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Fri Aug-05-11 07:41 AM
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| 16. I don't care. I don't begrudge the god believing when it has no real impact on nonbelievers. |
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| -Jon Stewart Lashes Out At Anti-9/11 Cross Atheists: ‘Why Do You Give A Sh*t?’ - VIDEO |
Tx4obama |
Aug-04-11 11:16 PM |
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StewBeef, trying to be 'edgy' and 'independent'. |
BNJMN |
Aug-04-11 11:17 PM |
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Good question |
Gman |
Aug-04-11 11:27 PM |
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REALLY good question. Too bad people are so selective about asking it. nt |
patrice |
Aug-04-11 11:35 PM |
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YEAH! Anyone that objects to state sponsored Christianity needs to be questioned |
Ohio Joe |
Aug-05-11 02:17 AM |
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Questions about "selectivity" are good all of the way around, including to one's self. nt |
patrice |
Aug-05-11 02:10 PM |
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In fact, that's where REAL revolution begins. nt |
patrice |
Aug-05-11 02:11 PM |
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And if the beam had been twisted into a crescent, and Glenn Beck was ranting against it's display .. |
11 Bravo |
Aug-05-11 07:07 PM |
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I am opposed to the government promoting any religion |
Ohio Joe |
Aug-05-11 07:26 PM |
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... |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Aug-05-11 12:27 PM |
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He's right about that being a dickish comment |
SpartanDem |
Aug-04-11 11:35 PM |
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i think the comment was spot on |
GillesDeleuze |
Aug-05-11 10:36 AM |
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It's laughable, but millions and millions embrace this twisted pretzel logic. |
Arugula Latte |
Aug-05-11 02:41 PM |
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Is your hatred reserved just for the Christian |
cordelia |
Aug-05-11 10:20 PM |
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Doesn't sound at all like HATRED. |
PassingFair |
Aug-06-11 08:50 AM |
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Pointing out that a belief makes no sense is not hatred. |
Arugula Latte |
Aug-06-11 11:41 AM |
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It's god's way of saying "fuck you." A kind of signature on his work. |
immoderate |
Aug-06-11 12:10 PM |
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Because 9/11 was not about Christianity, Jon, that's why. |
Hissyspit |
Aug-04-11 11:36 PM |
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Thank you, well put. Use this one instead, much more representative. |
uppityperson |
Aug-04-11 11:44 PM |
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+1. I wish that there could be a secular zone around Ground Zero to enforce neutrality |
riderinthestorm |
Aug-05-11 06:53 PM |
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Exactly. |
krabigirl |
Aug-06-11 01:18 PM |
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He's right. Why do they give a shit...just don't go there. |
demosincebirth |
Aug-05-11 12:28 AM |
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Considering the violence the cross represents.... |
Kalidurga |
Aug-05-11 12:56 AM |
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The cross represents violence? |
leftynyc |
Aug-05-11 08:29 AM |
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Several blocks away vs on it. eom |
uppityperson |
Aug-05-11 10:38 AM |
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The cross is a method of execution: thus, it symbolizes violence. n/t |
xocet |
Aug-05-11 11:44 AM |
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Un-deniably TRUE. 2000 years of State-ChurchCo sponsored violence. nt |
patrice |
Aug-05-11 02:19 PM |
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FALSE. |
Zax2me |
Aug-05-11 06:20 PM |
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Look into church history, especially in the Americas. nt |
patrice |
Aug-05-11 06:37 PM |
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Right. It can never be perceived as negative! |
PassingFair |
Aug-06-11 08:52 AM |
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Like Bill Hicks said, if Jesus comes back, do you think he ever wants to see a fucking cross? |
backscatter712 |
Aug-06-11 12:22 PM |
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State violence, at that. And the mosque isn't at ground zero |
EFerrari |
Aug-05-11 12:16 PM |
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Lord Jesus is still here and we are still abusing/torturing/killing him for ChurchCo. I'd say that's |
patrice |
Aug-05-11 02:18 PM |
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which says plenty about the correlation between those on the right and those who would say that on |
Divine Discontent |
Aug-05-11 06:32 PM |
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That is your opinion and you are, basiclly, a small minority. Me? I could |
demosincebirth |
Aug-05-11 10:38 AM |
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Nailed! it! - In more ways than just one. |
patrice |
Aug-05-11 02:15 PM |
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What if Jesus had been hanged? |
immoderate |
Aug-06-11 12:18 PM |
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If Jesus had died 20 years ago, would we be wearing little electric chairs around our necks? n/t |
backscatter712 |
Aug-06-11 12:24 PM |
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Good point. If contemporary how about a syringe? |
