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| 136. "We Don't Create Jobs" |
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No shit?
Thanks Captain Obvious! AKA President Obama!
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| -The White House: We Don't Create Jobs |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 01:18 PM |
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Well, that's for damn sure. |
Brickbat |
Aug-04-11 01:20 PM |
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LOL |
closeupready |
Aug-04-11 01:21 PM |
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Karmadillo is selectively quoting. The rest of the sentence: |
emulatorloo |
Aug-04-11 01:22 PM |
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Am I selectively quoting? |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 01:23 PM |
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Yes you are. |
emulatorloo |
Aug-04-11 01:25 PM |
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Click on the link and tell me how I selectively quoted. |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 01:25 PM |
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I did I read the article I provided the full quote which you left out. |
emulatorloo |
Aug-04-11 01:27 PM |
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I left it out? Where in the first four paragraphs is the |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 01:29 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Aug-04-11 01:34 PM |
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I am not happy with the President either, but yes, you did selectively quote |
markpkessinger |
Aug-04-11 01:43 PM |
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Well, not to get into another deleted subthread, but you shouldn't smear |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 10:21 PM |
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So, why has he not countermanded Reagan's ban on work programs? |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-04-11 06:08 PM |
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Yes you are, emulatorloo is correct |
Angry Dragon |
Aug-04-11 01:41 PM |
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You're right. I did leave out some good stuff. My bad. I'm so |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 01:49 PM |
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.............. |
Angry Dragon |
Aug-04-11 02:04 PM |
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YES YOU ARE. |
trueblue2007 |
Aug-04-11 02:05 PM |
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I CAN"T RESPOND WHEN YOU MAKE MY EARS HURT!!!!!! |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 02:07 PM |
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What a silly post. |
bluestate10 |
Aug-04-11 06:55 PM |
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What a silly post. |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 07:02 PM |
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What a silly post. |
bluestate10 |
Aug-04-11 06:56 PM |
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What a silly post. |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 07:02 PM |
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The rest of the quote still suggests that "The government doesn't create jobs." |
theophilus |
Aug-04-11 02:13 PM |
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Thank you for posting this. |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 02:18 PM |
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You are very welcome. n/t |
theophilus |
Aug-04-11 06:04 PM |
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Yes |
Renew Deal |
Aug-04-11 03:21 PM |
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Sure as hell looks that way. nt |
bluestate10 |
Aug-04-11 06:41 PM |
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Ah, another cherry picked quote. |
jaxx |
Aug-04-11 01:24 PM |
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You mean one where we get the pit and the corporations get the cherry? |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 08:12 PM |
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FDR did |
zipplewrath |
Aug-04-11 01:26 PM |
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He sure did. Millions and millions, through the WPA. |
closeupready |
Aug-04-11 01:27 PM |
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And the unemployment rate never got below 15% |
Recursion |
Aug-04-11 01:30 PM |
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Would have been far higher without it, and the misery would have lasted far longer. |
closeupready |
Aug-04-11 01:32 PM |
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Apparently some Democrats have adopted the rightwing meme that suffering is good for the soul, at |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 01:35 PM |
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self-delete |
closeupready |
Aug-04-11 01:49 PM |
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so this is the reason why Obama shouldn't bother? |
Donnachaidh |
Aug-04-11 01:34 PM |
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non ag Unemployment dipped a hair below 10%, total dipped to a hair below 15% |
FogerRox |
Aug-04-11 02:05 PM |
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The Defenders appaently prefer policies designed to convince the private market to hire. FDR's |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 01:28 PM |
