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147. But he was in fact unelectable....cause he withdrew from the race
hard to argue that point.
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  -And to think that so many of you were against Dennis Kucinich in 2008. stevedeshazer  Aug-06-11 03:39 PM   #0 
  - I was never against Dennis Kucinich.  RebelOne   Aug-06-11 03:43 PM   #1 
  - I voted for him in 2008 after he already dropped out.  bananas   Aug-06-11 03:51 PM   #11 
     - So did I.  begin_within   Aug-06-11 04:10 PM   #26 
     - I did exactly the same thing in WA State. eom  frebrd   Aug-06-11 04:48 PM   #48 
     - Me, too.  Iggo   Aug-07-11 11:12 AM   #134 
  - well, the peevish unrec was right on cue, too!  villager   Aug-06-11 03:43 PM   #2 
  - I expect it.  stevedeshazer   Aug-06-11 03:44 PM   #3 
     - Rec'd to counter the unrec!n/t  BuelahWitch   Aug-06-11 04:36 PM   #42 
  - He was never a serious candidate. nt  tritsofme   Aug-06-11 03:44 PM   #4 
  - What does it require to be a serious candidate in today's Democratic Party?  stevedeshazer   Aug-06-11 03:48 PM   #7 
  - Kucinich was a vanity candiate. He never had a path to the nomination.  tritsofme   Aug-06-11 03:49 PM   #9 
  - Or ca$h. n/t  stevedeshazer   Aug-06-11 03:51 PM   #13 
  - Whatever, he did not wage serious bids for the nomination.  tritsofme   Aug-06-11 03:58 PM   # 
     - You are so wrong. Serious donors don't back someone who will stand for the people  cui bono   Aug-07-11 02:54 AM   #83 
        - Populist candidates aren't going to get corpoate $$ ... which is a good clue ....  defendandprotect   Aug-07-11 03:20 AM   #93 
        - And how much he plans to take in for 2012!!!  cui bono   Aug-07-11 04:03 AM   #96 
           - Liberals are a huge voting bloc -- this is a liberal nation --- we need a populist candidate ...  defendandprotect   Aug-07-11 01:26 PM   #171 
        - It's always interesting..  disillusioned73   Aug-07-11 08:51 AM   #108 
        - He did not plan to win the nomination.  tritsofme   Aug-07-11 11:47 AM   #148 
           - The only plan he had...  bvar22   Aug-08-11 10:23 AM   #208 
  - Actualy he had a path  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-06-11 04:00 PM   #20 
  - Do tell, the reasonable scenario where a vanity candidate like Kucinich wins 2024 delegates  tritsofme   Aug-06-11 04:03 PM   #21 
     - And it is also the common view that anybody to the left of Obama  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-06-11 04:06 PM   #23 
     - Public financing won't foist your favored candidate upon the nation.  tritsofme   Aug-06-11 04:10 PM   #25 
     - Yes he was... but alas that is another story  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-06-11 04:16 PM   #30 
     - nice? You're being polite...  awoke_in_2003   Aug-09-11 07:27 PM   #215 
     - You are framing this completely wrong. It's not that he was not waging a real candidacy.  cui bono   Aug-07-11 02:57 AM   #84 
     - The Iowa plains dealer  kenfrequed   Aug-07-11 12:04 PM   #154 
     - Yep. They won't let him in because they don't want his message to be heard.  cui bono   Aug-07-11 12:10 PM   #157 
     - Yup.  UnrepentantLiberal   Aug-07-11 01:09 PM   # 
     - Yup.  UnrepentantLiberal   Aug-07-11 01:09 PM   #167 
     - That's not the point of public financing. The point of such a system is to pull the center back.  Selatius   Aug-07-11 04:59 AM   #100 
