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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:23 PM
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21. not to be a party pooper but they also say a large reason is not enough spending cuts (singling out
entitlement cuts many times. (their words, not mine, so please don't shoot the messenger)

1 'The outlook on the long-term rating is negative. We could lower the
long-term rating to 'AA' within the next two years if we see that less
reduction in spending than agreed to, higher interest rates, or new
fiscal pressures during the period result in a higher general government
debt trajectory than we currently assume in our base case.


2 'We lowered our long-term rating on the U.S. because we believe that the
prolonged controversy over raising the statutory debt ceiling and the related
fiscal policy debate indicate that further near-term progress containing the
growth in public spending, especially on entitlements, or on reaching an
agreement on raising revenues is less likely than we previously assumed and
will remain a contentious and fitful process.
We also believe that the fiscal
consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration agreed to this week
falls short of the amount that we believe is necessary to stabilize the
general government debt burden by the middle of the decade.'


3 Despite this year's wide-ranging debate, in our
view, the differences between political parties have proven to be
extraordinarily difficult to bridge, and, as we see it, the resulting
agreement fell well short of the comprehensive fiscal consolidation program
that some proponents had envisaged until quite recently. Republicans and
Democrats have only been able to agree to relatively modest savings on
discretionary spending while delegating to the Select Committee decisions on
more comprehensive measures.
It appears that for now, new revenues have
dropped down on the menu of policy options. In addition, the plan envisions
only minor policy changes on Medicare and little change in other entitlements,
the containment of which we and most other independent observers regard as key
to long-term fiscal sustainability.


4 Standard & Poor's takes no position on the mix of spending and revenue
measures that Congress and the Administration might conclude is appropriate
for putting the U.S.'s finances on a sustainable footing.


As long as a Tobin tax on all financial turnover (with the first $1 million exempted) is not put into place, as long as the empire continues to have multiple, unsustainable war fronts (Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Libya, Somalia, with more to come IMHO) and the police state is ramped up more and more (the two cost at least $1.2 trillion a year), there will never be a reduction in the debt, and the US dollar will go to the dustbin of history, as have all fiat currencies before it.

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  -"We have changed our assumption on this because the majority of REPUBLICANS in Congress... Poll_Blind  Aug-07-11 04:30 PM   #0 
  - Proud to be the first to K&R!  Rex   Aug-07-11 04:32 PM   #1 
  - The infamous "math error" making the rounds  Ruby the Liberal   Aug-07-11 04:33 PM   #2 
  - Agreed. Whatever political avenues might have been available Friday are nolonger available.  Poll_Blind   Aug-07-11 04:43 PM   #3 
     - Another uphill battle I tried to fight  Ruby the Liberal   Aug-07-11 05:14 PM   #7 
        - I want to make a point of saying that they're not innocent in my eyes. However, while...  Poll_Blind   Aug-07-11 05:20 PM   #8 
  - SCREAM IT...they do not want to acknowledge this...  Drahthaardogs   Aug-07-11 04:48 PM   #4 
  - If you happen to have news talk radio locally, give 'em a call, enlighten them. C-Span calls...  Poll_Blind   Aug-07-11 04:58 PM   #6 
  - K&R  Fire1   Aug-07-11 04:51 PM   #5 
  - K&R because the MEdia will not report it.  deminks   Aug-07-11 05:27 PM   #9 
  - When we know the media will not report it would it be a good idea  jwirr   Aug-07-11 06:38 PM   #11 
  - Looks like S&P is not buying the Repugs unrelenting chant that it not a revenue problem, it is a  indepat   Aug-07-11 06:18 PM   #10 
  - Yup. Further evidence the G.O.P. is full of S.H.I.T. n/t  Poll_Blind   Aug-08-11 11:25 AM   #15 
  - Included that quote in a letter to the editor this morning...  spedtr90   Aug-07-11 07:09 PM   #12 
  - Good!  Poll_Blind   Aug-07-11 09:20 PM   #13 
  - Good morning! It's STILL their fucking fault!  Poll_Blind   Aug-08-11 09:30 AM   #14 
  - Darn tootin', Poll_blind!  FredStembottom   Aug-08-11 01:38 PM   #16 
  - It's good no deal was struck to extend the bush tax cuts  mmonk   Aug-08-11 01:46 PM   #17 
  - I have to wonder how many millionaires  Turbineguy   Aug-08-11 02:44 PM   #18 
  - That would sound great read out loud from a Bully Pulpit...  Bluenorthwest   Aug-08-11 02:45 PM   #19 
  - Rachel Maddow didn't even mention this yesterday on Meet the Press.  Major Hogwash   Aug-08-11 02:59 PM   #20 
  - not to be a party pooper but they also say a large reason is not enough spending cuts (singling out  stockholmer   Aug-08-11 03:23 PM   #21 
  - The "assumption" they changed was on the Bush tax cuts expiring. Be specific. This is what the  fishbulb703   Aug-08-11 03:27 PM   #22 
  - Revenues  Johnny2X2X   Aug-08-11 03:33 PM   #23 
  - If this results in a double-digit recession, we must call it a "Tea Party Recession!"  skip fox   Aug-08-11 03:33 PM   #24 
  - Workin' on it. Thank you for pointing this out. n/t  stubtoe   Aug-08-11 06:11 PM   #25 

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