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Right. Or Reagan's Tinckle-On Voodoo Economics. |
closeupready |
Aug-04-11 01:30 PM |
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It's hard to figure what these people are thinking. Reagan's administration was |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 01:33 PM |
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So FDR's Congress had nothing to do with that? Or did FDR singlehandedly do it |
emulatorloo |
Aug-04-11 01:36 PM |
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Actually |
zipplewrath |
Aug-04-11 02:12 PM |
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Exactly! |
treestar |
Aug-04-11 02:30 PM |
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Thanks for shedding light on the attempt |
mzmolly |
Aug-04-11 01:35 PM |
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Hey, emulatorloo. Why did you leave out the part re: the White House advocating tax cuts and trade |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 01:56 PM |
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while he is selectively quoting, Carney pretty much set that up for an edit |
yurbud |
Aug-04-11 02:59 PM |
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Well that's a bit different. |
Renew Deal |
Aug-04-11 03:21 PM |
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Good job clearing away the bullshit. The levels that some people will stoop to. nt |
bluestate10 |
Aug-04-11 06:42 PM |
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LOL. Sic 'em. |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 07:56 PM |
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""The government, together — White House, Congress — creates policies that allow for greater job cre |
emulatorloo |
Aug-04-11 01:20 PM |
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partial quote....partial truth |
spanone |
Aug-04-11 01:24 PM |
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selective editing can make anything bad- |
Bluerthanblue |
Aug-04-11 01:58 PM |
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The White House, instead of jobs programs, wants trade agreements and |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 02:01 PM |
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Yet, if employment was going bonkers, they would take credit. |
closeupready |
Aug-04-11 01:20 PM |
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Then what the hell was all that road work for he had going on last year? |
LaurenG |
Aug-04-11 01:23 PM |
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You know the saying, "If at first you don't succeed, sneak away and deny that you've ever tried" |
JVS |
Aug-05-11 04:00 AM |
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OMG |
abelenkpe |
Aug-04-11 01:23 PM |
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The GOP has no need to run any candidate against Obama |
FiveGoodMen |
Aug-04-11 01:25 PM |
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Why change a winning horse? |
Confusious |
Aug-04-11 01:31 PM |
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Seriously. |
closeupready |
Aug-04-11 01:33 PM |
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They are no longer channeling Reagan, they are channeling HOOVER |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-04-11 01:25 PM |
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Read the full quote: |
emulatorloo |
Aug-04-11 01:26 PM |
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Here some quotes from Hoover |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-04-11 01:32 PM |
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Partial quote or not, Carney is a fucking clown and bad at his job. |
theaocp |
Aug-04-11 01:26 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Aug-04-11 01:27 PM |
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bullshit. i can choose part of your op and make you look like a clown too |
spanone |
Aug-04-11 01:28 PM |
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The man is paid for speaking well. |
theaocp |
Aug-04-11 01:36 PM |
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Karmadillo is only giving you half the quote. |
emulatorloo |
Aug-04-11 01:38 PM |
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Smearing me to deflect from the White House's rejection of FDR jobs programs while embracing trade |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 02:05 PM |
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If you have a problem with NAFTA and trade agreements, voice it- |
Bluerthanblue |
Aug-04-11 02:10 PM |
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The OP isn't deceptive, but if you keep repeating the charge, it will magically become |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 02:16 PM |
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first off- |
Bluerthanblue |
Aug-04-11 02:35 PM |
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Dudette? |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 02:41 PM |
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Your OP is right out of the Andrew Breitbart playbook. |
phleshdef |
Aug-04-11 04:03 PM |
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Your OP is right out of the My Babysitter is a Vampire playbook. |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 08:00 PM |
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That's a lie. He quoted the first paragraph in its entirety. n/t |
in_cog_ni_to |
Aug-04-11 02:41 PM |