     - Great, you vote based on charisma and attractiveness. WTF are  coalition_unwilling   Aug-07-11 09:30 AM   #114 
     - If you don't think those are incredibly important and relevant attributes  tritsofme   Aug-07-11 11:44 AM   #146 
        - Color me stupid and naive then. But methinks it's the attitudes of the American  coalition_unwilling   Aug-07-11 06:15 PM   #195 
     - OMG!  chervilant   Aug-07-11 12:12 PM   #158 
        - Being a Kucinich groupie is shockingly not a prerequisite for being a Democrat.  tritsofme   Aug-07-11 12:22 PM   #160 
           - And,  chervilant   Aug-07-11 12:34 PM   #162 
              - What exactly did you refute again?  tritsofme   Aug-07-11 12:40 PM   #163 
                 - Sigh...  chervilant   Aug-07-11 12:58 PM   #165 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-07-11 08:58 PM   #200 
     - + 1000%  sabrina 1   Aug-06-11 04:43 PM   #45 
     - Plus another 10000!!! PUBLIC FINANCING...  Desertrose   Aug-07-11 11:43 AM   #145 
     - Unfortunately, Obama was taken seriously ... !! How much corporate $$$ did he take in???  defendandprotect   Aug-07-11 03:22 AM   #94 
        - here are just a few  INdemo   Aug-07-11 03:38 PM   #190 
           - Thank you -- always sad to see it -- but good to know -- I also have Open Secrets plugged in -- !!  defendandprotect   Aug-08-11 01:53 AM   #206 
  - Well, maybe that's something we need to start questioning.  sabrina 1   Aug-06-11 04:41 PM   #44 
  - What you mean is he had no Corporate $$$$$$$$$ backing -- !!!  defendandprotect   Aug-07-11 03:19 AM   #92 
  - A billion-dollar war chest and a propaganda machine that can rehabilitate even Bush's image. nt  Selatius   Aug-07-11 05:10 AM   #101 
  - Nope, all it takes the MSM saying he/she is.  obxhead   Aug-07-11 11:05 AM   #130 
  - Kucinich barely raised any money from anybody, period...  Hippo_Tron   Aug-07-11 11:37 AM   #141 
  - Our corporate MSM decides who we are allowed to vote for.  dotymed   Aug-07-11 02:37 PM   #185 
  - Oh, he was a serious candidate  izquierdista   Aug-06-11 04:22 PM   #37 
  - !!!!!!  bvar22   Aug-08-11 10:28 AM   #209 
  - he was the only serious candidate. nt  tomp   Aug-07-11 09:21 AM   #110 
  - +100 nt  slipslidingaway   Aug-07-11 10:05 AM   #124 
  - WTF? - n/t  coalition_unwilling   Aug-07-11 09:26 AM   #112 
  - Serious as a fucking heart attack!  pocoloco   Aug-07-11 01:53 PM   #173 
  - Peevish Unrec...nt  SidDithers   Aug-06-11 03:47 PM   #5 
  - Appreciate your honesty.  stevedeshazer   Aug-06-11 03:49 PM   #8 
  - I really wasn't going to, until reading the smarmy comment in post #2...  SidDithers   Aug-06-11 03:51 PM   #12 
     - would you vote for him? nt  tomp   Aug-07-11 09:22 AM   #111 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-07-11 09:06 PM   #201 
  - Have you noticved some posters at DU have sh* t for brains and never offer an substance?  PufPuf23   Aug-08-11 01:45 AM   #205 
  - Damn shame,  MuseRider   Aug-06-11 03:47 PM   #6 
  - .  dionysus   Aug-06-11 03:50 PM   #10 
  - Unsuited For Office  boppers   Aug-06-11 03:51 PM   #14 
  - So, I'm "hallucinating" and "dangerous?"  stevedeshazer   Aug-06-11 03:55 PM   #16 
  - Do you believe space aliens are visiting the planet?  boppers   Aug-06-11 04:41 PM   #43 
     - Explain.  stevedeshazer   Aug-06-11 06:07 PM   #70 
     - Oh, OK.  stevedeshazer   Aug-06-11 10:42 PM   #80 
