and since Bert and Ernie aren't real adults, they should be left out of the gay marriage/relationship equation. Just introduce a gay human couple on Sesame Street. (Although hold onto your hats if anyone ever tried to do that. The Right-wing nutzis would go bonkers.)
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  -"...they remain puppets, and do not have a sexual orientation..." Amerigo Vespucci  Aug-11-11 05:19 PM   #0 
  - Good for them  DJ13   Aug-11-11 05:23 PM   #1 
  - Yes we must anthromorphise everything on the planet lest we  Rex   Aug-11-11 05:24 PM   #2 
  - Yet you seem to be implying that projecting a gay relationship onto 2 puppets, even humorously  Warren DeMontague   Aug-11-11 11:39 PM   #18 
     - Not at all.  Rex   Aug-12-11 12:18 AM   #25 
        - Okay, you weren't being intentionally meta-ironic. Fine.  Warren DeMontague   Aug-12-11 02:26 AM   #27 
           - You're reading way into the muppets and not enough into the planet.  Rex   Aug-12-11 03:13 PM   #31 
              - Maybe I'm just not seeing the connection.  Warren DeMontague   Aug-12-11 05:26 PM   #32 
                 - I agree completely.  Rex   Aug-12-11 06:19 PM   #34 
  - Leave them alone...years ago some wingnut preacher was calling for eternal damnation for PBS  joeybee12   Aug-11-11 05:26 PM   #3 
  - I always thought they were brothers.  amyrose2712   Aug-11-11 05:39 PM   #4 
  - I did too  Bettie   Aug-11-11 11:48 PM   #20 
  - While I agree, there are a few questions I must ask  CBGLuthier   Aug-11-11 05:45 PM   #5 
  - I have a great joke about miss piggy & kermit.  William769   Aug-11-11 05:48 PM   #6 
  - No it's not  RC   Aug-11-11 05:55 PM   #8 
  - How bad is it?  Duende azul   Aug-11-11 07:19 PM   #9 
     - I'd answer you  FloridaJudy   Aug-12-11 10:05 PM   #77 
  - Well, we know what the Count has been doing....  woo me with science   Aug-11-11 07:22 PM   #10 
  - LOL!  tammywammy   Aug-11-11 07:30 PM   #12 
  - What was up with Forgetful Jones and that bad short term memory?  EFerrari   Aug-11-11 11:58 PM   #23 
  - With all the unemployment in this country  gratuitous   Aug-11-11 05:49 PM   #7 
  - But aren't Ms. Piggy and Kermit str8?  originalpckelly   Aug-11-11 07:27 PM   #11 
  - But, as someone pointed out, Bert has a unibrow. Gay men would have tweezed that.  applegrove   Aug-11-11 10:52 PM   #13 
  - I don't care if Bert and Ernie are gay or just best friends/roomies  True Blue Democrat   Aug-11-11 11:14 PM   #14 
  - For Pete's sake.. It's a show aimed at toddlers  SoCalDem   Aug-11-11 11:22 PM   #15 
  - Orientation isn't sex.  LeftyMom   Aug-11-11 11:36 PM   #17 
  - just that little kids recognize "friend", and probably do not think "sex"  SoCalDem   Aug-11-11 11:49 PM   #21 
  - There are several hetero relationships depicted on the show, including muppets.  LeftyMom   Aug-11-11 11:56 PM   #22 
  - never said it was.. (  SoCalDem   Aug-12-11 12:04 AM   #24 
  - Little kids recognize their parents are in a relationship  Creideiki   Aug-12-11 12:19 PM   #30 
  - But Bert and Ernie aren't really adults.  melissaf   Aug-12-11 08:53 PM   #60 
  - Oh! Lets not offend Right-wing nutzis!  Vanje   Aug-12-11 09:00 PM   #65 
  - Other muppets on the show have hetero relationships.  LeftyMom   Aug-12-11 09:21 PM   #71 
  - wish I could rec your post.  Maine-ah   Aug-12-11 10:02 PM   #76 
  - Love your "many faces of Bachmann" panel.  gauguin57   Aug-12-11 07:41 PM   #36 
  - I love that line that you quoted in the subject...  TheWraith   Aug-11-11 11:26 PM   #16 
  - If they were Teletubbies, of course...  Silent3   Aug-11-11 11:41 PM   #19 
  - Heaven forfend there EVER be a wedding or demonstration of sexual orientation!  Behind the Aegis   Aug-12-11 01:43 AM   #26 
  - And this, ladies and germs, is the news in America  TK421   Aug-12-11 02:27 AM   #28 
  - Fuck the lack of jobs in this country...fuck the economy...fuck the wars we want to end  TK421   Aug-12-11 02:32 AM   #29 
  - ha ha. love the answers. morons, they are puppets to entertain little kids. sexual orientation  seabeyond   Aug-12-11 05:34 PM   #33 