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He quoted only a partial quote- at least Zeke Miller goes on to |
Bluerthanblue |
Aug-04-11 02:51 PM |
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But the OP quoted the first paragraph as it was written. He did not selectively quote it. n/t |
in_cog_ni_to |
Aug-04-11 03:19 PM |
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this seems futile- but here is |
Bluerthanblue |
Aug-04-11 03:53 PM |
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Excellent link and explanation. |
emulatorloo |
Aug-04-11 03:56 PM |
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I appreciate |
Bluerthanblue |
Aug-04-11 04:27 PM |
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this seems futile--but |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 04:03 PM |
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he did choose his words carefully- Miller didn't use them |
Bluerthanblue |
Aug-04-11 02:57 PM |
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Oh, I don't know. Obama has created a couple more wars to employ the troops. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Aug-04-11 01:27 PM |
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Yeah. We noticed. |
aquart |
Aug-04-11 01:27 PM |
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Out of context bullshit. That's the way the RW machine does things. |
tridim |
Aug-04-11 01:30 PM |
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and more and more prevalent here. |
emulatorloo |
Aug-04-11 01:42 PM |
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Hey, emulatorloo. The part about the White House advocating trade agreements and |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 02:11 PM |
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I am very unhappy with the President, but you're right... |
markpkessinger |
Aug-04-11 01:45 PM |
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thats the way I see it too- seems like |
Bluerthanblue |
Aug-04-11 02:12 PM |
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Holy FUCK! someone told the truuuuuth........ |
piratefish08 |
Aug-04-11 01:32 PM |
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I read the other day that high dollar donors get some pretty cush jobs |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Aug-04-11 01:32 PM |
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But you did create a catfood commssion |
chill_wind |
Aug-04-11 01:33 PM |
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President Obama: "I've never believed that government's role is to create jobs or prosperity" |
Better Believe It |
Aug-04-11 01:34 PM |
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Thank you for posting this. What a bizarre approach for a Democratic president to embrace. |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 02:24 PM |
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Democratic president? |
Vanje |
Aug-04-11 07:06 PM |
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Not even Reagan himself could have said it better. n/t |
QC |
Aug-04-11 01:35 PM |
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Oh Fucking Yeah you create jobs. |
truedelphi |
Aug-04-11 01:36 PM |
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+ infinity! |
Hydra |
Aug-04-11 06:55 PM |
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I swear the Obama White House is channeling Joe Lieberman. |
Ganja Ninja |
Aug-04-11 01:36 PM |
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WTF? |
Cali_Democrat |
Aug-04-11 01:38 PM |
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New Third Way Dems are |
libmom74 |
Aug-04-11 01:45 PM |
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Self-preservation. It's a basic instinct, doncha know. |
closeupready |
Aug-04-11 01:51 PM |
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they suck! that's about all there is to say. THEY SUCK! nt |
boston bean |
Aug-04-11 01:46 PM |
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That's for damn sure. |
Starry Messenger |
Aug-04-11 01:47 PM |
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K&R |
woo me with science |
Aug-04-11 01:53 PM |
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Mc Connell and Kyl Talking Points. Obama, Obama, Obama |
OHdem10 |
Aug-04-11 01:55 PM |
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No, they had rather kill them. |
mmonk |
Aug-04-11 02:03 PM |
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Yeah, we know |
Lorien |
Aug-04-11 02:22 PM |
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Karmadillo DID NOT SELECTIVELY QUOTE THE ARTICLE! Here's the FIRST paragraph quoted: |
in_cog_ni_to |
Aug-04-11 02:22 PM |
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DU rule = Quote only 4 paragraphs. But they don't have to be consecutive |
emulatorloo |
Aug-04-11 02:35 PM |
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He quoted the first four paragraphs in their entirety...that IS NOT "selective quoting." It's |
in_cog_ni_to |
Aug-04-11 02:39 PM |
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OK - so it is deceptive posting |
hack89 |
Aug-04-11 03:00 PM |
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No. That's not true either. He quoted the first paragraph in its entirety. That is not deceptive. nt |
in_cog_ni_to |
Aug-04-11 03:21 PM |
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You are missing the point - he deceived through omission |
hack89 |
Aug-04-11 03:34 PM |