     - Why do you ask that? Do you think Kucinich believes that? If so, link?  cui bono   Aug-07-11 03:01 AM   #85 
  - Like believing Christ died and came back to life three days later?  muffin1   Aug-06-11 04:21 PM   #34 
  - More like believing "Christ died and came back to life"... in *your* house.  boppers   Aug-06-11 04:52 PM   #54 
  - Does marujuana cause ovedose deaths?  U4ikLefty   Aug-06-11 04:21 PM   #36 
  - Like People Who Have Prayer Meetings For Sky Daddy?  we can do it   Aug-06-11 04:25 PM   #38 
  - In a consensual reality, yes.  boppers   Aug-06-11 04:54 PM   #56 
  - Oh please Obama is a Christian.  white_wolf   Aug-06-11 04:50 PM   #50 
  - Jefferson was a christian too.  boppers   Aug-06-11 04:56 PM   #57 
     - Jefferson was a deist not a Christian.  white_wolf   Aug-06-11 07:06 PM   #79 
        - Jesus was a pre-Marxist Commie. Of course, there are Christians  coalition_unwilling   Aug-07-11 09:34 AM   #116 
  - Yet people who claim to communicate with magical spirits in the sky are totally reasonable  MouseFitzgerald   Aug-06-11 04:52 PM   #53 
  - Do you see a difference between:  boppers   Aug-06-11 05:15 PM   #61 
  - When did Kucinich claim that the UFO was god?  MouseFitzgerald   Aug-06-11 05:25 PM   #63 
  - Both perspectives lack sanity.  boppers   Aug-06-11 05:41 PM   #66 
     - In a Universe with more galaxies than the Earth has grains of sand  TheKentuckian   Aug-06-11 05:51 PM   #67 
     - By the numbers:  boppers   Aug-06-11 06:34 PM   #75 
     - We simply cannot forecast the outer limits of technological capability.  Selatius   Aug-07-11 05:22 AM   #102 
     - Also, there has been no Isaac Newton of biology to prove decisively  coalition_unwilling   Aug-07-11 09:47 AM   #120 
     - What is the upper limit of technology? Why would you compare a world rich with life with the moon?  TheKentuckian   Aug-07-11 09:45 AM   #119 
     - Interesting questions:  boppers   Aug-08-11 01:00 AM   #204 
     - Hey Boppers if you think marijuana overdoses exist...try proving it!!!  U4ikLefty   Aug-07-11 07:11 PM   #199 
     - The statistical odds are stacked highly in favor of them existing, based  coalition_unwilling   Aug-07-11 09:43 AM   #118 
     - Err UFO's are real  kenfrequed   Aug-07-11 12:22 PM   #159 
     - So...  chervilant   Aug-07-11 12:23 PM   #161 
  - Bull shit  stevedeshazer   Aug-06-11 06:12 PM   #71 
  - You are confusing UFO with actual alien beings. Do you not know what UFO stands for?  cui bono   Aug-07-11 03:05 AM   #86 
  - I Believe In Santa Claus, God and the Easter Bunny. Charlie Brown, the Great Pumpkin  we can do it   Aug-07-11 08:44 AM   #107 
  - OT a bit, but I read somewhere that 70% of Americans believe  coalition_unwilling   Aug-07-11 09:40 AM   #117 
  - Because?  WinkyDink   Aug-07-11 04:51 AM   #98 
  - I don't discount his ideas  Generic Brad   Aug-06-11 03:53 PM   #15 
  - Fair enough.  stevedeshazer   Aug-06-11 03:56 PM   #17 
  - I would love to see him run for Senate  DonCoquixote   Aug-06-11 03:58 PM   #18 
  - +1  harun   Aug-07-11 11:08 AM   #132 
  - To think so many of them still are.  Bluenorthwest   Aug-06-11 04:00 PM   #19 
  - Dennis has the misfortune of being correct in a time when being correct is punished.  stevedeshazer   Aug-06-11 04:13 PM   #28 
  - It's not productive for us to blame each other when the selection  EFerrari   Aug-06-11 04:05 PM   #22 
  - True.  stevedeshazer   Aug-06-11 04:17 PM   #31 