immoderate |
Aug-06-11 12:49 PM |
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Jon channeling Fox News? |
pokerfan |
Aug-05-11 01:57 AM |
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God Bless the Atheists |
SoDesuKa |
Aug-05-11 06:50 AM |
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That's why. |
Iggo |
Aug-05-11 11:16 AM |
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Amen! nt |
patrice |
Aug-05-11 03:39 PM |
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Good for him. nt |
humblebum |
Aug-05-11 06:58 AM |
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This particular atheist is in favor of the cross being there. |
CBGLuthier |
Aug-05-11 06:59 AM |
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no way. give christians an inch and they'll take the earth. |
GillesDeleuze |
Aug-05-11 10:34 AM |
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This Atheist |
RobinA |
Aug-05-11 07:31 AM |
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Good question, John |
Aerows |
Aug-05-11 07:39 AM |
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So all the dead were Christians? |
jeff47 |
Aug-05-11 08:11 AM |
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I just said it is fine for ALL to post them |
Aerows |
Aug-05-11 10:14 AM |
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That's what the atheists' suit requests. |
trotsky |
Aug-05-11 10:34 AM |
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Same reply to you, Beer Mug guy :D |
Aerows |
Aug-05-11 12:37 PM |
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and provide funding from the government to put it up and maintain |
GillesDeleuze |
Aug-05-11 10:35 AM |
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Okay |
Aerows |
Aug-05-11 12:37 PM |
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So if they had left the cross, which is debris from the disaster, |
humblebum |
Aug-05-11 12:53 PM |
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I don't care. I don't begrudge the god believing when it has no real impact on nonbelievers. |
aikoaiko |
Aug-05-11 07:41 AM |
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Some people were awestruck by the 'Satan in the Smoke' image. |
Gidney N Cloyd |
Aug-05-11 08:22 AM |
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That looks like a teletubby version of the devil. |
JVS |
Aug-05-11 08:25 AM |
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It looks like a cat at bat. nt |
Gemini Cat |
Aug-06-11 12:45 PM |
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My problem with it is that it's an enthronement of magical thinking |
starroute |
Aug-05-11 10:16 AM |
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Why, because 'god', or 'jesus' had fuck all to do with 9/11.... |
truebrit71 |
Aug-05-11 10:29 AM |
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Jon's right on this one, imo. People are people, though. Some atheists can be |
theophilus |
Aug-05-11 10:37 AM |
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I agree |
Mz Pip |
Aug-05-11 10:50 AM |
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Its not the belief, its the entanglement. nt |
GillesDeleuze |
Aug-05-11 02:03 PM |
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People tend to take as serious a comedian dishing up sacred cow. |
LanternWaste |
Aug-05-11 10:41 AM |
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I'd prefer this. |
anamandujano |
Aug-05-11 11:13 AM |
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That monolith is real...They even have an action figure of one! |
Tyrs WolfDaemon |
Aug-05-11 03:09 PM |
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So he asked why people give a sh*t about church and state seperation? |
NoGOPZone |
Aug-05-11 11:23 AM |
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Yup. |
idiotgardener |
Aug-05-11 11:58 AM |
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I'm an agnostic... and the presence or non-presence of this cross affects my life in no way. |
Modern_Matthew |
Aug-05-11 11:23 AM |
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Jon Stewart is one of the funniest and intelligent people to have |
deaniac21 |
Aug-05-11 11:46 AM |
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It happens that I have personally known quite a few geniuses & Jon rates right in there with them. |
patrice |
Aug-05-11 02:24 PM |
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Jesus was the 20th hijacker |
Ezlivin |
Aug-05-11 12:21 PM |
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John Stewart and his writers failed to analyze the situation. Why think when one can laugh? |
xocet |
Aug-05-11 12:28 PM |
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"Atheism is not a religion" - But atheism has indeed been declared a religion by the courts |
humblebum |
Aug-05-11 01:03 PM |
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lulzy reasoning. |
GillesDeleuze |
Aug-05-11 02:02 PM |
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"The constitution requires every government action to be secular" |
humblebum |
Aug-05-11 02:20 PM |
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Your arguments taken as a whole are internally inconsistent, and you adduce no evidence. n/t |
xocet |
Aug-05-11 06:09 PM |
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I should have probably put a 'sarcasm' label on the last statement |
humblebum |
Aug-05-11 08:18 PM |
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Atheism is not a religion - sometimes I wonder |
Zax2me |
Aug-05-11 06:30 PM |
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Oh, I wanted to believe. Worked hard at it for DECADES trying to be a believer. |
riderinthestorm |
Aug-05-11 06:48 PM |