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You are missing the point--you are smearing through commission. |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 06:59 PM |
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because the type seems to get stuck on a button, they ignore the big picture |
StarsInHerHair |
Aug-04-11 10:01 PM |
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DU rule = Quote only 4 paragraphs. But they don't have to be consecutive |
emulatorloo |
Aug-04-11 02:35 PM |
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more republican talking points from the White House |
amborin |
Aug-04-11 02:31 PM |
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how is this a republican talking point? |
Bluerthanblue |
Aug-04-11 02:52 PM |
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it's rethugs who say WH should not steer job creation |
amborin |
Aug-04-11 02:55 PM |
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we DO need a government backed Job Creation program- |
Bluerthanblue |
Aug-04-11 03:01 PM |
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have you ever heard of 'leadership', from the White House? |
amborin |
Aug-04-11 03:09 PM |
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Please note: "Obama Midwest Bus Tour To Focus On Jobs, Economy" |
emulatorloo |
Aug-04-11 03:43 PM |
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Please note:"trade deals, extending payroll tax cuts and overhauling patent laws." Woohoo! |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 07:04 PM |
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FDR issued an Executive Order to raise taxes on the wealthy-Congress said |
StarsInHerHair |
Aug-04-11 10:05 PM |
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what a liar. |
indurancevile |
Aug-04-11 02:38 PM |
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who? Miller? well while it may not be a lie, it |
Bluerthanblue |
Aug-04-11 03:06 PM |
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not THIS White House. Thats for SURE. |
bvar22 |
Aug-04-11 02:42 PM |
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+1 |
area51 |
Aug-05-11 03:53 AM |
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How very Republican of them.... |
NotThisTime |
Aug-04-11 03:11 PM |
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Second part of quote even more disgusting. |
Jakes Progress |
Aug-04-11 03:32 PM |
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K&R this comment. Amazing the Defenders keep highlighting it. |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 03:46 PM |
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Aug-04-11 04:00 PM |
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Here's the quote. Explain how it was "dishonestly" interpreted. |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 04:08 PM |
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Its dishonestly interpreted because the part regarding the White House and Congress... |
phleshdef |
Aug-04-11 04:20 PM |
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See post #36 for context. The "insinuations" of the OP seem extremely accurate. |
Karmadillo |
Aug-04-11 06:38 PM |
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The purpose of the "Payroll Tax Holiday" is to marginalize funding for Social security, |
bvar22 |
Aug-05-11 10:44 AM |
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Did you just call me a liar? |
Jakes Progress |
Aug-04-11 10:08 PM |
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Republican Dogma |
Hawkowl |
Aug-05-11 12:44 AM |
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lmao... he's SOOOO full of it. |
GSLevel9 |
Aug-04-11 06:39 PM |
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It's really getting desperate in here, isn't it? |
TK421 |
Aug-04-11 07:07 PM |
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Yes. |
Bluebear |
Aug-04-11 07:37 PM |
#127 |
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That could be taken two ways. |
Blue-Jay |
Aug-04-11 10:11 PM |
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Well then we don't have to worry as he has done nothing. |
Safetykitten |
Aug-04-11 07:40 PM |
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"We Don't Create Jobs" |
workinclasszero |
Aug-04-11 10:19 PM |
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. |
blkmusclmachine |
Aug-04-11 10:25 PM |
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Memory Lane: 2008 Obama outlines job-creation plan |
EFerrari |
Aug-04-11 10:34 PM |
#139 |
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Wow. How depressing. We had such an opportunity & we traded it in for what? Bailouts? Austerity? |
Karmadillo |
Aug-05-11 12:38 AM |
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I hope our President at least got a bag of Magic Beans in this deal. |
bvar22 |
Aug-05-11 10:36 AM |
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Deleted message |
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Aug-04-11 10:45 PM |
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This administration needs to stop writing the ads for the republicans. |
JVS |
Aug-05-11 03:58 AM |
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Someone's forgotten the Full Employment and Balanced Growth Act |
Liberal Fiscal Hawk |
Aug-05-11 04:08 AM |
#146 |
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Well, it should. If the private sector isn't then the gov't should |
ProfessionalLeftist |
Aug-05-11 12:10 PM |
#149 |
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