     - Yup. And instead of getting sucked into a pissing contest  EFerrari   Aug-06-11 05:02 PM   #58 
        - +1  stevedeshazer   Aug-06-11 06:18 PM   #73 
  - Most of us here were smart enough to be FOR Kucinich.  bvar22   Aug-06-11 04:09 PM   #24 
  - I remember that.  stevedeshazer   Aug-06-11 04:28 PM   #40 
  - persona non grata...  bvar22   Aug-06-11 05:04 PM   #60 
  - That's what I'm talkin' about!  stevedeshazer   Aug-06-11 06:04 PM   #69 
  - His proposal for a cabinet-level Department of Peace devoted to  coalition_unwilling   Aug-07-11 09:57 AM   #122 
  - Not with me, he's not. I actually saw Kucinich speak in person  coalition_unwilling   Aug-07-11 09:54 AM   #121 
  - Note the two POPULIST candidates -- Kucinich and Edwards -- were leading ....  defendandprotect   Aug-07-11 03:17 AM   #90 
     - Edwards had a STRONG message with the "Two Americas".  bvar22   Aug-07-11 09:32 AM   #115 
     - Me, too.  stevedeshazer   Aug-07-11 11:48 AM   #150 
     - True -- that's very frustrating with Obama/Dems ... re homeless, poor, uninsured ....  defendandprotect   Aug-07-11 02:16 PM   #178 
     - It was a self-reporting poll on DU, for Christ's sake  Richardo   Aug-07-11 11:43 AM   #144 
        - True -- I'm saying ... this is a liberal nation ---  defendandprotect   Aug-07-11 02:17 PM   #180 
  - yeah, well...  pipi_k   Aug-06-11 04:11 PM   #27 
  - I don't disagree with your premise.  stevedeshazer   Aug-06-11 04:32 PM   #41 
  - the UFO thing lost him a lot of votes  JI7   Aug-06-11 04:15 PM   #29 
  - Well, I've seen UFO's too.  stevedeshazer   Aug-06-11 04:19 PM   #33 
     - At least we SAW them (with our own 'stunned' eyes) =D  Amonester   Aug-07-11 11:23 AM   #135 
  - I don't think it was an issue of against.  Zax2me   Aug-06-11 04:18 PM   #32 
  - Well, he's not a Senator.  stevedeshazer   Aug-06-11 04:21 PM   #35 
  - According to blind polling he is most in line with what Americans want.  cui bono   Aug-07-11 03:14 AM   #87 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-06-11 04:28 PM   #39 
  - No  MouseFitzgerald   Aug-06-11 04:54 PM   #55 
  - Nice try.  stevedeshazer   Aug-06-11 06:17 PM   #72 
  - Nice try...not.  bvar22   Aug-06-11 06:41 PM   #77 
  - Dennis  90-percent   Aug-06-11 04:45 PM   #46 
  - kucinich would've gotten less than 40% in a national election  scheming daemons   Aug-06-11 04:48 PM   #47 
  - Unfortunately, he is un-electable nt  bowens43   Aug-06-11 04:49 PM   #49 
  - Why is that unfortunate? nt  boppers   Aug-06-11 05:16 PM   #62 
  - How can you ask that? Clearly you know nothing about him. n/t  cui bono   Aug-07-11 03:16 AM   #89 
  - Why?  stevedeshazer   Aug-06-11 06:20 PM   #74 
     - I'll lay it out for you.  Saxon   Aug-07-11 02:29 PM   #181 
  - I would argue that Mike Gravel was also right  Blue_In_AK   Aug-06-11 04:50 PM   #51 
  - Shit, in the lead-up to 2004, Rev. Al Sharpton gave some of the best speeches  coalition_unwilling   Aug-07-11 10:03 AM   #123 
  - It's kind of irrelevant that he was right. He's unelectable. It's that basic.  cali   Aug-06-11 04:52 PM   #52 
  - ...and yet, America still slept.  flvegan   Aug-06-11 05:02 PM   #59 
  - I'm just hoping he doesn't run in Washington state. I'm against him still.  quiller4   Aug-06-11 05:29 PM   #64 
  - Your loss.  LWolf   Aug-07-11 10:00 PM   #202 
  - I wasn't for him then and I wouldn't vote for him now. n/t  Fire1   Aug-06-11 05:37 PM   #65 