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Atheism is not a religion as such, but the Courts have declared it |
humblebum |
Aug-05-11 08:12 PM |
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Damned Activist Judges |
BiggJawn |
Aug-06-11 08:43 AM |
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That's the fault of atheists who say to have their first amendment rights |
humblebum |
Aug-06-11 12:39 PM |
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"They profess to know more about any religion than those in them" |
Rob H. |
Aug-06-11 12:00 PM |
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By your reasoning, a doctor is a disease. |
immoderate |
Aug-06-11 12:30 PM |
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Uh, because government-sponsored promotion of religion is against the Constitution? |
Arugula Latte |
Aug-05-11 12:31 PM |
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So what do you think of Faith-Based health care & SRS services? |
patrice |
Aug-05-11 02:42 PM |
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WHBGAS? |
slackmaster |
Aug-05-11 02:05 PM |
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? |
patrice |
Aug-05-11 02:37 PM |
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Someone who missed an important Internet meme! Video link here... |
slackmaster |
Aug-05-11 03:47 PM |
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. |
patrice |
Aug-05-11 05:36 PM |
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Absolutely not |
cordelia |
Aug-05-11 02:38 PM |
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Several reasons. |
ZombieHorde |
Aug-05-11 02:08 PM |
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I'm an atheist, and I don't give a shit. |
Throd |
Aug-05-11 02:22 PM |
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Check out Citizens' for Responsibility & Ethics in Washington, CREW's, documentation, published on |
patrice |
Aug-05-11 02:34 PM |
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Sorry, still don't give a shit. |
Throd |
Aug-05-11 02:41 PM |
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Church-Koch IS the Oppressor here in Brownbackistan. Check out my post #68 above. Thanks. |
patrice |
Aug-05-11 02:44 PM |
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On edit: make that - Koch's Church/CoC nt |
patrice |
Aug-05-11 02:46 PM |
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Check that - two that don't give a shit. |
Zax2me |
Aug-05-11 06:21 PM |
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Q. Which means exactly what to anyone else? A. Two don't give a shit. nt |
patrice |
Aug-05-11 06:36 PM |
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I agree with Stewart. |
Proles |
Aug-05-11 02:31 PM |
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Can you explain why you think the cross and the commandments are different? |
idiotgardener |
Aug-05-11 02:34 PM |
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Because the law of a court and the wording of the |
Proles |
Aug-05-11 09:33 PM |
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And I agree with you. |
Throd |
Aug-05-11 02:43 PM |
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Touching a nerve here somewhere = 4 unrecs in less than appx. 20 mins. nt |
patrice |
Aug-05-11 02:54 PM |
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I'm shocked they didn't also find |
Scottybeamer70 |
Aug-05-11 03:13 PM |
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Re CREW FOIA requests for WH Visitor Logs prior to Invasion of Iraq |
patrice |
Aug-05-11 03:35 PM |
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A list that means...what? |
Zax2me |
Aug-05-11 06:17 PM |
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To you. That is, unless you are the SOLE arbiter of meaning for all others. nt |
patrice |
Aug-05-11 06:32 PM |
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Say, btw, that there authoritarian attitude you're carrying around is real "greenie" of you. |
patrice |
Aug-05-11 06:42 PM |
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I can't view the video but I am offended by the cross. Many non-Christians died on 9/11. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Aug-05-11 06:54 PM |
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Atheists clearly enjoy bad publicity. |
onehandle |
Aug-06-11 08:21 AM |
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What's crazy about it? |
backscatter712 |
Aug-06-11 01:09 PM |
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No, I think the religous nuts are craY, but whatevs. |
krabigirl |
Aug-06-11 01:19 PM |
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And the "9/11 cross" doesn't look crazy? |
Hissyspit |
Aug-06-11 04:40 PM |
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I don't think most atheists would back this suit. They wouldn't 'give a sh*t.' |
onehandle |
Aug-07-11 10:26 AM |
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Exactly! Excellent question and some good points - |
lynne |
Aug-06-11 09:03 AM |
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David Silverman of the American Atheists has piped in... |
backscatter712 |
Aug-06-11 12:27 PM |
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double post |
onehandle |
Aug-07-11 10:32 AM |
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Ohhhhh.... So it should be 'religion-free.' |
onehandle |
Aug-07-11 10:33 AM |
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Hey, if not for religion, there would be no 9-11. Why not sign their work? |
immoderate |
Aug-06-11 12:43 PM |
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Good point... nt |
Blasphemer |
Aug-06-11 01:24 PM |
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Amazingly incisive! |
anamandujano |
Aug-06-11 01:40 PM |
#119 |
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