  - Why is sexual orientation "perverted" when its same sex.....  Vanje   Aug-12-11 08:10 PM   #38 
  - bah haha. ya, right, that is what i said. they are puppets. non sexual. puppets.  seabeyond   Aug-12-11 08:21 PM   #39 
  - One minor point--not on the "perversion" thing,  melissaf   Aug-12-11 09:02 PM   #66 
  - Why "pervered"? Does a gay relationship sexualize muppets in a way a hetero relationship doesn't?  fishwax   Aug-12-11 08:44 PM   #53 
     - they are puppets. it is a little kid show. no sex. the perverted is trying to sexualize  seabeyond   Aug-12-11 08:48 PM   #56 
        - Then why is showing characters who are gay different from showing a married hetero couple?  fishwax   Aug-12-11 08:50 PM   #59 
           - who said it was fishwax. the people that made the show said they are puppets  seabeyond   Aug-12-11 08:57 PM   #63 
              - well, *you* said it was "dumbshit, perverted adults" suggesting that Bert and Ernie may be gay  fishwax   Aug-12-11 09:21 PM   #72 
                 - and my point is toddlers... leave there world alone. like making tinky winky gay.  seabeyond   Aug-12-11 09:26 PM   #74 
  - What I learned from this DU thread:  Vanje   Aug-12-11 07:39 PM   #35 
  - Fucking unreal, isn't it?  LeftyMom   Aug-12-11 07:51 PM   #37 
     - really? really? so cause i did not see bert and earnie in a relationship, i am homophobic? nt  seabeyond   Aug-12-11 08:25 PM   #41 
     - Guilty conscience? I wasn't talking to you. nt  LeftyMom   Aug-12-11 08:31 PM   #43 
     - ha ha. right. you know anything about my life and the people in it?  seabeyond   Aug-12-11 08:33 PM   #44 
        - You're still laboring under the delusion that I was talking to or about you.  LeftyMom   Aug-12-11 08:39 PM   #48 
     - Are you?  Vanje   Aug-12-11 08:37 PM   #47 
        - what in this thread is making the poster suggest so many are homophobic?  seabeyond   Aug-12-11 08:42 PM   #52 
     - So those of us who don't think Ernie and Bert should declare their sexuality are now homophobes? nt  Nye Bevan   Aug-12-11 08:41 PM   #51 
  - Sometimes a puppet is just a puppet...  Dappleganger   Aug-12-11 08:25 PM   #40 
  - Bert's too crabby sometimes. Ernie has a sunny personality. He should hang with Tinky-Winky.  gauguin57   Aug-12-11 08:29 PM   #42 
  - I watched Sesame Street during the Odd Couple era, and  closeupready   Aug-12-11 08:35 PM   #45 
  - Kermit and Miss Piggy appear to have a (hetero)sexual orientation  fishwax   Aug-12-11 08:36 PM   #46 
  - i havent seen the show but asking son about these two. he says hasnt seen them living together  seabeyond   Aug-12-11 08:40 PM   #50 
  - well, they were married in one of the movies  fishwax   Aug-12-11 08:47 PM   #54 
  - kids never saw the movies. and i was trying to think of any of the puppets on  seabeyond   Aug-12-11 08:50 PM   #58 
  - Oscar the grouch has a girlfriend, for one  fishwax   Aug-12-11 08:54 PM   #61 
     - never saw a GF. there is a female grouch. but again, didnt know GF  seabeyond   Aug-12-11 08:59 PM   #64 
  - IT HAS NOTHING TO DO with  Vanje   Aug-12-11 09:05 PM   #67 
     - agreed (I was going for understatement)  fishwax   Aug-12-11 09:22 PM   #73 
  - just talked to youngest son. bert is his hero. i didnt know that. bert and ernie  seabeyond   Aug-12-11 08:47 PM   #55 
     - what does "getting it on" have to do with it?  fishwax   Aug-12-11 08:48 PM   #57 
     - sigh. i thought this was another rw attack on a little kids show about conditioning little kids  seabeyond   Aug-12-11 08:55 PM   #62 
     - IT DOES"NT HAVE A GODDAM thing TO DO with  Vanje   Aug-12-11 09:08 PM   #68 
        - oh whatever. i only read the part of... puppets... no sexual orientation. i heard some rwer  seabeyond   Aug-12-11 09:12 PM   #69 
  - Cross-species romance.  InvisibleTouch   Aug-12-11 09:52 PM   #75 
  - Everyone should leave them alone. Tinky Winky was very traumatized by this kind of speculation.  Nye Bevan   Aug-12-11 08:39 PM   #49 
  - Just because they have someone's hand stuck up inside them does not make them  gort   Aug-12-11 09:16 PM   #70 
 

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