  - Dennis is awesome  loyalsister   Aug-06-11 05:56 PM   #68 
  - Um, no. Bachman is a know nothing lunatic. Stop smearing Kucinich.  cui bono   Aug-07-11 03:18 AM   #91 
     - I was talking about the flip side  loyalsister   Aug-07-11 09:27 AM   #113 
        - The media marginalizes Dennis but he isn't "the flip side" of anything.  EFerrari   Aug-07-11 11:48 AM   #149 
           - Methods and details.....  loyalsister   Aug-07-11 01:36 PM   #172 
              - Straw man. Or rather, men. n/t  EFerrari   Aug-07-11 02:11 PM   #176 
  - I wasn't against Kucinich, per se; I was against letting John McCain win in a landslide.  ColesCountyDem   Aug-06-11 06:38 PM   #76 
  - And who but the GOP has "won" over these las three years of Obama/DLC Rahm???  defendandprotect   Aug-07-11 03:24 AM   #95 
     - You're entitled to your opinion, of course, as am I.  ColesCountyDem   Aug-07-11 10:29 AM   #127 
        - And you think that Democrats and Obama "won" in this last go around ... ?  defendandprotect   Aug-07-11 01:18 PM   #168 
           - I've never said anything of the kind.  ColesCountyDem   Aug-07-11 03:23 PM   #189 
              - That's why there's a ? at the end of the question ---  defendandprotect   Aug-07-11 05:05 PM   #193 
                 - There needn't have been a question mark at all.  ColesCountyDem   Aug-07-11 06:16 PM   #196 
                    - You never answered the ORIGINAL question ... that's why I restated and repeated it ...  defendandprotect   Aug-08-11 12:05 AM   #203 
                       - I did answer the question.  ColesCountyDem   Aug-08-11 05:22 AM   #207 
                          - OK -- that seems clear -- you're on IGNORE -- bye --  defendandprotect   Aug-08-11 10:09 PM   #212 
                             - Toodles. n/t  ColesCountyDem   Aug-09-11 06:47 PM   #213 
  - I like Dennis Kucinich very much. He's a terrific Congressman.  MineralMan   Aug-06-11 06:47 PM   #78 
  - Kucinich never "looked" the part. Unfortunately.  Left coast liberal   Aug-07-11 12:40 AM   #81 
  - THIS. THIS is the reason. I wish people would stop pretending otherwise. "Ideas" were irrelevant.  WinkyDink   Aug-07-11 04:52 AM   #99 
  - Well -- Obama looks good and speaks well --? What did that do for us over the last 3 years?  defendandprotect   Aug-07-11 02:09 PM   #175 
  - Too many here are still against him and ridicule him every chance they get  cui bono   Aug-07-11 02:50 AM   #82 
  - It's funny  hootinholler   Aug-07-11 07:13 AM   #103 
  - We need to understand how we could be so wrong about Obama ...  defendandprotect   Aug-07-11 03:16 AM   #88 
  - To those who argue "viability": ARE YOU SERIOUSLY SUGGESTING A BLACK MAN HAD MORE, IN THE BEGINNING?  WinkyDink   Aug-07-11 04:50 AM   #97 
  - I wasn't. I like Kucinich.  ananda   Aug-07-11 08:24 AM   #104 
  - I was for him in 2007. In 2008, he wasn't in the race any more.  LWolf   Aug-07-11 08:33 AM   #105 
  - Well, to be factual, Dennis or anyone like him will be  Cleita   Aug-07-11 08:36 AM   #106 
  - The whisper you allude to was even more insidious. Hilary  coalition_unwilling   Aug-07-11 10:09 AM   #125 
  - In the current clime, Dennis would have problems with his...  Shandris   Aug-07-11 08:57 AM   #109 
  - If the populace bought the MSM's protrayal of DK as a  coalition_unwilling   Aug-07-11 10:14 AM   #126 
     - I don't disagree with you one whit.  Shandris   Aug-07-11 01:02 PM   #166 
  - Kucinich can't even win a state-wide election in OHIO.  Ikonoklast   Aug-07-11 10:32 AM   #128 
  - Reccing your post.  Richardo   Aug-07-11 11:34 AM   #137 
  - he was my choice, edwards 2nd and obama 3rd  CarrieLynne   Aug-07-11 10:56 AM   #129 
  - In the next primary, I won't vote for whoever Iowa picks. nt  davidwparker   Aug-07-11 11:07 AM   #131 
  - there is another reason that I opposed DK - even though  paulk   Aug-07-11 11:11 AM   #133 
  - Never paid that much attention...  pipi_k   Aug-07-11 12:10 PM   #156 
  - He IS unelectable  Richardo   Aug-07-11 11:32 AM   #136 
  - a centrist meathead will claim Kucinich thinks there are aliens  fascisthunter   Aug-07-11 11:36 AM   #138 
  - Dennis has been my choice since '03.  Desertrose   Aug-07-11 11:36 AM   #139 
  - Don't get me wrong - I like the guy. But he is STILL unelectable for president  LynneSin   Aug-07-11 11:36 AM   #140 
  - I was for Dennis Kucinich.  undeterred   Aug-07-11 11:39 AM   #142 
  - DK 2008  stklurker   Aug-07-11 11:41 AM   #143 
  - But he was in fact unelectable....cause he withdrew from the race  pasto76   Aug-07-11 11:44 AM   #147 
  - Best political speech in a half century.  go west young man   Aug-07-11 11:53 AM   #151 
  - Been saying this all along.....  joanbarnes   Aug-07-11 12:01 PM   #152 
  - John Edwards was also right.  JDPriestly   Aug-07-11 12:02 PM   #153 
  - I didn't hear anyone in the Democratic Party  mudstump   Aug-07-11 12:06 PM   #155 
  - No one -- it was awful. MSM gets 80% of the campaign money... they're not interested  defendandprotect   Aug-07-11 05:12 PM   #194 
  - we need someone with the progressive positions of Kucinich and the charisma...  Odin2005   Aug-07-11 12:43 PM   #164 
  - k*R Steve speaks the UNVARNISHED TRUTH  autorank   Aug-07-11 01:22 PM   #169 
  - Kucinich doesn't stand a chance  DissedByBush   Aug-07-11 01:23 PM   #170 
  - The irony is that being "electable" means being inside the political box.  Gregorian   Aug-07-11 01:54 PM   #174 
  - I really dig Kucinich  quakerboy   Aug-07-11 02:14 PM   #177 
  - i threw away my vote in 2008  Enrique   Aug-07-11 02:17 PM   #179 
  - Well, I think the problem with that is...  pipi_k   Aug-08-11 12:30 PM   #211 
  - We Were?  otohara   Aug-07-11 02:34 PM   #182 
  - I don't understand your reply.  stevedeshazer   Aug-07-11 06:24 PM   #197 
  - You have to remember that Murdoch is responsible for the shaping of our elections, and the way we  midnight   Aug-07-11 02:36 PM   #183 
  - I believed that Dennis was the best choice  Faith No More   Aug-07-11 02:36 PM   #184 
  - If Kucinich was elected president, which I think is a huge stretch...  killbotfactory   Aug-07-11 02:38 PM   #186 
  - What you are saying is exactly what has happened to Obama.  stevedeshazer   Aug-07-11 06:26 PM   #198 
  - DK was way to progressive for the moderates currently destroying  Rex   Aug-07-11 02:49 PM   #187 
  - I was for him then  humbled_opinion   Aug-07-11 03:22 PM   #188 
  - Just like Truman over Wallace in 44  Taverner   Aug-07-11 03:39 PM   #191 
  - He is unelectable and will always be unelectable on a national scale.  elocs   Aug-07-11 03:44 PM   #192 
  - He would have lost to McCain (nt)  LuckyTheDog   Aug-08-11 10:29 AM   #210 
  - I was a huge Kucinich supporter!! n/t  Liberal_Stalwart71   Aug-09-11 06:54 PM   #214 
 

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